Ed Wendell

Is there a way to find job "requirements" for various jobs? Or what jobs are out there if one has a certain interest? Specifically, Zac has been building some fantastic Lego creations and we got to wondering (again) what jobs are available and what the requirements would be to get a job with Lego. He is 14 and beginning to explore various options - for instance last week he announced that he would probably have to go to college to get a decent paying job - which sparked a discussion about the pros and cons of a college education - and how a good paying job does not require a college degree but a college degree may be required for a certain "job" or career field, etc.

I'm having trouble narrowing our Google search down to get anything useful.

Any tips on specific words to use in our search?

Lisa W.



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Margaret

http://www.lego.com/eng/info/default.asp?page=jobs

Click on "vacancies" to see job descriptions of jobs in Europe.

Lego gives this link for US Lego jobs:
http://www3.recruitingcenter.net/clients/lego/publicjobs/

A lot of those seem to be retail jobs but I doubt all of them are.

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Ed Wendell <ewendell@...> wrote:
> Is there a way to find job "requirements" for various jobs? Or what jobs are
> out there if one has a certain interest? Specifically, Zac has been building
> some fantastic Lego creations and we got to wondering (again) what jobs are
> available and what the requirements would be to get a job with Lego. He is
> 14 and beginning to explore various options - for instance last week he
> announced that he would probably have to go to college to get a decent
> paying job - which sparked a discussion about the pros and cons of a college
> education - and how a good paying job does not require a college degree but
> a college degree may be required for a certain "job" or career field, etc.
>
> I'm having trouble narrowing our Google search down to get anything useful.
>
> Any tips on specific words to use in our search?
>
> Lisa W.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Ed Wendell

Right, he is looking more at using his passion for design and creativity. I was thinking maybe even of Lego Land where they build all those designs and "things".


Lisa





A lot of those seem to be retail jobs but I doubt all of them are.
._,_._,___

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k

Go to the Lego website and find their career section. If nothing's listed,
consider email the "contact us" link to get info on the questions you're
asking. They can explain their hiring process as it stands now and by the
time Zac is ready though the process may look different then you will have
some idea of what job titles are and most important it would be great to get
the job descriptions and requirements and stuff.

~Katherine




On 9/6/08, Ed Wendell <ewendell@...> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to find job "requirements" for various jobs? Or what jobs
> are out there if one has a certain interest? Specifically, Zac has been
> building some fantastic Lego creations and we got to wondering (again) what
> jobs are available and what the requirements would be to get a job with
> Lego. He is 14 and beginning to explore various options - for instance last
> week he announced that he would probably have to go to college to get a
> decent paying job - which sparked a discussion about the pros and cons of a
> college education - and how a good paying job does not require a college
> degree but a college degree may be required for a certain "job" or career
> field, etc.
>
> I'm having trouble narrowing our Google search down to get anything useful.
>
> Any tips on specific words to use in our search?
>
> Lisa W.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Sandra Dodd

Another idea is to find ways for him to do things now. There might
be local toy stores that would want a Lego Christmas display, or
maybe some kind of community education group where he could do a Lego
workshop, or maybe a store would want to set up a Lego sales booth at
something in town and have him there making things.

Many jobs come along from someone being known to be talented and able.

Sandra

BRIAN POLIKOWSKY

Lisa I can't help with the job but
I just wanted to point out that there are many people who make lots of money and did not
go to college or are college drop outs.
There are also high school drop outs like Richard Branson (read Virgin empire)who are multimillionaires.
 
 

 
Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unschoolingmn/
 



----- Original Message ----
From: Ed Wendell <ewendell@...>
To: AlwaysLearning <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 8:05:14 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] how to find job availability and requirements


Is there a way to find job "requirements" for various jobs? Or what jobs are out there if one has a certain interest? Specifically, Zac has been building some fantastic Lego creations and we got to wondering (again) what jobs are available and what the requirements would be to get a job with Lego. He is 14 and beginning to explore various options - for instance last week he announced that he would probably have to go to college to get a decent paying job - which sparked a discussion about the pros and cons of a college education - and how a good paying job does not require a college degree but a college degree may be required for a certain "job" or career field, etc.

I'm having trouble narrowing our Google search down to get anything useful.

Any tips on specific words to use in our search?

Lisa W.

