new to unschooling
nrskay
My 11 yo dtr went to school for the 1st 3 years and I attempted to
homeschool the last 2 years. She hated school and I think hated
homeschooling even more. She won't talk to me about it and I was
ready to call it quits.
But then I came across unschooling by accident. I have read some of
the posts and read "The Unschooling Handbook" by Mary Griffith. I
know deep down this is what we need, but I'm a bit scared. I tried to
share with her what I would like to do, but she just looked at me and
shrugged her shoulders.
Do I just let her be and she will begin to develop her interests? She
loves her computer and actually taught herself to type this summer and
how to program and design a website.
She is very interested in animals and I was thinking of asking her if
she wants to volunteer at one of the local kennels.
I'm just not sure what to do. Most of my friends homeschool the
traditional way and I feel uncomfortable talking to them about this.
Kay
homeschool the last 2 years. She hated school and I think hated
homeschooling even more. She won't talk to me about it and I was
ready to call it quits.
But then I came across unschooling by accident. I have read some of
the posts and read "The Unschooling Handbook" by Mary Griffith. I
know deep down this is what we need, but I'm a bit scared. I tried to
share with her what I would like to do, but she just looked at me and
shrugged her shoulders.
Do I just let her be and she will begin to develop her interests? She
loves her computer and actually taught herself to type this summer and
how to program and design a website.
She is very interested in animals and I was thinking of asking her if
she wants to volunteer at one of the local kennels.
I'm just not sure what to do. Most of my friends homeschool the
traditional way and I feel uncomfortable talking to them about this.
Kay
soggyboysmom
--- In [email protected], "nrskay"
<okmardesich@c...> wrote:
year or more for you to deschool as well. Stop discussing it. Just
do it.
and website design so far. Keep going. If there's something she asks
for (a book on web design, a better graphics package, etc) do what
you can to facilitate it - help her research the options, determine
where it fits in the budget (we can buy this low end $25 package now
or we can wait 3 months and get the really nice one for $75 - what
are HER priorities - have it now, or live with what she has knowing
that what she really would prefer is coming), etc. Consider her a
real person. How would you address interests a partner or friend
has? For instance, my DH likes music, silly music, jazz, blues,
classical, Celtic are tops on the hit parade. So, if I see a TV
program advertised or find out about a concert or whatever, I bring
it to his attention. From there, it's up to him to pursue it or not.
It's not about me. My DS (he's 7, never been schooled) realy enjoyed
seeing the movie The Fantastic Four. He was talking about it a lot
for weeks. One day, I was out doing errands and stopped in at a
bookstore (forget the exact reason). As I was looking for whatever
it was, I spotted a Fantastic Four graphic novel ("comic book") so I
picked it up. I brought it home and put it by DS' place at the
dinner table (that's the place things get noticed - if I want DH to
see something, I put it by his place). He looked at it a bit and it
has been sitting all alone since then. But, it's there if he wants
it. It's his and it's his *choice*.
perceived as a sneaky way to get her to do school - "it's
educational - science, etc". If -you- want to, get the info (is she
old enough, for example, and what types of activities are involved,
and what is the time committment they ask for, etc). Then you'll
have it available if she expresses an interest in it. Or, wait a
year and then ask - by then hopefully you'll have changed the
balance so she'll see it as you just strewing yet another item of
possible interest for her to consider.
--Deb
<okmardesich@c...> wrote:
> My 11 yo dtr went to school for the 1st 3 years and I attempted toSo you've got at least half a year for her to 'deschool' - and a
> homeschool the last 2 years. She hated school and I think hated
> homeschooling even more. She won't talk to me about it and I was
> ready to call it quits.
year or more for you to deschool as well. Stop discussing it. Just
do it.
> Do I just let her be and she will begin to develop her interests?She *already* is developing her own interests - computer programming
>She
> loves her computer and actually taught herself to type this summer
>and
> how to program and design a website.
and website design so far. Keep going. If there's something she asks
for (a book on web design, a better graphics package, etc) do what
you can to facilitate it - help her research the options, determine
where it fits in the budget (we can buy this low end $25 package now
or we can wait 3 months and get the really nice one for $75 - what
are HER priorities - have it now, or live with what she has knowing
that what she really would prefer is coming), etc. Consider her a
real person. How would you address interests a partner or friend
has? For instance, my DH likes music, silly music, jazz, blues,
classical, Celtic are tops on the hit parade. So, if I see a TV
program advertised or find out about a concert or whatever, I bring
it to his attention. From there, it's up to him to pursue it or not.
It's not about me. My DS (he's 7, never been schooled) realy enjoyed
seeing the movie The Fantastic Four. He was talking about it a lot
for weeks. One day, I was out doing errands and stopped in at a
bookstore (forget the exact reason). As I was looking for whatever
it was, I spotted a Fantastic Four graphic novel ("comic book") so I
picked it up. I brought it home and put it by DS' place at the
dinner table (that's the place things get noticed - if I want DH to
see something, I put it by his place). He looked at it a bit and it
has been sitting all alone since then. But, it's there if he wants
it. It's his and it's his *choice*.
> She is very interested in animals and I was thinking of asking herI wouldn't ask at this point. Mainly because it's liable to be
>if
> she wants to volunteer at one of the local kennels.
perceived as a sneaky way to get her to do school - "it's
educational - science, etc". If -you- want to, get the info (is she
old enough, for example, and what types of activities are involved,
and what is the time committment they ask for, etc). Then you'll
have it available if she expresses an interest in it. Or, wait a
year and then ask - by then hopefully you'll have changed the
balance so she'll see it as you just strewing yet another item of
possible interest for her to consider.
--Deb
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: nrskay <okmardesich@...>
My 11 yo dtr went to school for the 1st 3 years and I attempted to
homeschool the last 2 years. She hated school and I think hated
homeschooling even more. She won't talk to me about it and I was
ready to call it quits.
But then I came across unschooling by accident. I have read some of
the posts and read "The Unschooling Handbook" by Mary Griffith. I
know deep down this is what we need, but I'm a bit scared. I tried to
share with her what I would like to do, but she just looked at me and
shrugged her shoulders.
=-=-=-
I went through that too. Cameron thought I was off my rocker! <g>
Will she read a book you recommend? Or let you read it to her? Get The
Teenage Liberation Handbook by Grace Llewellyn. It explains it to teens
(and many parents! <g>).
-=-=-=-=-
Do I just let her be and she will begin to develop her interests?
-=-=--=
Yes. And no.
