Sandra Dodd

Let's make a list of movies to induce discussions about friendships
with other kids, for younger kids.

The Cure

My Girl

Stand By Me

Heidi

(I'll ask Holly and Marty and put another post when I have their input.)





A scary example (not so good for sharing with a troubled child): The
Bad Seed, the original version. I'm just betting that's been watched
or discussed by those writing or directing or acting in Desperate
Housewives. Lynette and Kayla.

Oh yes, I just did a little google search and found references to
just that: Rachel Fox, who plays Kayla:

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"She is every parent's worst nightmare," said Fox. "She does so many
evil things, I wish I could tell you!"

Desperate Housewives" creator Marc Cherry took his inspiration for
Kayla from the 1956 film "The Bad Seed," in which Patty McCormack
played a girl who did whatever it took to get what she wanted.

"They asked me to watch [the movie], so I did," Fox said. "I love it.
It was kind of scary, but Patty McCormack did a really good job. I
loved her evil look."
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And the actress did such a good job at using that same evil look that
I thought of the movie, which I haven't seen for 30 years or more.


<http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/
2008/05/02/2008-05-02_desperate_housewives_unveils_its_newest_.html>

Sandra




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Joanna Murphy

Desperate Housewives" creator Marc Cherry took his inspiration for
> Kayla from the 1956 film "The Bad Seed," in which Patty McCormack
> played a girl who did whatever it took to get what she wanted.
>

Good call!

I just love recognizing the direct influences of prior works on current stuff. Brilliant!

Of course, no examples are coming to my after 40 mind right now, but my son and I both
enjoy pointing them out when we see them. It's fun for me that he's seeing his own--it used
to be just me pointing them out, beginning of course, with all the stories that draw from the
J. R. R. Tolkien well. Sometimes I see a character, and I just know that the author had read
the same book, etc., and I feel this great intellectual connection. References like that are like
a library of common language. Fun.

Joanna

cathyandgarth

--- In [email protected], Sandra Dodd <Sandra@...> wrote:
>
>
> Let's make a list of movies to induce discussions about
friendships
> with other kids, for younger kids.
>

Most recent sources of conversations about friendships ...

Bridge to Terabithia
Hoot
Holes
Madagascar
Little Vampires

TV shows: iCarly and Hannah Montana (loads of discussion about
sibling relationships have come from Drake and Josh)

Cathy

Meghan Anderson-Coates

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The Bad Seed, the original version.

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For some reason this made me think of the movie Bad Ronald. It was a TV movie from the 70's about a boy who accidentally kills another kid and his mom makes a false wall and hides him. After some time she goes into the hospital, then dies and Ronald is left in the house. A family comes and buys the house and one of the kids find him. I don't remember how it ends. Does anyone else remember it, and how it ends?

Meghan



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Joyce Fetteroll

On May 13, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Meghan Anderson-Coates wrote:

> For some reason this made me think of the movie Bad Ronald.

Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Ronald

Plot description

Ronald Wilby (Scott Jacoby) is a nerdy high school youth with budding
artistic talent and a predilection for fantasy. His mother (Kim
Hunter of Planet of the Apes fame) is an over-bearing motherly type,
in need of surgery, of a similar stripe to those featured in Carrie
and the creation of Norman Bates. He is often shamed and mocked for
his behavior and mannerisms. His mother's plans are for him to become
a doctor and cure her illness.

One afternoon while asking Leanne Matthews out he is ridiculed by her
friends. As he runs home he knocks over her younger sister Carole.
Carole taunts Ronald, at which point he pushes her over,
inadvertently killing her. He hides the body and confesses to his
mother. Fearing the police will not believe that it was accidental,
Ronald and his mother fill in the door frame to the downstairs
bathroom and convert the closed off space to a living quarters for
Ronald. The plan is for him to hide in the room until the incident
blows over. He was only to come out when his mother said it was safe.
Mrs Wilby told the police that Ronald ran away.

Ronald's mother keeps paying attention to what the neighbors and
others are saying about the young girl's disappearance and tells
Ronald that when it's safe, he can return to a normal life. One
afternoon she is taken into a hospital for surgery, from which she
dies. In the meantime, Ronald has created a fantasy world in his own
head consisting of a prince and a princess that live happily until a
devil appears and a struggle begins.

Shortly after her death, the house is sold to a new family. After
they move in, the second act of the movie begins.

As Ronald needs food to eat, and begins to crave human interaction,
mysterious disappearances of food and odd noises are experienced by
the new family. The youngest daughter of the family becomes
identified with Ronald's princess and he identifies himself as the
prince. Darren Matthews, the boyfriend of the oldest daughter (who
was well liked by the family), and brother of the previously
mentioned Matthews girls becomes identified with the monster that
threatens their happiness. Ronald's goal is to "regain" his princess
and remove anything, including the members of her family, that stops
that dream from becoming reality.



Joyce

Katy JENNINGS

The Sandlot

Tuck Everlasting

Beetlejuice

Christmas Story

E.T.

Whale Rider

Brother Bear

The Outsiders

Goonies

Those are some of my favorites. They don't all have kid to kid
relationships, but some have great kid-adult relationships.
Katy

Ed Wendell

Holes - is a great movie my son loved / loves. (he'll still watch it and he is almost 14) It's about friends and family.

