Rough week!
Sandra Dodd
Some dork posted (anonymously) something tacky saying that Holly
doesn't know how to read.
http://sandradodd.blogspot.com/2009/01/miss-holly-dodds-first-glasses.html
Also there have been e-mails and phone calls and interviews and lots
of online discussion because of the news reports this week on
unschooling.
That's okay, but on the weekend someone wanted me to change one of my
pages and the archives of another list because of something she wrote
five years ago.
That's okay, but my half brother called twice on Sunday. He's in his
late 30's and was born when I was 19, to my drunken mother and one of
her drunken friends from the bar. After he saw that the baby was
white, he married her. There was another friend of hers willing to
marry her if the baby wasn't quite so white. That's been a long
time, there's fetal alcohol syndrome, there was abuse, I knew, but I
learned Sunday that some of it was on my watch, by an older child (10
to his 4) and I didn't know and another adult DID know and said "Don't
tell Sandra." Thirty five years was long time for me not to have
known that. (Add it to the "don't tattle" pile.) And he has been
sober a year. Usually people get congratulated for that. I called my
sister to see if it was true (she visited him in November), because I
don't trust him.
That was very sad altogether and I feel bad, but I decided when I was
35 and Kirby was two that I had had enough of alcoholic disruption in
my life and I was done. I had rescued and enabled and avoided and
aided and abetted.
Then there were the problems with and around the Always Learning
list. (Thank you, Heather, for coming back to the list.)
There's general crap and nonsense around on the internet just to keep
the irritation at simmer (another page of mine swiped whole, with some
other links added; more minor plagiarism here and there).
And now some dork posted an insult to Holly. But I left it, and I'm
not sure why or whether I should have. It seems better to correct
the misconception and call a dork a dork. Still, I'm kinda tired,
and I have a LONG list of questions to answer for someone from Warner
Brothers who interviewed me this afternoon. It's as long as an
article and it's been a long day.
Sandra
doesn't know how to read.
http://sandradodd.blogspot.com/2009/01/miss-holly-dodds-first-glasses.html
Also there have been e-mails and phone calls and interviews and lots
of online discussion because of the news reports this week on
unschooling.
That's okay, but on the weekend someone wanted me to change one of my
pages and the archives of another list because of something she wrote
five years ago.
That's okay, but my half brother called twice on Sunday. He's in his
late 30's and was born when I was 19, to my drunken mother and one of
her drunken friends from the bar. After he saw that the baby was
white, he married her. There was another friend of hers willing to
marry her if the baby wasn't quite so white. That's been a long
time, there's fetal alcohol syndrome, there was abuse, I knew, but I
learned Sunday that some of it was on my watch, by an older child (10
to his 4) and I didn't know and another adult DID know and said "Don't
tell Sandra." Thirty five years was long time for me not to have
known that. (Add it to the "don't tattle" pile.) And he has been
sober a year. Usually people get congratulated for that. I called my
sister to see if it was true (she visited him in November), because I
don't trust him.
That was very sad altogether and I feel bad, but I decided when I was
35 and Kirby was two that I had had enough of alcoholic disruption in
my life and I was done. I had rescued and enabled and avoided and
aided and abetted.
Then there were the problems with and around the Always Learning
list. (Thank you, Heather, for coming back to the list.)
There's general crap and nonsense around on the internet just to keep
the irritation at simmer (another page of mine swiped whole, with some
other links added; more minor plagiarism here and there).
And now some dork posted an insult to Holly. But I left it, and I'm
not sure why or whether I should have. It seems better to correct
the misconception and call a dork a dork. Still, I'm kinda tired,
and I have a LONG list of questions to answer for someone from Warner
Brothers who interviewed me this afternoon. It's as long as an
article and it's been a long day.
Sandra
Jill Parmer
I'm really really sorry that you get these rough weeks or days or
moments, because I never want you to have them. You've made my life
better by sharing all that you have, and I'm really thankful for that.
