Julie

My daughter won't be 5 till March of next year, but for xmas hubby and I
would like to get her set up with her own computer, laptop, or tablet. My
son will be turning 3, so he will be able to use a computer mouse, so I'd
like to have a set up where they both can play on the computer at the same
time without fighting. Right now we only have one computer, but I have an
Ipad, and hubby has two work tablets and a laptop.



Recommendations for if we should buy a computer or a laptop or a tablet?
Right now our current house is small, but we will be moving into a bigger
space in about 2.5 years (or as soon as I am up to a move after my third
baby comes). In our newer space, we will have a large shared office, so we
would be able to handle multiple computers with large screens, etc. My hubby
is thinking we should buy my daughter an actual computer, but I'm wondering
if that won't be too limiting. My daughter wants a LeapPad, but I think that
will be too limiting.



I guess I am just curious what people have found to work for getting their
kids set-up with computers. I want to be preventative as much as possible
here.



Julie



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Sandra Dodd

-=-My daughter wants a LeapPad, but I think that
will be too limiting.-=-

There are many advantages to buying her what she wants.
Maybe next year you could get her an iPad or something. I read recently that there will be unbreakable screens in some upcoming version.

Sandra




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Meredith

"Julie" <matisse22@...> wrote:
>My daughter wants a LeapPad, but I think that
> will be too limiting.

Has she played with other kids' Leap Pads? We got one after my daughter played with a friend's and she loved it for a couple years. They have some nice advantages in that they're designed with little kids in mind - little people who aren't always gentle or squeaky clean ;)

Just because she has a Leap Pad, that doesn't bar her from ever using other computers, too. Get a couple games for your regular computer. Maybe look into a used console system (Playstation, Wii...those kinds of things) and some games for little kids - there will be more two-player options available, too.

It definitely helps to think about What people are going to be doing and then see which devices will support that activity. If it's read-aloud sorts of things, a Leap Pad is fantastic. If it's games you'd do better with a system especially designed for games. If you have a kid who likes to write or draw on-screen, then a designated computer may be your best bet. But any of those have limitations. If nothing else, kids grow and their interests change.

If you're really unsure or in a money crunch, buy used and upgrade later.

---Meredith

usuheinerfam

In my experience, a desktop computer at that age is very limiting. We had desktop computers for our girls, but they were bouncing all over the place. Then we got them Leapster Explorers and they were in heaven. LeapPads may feel limiting to you, but there are lots of games on them, they're portable, she can curl up away from little brother, or by you, or in the car ... they're smaller, not really breakable. Our girls really enjoyed theirs.

Our eight year old has passed hers down to her little brother and almost exclusively uses her laptop now but our 5 year old (almost 6) uses her Leapster still when we travel - she uses her laptop at home more. Laptops are bigger and more clunky for little ones to handle unless you get her a netbook type laptop, but she won't be able to watch dvds on that.

I find it funny that I can contribute to a thread like this since when my oldest was born I was not going to allow electronics. What a difference.

Julie

Thanks everyone! I spent all day yesterday thinking about this and I think
I'm going to propose to hubby that we get my almost 5 year old a leappad,
and my almost 3 year old something similar. I then think we should buy a
laptop, for computer games.



My daughter loves playing games on my computer, and she does so every
morning, and once my son is able to work a mouse, I have no doubt he will
want to join in on the fun "all by himself." So I really think we need a
regular old computer of some sort, and I'm liking the idea of a laptop we
can take on vacations with us, etc.



We have a PlayStation (bought it to stream Netflix a few years ago), so we
have a good gaming system already in place, I just need to solve the problem
of both kids wanting to play computer games in the morning at the same time,
with only one computer. And while I let them play on my Ipad, they prefer
the computer.



This has been helpful! I thought we'd just buy one thing, but after reading
everyone suggestions, I think I will try to find the money to give them
multiple options --especially since my husband and I enjoy our multiple
options ;-)



Julie



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Stacia Reichelt

Our daughter is 1, but is already getting to be pretty tech-savvy, so we're
getting her a Nabi 2 Tablet. If you search for it on the Best Buy website,
there's a video that shows all of the features.