Let her be a bit to heal, but keep offering fun things to do each day:
go to the beach
eat at a Japanese restaurant
make maki sushi yourselves, after visiting an Asian grocery
go to the zoo
make up your own brownie recipe
plant carrots
buy a venus fly-trap
go Christmas window-shopping (we're doing that today!)
watch a "vertical" of Johnny Depp (all films with him---or Jack
Nicholson or Hilary Duff--or all Hitchcock films)
spend all day in pjs watching cartoons and eating popcorn
make stone soup
tie-dye her sheets and pillow cases
design your own bumper stickers
wtach "unschooly" films: Ferris Bueller, Pippi Longstocking
Just *offer*to do something new each day. If *she* doesn't want to join
you, don't give up----YOU do it. Let her see you having fun. Don't try
to "teach" her anything---NO STRINGS!---just have fun, like summer
vacation!
-=-=-=
She loves her computer and actually taught herself to type this summer
and
how to program and design a website.
-=-=-=-
Maybe ask her to set up a weblog for you to record your
unschooling---check out Danielle Conger's.
Anyone have Danielle's blogsite handy?
-=-=-=-
She is very interested in animals and I was thinking of asking her if
she wants to volunteer at one of the local kennels.
-=-=-=-
We've been having a great time raising a guide dog for Southeastern
Guide Dogs. It's a big commitment and a lot of work, but it's been fun!
Or maybe find a show dog handling class and look for a show
pup---almost all breeders will give a serious junior handler a nice pup
if she promises to show him. (I can help with that if she's interested.)
-=-=-=-=-
I'm just not sure what to do. Most of my friends homeschool the
traditional way and I feel uncomfortable talking to them about this.
-=-=-
I understand. That's why we're here! <g>
Where do you live? There may be a big unschooling group where you are.
Maybe we can help.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
October 6-9, 2005
http://liveandlearnconference.org
From: nrskay <okmardesich@...>
My 11 yo dtr went to school for the 1st 3 years and I attempted to
homeschool the last 2 years. She hated school and I think hated
homeschooling even more. She won't talk to me about it and I was
ready to call it quits.
But then I came across unschooling by accident. I have read some of
the posts and read "The Unschooling Handbook" by Mary Griffith. I
know deep down this is what we need, but I'm a bit scared. I tried to
share with her what I would like to do, but she just looked at me and
shrugged her shoulders.
=-=-=-
I went through that too. Cameron thought I was off my rocker! <g>
Will she read a book you recommend? Or let you read it to her? Get The
Teenage Liberation Handbook by Grace Llewellyn. It explains it to teens
(and many parents! <g>).
-=-=-=-=-
Do I just let her be and she will begin to develop her interests?
-=-=--=
Yes. And no.
Let her be a bit to heal, but keep offering fun things to do each day:
go to the beach
eat at a Japanese restaurant
make maki sushi yourselves, after visiting an Asian grocery
go to the zoo
make up your own brownie recipe
plant carrots
buy a venus fly-trap
go Christmas window-shopping (we're doing that today!)
watch a "vertical" of Johnny Depp (all films with him---or Jack
Nicholson or Hilary Duff--or all Hitchcock films)
spend all day in pjs watching cartoons and eating popcorn
make stone soup
tie-dye her sheets and pillow cases
design your own bumper stickers
wtach "unschooly" films: Ferris Bueller, Pippi Longstocking
Just *offer*to do something new each day. If *she* doesn't want to join
you, don't give up----YOU do it. Let her see you having fun. Don't try
to "teach" her anything---NO STRINGS!---just have fun, like summer
vacation!
-=-=-=
She loves her computer and actually taught herself to type this summer
and
how to program and design a website.
-=-=-=-
Maybe ask her to set up a weblog for you to record your
unschooling---check out Danielle Conger's.
Anyone have Danielle's blogsite handy?
-=-=-=-
She is very interested in animals and I was thinking of asking her if
she wants to volunteer at one of the local kennels.
-=-=-=-
We've been having a great time raising a guide dog for Southeastern
Guide Dogs. It's a big commitment and a lot of work, but it's been fun!
Or maybe find a show dog handling class and look for a show
pup---almost all breeders will give a serious junior handler a nice pup
if she promises to show him. (I can help with that if she's interested.)
-=-=-=-=-
I'm just not sure what to do. Most of my friends homeschool the
traditional way and I feel uncomfortable talking to them about this.
-=-=-
I understand. That's why we're here! <g>
Where do you live? There may be a big unschooling group where you are.
Maybe we can help.
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
October 6-9, 2005
http://liveandlearnconference.org
[email protected]
<<I tried to share with her what I wanted to do>>
As hard as it is for you to wrap your mind around unschooling, it is likely to be even harder for her since she has been to school and then structured homeschooling. I would suggest talking to her about how hs has seemed rather stressful and you guys need a break. Call it "extended summer" or whatever. Then just do what you would normally do on a Saturday or Sunday,....just do it every day. When something you think might interest her comes up, ask her about it. Do the things you are interested in.
Making a big announcement about unschooling may kind of freak her out....my oldest (now 14) was kind of like "oh great, another one of mom's nutty ideas."
Julie S.
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As hard as it is for you to wrap your mind around unschooling, it is likely to be even harder for her since she has been to school and then structured homeschooling. I would suggest talking to her about how hs has seemed rather stressful and you guys need a break. Call it "extended summer" or whatever. Then just do what you would normally do on a Saturday or Sunday,....just do it every day. When something you think might interest her comes up, ask her about it. Do the things you are interested in.
Making a big announcement about unschooling may kind of freak her out....my oldest (now 14) was kind of like "oh great, another one of mom's nutty ideas."
Julie S.
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Angela S.
> She is very interested in animals and I was thinking of asking her ifKay,
> she wants to volunteer at one of the local kennels.
> I'm just not sure what to do. Most of my friends homeschool the
> traditional way and I feel uncomfortable talking to them about this.
> Kay
Yes, I would just do whatever it takes to help her to be happy, at this
point. If she wants to help at the shelter or do anything else you offer,
great. If she doesn't, don't take it as an insult, just continue to offer
her things that you think she would be interested in, and follow your own
interests at the same time. When she trusts that you don't have ulterior
motives and you have her best interests at heart then she will be open to
what you offer. She may need a lot of time to de-school but it sounds like
she already has many interests. Good luck!
Angela
game-enthusiast@...
Ren Allen
"Is this how unschooling is going to last or can hope that she will
soon lose interest in so much game and tv time."
Why would you want her to lose interest in something that brings her
joy? Would you say "Is this how unschooling is going to last or can I
hope that she will soon lose interest in so much reading and book time?"
