When parents disagree
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Hi,
I'm learning alot about the various ways one can assist an animal or parent out of this world. My dad took the messy way of jumping off a building back in 1973. Poor guy had bad dreams.
We have all been sick, pucking( is this spelled right?) phonically it sounds bad. and such. Seems as soon as I get one set of sheets clean the next kid starts throwing up dinner. I think tomorrow will be barf free. Last in the house with it is sleeping away finally.
Last nigfht we were tired, grumpy. We had little food in the house yesterday and the 2 kids 3, 6 who feel better were starting to get the feed me or else climbing wrestling tired bit going. One asks for cookies. I remember no cookies but we bought gummy worms and he hasn't seen them for a while so I hand him some and continue making a really lousy dinner. Mac and cheese and raviolis with tomato sauce. Out of a can quick and easy. I only have 1 box of Mac. and all the kids want that. Oldest eats, wants more food, doesn't like the ravioli and asks for ice-cream. Tim got livid (H) (He wasn't DH yesterday). He has issues. His downs syndrom brother eats himself sick alot. His dad had a stroke and used to eat alot of ice cream. His best friend died really young from diabetes. Tim"s dad is diabetic. ISSUES.
Basically we disagree about the freedom of food choices and I was wondering do any of you have spouses who are not totally with you on all issues?
Mary H.
We did resolve it, but Tim really wants the kids to eat healthy. I think they do, much of the time, make good food choices.
I'm learning alot about the various ways one can assist an animal or parent out of this world. My dad took the messy way of jumping off a building back in 1973. Poor guy had bad dreams.
We have all been sick, pucking( is this spelled right?) phonically it sounds bad. and such. Seems as soon as I get one set of sheets clean the next kid starts throwing up dinner. I think tomorrow will be barf free. Last in the house with it is sleeping away finally.
Last nigfht we were tired, grumpy. We had little food in the house yesterday and the 2 kids 3, 6 who feel better were starting to get the feed me or else climbing wrestling tired bit going. One asks for cookies. I remember no cookies but we bought gummy worms and he hasn't seen them for a while so I hand him some and continue making a really lousy dinner. Mac and cheese and raviolis with tomato sauce. Out of a can quick and easy. I only have 1 box of Mac. and all the kids want that. Oldest eats, wants more food, doesn't like the ravioli and asks for ice-cream. Tim got livid (H) (He wasn't DH yesterday). He has issues. His downs syndrom brother eats himself sick alot. His dad had a stroke and used to eat alot of ice cream. His best friend died really young from diabetes. Tim"s dad is diabetic. ISSUES.
Basically we disagree about the freedom of food choices and I was wondering do any of you have spouses who are not totally with you on all issues?
Mary H.
We did resolve it, but Tim really wants the kids to eat healthy. I think they do, much of the time, make good food choices.
BADOLBILZ
Hey Mary, sorry to hear everyone feels sick. I've always said and I
stand by it today, I'll take a houseful of head colds any day over the
stomach flu.
As far as food issues and food freedom, I myself feel that young
children need to be guided and encouraged with what they eat. I try to
not have much "junk" food in the house but if it is here (thanks to dh)
the girls would choose a bag of Cheetos over dinner. I would let that
slide on night maybe, but when they begin to expect that night after
night I feel it would be wrong not to step in and say no. If children
are supposed to a protein daily, and your 2 yr old NEVER chooses
anything with protein, what's a mom to do. Sometimes kids don't have
the knowledge to make the right choices. I try very hard to give them
choices and options, but in the end it's my job to make sure they are
healthy and growing.
I do think that coming off a stomach flu, when your stomach can be
tender and the body needs to catch up on lost calories, that's probably
a good time to be relaxed about what they're eating.
My sister's fil has diabetes and is in the last stages of the disease.
It's very sad. I think because it is genetic, families with it need to
be careful. Maybe if you read up on it and spoke with doctors about
what threat diabetes is to your family, you could have information to
show you dh that he could relax a little.
Good luck and feel better! Heidi Case
maryfhickman@... wrote:
stand by it today, I'll take a houseful of head colds any day over the
stomach flu.
As far as food issues and food freedom, I myself feel that young
children need to be guided and encouraged with what they eat. I try to
not have much "junk" food in the house but if it is here (thanks to dh)
the girls would choose a bag of Cheetos over dinner. I would let that
slide on night maybe, but when they begin to expect that night after
night I feel it would be wrong not to step in and say no. If children
are supposed to a protein daily, and your 2 yr old NEVER chooses
anything with protein, what's a mom to do. Sometimes kids don't have
the knowledge to make the right choices. I try very hard to give them
choices and options, but in the end it's my job to make sure they are
healthy and growing.
I do think that coming off a stomach flu, when your stomach can be
tender and the body needs to catch up on lost calories, that's probably
a good time to be relaxed about what they're eating.
My sister's fil has diabetes and is in the last stages of the disease.
It's very sad. I think because it is genetic, families with it need to
be careful. Maybe if you read up on it and spoke with doctors about
what threat diabetes is to your family, you could have information to
show you dh that he could relax a little.
