how incentives are experienced by kids
Lyla Wolfenstein
someone just posted this to my daughter's facebook and i thought it was a great example of the detrimental effects of rewards and bribes on kids, from a kid's own mouth:
"Not my fault I can't spell, I blame grownups who give bad incentives... I don't like raisen cookies."
Lyla
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"Not my fault I can't spell, I blame grownups who give bad incentives... I don't like raisen cookies."
Lyla
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k
I wonder if the incentive was actually a requirement... "Raisin cookies are
good for you." In which case, it wasn't an incentive in the first place.
~Katherine
good for you." In which case, it wasn't an incentive in the first place.
~Katherine
On 3/28/09, Lyla Wolfenstein <lylaw@...> wrote:
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> someone just posted this to my daughter's facebook and i thought it was a
> great example of the detrimental effects of rewards and bribes on kids, from
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> "Not my fault I can't spell, I blame grownups who give bad incentives... I
> don't like raisen cookies."
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> Lyla
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cherylsjoy
Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising" cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared their children, "cookie" being a derogetory term?
C
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--- In [email protected], k <katherand@...> wrote:
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> I wonder if the incentive was actually a requirement... "Raisin cookies are
> good for you." In which case, it wasn't an incentive in the first place.
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> ~Katherine
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> On 3/28/09, Lyla Wolfenstein <lylaw@...> wrote:
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> > someone just posted this to my daughter's facebook and i thought it was a
> > great example of the detrimental effects of rewards and bribes on kids, from
> > a kid's own mouth:
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> > "Not my fault I can't spell, I blame grownups who give bad incentives... I
> > don't like raisen cookies."
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> > Lyla
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Lyla Wolfenstein
i am not sure what this means - this was a 13 year old posting this....
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From: cherylsjoy
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 6:44 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: how incentives are experienced by kids
Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising" cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared their children, "cookie" being a derogetory term?
C
--- In [email protected], k <katherand@...> wrote:
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> I wonder if the incentive was actually a requirement... "Raisin cookies are
> good for you." In which case, it wasn't an incentive in the first place.
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> ~Katherine
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> On 3/28/09, Lyla Wolfenstein <lylaw@...> wrote:
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> > someone just posted this to my daughter's facebook and i thought it was a
> > great example of the detrimental effects of rewards and bribes on kids, from
> > a kid's own mouth:
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> > "Not my fault I can't spell, I blame grownups who give bad incentives... I
> > don't like raisen cookies."
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> > Lyla
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Sandra Dodd
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Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising"
cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared their
children, "cookie" being a derogetory term? -=-
I don't think that's right.
Just because a 13 year old posted it, it doesn't mean it was written
by that same 13 year old. I doubt anyone is really using raisin
cookies to lure kids to spell well. Maybe. <g> I was thinking
possibly part of the "joke" (though it wasn't a great one in any case)
was that "raisin" was misspelled "raisen" in the original statement.
But looking at the statement, if it meant a kid won't spell for raisin
cookies but might have spelled for chocolate cookies or for money,
that doesn't make sense either. Would a kid learn to spell for an
XBox? For drugs?
Either kids can spell or not. Same with adults. Even with a desire
and practice, people don't all have the same capacity.
Sandra
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Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising"
cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared their
children, "cookie" being a derogetory term? -=-
I don't think that's right.
Just because a 13 year old posted it, it doesn't mean it was written
by that same 13 year old. I doubt anyone is really using raisin
cookies to lure kids to spell well. Maybe. <g> I was thinking
possibly part of the "joke" (though it wasn't a great one in any case)
was that "raisin" was misspelled "raisen" in the original statement.
But looking at the statement, if it meant a kid won't spell for raisin
cookies but might have spelled for chocolate cookies or for money,
that doesn't make sense either. Would a kid learn to spell for an
XBox? For drugs?
Either kids can spell or not. Same with adults. Even with a desire
and practice, people don't all have the same capacity.
Sandra
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Lyla Wolfenstein
well that was exactly my point, but also that the *kid* - if she wrote it - thinks the right incentives would have helped.
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From: Sandra Dodd
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Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: how incentives are experienced by kids
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Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising"
cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared their
children, "cookie" being a derogetory term? -=-
I don't think that's right.
Just because a 13 year old posted it, it doesn't mean it was written
by that same 13 year old. I doubt anyone is really using raisin
cookies to lure kids to spell well. Maybe. <g> I was thinking
possibly part of the "joke" (though it wasn't a great one in any case)
was that "raisin" was misspelled "raisen" in the original statement.
But looking at the statement, if it meant a kid won't spell for raisin
cookies but might have spelled for chocolate cookies or for money,
that doesn't make sense either. Would a kid learn to spell for an
XBox? For drugs?
Either kids can spell or not. Same with adults. Even with a desire
and practice, people don't all have the same capacity.
Sandra
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Robyn L. Coburn
<<<> Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising"
like "cookie cutter" - no individuality? I heard the pun in my mind too -
but I didn't think it was intentional.
Robyn L. Coburn
www.Iggyjingles.etsy.com
www.iggyjingles.blogspot.com
www.allthingsdoll.blogspot.com
> cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared theirYou're seeing the op making a pun on the words raisin/raising and cookie
> children, "cookie" being a derogetory term? -=->>>>
like "cookie cutter" - no individuality? I heard the pun in my mind too -
but I didn't think it was intentional.
Robyn L. Coburn
www.Iggyjingles.etsy.com
www.iggyjingles.blogspot.com
www.allthingsdoll.blogspot.com
cherylsjoy
I was being facetious - that the 13 yo was judging the
parent saying, "I don't like <parents> raisen cookies."
C
parent saying, "I don't like <parents> raisen cookies."
C
--- In [email protected], "Lyla Wolfenstein" <lylaw@...> wrote:
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> i am not sure what this means - this was a 13 year old posting this....
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: cherylsjoy
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 6:44 PM
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re: how incentives are experienced by kids
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> Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising" cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared their children, "cookie" being a derogetory term?
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> C
> --- In [email protected], k <katherand@> wrote:
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> > I wonder if the incentive was actually a requirement... "Raisin cookies are
> > good for you." In which case, it wasn't an incentive in the first place.
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> > ~Katherine
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> > On 3/28/09, Lyla Wolfenstein <lylaw@> wrote:
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> > > someone just posted this to my daughter's facebook and i thought it was a
> > > great example of the detrimental effects of rewards and bribes on kids, from
> > > a kid's own mouth:
> > >
> > > "Not my fault I can't spell, I blame grownups who give bad incentives... I
> > > don't like raisen cookies."
> > >
> > > Lyla
> > >
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cherylsjoy
--- In [email protected], "Robyn L. Coburn" <dezigna@...> wrote:
intended it. I did pick up on "cookie cutter", but couldn't put
my finger on it until you just now named it. Thank you!
- C
>I was having fun in my own way, not thinking the child actually
> <<<> Or maybe a clipped word, a colloquial alternative to "raising"
> > cookies. Maybe it's a judgement on how the parent reared their
> > children, "cookie" being a derogetory term? -=->>>>
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> You're seeing the op making a pun on the words raisin/raising and cookie
> like "cookie cutter" - no individuality? I heard the pun in my mind too -
> but I didn't think it was intentional.
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intended it. I did pick up on "cookie cutter", but couldn't put
my finger on it until you just now named it. Thank you!
- C