I can't tell you what unschooling will look like in your home! I have
a child whose interest in video games has not waned a bit in years.
He's learned a LOT from his love of these games. I wouldn't want him
to lose interest in them when they bring him so much joy!
I can tell you that if you honor ALL of her interests, it will help
unschooling in your home....if that is your goal.
"She is a good reader but
the teacher drilled it into her head so much in 3rd grade school that
she wasn't as good as the rest of the kids so now she doesn't even
want to try."
That's what coercion and force do to the love of learning. Why would
you want to perpetuate that problem?
"I am worried about her learning things that I feel are important like
reading and math. Any suggestions or reassurance would be great."
Relax. That's my suggestion. The reading and math happen as part of
LIVING. You're worried about video games, but they're FULL of real
life reading and math. Take a deep breath and see her learning
unfolding already. She IS learning reading and math, just not in the
way you pictured it.
"My husband and I think an approach like the following might be best
Monday - bible, Health
Tuesday - bible, Journal or story writing
Wednesday - Bible, History , Math
Thursday and Friday free to do as wishes"
Then you want to do what the schools did to her. Unschooling is not
your goal in this case. I can't help you with what you wrote above...I
CAN help you get to unschooling if you want. But that list above needs
to go in the trash first.:)
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
soon lose interest in so much game and tv time."
Why would you want her to lose interest in something that brings her
joy? Would you say "Is this how unschooling is going to last or can I
hope that she will soon lose interest in so much reading and book time?"
I can't tell you what unschooling will look like in your home! I have
a child whose interest in video games has not waned a bit in years.
He's learned a LOT from his love of these games. I wouldn't want him
to lose interest in them when they bring him so much joy!
I can tell you that if you honor ALL of her interests, it will help
unschooling in your home....if that is your goal.
"She is a good reader but
the teacher drilled it into her head so much in 3rd grade school that
she wasn't as good as the rest of the kids so now she doesn't even
want to try."
That's what coercion and force do to the love of learning. Why would
you want to perpetuate that problem?
"I am worried about her learning things that I feel are important like
reading and math. Any suggestions or reassurance would be great."
Relax. That's my suggestion. The reading and math happen as part of
LIVING. You're worried about video games, but they're FULL of real
life reading and math. Take a deep breath and see her learning
unfolding already. She IS learning reading and math, just not in the
way you pictured it.
"My husband and I think an approach like the following might be best
Monday - bible, Health
Tuesday - bible, Journal or story writing
Wednesday - Bible, History , Math
Thursday and Friday free to do as wishes"
Then you want to do what the schools did to her. Unschooling is not
your goal in this case. I can't help you with what you wrote above...I
CAN help you get to unschooling if you want. But that list above needs
to go in the trash first.:)
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Su Penn
On Feb 25, 2006, at 5:47 PM, Ren Allen wrote:
out of school for a "de-schooling period." Oddly enough, my parents
thought I read too much. I read very fast, and my mother didn't
believe I actually read the books I claimed to. She used to quiz me.
She refused to buy me books because I read them so fast she didn't
think she got her money's worth out them (never mind that I read
books I loved over and over). I was forbidden to spend my allowance
on books, leading to the bizarre scenario of me _pretending_ I had
used my allowance to go out for pizza but actually buying books with
it, which I then had to smuggle into the house and hide. I used to
read with the TV on so my mother would think I was watching TV
instead of reading books. My grandmother stopped giving me money for
my birthday and Christmas because she didn't like me spending it on
books.
I also had to sneak to read books above my grade level when I was in
elementary school.
So books were limited for me--the limit created sneaking, lying, and
mistrust--and if my parents had suddenly said, "OK, you can do
whatever you want," I'd have done nothing but read for weeks or
months. In fact, my favorite day of the year used to be my school's
annual Read-a-Thon, the one day of the year I had permission to do
nothing but read all day.
As an adult, I still sometimes read "too much." One of my friends and
I joke that if we took that "Are You an Alcoholic?" quiz from AA, but
substituted "reading" for "drinking," we'd definitely qualify as
addicts. I'm not bragging; it really has been a problem sometimes.
Su
> Why would you want her to lose interest in something that brings herI had to laugh because this would have been me if I had been taken
> joy? Would you say "Is this how unschooling is going to last or can I
> hope that she will soon lose interest in so much reading and book
> time?"
out of school for a "de-schooling period." Oddly enough, my parents
thought I read too much. I read very fast, and my mother didn't
believe I actually read the books I claimed to. She used to quiz me.
She refused to buy me books because I read them so fast she didn't
think she got her money's worth out them (never mind that I read
books I loved over and over). I was forbidden to spend my allowance
on books, leading to the bizarre scenario of me _pretending_ I had
used my allowance to go out for pizza but actually buying books with
it, which I then had to smuggle into the house and hide. I used to
read with the TV on so my mother would think I was watching TV
instead of reading books. My grandmother stopped giving me money for
my birthday and Christmas because she didn't like me spending it on
books.
I also had to sneak to read books above my grade level when I was in
elementary school.
So books were limited for me--the limit created sneaking, lying, and
mistrust--and if my parents had suddenly said, "OK, you can do
whatever you want," I'd have done nothing but read for weeks or
months. In fact, my favorite day of the year used to be my school's
annual Read-a-Thon, the one day of the year I had permission to do
nothing but read all day.
As an adult, I still sometimes read "too much." One of my friends and
I joke that if we took that "Are You an Alcoholic?" quiz from AA, but
substituted "reading" for "drinking," we'd definitely qualify as
addicts. I'm not bragging; it really has been a problem sometimes.
Su
Momma
"I am worried about her learning things that I feel are important like
reading and math. Any suggestions or reassurance would be great."
I would like to suggest that you read any of John Holts books. It made a
huge difference in how I saw "education."
-Dawn in Texas
_____
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reading and math. Any suggestions or reassurance would be great."
I would like to suggest that you read any of John Holts books. It made a
huge difference in how I saw "education."
-Dawn in Texas
_____
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Nicole Willoughby
My husband and I are so very much the opposite . I dont read as much as I like lately because seem to really need quiet to read and by the time I get that its read or sleep .........Ive just been choosing sleep most nights . My husband however goes through books like water and we find it almost impossible to turn down or childrens request for a book.
