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Kelly
My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean a kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a picture of him in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....
Thanks for any info.
Kathy
My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean a kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a picture of him in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....
Thanks for any info.
Kathy
Ken Cooper
He might be interested in this: http://www.utilikilts.com/.
Ken
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Subject: [AlwaysLearning] for Kelly L
Kelly
My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean a kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a picture of
him in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....
Thanks for any info.
Kathy
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Ken
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] for Kelly L
Kelly
My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean a kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a picture of
him in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....
Thanks for any info.
Kathy
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Sandra Dodd
-=-My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean
a kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a
picture of him in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....-=-
Hey, you can't use this list for private e-mail! <g>
Cameron wasn't wearing a man skirt. It was a regular old skirt and
they have them at the thrift stores near you. <g>
There will likely be photos of him among the many at the bottom of
this page http://sandradodd.com/abq
You might let your son know there's a construction company in which
all the men wear work kilts and work that way. It's in the U.S. but
I forget where.
http://www.skortman.com/
There's a site that mentions skirts for boys.
http://www.skortman.com/skortmanmainpage.html
Because it's "skort" I'm guessing they have a crotch too. Holly has
a couple of things like that and she really likes them.
There's a "mini-kilts" page.
If you go to google you'll find LOTS and lots of pages of kilts and
mens' skirts.
A friend of ours has a kilt he made of camouflage material. He wore
it to a wedding last year. I should be able to find a photo of him
in it, standing with Kirby...
Here's a German site with lots of fashion photographs of guys in
skirts of their design:
http://www.menintime.de/Web_2006/imag_de.php
On their "musicians" link is a drummer in a skirt. I guess it would
be pretty nice for drummers (which Cameron Lovejoy is!)
Sandra
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a kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a
picture of him in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....-=-
Hey, you can't use this list for private e-mail! <g>
Cameron wasn't wearing a man skirt. It was a regular old skirt and
they have them at the thrift stores near you. <g>
There will likely be photos of him among the many at the bottom of
this page http://sandradodd.com/abq
You might let your son know there's a construction company in which
all the men wear work kilts and work that way. It's in the U.S. but
I forget where.
http://www.skortman.com/
There's a site that mentions skirts for boys.
http://www.skortman.com/skortmanmainpage.html
Because it's "skort" I'm guessing they have a crotch too. Holly has
a couple of things like that and she really likes them.
There's a "mini-kilts" page.
If you go to google you'll find LOTS and lots of pages of kilts and
mens' skirts.
A friend of ours has a kilt he made of camouflage material. He wore
it to a wedding last year. I should be able to find a photo of him
in it, standing with Kirby...
Here's a German site with lots of fashion photographs of guys in
skirts of their design:
http://www.menintime.de/Web_2006/imag_de.php
On their "musicians" link is a drummer in a skirt. I guess it would
be pretty nice for drummers (which Cameron Lovejoy is!)
Sandra
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Sandra Dodd
-=-He might be interested in this: http://www.utilikilts.com/.-=-
WOW! Their photo gallery has 666 (and probably more) photos of
people who sent photos of them in the company's kilts from all over
the place. TONS of photos for a kid who's interested!! (and me <g>)
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WOW! Their photo gallery has 666 (and probably more) photos of
people who sent photos of them in the company's kilts from all over
the place. TONS of photos for a kid who's interested!! (and me <g>)
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Danielle Conger
Sandra Dodd wrote:
*love* my sarongs! They are very freeing, light and versatile.
--
~~Danielle
Emily (8), Julia (7), Sam (6)
http://www.organiclearning.blogspot.com
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> -=-He might be interested in this: http://www.utilikilts.com/.-=-There are also sarongs, which are traditional male and female skirts. I
> <http://www.utilikilts.com/.-=->
>
> WOW! Their photo gallery has 666 (and probably more) photos of
> people who sent photos of them in the company's kilts from all over
> the place. TONS of photos for a kid who's interested!! (and me <g>)
>
*love* my sarongs! They are very freeing, light and versatile.
--
~~Danielle
Emily (8), Julia (7), Sam (6)
http://www.organiclearning.blogspot.com
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Connections: ezine of unschooling and mindful parenting
http://connections.organiclearning.org
diana jenner
rodneykathy@... wrote:
a utilikilt on a couple of times.