Good luck and feel better! Heidi Case
maryfhickman@... wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm learning alot about the various ways one can assist an animal or parent out of this world. My dad took the messy way of jumping off a building back in 1973. Poor guy had bad dreams.
>
>We have all been sick, pucking( is this spelled right?) phonically it sounds bad. and such. Seems as soon as I get one set of sheets clean the next kid starts throwing up dinner. I think tomorrow will be barf free. Last in the house with it is sleeping away finally.
>
>Last nigfht we were tired, grumpy. We had little food in the house yesterday and the 2 kids 3, 6 who feel better were starting to get the feed me or else climbing wrestling tired bit going. One asks for cookies. I remember no cookies but we bought gummy worms and he hasn't seen them for a while so I hand him some and continue making a really lousy dinner. Mac and cheese and raviolis with tomato sauce. Out of a can quick and easy. I only have 1 box of Mac. and all the kids want that. Oldest eats, wants more food, doesn't like the ravioli and asks for ice-cream. Tim got livid (H) (He wasn't DH yesterday). He has issues. His downs syndrom brother eats himself sick alot. His dad had a stroke and used to eat alot of ice cream. His best friend died really young from diabetes. Tim"s dad is diabetic. ISSUES.
>
>Basically we disagree about the freedom of food choices and I was wondering do any of you have spouses who are not totally with you on all issues?
>
>Mary H.
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>We did resolve it, but Tim really wants the kids to eat healthy. I think they do, much of the time, make good food choices.
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In a message dated 4/7/2003 1:49:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
maryfhickman@... writes:
are now adults.) My husband's mother is a diabetic, along with several of
her 9 siblings, and her father was, too. My husband has over half of the
risk factors for developing Type II (adult onset) diabetes. It is clearly a
disease brought about by making bad food choices over a long period of time.
It seems to me that making good food choices is harder the more insulin
resistance you develop, so it's a vicious cycle.
I do not want my son or my husband to be a diabetic. My husband and I have
spent a lot of time learning about the disease and talking about it with an
eye towards prevention. I talk to my son about listening to his body when
he's hungry, and I help him think about the food he's eaten lately, and think
about what opportunities he's going to have to eat in the near future. (Are
we going out to dinner? What will he eat at company picnic tomorrow?) On
occasion I ask if he's had any protein lately, especially if he's acting
listless or grumpy. He's done some experimenting with food and the way he
feels afterward. Donuts, he's discovered, make him very sleepy or cranky a
few hours later.
It's okay with him that I ask him questions about what he's eaten or plans to
eat. He knows about diabetes and that he could be at risk, and he knows
about a lot of other things that could happen as a result of making choices
with his food (obesity, GERD which also seems to be in his family, etc.).
Still, I have rarely if ever said he couldn't have something he wanted, and I
don't label food as "good" or "bad". He has a varied palate, likes to try
new things, eats way more fruit and vegetables out of his own volition than
his friend who has been raised vegetarian! He's asked for smoked salmon
because it looked good in the store tho he'd never tried it, and begged for 2
weeks for me to take him to try lobster. (The smell of seafood makes me
nauseated, I was waiting for Dad to come back from a trip so HE could take
him!) The other day we were at the Blue Plate for lunch and he didn't want
anything except banana pudding, so we ordered it. For years the only thing
he would eat at Mexican restaurants was the cheese dip. The other night at
El Nopal he ordered a tamale with rice and beans and cleaned his plate.
So, I think the whole freedom of food choices thing is working. My husband
has been harder to convince, but he learned with the older two, who are his
step-sons, so the youngest has been spared. Once, soon after we were
married, he tried to get in a battle of wills over food with my middle son.
Jon eventually complied and ate the food, but as soon as he left the table,
threw it up on the kitchen floor. My husband will tell you he was then cured
of the battle-of-wills part.
Allowing them to making their own food choices and listening to their bodies
was a little harder for him. I asked him to observe the way his mother eats.
Her blood sugar is controlled with pills. Yet her house is filled with
sweet things. She cooks lots of good foods, and cans her own vegetables.
But it's as if some doctor told her she could have sweets AS LONG AS she eats
the good stuff, too. So she eats a few green beans and a small piece of
chicken breast, and then loads her plate up with starchy pasta and potatoes
and her sugar-free cakes (which are made with flour which also turns to sugar
in the blood). I'm not blaming her so much as observing this with my own
eyes. I believe the disease causes her cravings for sweets, and that's very
hard to fight with simple willpower. The way she cooks is the way my husband
was raised. I asked him if he thought that was working? (Like Dr. Phil,
"How's that working for ya?") Did it work for him as a child? Is it working
for her now?
He couldn't say that it worked. And he realized he didn't have anything to
lose by changing it around for his child.
As with most of the changes unschooling brings to a family, it takes evidence
seen with their own eyes over time to convince some people. I asked my
husband to trust me, and he did, and he became convinced.
Tuck
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maryfhickman@... writes:
> Tim"s dad is diabetic. ISSUES.We have always had freedom of food choices for our youngest. (The older two
>
> Basically we disagree about the freedom of food choices and I was wondering
> do any of you have spouses who are not totally with you on all issues?