Nicole
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Melissa
rotfl....that's me and my Josh. When he was in school, his favorite
day was 'read-o-rama'. All the other kids would moan and groan, and
Josh would be cheering. He missed so much of class because he would
just read and get lost, and honestly never hear the teacher say
anything about moving on. :-P
I don't limit books, but for the longest time I *did* worry that he
wasn't getting enough of other stuff. Kind of like junk food or
something....and then just took a breath, and let it go. I did once
ask him if he would at least read OUTSIDE...so i could tell his dad
that he got fresh air that day!
Me...I do that too, if I find a good book, I'll go without sleep a
few days to make sure I can finish it. So you're not alone, I tell my
husband, 'it's not an addiction, it's an obsession!'
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
day was 'read-o-rama'. All the other kids would moan and groan, and
Josh would be cheering. He missed so much of class because he would
just read and get lost, and honestly never hear the teacher say
anything about moving on. :-P
I don't limit books, but for the longest time I *did* worry that he
wasn't getting enough of other stuff. Kind of like junk food or
something....and then just took a breath, and let it go. I did once
ask him if he would at least read OUTSIDE...so i could tell his dad
that he got fresh air that day!
Me...I do that too, if I find a good book, I'll go without sleep a
few days to make sure I can finish it. So you're not alone, I tell my
husband, 'it's not an addiction, it's an obsession!'
Melissa
Mom to Josh (11), Breanna (8), Emily (7), Rachel (6), Sam (4), Dan
(2), and Avari Rose
On Feb 25, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Su Penn wrote:
>
> On Feb 25, 2006, at 5:47 PM, Ren Allen wrote:
>
> > Why would you want her to lose interest in something that brings her
> > joy? Would you say "Is this how unschooling is going to last or
> can I
> > hope that she will soon lose interest in so much reading and book
> > time?"
>
> I had to laugh because this would have been me if I had been taken
> out of school for a "de-schooling period." Oddly enough, my parents
> thought I read too much. I read very fast, and my mother didn't
> believe I actually read the books I claimed to. She used to quiz me.
> She refused to buy me books because I read them so fast she didn't
> think she got her money's worth out them (never mind that I read
> books I loved over and over). I was forbidden to spend my allowance
> on books, leading to the bizarre scenario of me _pretending_ I had
> used my allowance to go out for pizza but actually buying books with
> it, which I then had to smuggle into the house and hide. I used to
> read with the TV on so my mother would think I was watching TV
> instead of reading books. My grandmother stopped giving me money for
> my birthday and Christmas because she didn't like me spending it on
> books.
>
> I also had to sneak to read books above my grade level when I was in
> elementary school.
>
> So books were limited for me--the limit created sneaking, lying, and
> mistrust--and if my parents had suddenly said, "OK, you can do
> whatever you want," I'd have done nothing but read for weeks or
> months. In fact, my favorite day of the year used to be my school's
> annual Read-a-Thon, the one day of the year I had permission to do
> nothing but read all day.
>
> As an adult, I still sometimes read "too much." One of my friends and
> I joke that if we took that "Are You an Alcoholic?" quiz from AA, but
> substituted "reading" for "drinking," we'd definitely qualify as
> addicts. I'm not bragging; it really has been a problem sometimes.
>
> Su
>
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weluv4
I have been a part of my local group of homeschooled kids and
families. I have been hearing so much about unschooling I thought I
would "Check it out" I am currently homeschooling using a Charter
program and hate it. My kids love to learn about so many different
things and this program limits their ability to do that.
I am going to pull the kids out of the rigid curriculm and unschool
using their imaginations and ideas. I have been looking at some of the
things some of you do and its wounderful! I now see that unschooling
is not lazyness or anything else.
Hope to get to know everyone. I amy have lots of questions along the
way but I know I can pick some of your brains for the answer.
Michelle
families. I have been hearing so much about unschooling I thought I
would "Check it out" I am currently homeschooling using a Charter
program and hate it. My kids love to learn about so many different
things and this program limits their ability to do that.
I am going to pull the kids out of the rigid curriculm and unschool
using their imaginations and ideas. I have been looking at some of the
things some of you do and its wounderful! I now see that unschooling
is not lazyness or anything else.
Hope to get to know everyone. I amy have lots of questions along the
way but I know I can pick some of your brains for the answer.
Michelle
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/12/2006 1:32:47 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
luvnmykdz@... writes:
Hope to get to know everyone. I amy have lots of questions along the
way but I know I can pick some of your brains for the answer.
Michelle
nice to meet you michelle, and as long as its my brain and not my nose we'll
be ok.......but I don't know much.........so I don't have to worry.......I
just started too.........LOL
Mandy
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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luvnmykdz@... writes:
Hope to get to know everyone. I amy have lots of questions along the
way but I know I can pick some of your brains for the answer.
Michelle
nice to meet you michelle, and as long as its my brain and not my nose we'll
be ok.......but I don't know much.........so I don't have to worry.......I
just started too.........LOL
Mandy
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
(http://www.baby-gaga.com/) (http://www.baby-gaga.com/)
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Joanne
Hello Michelle and welcome!
Good for you for wanting more for your kids! Can I make a
suggestion? When you have some free time, read the archives
here...they're loaded with information. :-) If you have any
questions, feel free to ask.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (7), Shawna (10) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 30, 2003
http://anunschoolinglife.blogspot.com/
http://foreverparents.com
--- In [email protected], "weluv4" <luvnmykdz@...>
wrote:
Good for you for wanting more for your kids! Can I make a
suggestion? When you have some free time, read the archives
here...they're loaded with information. :-) If you have any
questions, feel free to ask.
~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (7), Shawna (10) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 30, 2003
http://anunschoolinglife.blogspot.com/
http://foreverparents.com
--- In [email protected], "weluv4" <luvnmykdz@...>
wrote:
>I
> I have been a part of my local group of homeschooled kids and
> families. I have been hearing so much about unschooling I thought
> would "Check it out" I am currently homeschooling using a Charterunschool
> program and hate it. My kids love to learn about so many different
> things and this program limits their ability to do that.
>
> I am going to pull the kids out of the rigid curriculm and
> using their imaginations and ideas. I have been looking at some ofthe
> things some of you do and its wounderful! I now see thatunschooling
> is not lazyness or anything else.the
>
> Hope to get to know everyone. I amy have lots of questions along
> way but I know I can pick some of your brains for the answer.
>
> Michelle
>
hscomer
Hi,
Me and my husband are looking into unschooling for our children and
were just wanting some ideas to start with. We have a 5yr old and 1 yr
old we are hoping to get started early so it becomes a way of life for
our children.
Bonnie
Me and my husband are looking into unschooling for our children and
were just wanting some ideas to start with. We have a 5yr old and 1 yr
old we are hoping to get started early so it becomes a way of life for
our children.