:) diana
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> KellyMostly I remember Cameron wearing sarongs as skirts... James Coburn had
>
> My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean a kilt.
> I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a
> picture of him in it?
> Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....
>
a utilikilt on a couple of times.
:) diana
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-----Original Message-----
My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean a
kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a
picture of him
in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....
Thanks for any info.
-=-=-=-
We have lots of pictures of all my boys in skirts! <G>
I think Cam mostly wore a plain old "girl-skirt" at the conference last
year. I think he picked it up at a Goodwill store. <g>
He does have two kilts. Both are from Scotland. Both are Dunlap (my
maiden name) clan---one's a dress tartan and the other's a hunting
tartan. Both are beautiful colors! (not all are! <g>) Ben wears the
Citadel tartan that my father bought from a friend whose son went to
the Citadel. Cam wore his kilt to Carly's prom last year. He had all
the fancy formal gear to go with it and looked sooo handsome! <G>
Cam also bought a third sarong at last year's conference from Red
Serpent Batiks---one of the vendors last year. She's coming back this
year too, I think. I borrow Cam's sarongs regularly! <G>
I think James Coburn wore a utilikilt---or something like that. It
wasn't a Scottish kilt like I'm used to---it was something different.
Like a...well, utily kilt! <g> Cameron liked it.
I like that Cameron is comfortable enough with himself to wear skirts.
Hell, I just like that he's comfortable with himself! <bwg>
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org
School's goal is to prepare them to be anything they want. But the
process is so dullifying and kids haven't explored the possibilities
of what they could be that many set their sites as low as possible.
They go to college to get a job to buy stuff. ~Joyce Fetteroll
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My son has been talking about finding a "man-skirt". He might mean a
kilt.
I mentioned Cameron's skirt. (I was in St Louis). Do you have a
picture of him
in it?
Where did he get it? What is the origin/purpose....
Thanks for any info.
-=-=-=-
We have lots of pictures of all my boys in skirts! <G>
I think Cam mostly wore a plain old "girl-skirt" at the conference last
year. I think he picked it up at a Goodwill store. <g>
He does have two kilts. Both are from Scotland. Both are Dunlap (my
maiden name) clan---one's a dress tartan and the other's a hunting
tartan. Both are beautiful colors! (not all are! <g>) Ben wears the
Citadel tartan that my father bought from a friend whose son went to
the Citadel. Cam wore his kilt to Carly's prom last year. He had all
the fancy formal gear to go with it and looked sooo handsome! <G>
Cam also bought a third sarong at last year's conference from Red
Serpent Batiks---one of the vendors last year. She's coming back this
year too, I think. I borrow Cam's sarongs regularly! <G>
I think James Coburn wore a utilikilt---or something like that. It
wasn't a Scottish kilt like I'm used to---it was something different.
Like a...well, utily kilt! <g> Cameron liked it.
I like that Cameron is comfortable enough with himself to wear skirts.
Hell, I just like that he's comfortable with himself! <bwg>
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org
School's goal is to prepare them to be anything they want. But the
process is so dullifying and kids haven't explored the possibilities
of what they could be that many set their sites as low as possible.
They go to college to get a job to buy stuff. ~Joyce Fetteroll
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-=-We have lots of pictures of all my boys in skirts! <G>-=-
And?
Where?
If you only have paper I'd be willing to scan them for you and
probably nearer people might be too.
Sandra
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And?
Where?
If you only have paper I'd be willing to scan them for you and
probably nearer people might be too.
Sandra
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Sandra Dodd
I wrote and thought about skirts and kilts. I looked at websites. I
showed Kirby one. I said "You could totally pull this off." I had
been thinking earlier maybe Keith and Marty would like them, and
thought "Nah, they'd be too self conscious."
Then I drove out to the post office and was by myself a while.
Then I realized that most of today I was working on a new tunic for
Keith to wear under his armor this weekend at a tournament where he
and Marty will be... and that Marty AND Keith wear not skirts, but
dresses, basically. <g> I asked Marty when I got home if he ever
wore his tunics without pants and he said no, because most of his are
kinda short. But I KNOW Keith and Kirby have. Kirby has a nice red
full-skirted Viking tunic, and a nearly floor-length straighter one.
I made them myself.