Two or three or more times a week, I click a random page to sweeten
my life and improve my ability to unschool Addi and Luke. http://
sandradodd.com/random
When I got to visit with you and sit next to you while you worked, I
saw all the time and energy and thought that you've put into this
list and your site to make it available to people for a long time to
come. I saw the struggle you went through when people were grouching
at your honesty and forthrightness and helpfulness. I wanted to
shake a few of them.
Ten years ago when I started reading this Sandra Dodd person on the
old unschooling.com message board, I was thrilled, and it felt like a
breath of fresh air, these ideas you were writing about and your
thoughts. I still get giddy about it.
Last week, Addi sort of had this epiphany that she was really really
lucky to have me as a mom. I mean she really got it that she is
being parented differently than most of the people she knows. We
chatted about what you and others write about here and how that has
really helped me be a better, thoughtful mom. She notices how
parents treat their kids, and admires you and Pam S, and others.
I saw some pictures of Luke on the SUSS (Sandra's Unschooling
Symposium in Santa Fe (Jan 2010)) blog, and he looks really good, and
happy with Roya, and Kirby, and had so much fun that day. Luke
really enjoyed Holly and listening to the conversations we had when
you were here.
Thank you so much for all your work and perseverance , and I'm really
sorry that your work and willingness to share so much has brought any
frustration to you at all.
~Jill (Addi 15, Luke 11)
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moments, because I never want you to have them. You've made my life
better by sharing all that you have, and I'm really thankful for that.
Two or three or more times a week, I click a random page to sweeten
my life and improve my ability to unschool Addi and Luke. http://
sandradodd.com/random
When I got to visit with you and sit next to you while you worked, I
saw all the time and energy and thought that you've put into this
list and your site to make it available to people for a long time to
come. I saw the struggle you went through when people were grouching
at your honesty and forthrightness and helpfulness. I wanted to
shake a few of them.
Ten years ago when I started reading this Sandra Dodd person on the
old unschooling.com message board, I was thrilled, and it felt like a
breath of fresh air, these ideas you were writing about and your
thoughts. I still get giddy about it.
Last week, Addi sort of had this epiphany that she was really really
lucky to have me as a mom. I mean she really got it that she is
being parented differently than most of the people she knows. We
chatted about what you and others write about here and how that has
really helped me be a better, thoughtful mom. She notices how
parents treat their kids, and admires you and Pam S, and others.
I saw some pictures of Luke on the SUSS (Sandra's Unschooling
Symposium in Santa Fe (Jan 2010)) blog, and he looks really good, and
happy with Roya, and Kirby, and had so much fun that day. Luke
really enjoyed Holly and listening to the conversations we had when
you were here.
Thank you so much for all your work and perseverance , and I'm really
sorry that your work and willingness to share so much has brought any
frustration to you at all.
~Jill (Addi 15, Luke 11)
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Sandra Dodd
Thanks, Jill.
The photos of Luke and other people are here (and maybe at links from
there, I hope):
http://santafeunschoolingsymposium.blogspot.com/
That was a really great gathering. I've been thinking of doing some
similar kinds of things at my house and some local motel, maybe. I
liked the condos but it was kind of expensive. Just thinking,
thusfar, but it's becoming a more frequent thought.
Sandra
The photos of Luke and other people are here (and maybe at links from
there, I hope):
http://santafeunschoolingsymposium.blogspot.com/
That was a really great gathering. I've been thinking of doing some
similar kinds of things at my house and some local motel, maybe. I
liked the condos but it was kind of expensive. Just thinking,
thusfar, but it's becoming a more frequent thought.
Sandra
wtexans
===I'm really really sorry that you get these rough weeks or days or moments, because I never want you to have them. You've made my life better by sharing all that you have, and I'm really thankful for that. Thank you so much for all your work and perseverance , and I'm really sorry that your work and willingness to share so much has brought any frustration to you at all.===
Jill worded that so nicely; I wholeheartedly second what she said.