Bonnie
[email protected]
>>Me and my husband are looking into unschooling for our children and were just wanting some ideas to start with. We have a 5yr old and 1 yr old we are hoping to get started early so it becomes a way of life for our children. >>I'll bet it already is a way of life for your kids! Think about how they learned to walk and talk. Think about them trying new things and playing around with them. Think about how you delight in giving them new experiences just for the joy of watching them explore. Unschooling is a lot like that.
--
~Mary
http://zenmommasgarden.blogspot.com/
"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly
alive."
~Thich Nhat Hanh
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "hscomer" <hscomer@...>
> Hi,
> Me and my husband are looking into unschooling for our children and
> were just wanting some ideas to start with. We have a 5yr old and 1 yr
> old we are hoping to get started early so it becomes a way of life for
> our children.
>
> Bonnie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Ren Allen
Welcome Bonnie.
If you're living with your children joyfully, helping them when they
need help, being their partners and providing a stimulating and
nurturing environment, then you're already making unschooling a
lifestyle. :)
You have the advantage of never having sent them to school, so no
school damage to undo. Cool.
Just keep reading, keep nurturing whatever things they're interested
in (which may be dirt or bugs or water or sand) and trust that they
are learning from living a happy life.
Unschooling IS a lifestyle. One in which we continue giving our
children the freedom to simply BE, throughout their lives, not just as
babies and toddlers.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
If you're living with your children joyfully, helping them when they
need help, being their partners and providing a stimulating and
nurturing environment, then you're already making unschooling a
lifestyle. :)
You have the advantage of never having sent them to school, so no
school damage to undo. Cool.
Just keep reading, keep nurturing whatever things they're interested
in (which may be dirt or bugs or water or sand) and trust that they
are learning from living a happy life.
Unschooling IS a lifestyle. One in which we continue giving our
children the freedom to simply BE, throughout their lives, not just as
babies and toddlers.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
laura
hi my name is laura i have just taken my 6 and 7 year old out of
school this past feb 1 2008 so i am new to all of this a little scared
but i just finished reading parenting a free child an unschooled life
and i loved it. i am now reading teach your own. so we are just going
with the flow of things the only thing that i am worried about is
that i have to turn in a portfolio by june 30 mand i have now idea
where to start with that or what even needs to go into it please help
thanks so much.
school this past feb 1 2008 so i am new to all of this a little scared
but i just finished reading parenting a free child an unschooled life
and i loved it. i am now reading teach your own. so we are just going
with the flow of things the only thing that i am worried about is
that i have to turn in a portfolio by june 30 mand i have now idea
where to start with that or what even needs to go into it please help
thanks so much.
Joyce Fetteroll
On Mar 24, 2008, at 10:13 PM, laura wrote:
state.
A portfolio can be brochures and pictures of activities and creations
for unschoolers.
If you go here:
http://sandradodd.com/world
you can find a state group to ask on.
Joyce
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> i am worried about isWhich state are you in? Rules and expectations are different in each
> that i have to turn in a portfolio by june 30 mand i have now idea
> where to start with that or what even needs to go into it
state.
A portfolio can be brochures and pictures of activities and creations
for unschoolers.
If you go here:
http://sandradodd.com/world
you can find a state group to ask on.
Joyce
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Vickisue Gray
Hi Laura,
I'm Vicki, new to this group, and unschooling my now 10 yo ds.
I pulled him out of private/gifted school at age 7 after the 'system' failed us.
Unschooling has been the greatest discovery for us! Basically, unschooling
is just returning to how we were raising him prior to being convinced by
society, that he needed to be put into the school system.
My best advice would be first relax and just enjoy your child. Play, laugh,
& learn together. It really is true that children can and do enjoy learning.
All you need to do is be there and explore with him/her. Then come back
to these wonderfully helpful unschooling groups and read some more.
Enjoy the journey.
Peace & Laughter,
Vicki ~ mom to dd 17 (almost 18! Yikes! When did that happen?)
Step-mom to dd 15
mom to ds 10
____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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I'm Vicki, new to this group, and unschooling my now 10 yo ds.
I pulled him out of private/gifted school at age 7 after the 'system' failed us.
Unschooling has been the greatest discovery for us! Basically, unschooling
is just returning to how we were raising him prior to being convinced by
society, that he needed to be put into the school system.
My best advice would be first relax and just enjoy your child. Play, laugh,
& learn together. It really is true that children can and do enjoy learning.
All you need to do is be there and explore with him/her. Then come back
to these wonderfully helpful unschooling groups and read some more.
Enjoy the journey.
Peace & Laughter,
Vicki ~ mom to dd 17 (almost 18! Yikes! When did that happen?)
Step-mom to dd 15
mom to ds 10
____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Mamachaos
We are new to UNschooling as well, having homeschooled for so many years. Holt's work, these yahoo pages, Sandradodd.com, Grace Llewellyn's "Teenage Liberation Handbook" are all great things to just pour over. The Teenage Liberation book is written for teenagers (so she says) but it is really all for me! I have 5, 8 and 13 year old boys and this book is extremely relevant to me.
Now that I have read that book, it is filled with highly motivated, creative, active kids. They are all moving forward with great purpose and passion. I am wondering what all of your teens are doing right now. I am looking for inspiration to surround my son with, and trying to engage him in activities that he is interested in. We are stepping of the Schooling ledge and into new territory that leaves me a bit uncomfortable I admit.
Kelley
http://sandandstardust.blogspot.com/
"Childhood is a journey, not a race."
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Now that I have read that book, it is filled with highly motivated, creative, active kids. They are all moving forward with great purpose and passion. I am wondering what all of your teens are doing right now. I am looking for inspiration to surround my son with, and trying to engage him in activities that he is interested in. We are stepping of the Schooling ledge and into new territory that leaves me a bit uncomfortable I admit.
Kelley
http://sandandstardust.blogspot.com/
"Childhood is a journey, not a race."
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Ren Allen
~~They are all moving forward with great purpose and passion. I am
wondering what all of your teens are doing right now.~~
Even great purpose and passion comes in fits and spurts for most of
us. When you read a book or a blog it doesn't seem that way though.:)
I could write about Trevor (18) as though he were moving towards some
great "purpose". He's mostly being Trevor. Playing World of Warcraft,
traveling to see his girlfriend, thinking about moving. Just being
himself and not too worried about what he "should" be doing or moving
towards.
Some people are fire bright and burn with lots of ideas and passions.
