DaBreeze21

I posted about this on my blog but thought that it would make for some
interesting discussion here too. My daughter is 2 yo and I get to see
lots of children's movies lately (even more now that I have embraced
no limits on TV :-) I really like some of the movies and their
"messages". I have even found a couple that really resonate with
Unschooling and Attachment parenting. It's both pleasant and a little
bit surprising. It sometimes feels like "mainstream" ideas are
everywhere but then you look around and maybe it's not so true....

Here are some examples that I have found:

In "The Little Mermaid" King Triton, Ariel's father, tries to control
her by yelling and forbidding and by punishing (destroying her most
prized possessions). None of these methods deter Ariel from exploring
what she truly desires. In fact they push Ariel farther away from her
father and into riskier, more dangerous behaviors. So much for
traditional parenting methods! In the end he concedes that he needs to
let her grow up and gives her the gift of legs (becoming human) himself.

In "Nemo" (Marisol's first favorite movie) Marlin, Nemo's father,
tries to protect Nemo too much. He wants to keep him in the anenome
forever. Although this movie may appear to be "pro-school" because
that is where Nemo wants to be, it is really more about supporting
your child's growth and not holding them back. It is ultimately about
trusting your child because they know what they can and cannot do, and
also what they want to do - in essence what is best for them.

And my favorite example lately (and the only non-Disney example so far
) is Curious George. In the movie Ted (the man with the yellow hat)
undergoes a major personal transformation thanks to George. In the
beginning of the movie he tells children at the museum he works at,
"Kids a museum is a place where we observe, we don't play." He is the
ultimate boring teacher. By the conclusion of the movie he has
completely changed his tune thanks to that crazy little monkey,
George. As he stands before a huge crowd in front of the renovated
museum Ted appears to launch into a long boring speech... the crowd,
especially the children are not happy! Instead, he keeps it short and
sweet, "I just have one important thing to say. Anyone can memorize
facts and figures. The real way to learn anything is to go out and
experience it and let your curiosity lead you - so who's ready to
learn?" Man, he sounds like the posterchild for unschooling! I love it!

So where do you see support for a non-mainstream way of living
slipping into mainstream culture? I'd love to hear of more examples!

Susan

http://www.xanga.com/CrunchyConMom

Sandra Dodd

-=-So where do you see support for a non-mainstream way of living
slipping into mainstream culture? I'd love to hear of more examples!-=-



Some of these are way older than unschooling, but there are some
listed here:

http://sandradodd.com/movies



Sandra

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Arp Laszlo

I would definitely add 'Accepted' to the list - it is one of the few movies
I've seen that had me cheering at the end. It's the one movie I would want
to watch with a theatre full of unschooling families.

Arp Laszlo
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On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:

> -=-So where do you see support for a non-mainstream way of living
> slipping into mainstream culture? I'd love to hear of more examples!-=-
>
> Some of these are way older than unschooling, but there are some
> listed here:
>
> http://sandradodd.com/movies
>
> Sandra
>
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>
>
>


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J Geller

There are lots of cool songs that I think resonate with unschooling philosophy.

John Mayer's song "No Such Thing"
Pete Seeger's "Little Boxes"

I will have to think of some more now.
Jae


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michmdmama

I scanned Sandra's site, but didn't see it on there, but I could have
missed it.

My girls love Barbie and the 12 dancing princesses
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0859594/

In the movie the girls are loving life until their father's cousin
comes to teach them how to be "real princesses". She takes away all
the beautiful colors, dresses them in gray and forbids them to sing or
dance (something they love).

In the end their father realizes it was a mistake to bring his cousin
there. That they were all "...special, beautiful and you'll do great
things in your own way. Just like your mother always told me."

Actually all the Barbie movies are great for following connections
too. There are many actors and actresses that play the same parts in
all the movies and then there are a few really famous people that show
up once and awhile like Catherin O'Hara and Kelsey Grammer (who both
play bad "guys"). I have to admit that the Barbie movies are really
easy to get "sucked into" when they are on. It even happened to my
brother and his friends one time (they were like 17 at the time, lol!).

