Sandra Dodd

-=-My 6-year-old can write the letters of the alphabet, 3-letter-
words, and
"I love you". She dictates stories and I type them for her. When she
tries to write on her own she gets frustrated because she can not spell
the words. What would you guys suggest?-=-

Holly had a little spelling toy from Radio Shack. You start typing in
the word and it guesses, or you type it in however and it gives you
suggestions for better spellings.

That was a long time ago, though. There are computer programs and
parts of programs that will do that.

Or you could suggest something else for her to do than write. Or you
could let it be kid-spelling.

Sandra

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Lyla Wolfenstein

===========You start typing in
the word and it guesses, or you type it in however and it gives you
suggestions for better spellings.

That was a long time ago, though. There are computer programs and
parts of programs that will do that.
==============================

that was probably a Franklin Speller?

============Or you could suggest something else for her to do than write. Or you
could let it be kid-spelling.
=====

yes, is she frustrated with the spelling or are you? i always loved reading my kids' creative spelling...but now that my son is a pretty good speller, he wants everything spelled correctly so asks me even if he's pretty sure.

lyla

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NCMama

I used to write out the stories my son would tell, and he'd copy what I'd written. That was, of course, because he wanted to! I never asked him to do that. Before he stared writing, I just wrote everything down for him as he dictated it, and that was enough.

He's asked me to spell things as he's writing, and if he didn't want me to spell as he wrote, either I would write that one word for him in his comic (or whatever he was working on), or I'd write in on a separate piece of paper, and he'd copy it.

Caren

Cara Barlow

*** When she tries to write on her own she gets frustrated because she can
not spell the words. What would you guys suggest?***

I have two kids that like to write, and I remember that stage with my
younger daughter who's now almost 12.

If I was nearby, she'd ask and I'd spell the word for her. If I was in the
other room I'd write it down on a piece of paper. Sometimes we still do this
<g>.

Have you shown her how to use spell check or how to use Google to spell
check words?

I also never "corrected" her spelling unless she asked or I thought it was
something that might embarrass her. This is still true.

Best wishes, Cara


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Sandra Dodd

-=-that was probably a Franklin Speller?-=-

I don't remember the name of it anymore, but it wasn't that. It was a
child's version, with hangman and another game or two, and it would
write the word out in cursive, gradually, too, if you left it sitting
on one word for a bit.

Sandra

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Jenny Cyphers

***When she
tries to write on her own she gets frustrated because she can not spell
the words. What would you guys suggest?***

Spell it for her? Write it down so that she can copy it? Use the computer and spell check? Those were the ideas that immediately come to mind.





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BRIAN POLIKOWSKY

<<<My 6-year-old can write the letters of the alphabet, 3-letter-words, and
"I love you". She dictates stories and I type them for her. When she
tries to write on her own she gets frustrated because she can not spell
the words. What would you guys suggest?>>

When my son could not spell something he would call out:" How do you spell x?" and we would say it out loud the letters.
He rarelly asks now. He is 7 and a terrific speller.  Would that work for your daughter?
Sometimes my son would be in another room and ask very loud. We repeated as many times as he needed or if he was messaging someone on a game. Sometimes I would sit with him. In the begining  I would many times type it for him too.


 
Alex Polikowsky

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Rebecca M.

--- Amy wrote:
> **My 6-year-old can write the letters of the alphabet, 3-letter-words, and
> "I love you". She dictates stories and I type them for her. When she
> tries to write on her own she gets frustrated because she can not spell
> the words. What would you guys suggest?**

Is she reading comfortably? I know that for my son, who was a spontaneous early & fluent non-phonetic reader (before he was 5), reading independently makes spelling more frustrating as his expectations for himself have been really high. He wants to write like the books he can read. Even though he may not know the correct spelling for a word, he knows when it's wrong.

When he gets frustrated writing on his own, I have always assured him that spelling will come as he figures out the patterns, etc. and although it's frustrating, it's nothing to worry about... he'll figure it out, I'm 100% sure of it. In the meantime, he can always ask me if he's not sure about a word and if it's not perfect, who cares -- his "readers" (dad, me, grandparents) can figure it out. If he chooses to fix it, he can (and I'm always happy to help out). I've also told him I'm happy to write down anything he'd like me to as scribing is an excellent way to ease the internal pressure. Writing is also frustrating for kids because there's no way their fine motor skills can get down their ideas as fast as they can think them... another good reason to scribe for as long as they want it.

- Rebecca

Pam Sorooshian

On 4/29/2010 11:28 AM, Sandra Dodd wrote:
> Or you could suggest something else for her to do than write. Or you
> could let it be kid-spelling.

Mine wrote anyway - spelling however they could. They didn't like not
being able to spell, but I really encouraged them not to worry about it.
I remember telling Roya she could just underline the words she wasn't
sure about and I'd go back later and spell them for her if she wanted.
That let her speed up so she could enjoy writing.




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lalow66

My older two 8 and 7 dont write much... but they type quite a bit when they chat on roblox. my 7 year old can read pretty well and when he types/writes likes to spell things correctly, so he limits what he says to what he can spell. or he asks how to spell it, he remembers once he has spelled it a few times. My 8 year old reads a little and spells even less but he likes to chat on Roblox so so just types it how he thinks it sounds... it often looks like (lick for like or wot for want). If I am around (which i try to be) he will ask me to help. I sometimes think the people on the other side must think it is strange...one minute his sentences look like " do yu wot to go to mi plas" and one second later he says " would you like to be my friend". but it works. I type for him when he asks, i tell him spellings and i write things down for him. I have lately made a list of common words next to the computer but so far he hasnt found it convenient to use it... says people understand him so it isnt necessary.. i said ok.