But the names I used above were just for the benefit of readers
here. I was compartmentalizing my life, I guess, earlier today when
was thinking that Keith, Kirby and Marty don't wear skirts. But as
Gunwaldt, Magnus and Bardolf they sure do!
The diagram for wearing the full-skirted tunic is even on the SCA
section of my webpage. I had seen the diagram in a historical
costume book put out in the 1930's or so that UNM used to have, and I
photocopied that page and experimented with it until I got it to work
really well, and I never saw anyone else in the SCA figure it out.
In fact, when I showed it to someone once to correct something she
was planning to do, she declared it simply something that wouldn't
work. Odd thing, since Keith and I both had been wearing them for
years. <g>
I'm not recommending this for an everyday skirt for men in the 21st
century, except at SCA events. It's too early a period for
Renfaires. If you're putting on Hamlet, though consider this:
http://sandradodd.com/duckford/sewing (nearly to the bottom).
There's a photo of him in a long tunic, though not the total full-
skirted version, second photo here http://sandradodd.com/duckford/
gunwaldt and he's holding baby Holly. Baby Asta. (The upper photo
isn't Viking costumes, that was for a different thing.)
Sandra
showed Kirby one. I said "You could totally pull this off." I had
been thinking earlier maybe Keith and Marty would like them, and
thought "Nah, they'd be too self conscious."
Then I drove out to the post office and was by myself a while.
Then I realized that most of today I was working on a new tunic for
Keith to wear under his armor this weekend at a tournament where he
and Marty will be... and that Marty AND Keith wear not skirts, but
dresses, basically. <g> I asked Marty when I got home if he ever
wore his tunics without pants and he said no, because most of his are
kinda short. But I KNOW Keith and Kirby have. Kirby has a nice red
full-skirted Viking tunic, and a nearly floor-length straighter one.
I made them myself.
But the names I used above were just for the benefit of readers
here. I was compartmentalizing my life, I guess, earlier today when
was thinking that Keith, Kirby and Marty don't wear skirts. But as
Gunwaldt, Magnus and Bardolf they sure do!
The diagram for wearing the full-skirted tunic is even on the SCA
section of my webpage. I had seen the diagram in a historical
costume book put out in the 1930's or so that UNM used to have, and I
photocopied that page and experimented with it until I got it to work
really well, and I never saw anyone else in the SCA figure it out.
In fact, when I showed it to someone once to correct something she
was planning to do, she declared it simply something that wouldn't
work. Odd thing, since Keith and I both had been wearing them for
years. <g>
I'm not recommending this for an everyday skirt for men in the 21st
century, except at SCA events. It's too early a period for
Renfaires. If you're putting on Hamlet, though consider this:
http://sandradodd.com/duckford/sewing (nearly to the bottom).
There's a photo of him in a long tunic, though not the total full-
skirted version, second photo here http://sandradodd.com/duckford/
gunwaldt and he's holding baby Holly. Baby Asta. (The upper photo
isn't Viking costumes, that was for a different thing.)
Sandra
Sandra Dodd
-=-The diagram for wearing the full-skirted tunic is even on the SCA
section of my webpage. I had seen the diagram in a historical
costume book put out in the 1930's or so that UNM used to have, and I
photocopied that page and experimented with it until I got it to work
really well-=-
I used diagram twice for two different things. One was just a line
drawing talking about how they thought early Germanic/Saxon/Viking
men's clothes were cut or constructed. One type of garment, anyway.
And the other was the diagram I made that's on that page, which I
drew up one night when we let a friend borrow one of Keith's big-
skirted tunics, and weren't going to be with him when he dressed. He
brought the paper back with the tunic and I saved it in case I'd need
it again.
There are medieval paintings of men working in fields and cutting
wood and their tunics (not as full as this, but with knee-length
skirts) are tucked up into what seems like nothing. In those days
men didn't wear pants with a crotch. I guess they had some kinda
wrap (or not, but what looked like pants under those skirts were two
tubes of cloth�hosen, or braes�and they tied to a belt that was
inside. Not a belt like we think of with a big buckle and all, but
some kind of leather or cloth thing wrapped and tied around their
waist or hips. So the leggings were fastened to that. And they
could pull some of the skirt up so it was out of their way when they
worked. To them it would've made perfect sense. Then when they're
through working, they just pull the skirt and it falls back down the
right way. It's kinda like pulling up sleeves or rolling up pants
legs, or even now sometimes women wearing long dresses will pull them
up and tie the on the side or something.