Amanda

--- In [email protected], "DaBreeze21" <susanmay15@...>
wrote:
>
> I posted about this on my blog but thought that it would make for some
> interesting discussion here too. My daughter is 2 yo and I get to see
> lots of children's movies lately (even more now that I have embraced
> no limits on TV :-) I really like some of the movies and their
> "messages". I have even found a couple that really resonate with
> Unschooling and Attachment parenting. It's both pleasant and a little
> bit surprising. It sometimes feels like "mainstream" ideas are
> everywhere but then you look around and maybe it's not so true....
>
> Here are some examples that I have found:
>
> In "The Little Mermaid" King Triton, Ariel's father, tries to control
> her by yelling and forbidding and by punishing (destroying her most
> prized possessions). None of these methods deter Ariel from exploring
> what she truly desires. In fact they push Ariel farther away from her
> father and into riskier, more dangerous behaviors. So much for
> traditional parenting methods! In the end he concedes that he needs to
> let her grow up and gives her the gift of legs (becoming human) himself.
>
> In "Nemo" (Marisol's first favorite movie) Marlin, Nemo's father,
> tries to protect Nemo too much. He wants to keep him in the anenome
> forever. Although this movie may appear to be "pro-school" because
> that is where Nemo wants to be, it is really more about supporting
> your child's growth and not holding them back. It is ultimately about
> trusting your child because they know what they can and cannot do, and
> also what they want to do - in essence what is best for them.
>
> And my favorite example lately (and the only non-Disney example so far
> ) is Curious George. In the movie Ted (the man with the yellow hat)
> undergoes a major personal transformation thanks to George. In the
> beginning of the movie he tells children at the museum he works at,
> "Kids a museum is a place where we observe, we don't play." He is the
> ultimate boring teacher. By the conclusion of the movie he has
> completely changed his tune thanks to that crazy little monkey,
> George. As he stands before a huge crowd in front of the renovated
> museum Ted appears to launch into a long boring speech... the crowd,
> especially the children are not happy! Instead, he keeps it short and
> sweet, "I just have one important thing to say. Anyone can memorize
> facts and figures. The real way to learn anything is to go out and
> experience it and let your curiosity lead you - so who's ready to
> learn?" Man, he sounds like the posterchild for unschooling! I love it!
>
> So where do you see support for a non-mainstream way of living
> slipping into mainstream culture? I'd love to hear of more examples!
>
> Susan
>
> http://www.xanga.com/CrunchyConMom
>

Vicki Dennis

"Little Boxes" is actually Malvina Reynolds although she had no objection
to her friend Pete Seeger performing and making it even more popular.
Malvina was an incredible woman, performer, and composer. She is no longer
of this world but I like to give her credit (and encourage others to check
out some of her other songs!).

Vicki



On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:30 PM, J Geller <gellerjh@...> wrote:

> There are lots of cool songs that I think resonate with unschooling
> philosophy.
>
> John Mayer's song "No Such Thing"
> Pete Seeger's "Little Boxes"
>
> I
>


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chillmidcoastcom

--- In [email protected], "J Geller" <gellerjh@...> wrote:

How about SUPERTRAMP's "The Logical Song"?


> There are lots of cool songs that I think resonate with unschooling
philosophy.
>
> John Mayer's song "No Such Thing"
> Pete Seeger's "Little Boxes"
>
> I will have to think of some more now.
> Jae
>
>

Margaret

"Never Go to Work" by They Might be Giants. This is on the children's
album, Here come the 123's, that they released earlier this year. DH
and I love it (as do the kids).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Kgj6EiZtw