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Andrea Q

Check the settings on your mouse. On most computers, it is possible to give your son his own login/account on your computer and then set the mouse so it only has one button (disable right click and scrolling). That way, he can practice with the mouse right away.



--- In [email protected], "Julie" <matisse22@...> wrote:

once my son is able to work a mouse, I have no doubt he will
> want to join in on the fun "all by himself."

Bernadette Lynn

On 5 August 2012 09:19, usuheinerfam <usuheinerfam@...> wrote:

> Our eight year old has passed hers down to her little brother and almost
> exclusively uses her laptop now but our 5 year old (almost 6) uses her
> Leapster still when we travel - she uses her laptop at home more. Laptops
> are bigger and more clunky for little ones to handle unless you get her a
> netbook type laptop, but she won't be able to watch dvds on that.
>
===========


We bought each of our four children a netbook when our youngest was only
just 3; they still had use of my laptop and a desktop and we also got a
separate DVD drive which they could all use.

Emily (now 6) still mostly uses her netbook to watch iPlayer and play games
and occasionally watch DVDs - she's used it almost every day for three and
a half years so it was definitely worth getting. The older three use their
netbooks sometimes but prefer more powerful computers now with larger
screens. You can't play Minecraft on a Netbook!

Bernadette.


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s

we bought our 7 year old a kurio 7 which is android based. it was his
request to buy a tablet for his birthday so he paid for half.

we really like the kurio as it comes with a parental area so you can
determine setting, wifi access, etc. we put accounts for each of our
kids on it so baby girl (2) doesn't have the same things as eldest (7).
it has a bumper that comes with it.

what we loved the most was it comes preloaded with educational content,
games, books, and a wifi accessible cartoon section that made it so
easy, otherwise we would have had to search and find all the apps, and
honestly I wouldn't have picked all that is on there, but my kids love
some of the ones I wouldn't have picked. =)

they have a good deal to buy them at toys-r-us.

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=13044616

shelley

lvhomeschool

We have four children, ages 10, 8, 5, and 3. Each of them has their own kindle fire. The older three all have Nintendo ds's. And the two younger ones have the older girls passed down leapsters that they like to play in the car. And we have an older IPhone that they take turns using. We also got the younger two innotabs which is like a leap pad but after them navigating on the iPhone and bigger sisters Fire's before they had their own, the innotabs didn't keep their interest very long, which is why they got their own Fires. My 3 year old loves using hers to watch Katy Perry on You tube and to watch Netflix. : ). My 5 year old loves all the game apps and Netflix.

Melissa

Julie

I asked my daughter if she wanted her own pad, like my Ipad. She told me
"NO," she wants a leappad because it has fairies and mickey mouse, etc. She
wants the Disney. I think she will be disappointed with it after a short
while, since she plays on my Ipad almost every day.



Julie



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of lvhomeschool
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: computer for almost 5 year old





We have four children, ages 10, 8, 5, and 3. Each of them has their own
kindle fire. The older three all have Nintendo ds's. And the two younger
ones have the older girls passed down leapsters that they like to play in
the car. And we have an older IPhone that they take turns using. We also got
the younger two innotabs which is like a leap pad but after them navigating
on the iPhone and bigger sisters Fire's before they had their own, the
innotabs didn't keep their interest very long, which is why they got their
own Fires. My 3 year old loves using hers to watch Katy Perry on You tube
and to watch Netflix. : ). My 5 year old loves all the game apps and
Netflix.

Melissa





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Joyce Fetteroll

On Aug 11, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Julie wrote:

> I think she will be disappointed with it after a short
> while, since she plays on my Ipad almost every day.


See if you can borrow one. Or buy a used one on Amazon. If she doesn't like it, sell it on Amazon.

The process isn't just about getting a pad for learning but learning to make decisions. Not your decision. Not "the right" decision. But learning how to decide.

You can help her explore both, but if you have an agenda to convince her she's wrong, she'll feel it.

Joyce

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Julie

I agree that she needs to make the decision, and I told her to put it on her list to Santa if it's something she really wants.