Shame on someone for attacking Holly, and erroneously and anonymously at that. That's wrong and uncalled for.
Hopefully all the hoopla resulting from the GMA piece will settle down soon; surely some other controversial topic will come up quick enough that will draw the fire of folks who know nothing about the topic but feel compelled to declare it wrong.
You need a vacation, methinks!
Glenda
Jill worded that so nicely; I wholeheartedly second what she said.
Shame on someone for attacking Holly, and erroneously and anonymously at that. That's wrong and uncalled for.
Hopefully all the hoopla resulting from the GMA piece will settle down soon; surely some other controversial topic will come up quick enough that will draw the fire of folks who know nothing about the topic but feel compelled to declare it wrong.
You need a vacation, methinks!
Glenda
diana jenner
I've got a big long Holly book rattling around in my head... that girl is
amazing! Anyone willing to insult her has never had the honor to stand in
her light.
Just the other day, she sent an inspiring e-mail to me in response to a
Twitter I posted. She had more than 140 characters worth of wisdom to share
:)
Look at her, Sandra, you've done something amazing by her. No nutjob could
"luck out" this well, you got skillz: loving skillz <3 (I'd say healing
skills, though YOU're the one healing, your kids are whole)
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.wordpress.com
hannahsashes.blogspot.com
amazing! Anyone willing to insult her has never had the honor to stand in
her light.
Just the other day, she sent an inspiring e-mail to me in response to a
Twitter I posted. She had more than 140 characters worth of wisdom to share
:)
Look at her, Sandra, you've done something amazing by her. No nutjob could
"luck out" this well, you got skillz: loving skillz <3 (I'd say healing
skills, though YOU're the one healing, your kids are whole)
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.wordpress.com
hannahsashes.blogspot.com
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
>
>
> Some dork posted (anonymously) something tacky saying that Holly
> doesn't know how to read.
>
> http://sandradodd.blogspot.com/2009/01/miss-holly-dodds-first-glasses.html
>
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Sandra Dodd
-=-Look at her, Sandra, you've done something amazing by her. No
nutjob could
"luck out" this well, -=-
Some nutjobs do!
I'm awake at 3:00 in the morning because the wind was blowing really
hard. Now thunder and rain. And I wasn't sleeping so well anyway.
It was hot, and I was thinking. And trying not to think.
I wasn't worried about the effect on Holly. She knows she can read.
<g> I guess I'm worried about the lack of integrity of seeming to
hide, or that deleting it would make it seem that she couldn't read,
but I wanted to cover that over or... I don't know. I get tired of
people being stupid.
Sandra
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nutjob could
"luck out" this well, -=-
Some nutjobs do!
I'm awake at 3:00 in the morning because the wind was blowing really
hard. Now thunder and rain. And I wasn't sleeping so well anyway.
It was hot, and I was thinking. And trying not to think.
I wasn't worried about the effect on Holly. She knows she can read.
<g> I guess I'm worried about the lack of integrity of seeming to
hide, or that deleting it would make it seem that she couldn't read,
but I wanted to cover that over or... I don't know. I get tired of
people being stupid.
Sandra
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Sandra Dodd
Thanks, Diana.
This reminded me of a recent unschooling chat:
-=-Just the other day, she sent an inspiring e-mail to me in response
to a Twitter I posted. She had more than 140 characters worth of
wisdom to share :) -=-
I was saying in the chat that real writing is writing that has a
purpose.
I went and posted this at that old blog post:
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Sandra Dodd said...
I'm going to save the comment elsewhere, but was thinking about why
someone would need glasses without being able to read.
Friends of ours had a baby born too early. He wasn't blind, but he did
need glasses very young. I suppose he wore glasses for four years
before he could read, but they were just thrilled that he could walk
and see! He's fine now, but without those glasses he wouldn't have
been able to read facial expressions or play with toys very well. He
would have run into things and hurt himself.