On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:58 AM, DaBreeze21 <susanmay15@...> wrote:
> I posted about this on my blog but thought that it would make for some
> interesting discussion here too. My daughter is 2 yo and I get to see
> lots of children's movies lately (even more now that I have embraced
> no limits on TV :-) I really like some of the movies and their
> "messages". I have even found a couple that really resonate with
> Unschooling and Attachment parenting. It's both pleasant and a little
> bit surprising. It sometimes feels like "mainstream" ideas are
> everywhere but then you look around and maybe it's not so true....
>
> Here are some examples that I have found:
>
> In "The Little Mermaid" King Triton, Ariel's father, tries to control
> her by yelling and forbidding and by punishing (destroying her most
> prized possessions). None of these methods deter Ariel from exploring
> what she truly desires. In fact they push Ariel farther away from her
> father and into riskier, more dangerous behaviors. So much for
> traditional parenting methods! In the end he concedes that he needs to
> let her grow up and gives her the gift of legs (becoming human) himself.
>
> In "Nemo" (Marisol's first favorite movie) Marlin, Nemo's father,
> tries to protect Nemo too much. He wants to keep him in the anenome
> forever. Although this movie may appear to be "pro-school" because
> that is where Nemo wants to be, it is really more about supporting
> your child's growth and not holding them back. It is ultimately about
> trusting your child because they know what they can and cannot do, and
> also what they want to do - in essence what is best for them.
>
> And my favorite example lately (and the only non-Disney example so far
> ) is Curious George. In the movie Ted (the man with the yellow hat)
> undergoes a major personal transformation thanks to George. In the
> beginning of the movie he tells children at the museum he works at,
> "Kids a museum is a place where we observe, we don't play." He is the
> ultimate boring teacher. By the conclusion of the movie he has
> completely changed his tune thanks to that crazy little monkey,
> George. As he stands before a huge crowd in front of the renovated
> museum Ted appears to launch into a long boring speech... the crowd,
> especially the children are not happy! Instead, he keeps it short and
> sweet, "I just have one important thing to say. Anyone can memorize
> facts and figures. The real way to learn anything is to go out and
> experience it and let your curiosity lead you - so who's ready to
> learn?" Man, he sounds like the posterchild for unschooling! I love it!
>
> So where do you see support for a non-mainstream way of living
> slipping into mainstream culture? I'd love to hear of more examples!
>
> Susan
>
> http://www.xanga.com/CrunchyConMom
>
>

Nancy Wooton

On Jul 26, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Vicki Dennis wrote:

> Little Boxes" is actually Malvina Reynolds although she had no
> objection
> to her friend Pete Seeger performing and making it even more popular.

The song is used as the opening theme for the Showtime series,
"Weeds," too, in her version and sung by different artists. I think
it would be more closely associated with marijuana than unschooling ;-)

Nancy

almadoing

This is more anti school than pro unschooling but I was a sullen,
rebellious and receptive 16 year old when Pink Floyd's "Another brick
in the wall" came out. I must have listened to that song a million
times. I felt like I was waking up to the reality of the controlled
life I had led and felt to my very core the horror of "thought
control" and "dark sarcasm" etc. It didn't occur to me then that
there was any choice about school, and I didn't envisage a time when
I would have my own children but … that was definitely a significant
time for my future as a radical unschooler.

Interestingly there was a tv programme on recently here (uk) about
the children who had sung in the original song. Apparently they all
came from a school in a rough area near to the recording studio. When
the (maverick) music teacher was approached he happily marched a
group to the sudios and only later bothered to approach the
headteacher with a "There is something you need to know …". It took
the school a looong time to recover itself after the media frenzy.



> On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:58 AM, DaBreeze21 <susanmay15@...> wrote:
> > I posted about this on my blog but thought that it would make for
some
> > interesting discussion here too. My daughter is 2 yo and I get to
see
> > lots of children's movies lately (even more now that I have
embraced
> > no limits on TV :-) I really like some of the movies and their
> > "messages". I have even found a couple that really resonate with
> > Unschooling and Attachment parenting. It's both pleasant and a
little
> > bit surprising. It sometimes feels like "mainstream" ideas are
> > everywhere but then you look around and maybe it's not so true....
> >
> > Here are some examples that I have found:
> >
> > In "The Little Mermaid" King Triton, Ariel's father, tries to
control
> > her by yelling and forbidding and by punishing (destroying her
most
> > prized possessions). None of these methods deter Ariel from
exploring
> > what she truly desires. In fact they push Ariel farther away from
her
> > father and into riskier, more dangerous behaviors. So much for
> > traditional parenting methods! In the end he concedes that he
needs to
> > let her grow up and gives her the gift of legs (becoming human)
himself.
> >
> > In "Nemo" (Marisol's first favorite movie) Marlin, Nemo's father,
> > tries to protect Nemo too much. He wants to keep him in the
anenome
> > forever. Although this movie may appear to be "pro-school" because
> > that is where Nemo wants to be, it is really more about supporting
> > your child's growth and not holding them back. It is ultimately
about
> > trusting your child because they know what they can and cannot
do, and
> > also what they want to do - in essence what is best for them.
> >
> > And my favorite example lately (and the only non-Disney example
so far
> > ) is Curious George. In the movie Ted (the man with the yellow
hat)
> > undergoes a major personal transformation thanks to George. In the
> > beginning of the movie he tells children at the museum he works
at,
> > "Kids a museum is a place where we observe, we don't play." He is
the
> > ultimate boring teacher. By the conclusion of the movie he has
> > completely changed his tune thanks to that crazy little monkey,
> > George. As he stands before a huge crowd in front of the renovated
> > museum Ted appears to launch into a long boring speech... the
crowd,
> > especially the children are not happy! Instead, he keeps it short
and
> > sweet, "I just have one important thing to say. Anyone can
memorize
> > facts and figures. The real way to learn anything is to go out and
> > experience it and let your curiosity lead you - so who's ready to
> > learn?" Man, he sounds like the posterchild for unschooling! I
love it!
> >
> > So where do you see support for a non-mainstream way of living
> > slipping into mainstream culture? I'd love to hear of more
examples!
> >
> > Susan
> >
> > http://www.xanga.com/CrunchyConMom
> >
> >
>