I do want to buy something else, though, because I want both kids to have actual computers, though a kindle might work for simple games for my youngest.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 11, 2012, at 8:17 AM, Joyce Fetteroll <jfetteroll@...> wrote:

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> On Aug 11, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Julie wrote:
>
> > I think she will be disappointed with it after a short
> > while, since she plays on my Ipad almost every day.
>
> See if you can borrow one. Or buy a used one on Amazon. If she doesn't like it, sell it on Amazon.
>
> The process isn't just about getting a pad for learning but learning to make decisions. Not your decision. Not "the right" decision. But learning how to decide.
>
> You can help her explore both, but if you have an agenda to convince her she's wrong, she'll feel it.
>
> Joyce
>
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>


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Sandra Dodd

-=-I agree that she needs to make the decision, and I told her to put it on her list to Santa if it's something she really wants.-=-

I hope you didn't say it in such a way that she knows you wouldn't be willing to get it for her, so she's going to need to ask Santa.

-=-I do want to buy something else, though, because I want both kids to have actual computers, though a kindle might work for simple games for my youngest.-=-

Don't do it as Christmas gifts, then.

Get her what she wants without undermining or sabotaging her joy. After a while (weeks, months, a year) then get her a Kindle or iPad or something (maybe the new Google tablet) but don't wait for a birthday or Christmas. Do it as an educational expense, sometime when she seems to need something new and exciting.

My mom used to buy us school supplies for Christmas gifts. I liked those things, and was glad to have them, but I wish she had bought them when we needed them, middle of any old week, instead of it being "a Christmas thing."

Not all unschooling parents can afford a computer for each child, nor even a Leap Pad. Those who can, though, should (in my opinion) not hold out. :-)

Maybe you should buy her the Leap Pad now, and then see in December whether she might be ready for a tablet computer.

Sandra

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BRIAN POLIKOWSKY

My daughter Gigi loves to play Pixie Hallow on the laptop and
the other fairy games is Winx Club. 
Your daughter may like that.|Pixie Hallow you create your character and play with other people.
Gigi plays with her best friend and talks on the phone while they do it. 
She was just on today but left with dad to go see an Angus beef cow farm ( we are dairy farmers) where the guy's house is connected to his show heifers house so he has windows from inside his house that he can watch his heifers. That made Gigi really really interested in having a house-barn!

 
Alex Polikowsky
 
 
 


________________________________
From: Julie <matisse22@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:03 AM
Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] Re: computer for almost 5 year old


 
I asked my daughter if she wanted her own pad, like my Ipad. She told me
"NO," she wants a leappad because it has fairies and mickey mouse, etc. She
wants the Disney. I think she will be disappointed with it after a short
while, since she plays on my Ipad almost every day.

Julie

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of lvhomeschool
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: computer for almost 5 year old

We have four children, ages 10, 8, 5, and 3. Each of them has their own
kindle fire. The older three all have Nintendo ds's. And the two younger
ones have the older girls passed down leapsters that they like to play in
the car. And we have an older IPhone that they take turns using. We also got
the younger two innotabs which is like a leap pad but after them navigating
on the iPhone and bigger sisters Fire's before they had their own, the
innotabs didn't keep their interest very long, which is why they got their
own Fires. My 3 year old loves using hers to watch Katy Perry on You tube
and to watch Netflix. : ). My 5 year old loves all the game apps and
Netflix.

Melissa

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Julie

Sandra wrote:



<<I hope you didn't say it in such a way that she knows you wouldn't be
willing to get it for her, so she's going to need to ask Santa.>>>

No, I didn't. I was very supportive of the idea. In fact, I was surprised
when she asked, and my response was something like "that might be a great
idea for a gift from Santa." It was only later when I was alone that I
started thinking about long term practicality of a Leap Pad.

<<Don't do it as Christmas gifts, then.>>

No, any "computer" we buy will be for their learning, not gifts from Santa.


<<Not all unschooling parents can afford a computer for each child, nor even
a Leap Pad. Those who can, though, should (in my opinion) not hold out. :-)
>>>

You are totally right, and I have no desire to hold out. We can always come
up with the money, and I don't think I would be as willing to unschool if I
didn't know I had a large budget to work with. I love being able to get
memberships to museums and arboretums and things without it impacted my
budget. My kids have no idea these regular activities cost big bucks, and I
get teary eyed sometimes when we can invite friends along for free. We are
very fortunate, and my hubby works very hard to give us more than enough.