Some people are more focused and "inside" themselves. They look calm
and low energy to others.
Everyone's energy and passion meter are totally different. Some ride
the waves and go in surges. Wherever we are, whatever we are
interested in can be just enough. Same with our children.
For as many unschooling teens that are lighting the world on fire,
there are quiet, less passionate ones. It's ok. Let him be wherever he
is for now,keep on pursuing the things you both love and trust that
those interests will lead him wherever he needs to go...with you there
for as much as he needs.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
wondering what all of your teens are doing right now.~~
Even great purpose and passion comes in fits and spurts for most of
us. When you read a book or a blog it doesn't seem that way though.:)
I could write about Trevor (18) as though he were moving towards some
great "purpose". He's mostly being Trevor. Playing World of Warcraft,
traveling to see his girlfriend, thinking about moving. Just being
himself and not too worried about what he "should" be doing or moving
towards.
Some people are fire bright and burn with lots of ideas and passions.
Some people are more focused and "inside" themselves. They look calm
and low energy to others.
Everyone's energy and passion meter are totally different. Some ride
the waves and go in surges. Wherever we are, whatever we are
interested in can be just enough. Same with our children.
For as many unschooling teens that are lighting the world on fire,
there are quiet, less passionate ones. It's ok. Let him be wherever he
is for now,keep on pursuing the things you both love and trust that
those interests will lead him wherever he needs to go...with you there
for as much as he needs.
Ren
learninginfreedom.com
Pamela Sorooshian
On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Mamachaos wrote:
classes a week at her martial arts studio. She's on a soccer team and
practices twice a week and has a game once a week. She takes dance
classes four times a week and has a dance rehearsal (for a dance show)
once a week. She is taking a class in stage make up. She's taking a
basic math class (pre-algebra) at the community college. She's a Girl
Scout and her troop is planning a trip to New York City in June -
taking the train from Southern California. She's also working on her
Gold Award Project - "Martial Arts for All" - which involves helping
make martial arts available to people with disabilities.
She's about to start working on her second script (doing
ScriptFrenzy). On January 5th she wrote a 30,000 word novel. That's
her 5th novel in four years - the other four were each at least 50,000
words in length (did NaNoWriMo).
She's just finished watching the complete West Wing for the second
time (having watched the first three seasons many many times).
She goes to musical theater whenever possible.
She's currently working on an unschooling website - slowly.
Last year she read 200 books - so this year she says she wants to read
250 books. Not sure why they are counting, but both her and her sister
(Roxana) have started keeping track of what they read.
She's working her way through Pikmin - a gamecube game.
She bought a huge box of Robert Heinlein books from a garage sale and
is reading them. She's been reading a lot of Jane Austen and watching
the PBS series of Jane Austen movies on Masterpiece Theater.
She spends two or three days a week hanging out with a group of
friends who all love to play games - they play video games, Risk, D&D,
Magic the Gathering, and whatever other games they happen to feel like
bringing. These game days have been going on for years, now.
She has a boyfriend - they go to a movie together every few weeks, and
like to spend time hanging out together at the bookstore.
She talks to friends online - has friends all over the place.
She reads stuff online - goes from one interesting thing to another.
We play games at home. She makes latch hook rugs from kits. She
crochets a little - makes scarves.
She listens to her ipod - has a HUGE music collection - very eclectic,
but includes a significant amount of musical theater.
That's what I can think of right now.
I also have a 20 year old - Roxana. She's in Paris as part of a study-
abroad program through the community college. She's a musical theater
performer, loves language and literature. She's having a wonderful
time visiting museums and historic sites and learning to live on her
own with roommates in a tiny tiny west bank apartment. She just got
back to Paris on Monday after spending a week visiting cousins and
aunts and uncles (my husband's family) in Germany and Spain. This
weekend she's going to Ireland and the following weekend to London -
both with other kids in the program with her. When Rox comes home,
she's going to spend another year pursuing musical theater and taking
some community college courses, then she plans to transfer to UC
Irvine, most likely, and major either in Comparative Literature or
Anthropology and minor in Theater. She's very intellectual and I'd
guess she'll end up getting a PhD. Unless she makes it BIG on
Broadway, first. We'll see!
My 23 year old, Roya, graduated from college with a degree in
Recreation and Leisure studies. She spent that summer working as an
assistant forest ranger in the back country of Alaska. Now she works
for a nonprofit organization that provides services to adults with
developmental disabilities. She is the event planner - she plans and
runs trips and activities. They went to Sea World one week, had a
bowling party another, stuff like that. But they also have BIG trips -
they just went to a dude ranch in Arizona and they're going on an
Alaskan cruise and week-long trip to London. She's totally in charge
of all the planning and administering and carrying out of these trips.
She just had a performance review and they gave her a 6% raise. She
LOVES her job.
Roya also takes kung fu (Rosie is one of her instructors). She does
ceramics, paints, has a bird, supports herself - living on her own
with her boyfriend and just bought herself a new Toyota Yaris. This
week she drew and painted a big mural on a wall at my sister's house.
She's very artistic and crafty - crochets and knits and makes quilts.
She goes running and swimming regularly.
Enough? <G>
Support their passions when they are young. They'll stay passionate as
they get older!
-pam
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> Now that I have read that book, it is filled with highly motivated,Rosie is 17. She has a black belt in Kung Fu and teaches about 8 to 10
> creative, active kids. They are all moving forward with great
> purpose and passion. I am wondering what all of your teens are doing
> right now. I am looking for inspiration to surround my son with, and
> trying to engage him in activities that he is interested in. We are
> stepping of the Schooling ledge and into new territory that leaves
> me a bit uncomfortable I admit.
classes a week at her martial arts studio. She's on a soccer team and
practices twice a week and has a game once a week. She takes dance
classes four times a week and has a dance rehearsal (for a dance show)
once a week. She is taking a class in stage make up. She's taking a
basic math class (pre-algebra) at the community college. She's a Girl
Scout and her troop is planning a trip to New York City in June -
taking the train from Southern California. She's also working on her
Gold Award Project - "Martial Arts for All" - which involves helping
make martial arts available to people with disabilities.
She's about to start working on her second script (doing
ScriptFrenzy). On January 5th she wrote a 30,000 word novel. That's
her 5th novel in four years - the other four were each at least 50,000
words in length (did NaNoWriMo).
She's just finished watching the complete West Wing for the second
time (having watched the first three seasons many many times).
She goes to musical theater whenever possible.
She's currently working on an unschooling website - slowly.