Dina

I sing that song to DS (almost 2) all the time and he LOVES it.

Dina

--- In [email protected], Nancy Wooton <nancywooton@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Vicki Dennis wrote:
>
> > Little Boxes" is actually Malvina Reynolds although she had no
> > objection
> > to her friend Pete Seeger performing and making it even more popular.
>
> The song is used as the opening theme for the Showtime series,
> "Weeds," too, in her version and sung by different artists. I think
> it would be more closely associated with marijuana than unschooling ;-)
>
> Nancy
>

harmonyhogan

> -=-So where do you see support for a non-mainstream way of living
> slipping into mainstream culture? I'd love to hear of more examples


The childrens book Llama Llama Mad at Momma.
I love this book. The little llama is busy playing and mom scoops him
up and puts him in the car to go shopping. She didn't care that he
was in the middle of doing something. Then he falls asleep in the car
and she wakes him up to go into the store. After a while he has
enough and starts throwing things out of the cart. Then mama llama
realized that she's been pretty rude to him. She talks to him and
tries to make it fun.

It isn't about school/unschool, just about respecting your children.

Harmony

J Geller

I love this song and am really glad that you shared this story. It sounds like an interesting TV show. We used to blare this across the courtyards in college, when it came out. Ah, memories.

I grew up outside of Boston when the city of Newton was experimenting with some ideas that came out of The Sudbury School. My parents wouldn't buy a house in Newton because of the flaky schools there at the time. Needless to say, it took me a long time to find unschooling.

Jae

This is more anti school than pro unschooling but I was a sullen,
rebellious and receptive 16 year old when Pink Floyd's "Another brick
in the wall" came out. I must have listened to that song a million
times. I felt like I was waking up to the reality of the controlled
life I had led and felt to my very core the horror of "thought
control" and "dark sarcasm" etc. It didn't occur to me then that
there was any choice about school, and I didn't envisage a time when
I would have my own children but . that was definitely a significant
time for my future as a radical unschooler.

Interestingly there was a tv programme on recently here (uk) about
the children who had sung in the original song. Apparently they all
came from a school in a rough area near to the recording studio. When
the (maverick) music teacher was approached he happily marched a
group to the sudios and only later bothered to approach the
headteacher with a "There is something you need to know .". It took
the school a looong time to recover itself after the media frenzy.



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Anne Mills

Is it the same one as for Weeds credits ?

It is the song for unschoolers is it not ?

I was thinking the Jane Austen movies and Beatrix Potter's are inspiring to unschool and to enlarge the "palette" of colours…

To value nature for inspiration and animal observation, to portrait characters or draw from people and learn about ourselves. To find purpose and embrace our talents. To find fun in little things like writing or painting watercolors.