<<Maybe you should buy her the Leap Pad now, and then see in December
whether she might be ready for a tablet computer.>>

That might be a good idea. My daughter was going through a phrase, however,
where she just wanted me to buy her everything under the sun. I've been
trying to curb this back, some, getting her to use her money for certain
things (gum balls out of those machines at the grocery store)..I'd like
personalized big items she is requesting to be holiday or bday presents,
while more general things (a tablet or computer), to be regular educational
expenses.

Julie








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BRIAN POLIKOWSKY

 

I do want to buy something else, though, because I want both kids to have actual computers, though a kindle might work for simple games for my youngest.


-=-=-=-=-=-

Keep in mind you can buy really good desktop computers for very very little on craigslist!!!
I have seen awesome ones for around $100!!!

I am always looking because we plan to build a gaming one , my son and I.

But for your regular gaming  there very cheap options. You could get her a leap pad and a cheap computer!

Oh and the other day there was an awesome laptop for $300 at Office Depot sale that I would have taken if I could for my daughter. 
It was better than the one I am typing from! ( not a netbook) a real laptop!


Alex Polikowsky 

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Sandra Dodd

-=- the guy's house is connected to his show heifers house so he has windows from inside his house that he can watch his heifers. That made Gigi really really interested in having a house-barn!-=-

Centuries ago, some northwestern Europeans (maybe others, too, but that's what I've paid attention to) had livestock below and people above. It helped with heat, in really cold places. It probably didn't help with smell. But GLASS! If only they'd had big sheets of glass. :-)

It wouldn't have had the same house-warming and livestock-warming effect, though, as having them stacked up. :-)

Sandra

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BRIAN POLIKOWSKY

Oh gosh Sandra. I am going to tell Gigi that!. We had , two winter ago, three baby calves in our basement. It was fun having them there!!! They bellowed in the morning and evening waiting for their milk and that was so cute! 

The barn in the winter is a lot warmer because the cows are in. They run hot those girls. We had barn cats that used to sleep on top of cows to keep warm. Dairy cows love temperatures between 30 and 40 degrees Fahrenheit.

 
Alex Polikowsky

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Pam Sorooshian

My husband grew up in very small town in Iran - they had a huge house (20
rooms, maybe) all in a big square with a courtyard in the middle - with a
little creek that ran under the house, up in the courtyard and back under
the house. They had a lot of fruit trees in the courtyard. Some rooms of
the house were for animals in the wintertime. The humans only used a couple
of rooms in the winter - kitchen and another big room which they heated.

-pam

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:

> -=- the guy's house is connected to his show heifers house so he has
> windows from inside his house that he can watch his heifers. That made Gigi
> really really interested in having a house-barn!-=-


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Stephanie Selby

Our girls each have macminis, I like it because the box is small, and I can
keep it off of an area that may get spilled & they are virus-free. We got
the mini's for about $250 used on ebay. We have gone through keyboards
faster than adults do, mice seem to last longer.

We travel a LOT, so we need to have something for the car. I really like
the look of that nabi 2, but we have leappads (4 and 6 years old) they
really love them. Though we have been though 2 for one of our girls, for
some reason one just stopped working so leapfrog replaced it, and she chews
on things so the stylus broke on the other, and when it did she still used
it on the screen (metal was showing) and scratched the screen so it no
longer works correctly. I am going to try to replace the screen with the
old one. But the games seem to be stimulating enough, the only aspects I
really don't like is that it advertises to the kids so then they want more
games, and the computer interface for uploading their work is slow, and the
batteries aren't rechargable (yes I should buy rechargable batteries).

-Steph

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Pam Sorooshian <pamsoroosh@...>wrote:

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>
>
> My husband grew up in very small town in Iran - they had a huge house (20
> rooms, maybe) all in a big square with a courtyard in the middle - with a
> little creek that ran under the house, up in the courtyard and back under
> the house. They had a lot of fruit trees in the courtyard. Some rooms of
> the house were for animals in the wintertime. The humans only used a couple
> of rooms in the winter - kitchen and another big room which they heated.
>
> -pam
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...>
> wrote:
>
> > -=- the guy's house is connected to his show heifers house so he has
> > windows from inside his house that he can watch his heifers. That made
> Gigi
> > really really interested in having a house-barn!-=-
>
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