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Sandra Dodd

-=-I just wanted to point out that there are many people who make
lots of money and did not
go to college or are college drop outs.-=-



There are unemployed college grads, and college grads working
alongside unschooled kids (this I know for certain) and high school
grads. One difference is the college grads generally have student
loans to pay off or are getting family grief for not either getting a
hoity job or going back to school.



Sandra

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Ed Wendell

Oh my I never thought of this - THANKS!!!!!



Lisa




Another idea is to find ways for him to do things now. There might
be local toy stores that would want a Lego Christmas display, or
maybe some kind of community education group where he could do a Lego
workshop, or maybe a store would want to set up a Lego sales booth at
something in town and have him there making things.

Many jobs come along from someone being known to be talented and able.

Sandra
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Ed Wendell

Oh exactly, that is the conversation we had with him - that college is not necessary to have a "good" life. That enjoying what you do is much more important. He is 14 and just starting to explore various points of view I think. When we asked him why he thought that a college degree was necessary, he said something about that is what he hears on TV and all over the place. He has never ever heard it from us, though we did tell him that if he chooses to go we will help if he wants it. We did brain storm all the various "jobs" / things he could do to "make a living" that do not require a degree. I really think that conversation stimulated his wondering if and what jobs were available with Lego and the requirements - simply because he has been into Lego's this week. Plus making Magic playing decks. Our family room is covered with card stacks and Lego creations - he did leave a path to the back door though. Some of this is why I was trying to help him explore what is available and what the requirements are.

His dad and I have college educations - I "use" mine and his dad never has. I would say it was a waste of money but I met Ed in college so I won't say that :)

Lisa






----- Original Message -----
From: BRIAN POLIKOWSKY
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] how to find job availability and requirements


Lisa I can't help with the job but
I just wanted to point out that there are many people who make lots of money and did not
go to college or are college drop outs.
There are also high school drop outs like Richard Branson (read Virgin empire)who are multimillionaires.




Alex Polikowsky
http://polykow.blogspot.com/


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Nancy Wooton

On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Ed Wendell wrote:

> Is there a way to find job "requirements" for various jobs? Or what
> jobs are out there if one has a certain interest? Specifically,
> Zac has been building some fantastic Lego creations and we got to
> wondering (again) what jobs are available and what the requirements
> would be to get a job with Lego. He is 14 and beginning to explore
> various options - for instance last week he announced that he would
> probably have to go to college to get a decent paying job - which
> sparked a discussion about the pros and cons of a college education
> - and how a good paying job does not require a college degree but a
> college degree may be required for a certain "job" or career field,
> etc.
>
> I'm having trouble narrowing our Google search down to get anything
> useful.
>
> Any tips on specific words to use in our search?
>
> Lisa W.


http://www.legolandmodelbuilder.com/builder_kristi.html

I live in San Diego. Legoland really does hire people to build the
stuff in the park :-)

Nancy

Ed Wendell

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/06/02/man-quits-job-to-make-lego-art/



Here is a guy that gave up his life as a corporate lawyer to make Lego art. He said he was spending around 7000 per year on Legos anyway. WOW!!!!


Thank you to everyone for the jump start in looking at more than "jobs" at Lego - we are finding tons of info on various options now that we took our blinders off. This is what I was looking for - ideas for more than the traditional.

Lisa


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Margaret

Here is the link to the contest. It took me longer than it should
have to get it so I thought I would post it:

http://www.legolandmodelbuilder.com/

It also might be fun to attend a lego conference. We are going to the
public exhibit part of BrickCon (Seattle) this fall but someone his
age can actually attend the conference as a participant although I
think a parent needs to come with him. On top of all the fun stuff,
it would be interesting to see what jobs Lego lovers love - it could
be really helpful to him.

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Nancy Wooton <nancywooton@...> wrote:
>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Ed Wendell wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to find job "requirements" for various jobs? Or what
>> jobs are out there if one has a certain interest? Specifically,
>> Zac has been building some fantastic Lego creations and we got to
>> wondering (again) what jobs are available and what the requirements
>> would be to get a job with Lego. He is 14 and beginning to explore
>> various options - for instance last week he announced that he would
>> probably have to go to college to get a decent paying job - which
>> sparked a discussion about the pros and cons of a college education
>> - and how a good paying job does not require a college degree but a
>> college degree may be required for a certain "job" or career field,
>> etc.
>>
>> I'm having trouble narrowing our Google search down to get anything
>> useful.
>>
>> Any tips on specific words to use in our search?
>>
>> Lisa W.
>
> http://www.legolandmodelbuilder.com/builder_kristi.html
>
> I live in San Diego. Legoland really does hire people to build the
> stuff in the park :-)
>
> Nancy
>

Ed Wendell

Yes I had already found the contest for the job - AND I found that the artist in the previous post has an art exhibition touring the USA this year (the only all Lego art exhibit ever) and it will be in Kansas City next May.

http://www.brickartist.com/


a Lego conference? never hear of this - back to Google ;) Brickcon? Like a comicon for comics???