Some people wear glasses to sew, and do woodcarving. Those aren't
reading.
Maybe the thought that the written word is the only thing worth seeing
ties in with book worship.
http://sandradodd.com/bookworship
Holly is strong and whole. Yesterday's "anonymous" has some issues (in
addition to cowardice).
April 22, 2010 3:50 AM
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This reminded me of a recent unschooling chat:
-=-Just the other day, she sent an inspiring e-mail to me in response
to a Twitter I posted. She had more than 140 characters worth of
wisdom to share :) -=-
I was saying in the chat that real writing is writing that has a
purpose.
I went and posted this at that old blog post:
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Sandra Dodd said...
I'm going to save the comment elsewhere, but was thinking about why
someone would need glasses without being able to read.
Friends of ours had a baby born too early. He wasn't blind, but he did
need glasses very young. I suppose he wore glasses for four years
before he could read, but they were just thrilled that he could walk
and see! He's fine now, but without those glasses he wouldn't have
been able to read facial expressions or play with toys very well. He
would have run into things and hurt himself.
Some people wear glasses to sew, and do woodcarving. Those aren't
reading.
Maybe the thought that the written word is the only thing worth seeing
ties in with book worship.
http://sandradodd.com/bookworship
Holly is strong and whole. Yesterday's "anonymous" has some issues (in
addition to cowardice).
April 22, 2010 3:50 AM
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Pam Sorooshian
Lots of people wear glasses for distance, not for reading. They take
them OFF for reading (or wear progressive lenses that have the
prescription part in the upper section so they're not looking through
that part when reading).
-pam
them OFF for reading (or wear progressive lenses that have the
prescription part in the upper section so they're not looking through
that part when reading).
-pam
Sandra Dodd
-=-Lots of people wear glasses for distance, not for reading. They take
them OFF for reading (or wear progressive lenses that have the
prescription part in the upper section so they're not looking through
that part when reading).-=-
Holly looked at the blog and laughed. She asked me to leave it there.
Here's her response:
Holly said...
I don't wear my glasses to read, I wear my glasses to drive and watch
movies.
If you're going to stalk, check your facts.
APRIL 22, 2010 9:47 AM
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them OFF for reading (or wear progressive lenses that have the
prescription part in the upper section so they're not looking through
that part when reading).-=-
Holly looked at the blog and laughed. She asked me to leave it there.
Here's her response:
Holly said...
I don't wear my glasses to read, I wear my glasses to drive and watch
movies.
If you're going to stalk, check your facts.
APRIL 22, 2010 9:47 AM
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Dory
Sandra!
I am so sorry to hear about your rough week.
You are such an inspiration for so many. Helping us fill our "tool boxes" with so many wonderful unschooling/parenting/life tools that we need (at least I do).
I'm grateful for you to share your rough spots because it reminds me we are all human and we all hit these spots. Life is life and some times it hurts.
You are holding a much needed spot in our unschooling community and for that I am grateful.
Thank you for sharing you with me/us!
Oh, I loved Holly's reply to the goof-ball who posted. She is an amazingly, secure person. Bravo Holly!! :)
Dory
Michigan
I am so sorry to hear about your rough week.
You are such an inspiration for so many. Helping us fill our "tool boxes" with so many wonderful unschooling/parenting/life tools that we need (at least I do).
I'm grateful for you to share your rough spots because it reminds me we are all human and we all hit these spots. Life is life and some times it hurts.
You are holding a much needed spot in our unschooling community and for that I am grateful.
Thank you for sharing you with me/us!
Oh, I loved Holly's reply to the goof-ball who posted. She is an amazingly, secure person. Bravo Holly!! :)
Dory
Michigan
BRIAN POLIKOWSKY
Sending you big hugs Sandra. I have been folowing all this week but too busy to sit and type anything longer than this.
YOu are amazing. Your kids are amazing.