Last year she read 200 books - so this year she says she wants to read
250 books. Not sure why they are counting, but both her and her sister
(Roxana) have started keeping track of what they read.
She's working her way through Pikmin - a gamecube game.
She bought a huge box of Robert Heinlein books from a garage sale and
is reading them. She's been reading a lot of Jane Austen and watching
the PBS series of Jane Austen movies on Masterpiece Theater.
She spends two or three days a week hanging out with a group of
friends who all love to play games - they play video games, Risk, D&D,
Magic the Gathering, and whatever other games they happen to feel like
bringing. These game days have been going on for years, now.
She has a boyfriend - they go to a movie together every few weeks, and
like to spend time hanging out together at the bookstore.
She talks to friends online - has friends all over the place.
She reads stuff online - goes from one interesting thing to another.
We play games at home. She makes latch hook rugs from kits. She
crochets a little - makes scarves.
She listens to her ipod - has a HUGE music collection - very eclectic,
but includes a significant amount of musical theater.
That's what I can think of right now.
I also have a 20 year old - Roxana. She's in Paris as part of a study-
abroad program through the community college. She's a musical theater
performer, loves language and literature. She's having a wonderful
time visiting museums and historic sites and learning to live on her
own with roommates in a tiny tiny west bank apartment. She just got
back to Paris on Monday after spending a week visiting cousins and
aunts and uncles (my husband's family) in Germany and Spain. This
weekend she's going to Ireland and the following weekend to London -
both with other kids in the program with her. When Rox comes home,
she's going to spend another year pursuing musical theater and taking
some community college courses, then she plans to transfer to UC
Irvine, most likely, and major either in Comparative Literature or
Anthropology and minor in Theater. She's very intellectual and I'd
guess she'll end up getting a PhD. Unless she makes it BIG on
Broadway, first. We'll see!
My 23 year old, Roya, graduated from college with a degree in
Recreation and Leisure studies. She spent that summer working as an
assistant forest ranger in the back country of Alaska. Now she works
for a nonprofit organization that provides services to adults with
developmental disabilities. She is the event planner - she plans and
runs trips and activities. They went to Sea World one week, had a
bowling party another, stuff like that. But they also have BIG trips -
they just went to a dude ranch in Arizona and they're going on an
Alaskan cruise and week-long trip to London. She's totally in charge
of all the planning and administering and carrying out of these trips.
She just had a performance review and they gave her a 6% raise. She
LOVES her job.
Roya also takes kung fu (Rosie is one of her instructors). She does
ceramics, paints, has a bird, supports herself - living on her own
with her boyfriend and just bought herself a new Toyota Yaris. This
week she drew and painted a big mural on a wall at my sister's house.
She's very artistic and crafty - crochets and knits and makes quilts.
She goes running and swimming regularly.
Enough? <G>
Support their passions when they are young. They'll stay passionate as
they get older!
-pam
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Pamela Sorooshian
On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Ren Allen wrote:
Even my high-energy passionate kids have long long long times where
most people wouldn't say they are moving forward toward any purpose!
I've written before about Rosie's (passionate) year or more of
watching Nick at Night - we watched every episode of Roseanne and of
the Cosby Show - over and over and over and over. I really truly
memorized large parts of the scripts and "I" wasn't even watching half
as often as she was.
After months and months of watching - she began, slowly, to analyze
the parenting practices in these two shows. We had a lot of
conversations about this. It was an extremely valuable time, but, to
most people it would have looked like she was "just sitting in front
of the boob tube," I suppose.
-pam
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> For as many unschooling teens that are lighting the world on fire,Oh YES.
> there are quiet, less passionate ones. It's ok.
Even my high-energy passionate kids have long long long times where
most people wouldn't say they are moving forward toward any purpose!
I've written before about Rosie's (passionate) year or more of
watching Nick at Night - we watched every episode of Roseanne and of
the Cosby Show - over and over and over and over. I really truly
memorized large parts of the scripts and "I" wasn't even watching half
as often as she was.
After months and months of watching - she began, slowly, to analyze
the parenting practices in these two shows. We had a lot of
conversations about this. It was an extremely valuable time, but, to
most people it would have looked like she was "just sitting in front
of the boob tube," I suppose.
-pam
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BRIAN POLIKOWSKY
there you go Robin. This is the Meredith they were talking about in AlwaysLearning.
Ask away...she is one of those people that live in my head when I need inspiration.
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
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Ask away...she is one of those people that live in my head when I need inspiration.
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
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tanya3boyd
Just started homeschooling this year and have three kids 10,8, and 5
and Im interested in unschooling just wont more info.
and Im interested in unschooling just wont more info.
Kelly Lovejoy
-----Original Message-----
From: tanya3boyd <tanya3boyd@...>
Just started homeschooling this year and have three kids 10,8, and 5
and Im interested in unschooling just wont more info.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Tanya,
You might want to check out these two websites:
www.joyfullrejoycing.com
www.sandradodd.com/unschooling
You could read for months and still not finish the sites.
Also, we suggest that you read the archives here. You can do a search for particular subjects; just
type the subject the "search" feature.
Also---as a newbie, you are on moderation. That's why your post didn't show up right away. One of us
moderators has to be on the computer before we can approve it! <g> Just be patient. We'll get your
posts up as soon as we can!
~Kelly
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
From: tanya3boyd <tanya3boyd@...>
Just started homeschooling this year and have three kids 10,8, and 5
and Im interested in unschooling just wont more info.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Tanya,
You might want to check out these two websites:
www.joyfullrejoycing.com
www.sandradodd.com/unschooling
You could read for months and still not finish the sites.
Also, we suggest that you read the archives here. You can do a search for particular subjects; just
type the subject the "search" feature.
Also---as a newbie, you are on moderation. That's why your post didn't show up right away. One of us
moderators has to be on the computer before we can approve it! <g> Just be patient. We'll get your
posts up as soon as we can!
~Kelly
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beckiecarsey
I finally got things together, and took my oldest son out of the
"online schooling" program. I must admit,I went into it, not knowing
who to contact or how to do the application.This fall, I will know
better, than to let myself get backed into a corner.I went by their
requirements, and designed his curriculum; He is in 11th grade, and
has passed almost all of the courses on their list.So now we are stuck
with classes he would rather not do.I am trying to find advanced books
online, so he will not get bored.Can anyone advise me of a book to
read on the ins and outs of unschooling, so I will be more prepared
next fall?