Lisa



----- Original Message -----
From: Margaret
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] how to find job availability and requirements


Here is the link to the contest. It took me longer than it should
have to get it so I thought I would post it:


It also might be fun to attend a lego conference.
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Margaret

http://www.brickcon.org/


On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ed Wendell <ewendell@...> wrote:
> Yes I had already found the contest for the job - AND I found that the
> artist in the previous post has an art exhibition touring the USA this year
> (the only all Lego art exhibit ever) and it will be in Kansas City next May.
>
> http://www.brickartist.com/
>
> a Lego conference? never hear of this - back to Google ;) Brickcon? Like a
> comicon for comics???
>
> Lisa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Margaret
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] how to find job availability and requirements
>
> Here is the link to the contest. It took me longer than it should
> have to get it so I thought I would post it:
>
> It also might be fun to attend a lego conference.
> .
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Margaret

also this one: http://www.brickworld.us/?m=bios

You might be able to ask about conferences at your local lego store.
I know there was something about BrickCon at my local store (which is
close to Seattle where the conference will be).

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Margaret <margaretz@...> wrote:
> http://www.brickcon.org/
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ed Wendell <ewendell@...> wrote:
>> Yes I had already found the contest for the job - AND I found that the
>> artist in the previous post has an art exhibition touring the USA this year
>> (the only all Lego art exhibit ever) and it will be in Kansas City next May.
>>
>> http://www.brickartist.com/
>>
>> a Lego conference? never hear of this - back to Google ;) Brickcon? Like a
>> comicon for comics???
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Margaret
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 9:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] how to find job availability and requirements
>>
>> Here is the link to the contest. It took me longer than it should
>> have to get it so I thought I would post it:
>>
>> It also might be fun to attend a lego conference.
>> .
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>

Ed Wendell

We don't have a Lego store anywhere near us - that I know of. We're in Kansas City. Just Wal-mart and Toys R Us. Oh and eBay ;)

He is not interested in the Lego robotics clubs that are around - he does not like robotics.


Lisa




You might be able to ask about conferences at your local lego store.
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Karen Hsu

There's also a guy in Niagara that has a tourist attraction called Brick
City - we go for the model Lego trains, and the other Lego creations are
pretty amazing too. It's there year-round, and he's got seasonal employees
that help build and run the place:

http://www.falls.com/brickcity.htm

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Ed Wendell <ewendell@...> wrote:

> Yes I had already found the contest for the job - AND I found that the
> artist in the previous post has an art exhibition touring the USA this year
> (the only all Lego art exhibit ever) and it will be in Kansas City next May.
>
> http://www.brickartist.com/
>
> .
>
>

--
Karen
http://houseofhsus.blogspot.com/


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Meghan Anderson-Coates

<<<<<<<<<<<<<Yes I had already found the contest for the job - AND I found that the artist in the previous post has an art exhibition touring the USA this year (the only all Lego art exhibit ever) and it will be in Kansas City next May.

http://www.brickart ist.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is so cool! He's going to be near us�next May also (but in Redding, CA). I've already got it in my calendar. Thanks for posting it :-)

Meghan


Why not go out on a limb? Isn�t that where the fruit is?
~ Frank Scully




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Paula Sjogerman

It's not really close, but there's a big Lego store in Chicago.

Paula, City Booster


--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Ed Wendell <ewendell@...> wrote:

> From: Ed Wendell <ewendell@...>
> Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] how to find job availability and requirements
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 10:22 PM
> We don't have a Lego store anywhere near us - that I
> know of. We're in Kansas City. Just Wal-mart and Toys
> R Us. Oh and eBay ;)
>
> He is not interested in the Lego robotics clubs that are
> around - he does not like robotics.
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
>
> You might be able to ask about conferences at your local
> lego store.
> .
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>

Melissa Dietrick

--- In [email protected], BRIAN POLIKOWSKY
<polykowholsteins@...> wrote:
>
> Lisa I can't help with the job but
> I just wanted to point out that there are many people who make lots
of money and did not
> go to college or are college drop outs.
> There are also high school drop outs like Richard Branson (read
Virgin empire)who are multimillionaires.
>  

My eldest dd, lucia is 21 and is making more the past 3 months than a
doctor does here in italy...