Off topic a little.. the other day his soccer coach told him he was to go in and play rt forward. James ran around lost out there for a few minutes and later I questioned him about looking so lost. He said he still cant get right and left. I said just remember your right hand is the one that you hold a pencil in. "mom, I rarely write with a pencil and I can never tell which hand looks like an L!"

Deb Lewis

*** He said he still cant get right and left. ***

My sister is fifty five and she marks her right shoe so she can tell left from right. She says, in the moment of needing to know left from right she can't remember which hand she uses to write with so it's easier for her to mark a shoe. She's otherwise normal. (pretty much)

So, maybe one different colored shoelace or sock would help your son. ( Dylan wouldn't have liked that. He had a pretty strong need for things to be the same.)

Tattoo?<g>

Deb Lewis

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Gwen Montoya

When I was little I marked the top of one of my shoes with a dot. I
tried writing "L" & "R" on the bottom of my shoes, but it kept wearing
off.

When I was in high school & college & older, I wore a ring or watch on
my right hand for years to help me tell left from right.

I still have to think about it for a second (sometimes).

Gwen


On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:30 AM, "Deb Lewis" <d.lewis@...> wrote:

> *** He said he still cant get right and left. ***
>
> My sister is fifty five and she marks her right shoe so she can tell
> left from right. She says, in the moment of needing to know left
> from right she can't remember which hand she uses to write with so
> it's easier for her to mark a shoe. She's otherwise normal. (pretty
> much)
>
> So, maybe one different colored shoelace or sock would help your
> son. ( Dylan wouldn't have liked that. He had a pretty strong need
> for things to be the same.)
>
> Tattoo?<g>
>
> Deb Lewis
>
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>
>


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Schuyler

My left-right confusion makes it harder in the dance group I've joined. I put L and R on the appropriate shoes which helps, but everyone else seems fairly supportive of my disability, and when I look confused will nudge me in the right or left direction. Linnaea wrote L and R on her shoes in a supportive gesture. I've been shown lots of tricks, like the L of the left hand and all of that, but it still takes seconds of orientation. What used to work was my tar stains on the fingers of my right hand, but I quit smoking years ago, so that's all gone now.

Schuyler





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From: Gwen Montoya <lifeisjustthis@...>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 30 April, 2010 16:22:43
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Writing question

When I was little I marked the top of one of my shoes with a dot. I
tried writing "L" & "R" on the bottom of my shoes, but it kept wearing
off.

When I was in high school & college & older, I wore a ring or watch on
my right hand for years to help me tell left from right.

I still have to think about it for a second (sometimes).

Gwen

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Sandra Dodd

-=-I said just remember your right hand is the one that you hold a
pencil in. "mom, I rarely write with a pencil and I can never tell
which hand looks like an L!"-=-

When I was a kid I knew it by the Pledge of Allegiance. The confusion
was that we would put our right hands over our hearts (on the left)
and so what I had to do for many years was twitch my right hand and
then I knew "right." So I would think "pledge of allegiance,"
slightly flex the hand I should put on my heart, and then I knew which
direction.

Even into adulthood in the midst of a very distracting situation where
different parts of my brain were already in use, I could find right or
left by tensing/flexing my right hand.

By the time I was 30, I had finally learned it. Or maybe I had
learned to avoid situations so distracting I didn't know my left from
my right. :-)

My kids had no pledge of allegiance and no handwriting practice, so I
don't know how they learned it. I should ask.

Sandra

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Rebecca M.

Gwen wrote:
> **I still have to think about it for a second (sometimes).**

I sometimes have to think about it, too. I can usually do this by a quick look at my hands -- not because I wear a watch or a ring, but because I seem to have it figured out visually with respect to my hands (probably due to "handedness"). It's almost like it's a quick process of elimination.

I seem to come by the L/R confusion naturally. When I was a kid (and a passenger in the backseat of the car), my mom would navigate and my dad would drive. I can still hear her say, "Turn left, honey. No, the other left."

- Rebecca

Jenny Cyphers

***I said just remember your right hand is the one that you hold a pencil in. "mom, I rarely write with a pencil and I can never tell which hand looks like an L!"***

What hand does he eat with? I always remembered which hand was which because I sucked my thumb, so I knew that my left was the thumb sucking hand.





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Rinelle

I've always struggled with which is my left and which is my right hand. Made learning to drive really difficult, and my uncle who was teaching me just couldn't understand that I didn't know which was which. From my experience, there are two types of ways of knowing, those of us who use a reminded (write with your right hand), and those who just 'know'. I often wonder if the reminder actually gets in the way of an inate understanding of which is which?

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Bernadette Lynn

On 30 April 2010 14:28, lalow66 <lalow@...> wrote:

>
>
> Off topic a little.. the other day his soccer coach told him he was to go
> in and play rt forward. James ran around lost out there for a few minutes
> and later I questioned him about looking so lost. He said he still cant get
> right and left. I said just remember your right hand is the one that you
> hold a pencil in. "mom, I rarely write with a pencil and I can never tell
> which hand looks like an L!"
>
>

For a little while my second daughter liked me to write L and R on her feet
with ballpoint and
I noticed a while ago that she'd written 'left' and 'right' on her hands,
when she was trying to do something at gym and it was important to know.

Schuyler, we frequently had problems in our Morris side explaining which way
to turn and pass in a Hey; one man used to tie ribbons round his right wrist
and dance round chanting "ribbons at the top, the other at the bottom". I
always found it easier to think in terms of 'this way' and 'that way' and
leave the words Left and Right out of it altogether.


Bernadette.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/U15459


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