"online schooling" program. I must admit,I went into it, not knowing
who to contact or how to do the application.This fall, I will know
better, than to let myself get backed into a corner.I went by their
requirements, and designed his curriculum; He is in 11th grade, and
has passed almost all of the courses on their list.So now we are stuck
with classes he would rather not do.I am trying to find advanced books
online, so he will not get bored.Can anyone advise me of a book to
read on the ins and outs of unschooling, so I will be more prepared
next fall?
BRIAN POLIKOWSKY
You cn read about unschooling here:
http://joyfullyrejoycing.com/
http://sandradodd.com/
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
----- Original Message ----
From: beckiecarsey <beckiecarsey@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 7:46:40 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] new to unschooling
I finally got things together, and took my oldest son out of the
"online schooling" program. I must admit,I went into it, not knowing
who to contact or how to do the application. This fall, I will know
better, than to let myself get backed into a corner.I went by their
requirements, and designed his curriculum; He is in 11th grade, and
has passed almost all of the courses on their list.So now we are stuck
with classes he would rather not do.I am trying to find advanced books
online, so he will not get bored.Can anyone advise me of a book to
read on the ins and outs of unschooling, so I will be more prepared
next fall?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
http://joyfullyrejoycing.com/
http://sandradodd.com/
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
----- Original Message ----
From: beckiecarsey <beckiecarsey@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 7:46:40 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] new to unschooling
I finally got things together, and took my oldest son out of the
"online schooling" program. I must admit,I went into it, not knowing
who to contact or how to do the application. This fall, I will know
better, than to let myself get backed into a corner.I went by their
requirements, and designed his curriculum; He is in 11th grade, and
has passed almost all of the courses on their list.So now we are stuck
with classes he would rather not do.I am trying to find advanced books
online, so he will not get bored.Can anyone advise me of a book to
read on the ins and outs of unschooling, so I will be more prepared
next fall?
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Joyce Fetteroll
On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:46 PM, beckiecarsey wrote:
online schooling program but say you're stuck with classes he would
rather not do.
So is he out of the school or not?
Why do you want "advanced books" to prevent boredom? I can think of
lots better cures for boredom than "advanced books".
Why do you need to wait until the fall to unschool?
There's the Teenage Liberation Handbook but I wouldn't read it as a
preparation for next fall because I think it can be a bit misleading
since it still breaks learning into subjects as I recall. To
"prepare" I'd just start living life instead of doing school.
What are his interests? What does he enjoy doing? Don't limit
yourself to academics. To unschool you need to see learning as
holistic rather than as discrete subjects.
Joyce
> I finally got things together, and took my oldest son out of theI'm not sure what your question is. You say you took him out of the
> "online schooling" program. I must admit,I went into it, not knowing
> who to contact or how to do the application.This fall, I will know
> better, than to let myself get backed into a corner.I went by their
> requirements, and designed his curriculum; He is in 11th grade, and
> has passed almost all of the courses on their list.So now we are stuck
> with classes he would rather not do.I am trying to find advanced books
> online, so he will not get bored.Can anyone advise me of a book to
> read on the ins and outs of unschooling, so I will be more prepared
> next fall?
online schooling program but say you're stuck with classes he would
rather not do.
So is he out of the school or not?
Why do you want "advanced books" to prevent boredom? I can think of
lots better cures for boredom than "advanced books".
Why do you need to wait until the fall to unschool?
There's the Teenage Liberation Handbook but I wouldn't read it as a
preparation for next fall because I think it can be a bit misleading
since it still breaks learning into subjects as I recall. To
"prepare" I'd just start living life instead of doing school.
What are his interests? What does he enjoy doing? Don't limit
yourself to academics. To unschool you need to see learning as
holistic rather than as discrete subjects.
Joyce
beckiecarsey
--- In [email protected], Joyce Fetteroll
<jfetteroll@...> wrote:
homeschool..but he wants to do the unschooling.I have to read more
because if you don't know what you're in for in this county.. you end
up like I did. I was given papers to sign, and their list of required
classes.I have to teach him the classes on their list.Even though I
gave them a copy of his transcripts.The accepted paper I received,
ended with saying that if he doesn't have their required hours of 900
for the year, plus learning the required classes; I can be proceeded
against. So as you can see, our county is very against parents who
take their kids out of the public schools. I tried to explain to the
people at the county office,that I wanted to do unschooling..they told
me they had no idea what I was talking about, and could not help me,
except with papers for traditional homeschooling, and their required
class list.
The result is a kid who still is not interested in his
schooling,because he is not learning what he wants to.
Beckie
<jfetteroll@...> wrote:
>Well, honestly, our county frowns upon unschoolers.. I am trying to
>
> On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:46 PM, beckiecarsey wrote:
>
> > I finally got things together, and took my oldest son out of the
> > "online schooling" program. I must admit,I went into it, not knowing
> > who to contact or how to do the application.This fall, I will know
> > better, than to let myself get backed into a corner.I went by their
> > requirements, and designed his curriculum; He is in 11th grade, and
> > has passed almost all of the courses on their list.So now we are stuck
> > with classes he would rather not do.I am trying to find advanced books
> > online, so he will not get bored.Can anyone advise me of a book to
> > read on the ins and outs of unschooling, so I will be more prepared
> > next fall?
>
> I'm not sure what your question is. You say you took him out of the
> online schooling program but say you're stuck with classes he would
> rather not do.
>
> So is he out of the school or not?
>
> Why do you want "advanced books" to prevent boredom? I can think of
> lots better cures for boredom than "advanced books".
>
> Why do you need to wait until the fall to unschool?
>
> There's the Teenage Liberation Handbook but I wouldn't read it as a
> preparation for next fall because I think it can be a bit misleading
> since it still breaks learning into subjects as I recall. To
> "prepare" I'd just start living life instead of doing school.
>
> What are his interests? What does he enjoy doing? Don't limit
> yourself to academics. To unschool you need to see learning as
> holistic rather than as discrete subjects.
>
> Joyce
>
homeschool..but he wants to do the unschooling.I have to read more
because if you don't know what you're in for in this county.. you end
up like I did. I was given papers to sign, and their list of required
classes.I have to teach him the classes on their list.Even though I
gave them a copy of his transcripts.The accepted paper I received,
ended with saying that if he doesn't have their required hours of 900
for the year, plus learning the required classes; I can be proceeded
against. So as you can see, our county is very against parents who
take their kids out of the public schools. I tried to explain to the
people at the county office,that I wanted to do unschooling..they told
me they had no idea what I was talking about, and could not help me,
except with papers for traditional homeschooling, and their required
class list.
The result is a kid who still is not interested in his
schooling,because he is not learning what he wants to.
Beckie