I dont know if she is going to keep this pace up, but she needs dd2
and I to help her now, as she cant keep up with the pace alone!

there are lots of "geek" art on Esty.com
where our little shop is...
http://www.larimeloom.etsy.com/

maybe lego art is there in some form?
okay, just took a quick look!
this guy for example, makes lego sculptures and sells them here:
http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5193400
and there is a LOT of lego jewellry!

melissa
in italy
mamma of 7
always unschoolers at heart, but only "really" unschooling dd5, 8yrs...

Melissa Dietrick

> My eldest dd, lucia is 21 and is making more the past 3 months than a
> doctor does here in italy...
nschoolers at heart, but only "really" unschooling dd5, 8yrs...

I neglected to say that she is not in college--but she was definitely
in school from 6yrs, thru 19...

yet what she is doing, has nothing to do with anything she ever
learned in school and all to do with what we have always played with
when out of school...
melissa

Sandra Dodd

-=-There's also a guy in Niagara that has a tourist attraction called
Brick
City - we go for the model Lego trains, and the other Lego creations are
pretty amazing too. It's there year-round, and he's got seasonal
employees
that help build and run the place:

http://www.falls.com/brickcity.htm

======================



Kirby got his first job at 14 because when he was 13 he was at the
game shop a lot, he was helpful, he wasn't any trouble, he was a draw
(other kids came there because Kirby was there) and he would
volunteer to help pick up chairs after games, or to vacuum, or when
they were folding flyers to mail, he would offer to help.

When he turned 14 they made him an employee and started paying him to
run the Pokeman tournaments every Saturday morning. Had he been a
schoolkid, the idea of getting up early on a Saturday would've
probably been off-putting, but for Kirby, it was the only morning of
the week he had to wake up at a certain time. <bwg>



Another friend of his who really wanted a job was told some of that,
and his immediate response was "I'm not going to help anyone for
nothing."



Kirby didn't get the job *just* because he was voluntarily helpful.
There were other factors. But that was a factor.



Sandra

Ed Wendell

Thanks, as we are going to an unschooling conference (well, dreaming, discussing, and planning on it anyway) in Niagara Falls next June - So I have next May and June lined up for Lego's - ;)

Right now he is off to check out a Panera Bread restaurant that hosts Magic The Gathering card playing tournaments that he found out about on TH.

Thanks everyone for helping me to think outside the box - of other options besides getting a job with Lego the company or amusement park. Not that those are not viable options of course - just that there is so much more out there that we had not heard of.

And of course this is transferable to other interests - which I was wanting too - as he has many interests besides Lego - and probably many more to come. Though war history, weaponry, political and social implications/causes/effects/, strategy; all aspects of war through out the world and time really and Lego's have been his passion since age 3 or 4.

Lisa





There's also a guy in Niagara that has a tourist attraction called Brick
City - we go for the model Lego trains, and the other Lego creations are
pretty amazing too. It's there year-round, and he's got seasonal employees
that help build and run the place:

http://www.falls.com/brickcity.htm


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Sandra Dodd

-=-Thanks everyone for helping me to think outside the box - of other
options besides getting a job with Lego the company or amusement
park. Not that those are not viable options of course - just that
there is so much more out there that we had not heard of.-=-

For a while when Kirby was younger he wanted to work at Toys R Us.
Then he wanted to work at Nintendo. That was a consideration, once,
when Keith was offered a transfer within the company, and one of the
options was in Washington state.

We didn't discourage Kirby at all, nor look up job requirements. We
kept letting him play Nintendo! We kept him supplied and fed and at
peace.

Years passed, and he worked at a gaming shop which didn't hurt him a
bit at all, and then he worked at a Pizza place with his gamer
buddies from a different gaming shop, and now he works for Blizzard
Entertainment.

Working for Blizzard is kind of along the lines of Toys R Us and
Nintendo, but when Kirby first talked about what he might like to do,
Blizzard hardly existed (they were making some game cartridges, I
think, for some Nintendo games, or something).

Maybe what your son will want to do doesn't exist yet, but Lego will
still be a step toward it.