Lisa W.



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Sandra Dodd

--- In [email protected], "Ed Wendell" <ewendell@...> wrote:
>
> Holes - is a great movie my son loved / loves. (he'll still watch it and he is almost 14) It's
about friends and family.
>
> Lisa W.


I have a funny aversion to that movie. It's not geologically sound. There no earthly way for
there to be natural water on a high mesa like that, in the desert. I'll put it on the list, but I'm
sure it's a better movie for people who live far from such formations. And any kids who
love that movie should probably have it pointed out to them, if they go hiking, not to climb a
mesa looking for a spring. <g>

Sandra

Sandra Dodd

Katy, could you sort them for me, please?

I don't know them all so I can't say which should go in which list.
>
> The Sandlot
>
> Tuck Everlasting
>
> Beetlejuice
>
> Christmas Story
>
> E.T.
>
> Whale Rider
>
> Brother Bear
>
> The Outsiders
>
> Goonies
>
> Those are some of my favorites. They don't all have kid to kid
> relationships, but some have great kid-adult relationships.
> Katy
>

Katy

<<<<Katy, could you sort them for me, please?

I don't know them all so I can't say which should go in which list. >>>>


Sure!

Kid to kid relationships:

The Sandlot- group of friends, also some relationships with adults, both parents and others, but the story focuses on the kids

Brother Bear- 3 brothers, and an adopted brother of sorts. My favorite animated movie.

The Outsiders- group of friends

The Goonies- group of friends


Both kid-kid and kid-adult:

Whale Rider- Girl's relationship with her parents and grandparents, and her culture. Also some interaction between her and local kids. Awesome movie.

Tuck Everlasting- older kids, teens, love

Christmas Story- Boy and his brother growing up, lots of him ignoring his brother, some sweetness. Lots of interactions with friends. Many examples of not so great kid-parent relationships. Maybe my favorite movie, close anyway.

E.T.- Kid-kid, kid-alien, and kid-adult relationships. <g>

Beetlejuice- Mostly kid being ignored by parents, ghosts treat her nice. No other kids in movie I don't think.

It is funny that Holes was just being mentioned, Richard just found our long, long lost Holes movie in his uncle's truck tonight. I figured it was gone forever, almost threw away the case!

Katy

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Margaret

Strange connection, but Christmas story being on the list reminded me
that when I was a kid my siblings and I loved to watch one of Bill
Cosby's stand up shows, "Bill Cosby, Himself". It is on DVD now. He
spends a lot of time talking about his kids so there is a ton of
parent child stuff and some description of kid/kid stuff. I was one
of 5 kids and there was a sort of wildness of life and much wider
variety of interactions with so many of us, that the perfect 2 kid
families on tv seemed alien to our lives and this seemed more real and
we could identify with it more (even though no parent in my family
ever announced "There will be beatings!" as he describes his wife
doing). Not an unschooling familing, but in spite of the discipline
it seemed very real and loving as well as very very funny.



On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Katy <kjennings95@...> wrote:
> <<<<Katy, could you sort them for me, please?
>
> I don't know them all so I can't say which should go in which list. >>>>
>
> Sure!
>
> Kid to kid relationships:
>
> The Sandlot- group of friends, also some relationships with adults, both
> parents and others, but the story focuses on the kids
>
> Brother Bear- 3 brothers, and an adopted brother of sorts. My favorite
> animated movie.
>
> The Outsiders- group of friends
>
> The Goonies- group of friends
>
> Both kid-kid and kid-adult:
>
> Whale Rider- Girl's relationship with her parents and grandparents, and her
> culture. Also some interaction between her and local kids. Awesome movie.
>
> Tuck Everlasting- older kids, teens, love
>
> Christmas Story- Boy and his brother growing up, lots of him ignoring his
> brother, some sweetness. Lots of interactions with friends. Many examples of
> not so great kid-parent relationships. Maybe my favorite movie, close
> anyway.
>
> E.T.- Kid-kid, kid-alien, and kid-adult relationships. <g>
>
> Beetlejuice- Mostly kid being ignored by parents, ghosts treat her nice. No
> other kids in movie I don't think.
>
> It is funny that Holes was just being mentioned, Richard just found our
> long, long lost Holes movie in his uncle's truck tonight. I figured it was
> gone forever, almost threw away the case!
>
> Katy
>
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>
>

Meghan Anderson-Coates

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Whale Rider- Girl's relationship with her parents and grandparents, and her culture. Also some interaction between her and local kids. Awesome movie.

Tuck Everlasting- older kids, teens, love

Christmas Story- Boy and his brother growing up, lots of him ignoring his brother, some sweetness. Lots of interactions with friends. Many examples of not so great kid-parent relationships. Maybe my favorite movie, close anyway.

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Love these movies!! Whale Rider is awesome (and filmed in New Zealand so great scenery). Tuck Everlasting is such a fantastic film! I love the mom in it. The Christmas Story is really funny. We still say 'frageelee' whenever we see the word fragile <g>.




Meghan

"Hey diddle diddle the cat did a piddle, all over the bathroom mat.
The little dog laughed to see such fun, and piddled all over the cat."
~ Anon




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