Anne






________________________________
> To: [email protected]
> From: dapsign@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:25:47 +0000
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Finding Unschooling philosphy in mainstream culture - can you too? :-)
>
>
> I sing that song to DS (almost 2) all the time and he LOVES it.
>
> Dina
>
> --- In [email protected], Nancy Wooton wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Vicki Dennis wrote:
>>
>>> Little Boxes" is actually Malvina Reynolds although she had no
>>> objection
>>> to her friend Pete Seeger performing and making it even more popular.
>>
>> The song is used as the opening theme for the Showtime series,
>> "Weeds," too, in her version and sung by different artists. I think
>> it would be more closely associated with marijuana than unschooling ;-)
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>
>
>

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"Flowers are Red" by Harry Chapin

hsmamajls

Movies by Hayao Miyazaki really inspire us. Kiki's delivery
service (about a 13 yr. old girl who goes to another city to live on
her own for a year) is fantastic. She comes across lots of mentors
who help her mature as a witch.
Other titles are Nausica of the Valley of the Wind. The title
character is a scientist, leader of her community and a compassionate
naturalist. "My Neighbor Totoro", is about two young girls who
connect to the natural world and are nurtured by animal (totoros)
spirits while their mother is seriously ill in the hospital. It is
about changing your lifestyle, as well.
Three other favorites are "Howl's Moving Castle", "Castle in The
Sky", and "Spirted Away". He also does Sherlock Home series called
Sherlock Hound.
My personal favorite is "Grave of the Fireflies". It is an
account of two young children, a boy and a girl, and what happens to
their lives during world war 2 in Japan.
A classic song about the effects of education is "The Logical
Song", by Supertramp. exerpt: "so they showed me a world where I
could be so acceptable, opinical, intellectual, cynical. So, won't
you sign up with me, you can be so respectable,.......... a vegetab
le. All the words escape me at the moment, but I will download to
the MP3, because it's such a case against rigidity and over-
intellectualizing!! Love it!

Janice Swegan

Nancy Wooton

On Jul 28, 2008, at 8:32 AM, hsmamajls wrote:

> My personal favorite is "Grave of the Fireflies". It is an
> account of two young children, a boy and a girl, and what happens to
> their lives during world war 2 in Japan.


I love that one, too, but fyi, it's not Miyazaki; it's by Isao Takahata.

Nancy

Anne Mills

Is it the same one as for Weeds credits ?

It is the song for unschoolers is it not ?

I was thinking the Jane Austen movies and Beatrix Potter's are inspiring to unschool and to enlarge the "palette" of colours…

To value nature for inspiration and animal observation, to portrait characters or draw from people and learn about ourselves. To find purpose and embrace our talents. To find fun in little things like writing or painting watercolors.

Anne






________________________________
> To: [email protected]
> From: dapsign@...
> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:25:47 +0000
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Finding Unschooling philosphy in mainstream culture - can you too? :-)
>
>
> I sing that song to DS (almost 2) all the time and he LOVES it.
>
> Dina
>
> --- In [email protected], Nancy Wooton wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Vicki Dennis wrote:
>>
>>> Little Boxes" is actually Malvina Reynolds although she had no
>>> objection
>>> to her friend Pete Seeger performing and making it even more popular.
>>
>> The song is used as the opening theme for the Showtime series,
>> "Weeds," too, in her version and sung by different artists. I think
>> it would be more closely associated with marijuana than unschooling ;-)
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>
>
>

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> Movies by Hayao Miyazaki really inspire us.

Us too! Especially since we have girls. I love that they all have
strong female characters that don't want to be/or are princesses.

Robyn Coburn

"You Can't Take it With You" with Lionel Barrymore & James Stewart
amongst others. Adults spending all day long doing exactly what they
feel like. Keep your eyes open on Turner Classic Movies for it.

Trivia: Barrymore spends the movie on crutches. I heard it was because
he had an injury just before shooting started and they worked it into
his character delightfully.

Robyn L. Coburn
www.iggyjingles.blogspot.com

Kelly Nishan

I have been reading "ME" Katherine Heprun's autobiography and her
childhood was very unschooly. Her parents were very progressive. Her
mom graduated from college in spite of opposition from her uncle who
was her guardian. She was involved in women's rights issues such as
voting and birth control. Her dad was a doctor who was very invovled
in education and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases.