Pam and many others are amazing.
I am impressed that Heather send that apology not only to you, Pam and the list but she did
post there about it too.
Very brave.
There has been a person that tried defending this list there. She was very well spoken and made sense but there is very little comom sense to the stuff they write there.
In the mean time I am taking this list advice completely and being even more with my kids doing stuff and just being with them.
Thank you all for so mush learning I do everyday just by reading when I get a chance.
As for Holly and what that person posted , you got to be kidding me right? How elementary school was that? No wonder we do not send our kids to school!
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
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YOu are amazing. Your kids are amazing.
Pam and many others are amazing.
I am impressed that Heather send that apology not only to you, Pam and the list but she did
post there about it too.
Very brave.
There has been a person that tried defending this list there. She was very well spoken and made sense but there is very little comom sense to the stuff they write there.
In the mean time I am taking this list advice completely and being even more with my kids doing stuff and just being with them.
Thank you all for so mush learning I do everyday just by reading when I get a chance.
As for Holly and what that person posted , you got to be kidding me right? How elementary school was that? No wonder we do not send our kids to school!
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
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Jenny Cyphers
***Holly looked at the blog and laughed. She asked me to leave it there.
Here's her response:
Holly said...
I don't wear my glasses to read, I wear my glasses to drive and watch
movies.
If you're going to stalk, check your facts.***
I love those little pat answers that unschooling kids come up with. They are so factual and succinct in what they say about what they see and know in the world!
The woman who had written that horrible piece on the GMA segment had written something about unschooling teenagers not knowing right from wrong because they've never had to deal with consequences. I'm paraphrasing because I don't want to find the link right now. Chamille heard that one bit and her mind went immediately to a very concrete way in which that isn't true while crossing the street when the sign said "don't walk".
She didn't even have to think very hard or long to come up with just ONE of many ways that comment isn't true!
Chamille wore glasses to read and so that her eyes wouldn't work so hard adjusting from near to far. She outgrew the need for glasses which, the first eye dr said she might do as the muscle in her one eye grew and caught up with her body. Technically, Chamille needed her glasses to learn how to read and now that she can read, she doesn't need them anymore, but that was a coincidence!
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Here's her response:
Holly said...
I don't wear my glasses to read, I wear my glasses to drive and watch
movies.
If you're going to stalk, check your facts.***
I love those little pat answers that unschooling kids come up with. They are so factual and succinct in what they say about what they see and know in the world!
The woman who had written that horrible piece on the GMA segment had written something about unschooling teenagers not knowing right from wrong because they've never had to deal with consequences. I'm paraphrasing because I don't want to find the link right now. Chamille heard that one bit and her mind went immediately to a very concrete way in which that isn't true while crossing the street when the sign said "don't walk".
She didn't even have to think very hard or long to come up with just ONE of many ways that comment isn't true!
Chamille wore glasses to read and so that her eyes wouldn't work so hard adjusting from near to far. She outgrew the need for glasses which, the first eye dr said she might do as the muscle in her one eye grew and caught up with her body. Technically, Chamille needed her glasses to learn how to read and now that she can read, she doesn't need them anymore, but that was a coincidence!
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renee_cabatic
What Jill said, what Diana said! But also....Thank you. In the midst of your rough week you took the time to post on my Facebook wall because one of my friends said insulting things about unschoolers.
My life, Chris's life, Xander's life, XuMei's life (even my Ma's life!) is better because of you.
I wish I had more time and was more able to articulate the positive impact you have had.
Thanks again....
Renee
My life, Chris's life, Xander's life, XuMei's life (even my Ma's life!) is better because of you.
I wish I had more time and was more able to articulate the positive impact you have had.
Thanks again....