I think more likely, most companies hire people, and the value of a
person is made of all the things he knows and likes and is confident
about and competent in. Lots of people have school credentials and
transcripts. Not many more have something different and more
interesting.

Sandra

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Ed Wendell

For a while when Kirby was younger he wanted to work at Toys R Us.



Zac used to talk about owning Toys R Us ;)
~~~~~~~~

We didn't discourage Kirby at all, nor look up job requirements. We
kept letting him play Nintendo! We kept him supplied and fed and at
peace.


I agree totally - The only reason we were researching job requirements was Zac wanted to - he was wondering what is actually out there and he was thinking it took a college degree to get anywhere that pays well. I really wanted him to see the flip side - that it would not necessarily take a college degree - depending upon what he wants to do of course. If he wanted to be an emergency room nurse he'd have to get a degree. If he wanted to be a paramedic - that takes a different type of program/schooling. My sister is a nurse for babies at the local Children's Hospital - loves the job - college was the only avenue to that job. BUT I wanted him to see the vast opportunities in addition to / instead of college. I think he sees most all the local homeschoolers in our group - especially the unschooled ones for some reason - go to college early like around his age and he is beginning to think about things like this and explore options.

Lego's were a focus for the discussion that he was interested in exploring in depth at this moment in time.

Yesterday he was fanaticizing about if he had enough money he could start a wild animal rescue place - where people have wild (non-domesticated) animals such as tigers as pets and then figure out they cannot manage them nor their expenses so they end up at rescue places.

He dreams and talks the same as we do. You know a lot of those: "IF ....." or "I would do ......." conversations or "It would be neat if I ........."

I also want him to realize that what he chooses to do is not the path he must stay on - like the corporate lawyer that chose to change and do Lego art. If he does one thing and then he changes his mind that is fine too wether it is 1 year latter or 10 or 20 years later - change is fine.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maybe what your son will want to do doesn't exist yet, but Lego will
still be a step toward it.

exactly! Could be - who knows? Or maybe he'll play Lego's with his kid/kids really well someday ;)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think more likely, most companies hire people, and the value of a
person is made of all the things he knows and likes and is confident
about and competent in. Lots of people have school credentials and
transcripts. Not many more have something different and more
interesting.

Sandra

I agree, this is the type of information we are trying to share with him as he explores. Again, Thank You for helping us give words to some of our thoughts and helping us to help him explore. We've actually moved beyond job "requirements" just since I posted last night - thanks to this group ;)

Lisa.


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Sandra Dodd

Holly wanted to show me a picture of Heath Ledger in the nurse's
uniform from the recent Batman movie. I'll see it someday but both
Holly and Marty came home saying I should wait for DVD, as I'm a
little squeamish about scenes of violence to bodies. So we "google
imaged it" and found it done with Lego:


http://mocpages.com/moc.php/67368

It seems to be a photo sharing site just for lego creations!

Sandra

graberamy

>
> Many jobs come along from someone being known to be talented and
able.>>>

My son just joined a local lego league. We haven't even had our first
meeting yet, but perhaps your son could find out more about the company
through this? Perhaps he could be a judge at a local lego league
event? My son also subscribed to the free lego magazine and when I was
ordering it, I saw they have lego competitions on their website??

Or, maybe he could start his own lego workshops! I know if there was an
older lego "master" who was offering tips and ideas for a fee, my son
and his buddies would sign up in a second! Or he could start a lego
help desk! I know my sons lego abilities have outgrown mine and I am
often having trouble helping him when he gets stuck! [:D]

Also, our engineering college (Iowa State University) offers lego
workshops (the robotics) courses for young kids for free. If your local
college offers something like this maybe that would be a good place to
find out some information?


amy g
iowa




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Ed Wendell

Those are great suggestions but Zachariah does not like Lego robotics at all. For some reason all the groups and clubs and classes out there are for the Lego robotics (that we've found anyway) - I know we could try to start our own club but he enjoys making and building by himself, it is frustrating for him to try to work with anyone - he has a picture in his mind of how it should be and that is what he creates.

GREAT ideas about helping others and help desk, etc. Thanks!

Lisa W.

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m_aduhene

hi,
saw this on another group added as a link by a mum whose son was also
interested in LEGO. hope it helps.
blessings
michelle

Sandra Dodd

-=-hi,
saw this on another group added as a link by a mum whose son was also
interested in LEGO. hope it helps.
blessings
michelle-=-



Saw what? Nothing else was in my e-mail...



Sandra

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