I haven't seen people in the SCA do that either, but it's because
they're wearing pants of one sort or another because the crotchless
thing has a hard time taking hold in the minds of modern folk (for
everyday wear).
Sandra
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section of my webpage. I had seen the diagram in a historical
costume book put out in the 1930's or so that UNM used to have, and I
photocopied that page and experimented with it until I got it to work
really well-=-
I used diagram twice for two different things. One was just a line
drawing talking about how they thought early Germanic/Saxon/Viking
men's clothes were cut or constructed. One type of garment, anyway.
And the other was the diagram I made that's on that page, which I
drew up one night when we let a friend borrow one of Keith's big-
skirted tunics, and weren't going to be with him when he dressed. He
brought the paper back with the tunic and I saved it in case I'd need
it again.
There are medieval paintings of men working in fields and cutting
wood and their tunics (not as full as this, but with knee-length
skirts) are tucked up into what seems like nothing. In those days
men didn't wear pants with a crotch. I guess they had some kinda
wrap (or not, but what looked like pants under those skirts were two
tubes of cloth�hosen, or braes�and they tied to a belt that was
inside. Not a belt like we think of with a big buckle and all, but
some kind of leather or cloth thing wrapped and tied around their
waist or hips. So the leggings were fastened to that. And they
could pull some of the skirt up so it was out of their way when they
worked. To them it would've made perfect sense. Then when they're
through working, they just pull the skirt and it falls back down the
right way. It's kinda like pulling up sleeves or rolling up pants
legs, or even now sometimes women wearing long dresses will pull them
up and tie the on the side or something.
I haven't seen people in the SCA do that either, but it's because
they're wearing pants of one sort or another because the crotchless
thing has a hard time taking hold in the minds of modern folk (for
everyday wear).
Sandra
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra@...
-=-We have lots of pictures of all my boys in skirts! <G>-=-
And?
Where?
If you only have paper I'd be willing to scan them for you and
probably nearer people might be too.
-=-=-=-==
I'll get a few to you some way or another. I'm a bit slammed right now
to go hunting...
~Kelly
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From: Sandra@...
-=-We have lots of pictures of all my boys in skirts! <G>-=-
And?
Where?
If you only have paper I'd be willing to scan them for you and
probably nearer people might be too.
-=-=-=-==
I'll get a few to you some way or another. I'm a bit slammed right now
to go hunting...
~Kelly
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Found one:
http://sandradod.com/cameronskirt
It's a sarong, and looks good on him. Haven't found a photo of the
fuller skirt, but I hope I will!
Sandra
http://sandradod.com/cameronskirt
It's a sarong, and looks good on him. Haven't found a photo of the
fuller skirt, but I hope I will!
Sandra
Lesa McMahon-Lowe
love it! :) I love it when guys are different like that.
Lesa
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From: Sandra Dodd
Date: 08/06/06 22:23:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Cameron in a skirt
Found one:
http://sandradod.com/cameronskirt
It's a sarong, and looks good on him. Haven't found a photo of the
fuller skirt, but I hope I will!
Sandra
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Lesa
-------Original Message-------
From: Sandra Dodd
Date: 08/06/06 22:23:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Cameron in a skirt
Found one:
http://sandradod.com/cameronskirt
It's a sarong, and looks good on him. Haven't found a photo of the
fuller skirt, but I hope I will!
Sandra
Yahoo! Groups Links
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Sandra Dodd
-=-
http://sandradod.com/cameronskirt
-=-
Only I couldn't spell my own name:
http://sandradodd.com/cameronskirt
Sorry
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http://sandradod.com/cameronskirt
-=-
Only I couldn't spell my own name:
http://sandradodd.com/cameronskirt
Sorry
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diana jenner
Sandra Dodd wrote:
interviewed Hayden and I for his documentary... what a great memory!!
Thanks! ~diana :-D
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> http://sandradodd.com/cameronskirt <http://sandradodd.com/cameronskirt>***And there's diana in a poncho :) This was just moments before he
>
interviewed Hayden and I for his documentary... what a great memory!!
Thanks! ~diana :-D
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