Renee
Marina DeLuca-Howard
Sandra,
I am sorry your world contains so much tension right now. It must be
difficult to be doing something positive...you aren't actively on
pro-school, pro-discipline sites posting lies or insults to have some of
those people do that because clearly their ideas cannot stand if yours do,
in their minds. Its funny because you keep saying you aren't running a
cult--people either want to unschool or they don't. You tell people it is
hard, but rewarding. You have generously commented that it isn't a contest
and doesn't mean someone doesn't love their child if they don't unschool, so
it is odd that people would try to find fault with any of your kids.
I am also realizing if someone wants to unschool they ask "how can I", if
they don't they seem to ask "why should I" or worse "why did you do that,
because x disproves your experience, therefore your experience can't be
emulated".
It is very frustrating work you do, and I am impressed you keep slogging
away, sharing your life.
Thank you,
Marina
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I am sorry your world contains so much tension right now. It must be
difficult to be doing something positive...you aren't actively on
pro-school, pro-discipline sites posting lies or insults to have some of
those people do that because clearly their ideas cannot stand if yours do,
in their minds. Its funny because you keep saying you aren't running a
cult--people either want to unschool or they don't. You tell people it is
hard, but rewarding. You have generously commented that it isn't a contest
and doesn't mean someone doesn't love their child if they don't unschool, so
it is odd that people would try to find fault with any of your kids.
I am also realizing if someone wants to unschool they ask "how can I", if
they don't they seem to ask "why should I" or worse "why did you do that,
because x disproves your experience, therefore your experience can't be
emulated".
It is very frustrating work you do, and I am impressed you keep slogging
away, sharing your life.
Thank you,
Marina
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Vidyut Kale
Big hug.
I find I can change my mood if I can look for things that are working. Stuff
that makes me happy. Even silly stuff that gets a reflex smile. It starts
'catching' and before I know it, I feel better and can gear down to mock
glares and wry smiles and.... poof. Lousy patch gone.
... if it helps.
Vidyut
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I find I can change my mood if I can look for things that are working. Stuff
that makes me happy. Even silly stuff that gets a reflex smile. It starts
'catching' and before I know it, I feel better and can gear down to mock
glares and wry smiles and.... poof. Lousy patch gone.
... if it helps.
Vidyut
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diana jenner
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
Holly call Marty to find out if Kirby was trustworthy? Only if they were
playing Assassin and she was suspicious! Or if one or the other was being
sketchy while trying to plan a surprise party for her!
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.wordpress.com
hannahsashes.blogspot.com
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>The real gift here: I can't imagine this dynamic with your kids. Would
>
> That's okay, but my half brother called twice on Sunday. He's in his
> late 30's and was born when I was 19, to my drunken mother and one of
> her drunken friends from the bar. ... I called my
> sister to see if it was true (she visited him in November), because I
> don't trust him.
>
Holly call Marty to find out if Kirby was trustworthy? Only if they were
playing Assassin and she was suspicious! Or if one or the other was being
sketchy while trying to plan a surprise party for her!
~diana :)
xoxoxoxo
hannahbearski.wordpress.com
hannahsashes.blogspot.com
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Robin Bentley
Sandra,
I'm sorry this is happening. That nonsense about Holly and plagiarism
of your website - that kind of thing seems to go in cycles, doesn't
it? It sucks. I want to call someone out.
To learn what happened to your half brother and that someone said
"Don't tell Sandra" (because you would have done something about it)
must really be difficult. It does speak to the person you are, though,
that if you'd known, you would've taken action and people knew it.
I, like Jill, read ideas of yours that I'd never heard from all the
people I knew who claimed to be unschoolers (I didn't know they
weren't at the time). Something about your site and what you wrote on
unschooling.dotcom, then unschoolingdiscussion, then AlwaysLearning
(my migratory path <g>) stuck with me, even though I had some trouble
getting my head around the concepts and the straightforwardness,
thinking *my* child was different.