In describing her childhood she says they had no rules and tremendous
freedom. When people came to her mother about her climbing in trees
or riding her bike downtown her mother would just smile and say thank
you. After her brother died when she was 14 she did not return to
school. Her parents let her drive before she had a liscense to get
around town. Her dad didn't approve of her becoming an actress but
continued to support her financially as well as emotionally anyway.
No wonder she was so cool!
Kelly

Cameron Parham

We like to sing several unschooly songs; here's one:
"When I think back on all the crap I learned in highschool
      It's a wonder I can think at all...."  Kodachrome, by Simon and Garfunkel



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Kim & Jim Studzinski

HA! I never even gave that a second thought as I was singing it at the top of my lungs - it's one of my favorites! Thanks for making me think about those lyrics...
Kim

----- Original Message -----
From: Cameron Parham
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Finding Unschooling philosphy in mainstream culture - can you too? :-)


We like to sing several unschooly songs; here's one:
"When I think back on all the crap I learned in highschool
It's a wonder I can think at all...." Kodachrome, by Simon and Garfunkel



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Sandra Dodd

-=-I have been reading "ME" Katherine Hep[burn]'s autobiography and her
childhood was very unschooly.-=-



I've read that too. It's really interesting.

I like biographies. I liked Kenneth Brannagh's and The Dalai Lama's
(I only read that one up until he left Tibet).



Sandra

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k

Yeh... Logical Song is a great one. One of my favorites, it's like whining
and dreaming at the same time.... wistfulness. Here's the lyrics. I think
it's so great I wanted to be sure put the words for anybody who doesn't
remember because surely they've heard but if you haven't heard.... There's
youtubes of that song if you want to listen to it. I did! :)

~Katherine


The Logical Song by Supertramp

When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful,
A miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical.
And all the birds in the trees, well theyd be singing so happily,
Joyfully, playfully watching me.
But then they send me away to teach me how to be sensible,
Logical, responsible, practical.
And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable,
Clinical, intellectual, cynical.

There are times when all the worlds asleep,
The questions run too deep
For such a simple man.
Wont you please, please tell me what weve learned
I know it sounds absurd
But please tell me who I am.

Now watch what you say or theyll be calling you a radical,
Liberal, fanatical, criminal.
Wont you sign up your name, wed like to feel youre
Acceptable, respecable, presentable, a vegtable!

At night, when all the worlds asleep,
The questions run so deep
For such a simple man.
Wont you please, please tell me what weve learned
I know it sounds absurd
But please tell me who I am.

On 7/28/08, hsmamajls <jlsflight@...> wrote:
>
>
> Movies by Hayao Miyazaki really inspire us. Kiki's delivery
> service (about a 13 yr. old girl who goes to another city to live on
> her own for a year) is fantastic. She comes across lots of mentors
> who help her mature as a witch.
> Other titles are Nausica of the Valley of the Wind. The title
> character is a scientist, leader of her community and a compassionate
> naturalist. "My Neighbor Totoro", is about two young girls who
> connect to the natural world and are nurtured by animal (totoros)
> spirits while their mother is seriously ill in the hospital. It is
> about changing your lifestyle, as well.
> Three other favorites are "Howl's Moving Castle", "Castle in The
> Sky", and "Spirted Away". He also does Sherlock Home series called
> Sherlock Hound.
> My personal favorite is "Grave of the Fireflies". It is an
> account of two young children, a boy and a girl, and what happens to
> their lives during world war 2 in Japan.
> A classic song about the effects of education is "The Logical
> Song", by Supertramp. exerpt: "so they showed me a world where I
> could be so acceptable, opinical, intellectual, cynical. So, won't
> you sign up with me, you can be so respectable,.......... a vegetab
> le. All the words escape me at the moment, but I will download to
> the MP3, because it's such a case against rigidity and over-
> intellectualizing!! Love it!
>
> Janice Swegan
>
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Bob Collier

--- In [email protected], "almadoing" <almadoing@...> wrote:
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>
>
> This is more anti school than pro unschooling but I was a sullen,
> rebellious and receptive 16 year old when Pink Floyd's "Another brick
> in the wall" came out. I must have listened to that song a million
> times. I felt like I was waking up to the reality of the controlled
> life I had led and felt to my very core the horror of "thought
> control" and "dark sarcasm" etc.


At my daughter's Year 12 graduation in 2002, there was a rock band
made up of students from her college to entertain us after the
presentations and before the speeches and that was the song the band
performed - "Another Brick in the Wall". A strange choice in the
circumstances, I thought. :-)

Which reminds me. Unschooling philosophy in mainstream culture - Jack
Black's School of Rock.

Bob

Arp Laszlo

I forgot to mention 'Ferdinand' by Munro Leaf. A classic tale about a bull
who just does his own thing.


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