It turns out that it doesn't matter what kind of child I have, the
principles are the same. Sure, my life won't look like yours, or
Pam's, or Joyce's, or Jenny's (oh, maybe a bit like Jenny's <g>), but
your thoughts and words and suggestions are consistent, no matter
what. And they work. I credit you (and the moderators of this list)
with the life I have with Michelle *and* with my husband.
I really appreciated Heather's apology and I'm glad she's come back. I
know I took breaks from the list when I needed to digest something
that hit home for me. I kept (and keep) coming back again and again.
Now, about SUSS....
affirming, plus I met folks who I hope will be friends of mine for life.
Thanks for all you do.
Robin B.
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I'm sorry this is happening. That nonsense about Holly and plagiarism
of your website - that kind of thing seems to go in cycles, doesn't
it? It sucks. I want to call someone out.
To learn what happened to your half brother and that someone said
"Don't tell Sandra" (because you would have done something about it)
must really be difficult. It does speak to the person you are, though,
that if you'd known, you would've taken action and people knew it.
I, like Jill, read ideas of yours that I'd never heard from all the
people I knew who claimed to be unschoolers (I didn't know they
weren't at the time). Something about your site and what you wrote on
unschooling.dotcom, then unschoolingdiscussion, then AlwaysLearning
(my migratory path <g>) stuck with me, even though I had some trouble
getting my head around the concepts and the straightforwardness,
thinking *my* child was different.
It turns out that it doesn't matter what kind of child I have, the
principles are the same. Sure, my life won't look like yours, or
Pam's, or Joyce's, or Jenny's (oh, maybe a bit like Jenny's <g>), but
your thoughts and words and suggestions are consistent, no matter
what. And they work. I credit you (and the moderators of this list)
with the life I have with Michelle *and* with my husband.
I really appreciated Heather's apology and I'm glad she's come back. I
know I took breaks from the list when I needed to digest something
that hit home for me. I kept (and keep) coming back again and again.
Now, about SUSS....
>Oh, goody! I'll be there, wherever and whenever. SUSS was really
> That was a really great gathering. I've been thinking of doing some
> similar kinds of things at my house and some local motel, maybe. I
> liked the condos but it was kind of expensive. Just thinking,
> thusfar, but it's becoming a more frequent thought.
affirming, plus I met folks who I hope will be friends of mine for life.
Thanks for all you do.
Robin B.
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Robin Bentley
Yup, that's me! I take my glasses off to read and always have.
Now I'm waiting for my progressives to be finished next week, then
I'll compare.
Robin B.
Now I'm waiting for my progressives to be finished next week, then
I'll compare.
Robin B.
> Lots of people wear glasses for distance, not for reading. They take
> them OFF for reading (or wear progressive lenses that have the
> prescription part in the upper section so they're not looking through
> that part when reading).
>
>
Vidyut Kale
"Some dork posted (anonymously) something tacky saying that Holly doesn't
know how to read."
LOL I just read the comment. It sounds more like a sulky kid being rude. I
don't think anyone reading the comment could possibly read it as a
reflection on Holly. In your place, I'd not delete it and let that
ridiculous person get the satisfaction of getting a 'raise'. I'd just leave
it there as an immortal monument to his/her graceless presence. We don't
know who the person is, but that person knows and will see it there sitting
in the metaphorical room as the mess s/he tried to make and the party went
on around it like a bunch of happy people ignoring the drunk passed out on
the floor :D
BTW, the photos are beautiful.
Vidyut
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know how to read."
LOL I just read the comment. It sounds more like a sulky kid being rude. I
don't think anyone reading the comment could possibly read it as a
reflection on Holly. In your place, I'd not delete it and let that
ridiculous person get the satisfaction of getting a 'raise'. I'd just leave
it there as an immortal monument to his/her graceless presence. We don't
know who the person is, but that person knows and will see it there sitting
in the metaphorical room as the mess s/he tried to make and the party went
on around it like a bunch of happy people ignoring the drunk passed out on
the floor :D
BTW, the photos are beautiful.
Vidyut
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