>
>
are now adults.) My husband's mother is a diabetic, along with several of
her 9 siblings, and her father was, too. My husband has over half of the
risk factors for developing Type II (adult onset) diabetes. It is clearly a
disease brought about by making bad food choices over a long period of time.
It seems to me that making good food choices is harder the more insulin
resistance you develop, so it's a vicious cycle.
I do not want my son or my husband to be a diabetic. My husband and I have
spent a lot of time learning about the disease and talking about it with an
eye towards prevention. I talk to my son about listening to his body when
he's hungry, and I help him think about the food he's eaten lately, and think
about what opportunities he's going to have to eat in the near future. (Are
we going out to dinner? What will he eat at company picnic tomorrow?) On
occasion I ask if he's had any protein lately, especially if he's acting
listless or grumpy. He's done some experimenting with food and the way he
feels afterward. Donuts, he's discovered, make him very sleepy or cranky a
few hours later.
It's okay with him that I ask him questions about what he's eaten or plans to
eat. He knows about diabetes and that he could be at risk, and he knows
about a lot of other things that could happen as a result of making choices
with his food (obesity, GERD which also seems to be in his family, etc.).
Still, I have rarely if ever said he couldn't have something he wanted, and I
don't label food as "good" or "bad". He has a varied palate, likes to try
new things, eats way more fruit and vegetables out of his own volition than
his friend who has been raised vegetarian! He's asked for smoked salmon
because it looked good in the store tho he'd never tried it, and begged for 2
weeks for me to take him to try lobster. (The smell of seafood makes me
nauseated, I was waiting for Dad to come back from a trip so HE could take
him!) The other day we were at the Blue Plate for lunch and he didn't want
anything except banana pudding, so we ordered it. For years the only thing
he would eat at Mexican restaurants was the cheese dip. The other night at
El Nopal he ordered a tamale with rice and beans and cleaned his plate.
So, I think the whole freedom of food choices thing is working. My husband
has been harder to convince, but he learned with the older two, who are his
step-sons, so the youngest has been spared. Once, soon after we were
married, he tried to get in a battle of wills over food with my middle son.
Jon eventually complied and ate the food, but as soon as he left the table,
threw it up on the kitchen floor. My husband will tell you he was then cured
of the battle-of-wills part.
Allowing them to making their own food choices and listening to their bodies
was a little harder for him. I asked him to observe the way his mother eats.
Her blood sugar is controlled with pills. Yet her house is filled with
sweet things. She cooks lots of good foods, and cans her own vegetables.
But it's as if some doctor told her she could have sweets AS LONG AS she eats
the good stuff, too. So she eats a few green beans and a small piece of
chicken breast, and then loads her plate up with starchy pasta and potatoes
and her sugar-free cakes (which are made with flour which also turns to sugar
in the blood). I'm not blaming her so much as observing this with my own
eyes. I believe the disease causes her cravings for sweets, and that's very
hard to fight with simple willpower. The way she cooks is the way my husband
was raised. I asked him if he thought that was working? (Like Dr. Phil,
"How's that working for ya?") Did it work for him as a child? Is it working
for her now?
He couldn't say that it worked. And he realized he didn't have anything to
lose by changing it around for his child.
As with most of the changes unschooling brings to a family, it takes evidence
seen with their own eyes over time to convince some people. I asked my
husband to trust me, and he did, and he became convinced.
Tuck
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In a message dated 4/7/03 6:12:16 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Basically we disagree about the freedom of food choices and I was
wondering do any of you have spouses who are not totally with you on all
issues? >>
yep. Sure do.
But he is respectful of me and our relationship is ultimately more important
to him.
He trusts that I love the kids wholeheartedly, that I wouldn't do anything
harmful by choice and that I am very dedicated to their well being.
He is distracted by work and is NOT as available, and he knows this.
So he doesn't say anything about the way I do things (that took some doing)
and I don't jump all over him when he handles things in a lame method.
I am the buffer zone.
If he reacts badly to the kids, I will say something more general like "it's
alright, Mom will help you clean that up, let's stay calm" if he's grumpy
about a mess.
I am the calm, nice buffer. And that seems to work WAY better than trying to
tell him he handled something wrong.
And when he is super nice and handling the kids joyfully, I always comment on
how happy it makes me to see them enjoying each other, or what a wonderful
Dad I think he is.
This has brought us a long ways in a short time.
With food, I am with the kids most of the time, so that isn't an issue.
He pretty much just rolls his eyes and stays out of it.
Yesterday, Sierra was asking for us to take the training wheels off her bike.
Mark said "on your Birthday we'll do it, you're not ready yet" (her Birthday
is this month).
I CRINGED when I heard that come out of his mouth, but ignored it and asked
him to take them off. He repeated the inane comment. I simply said "But she
wants them off NOW honey, does it really make any difference?"
And then kept working in the garden, biting my tongue the whole time.
About 10 minutes later Sierra comes running up proudly proclaiming that Daddy
took the training wheels off. I smiled to myself and praised the unschooling
Gods.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
[email protected] writes:
<< Basically we disagree about the freedom of food choices and I was
wondering do any of you have spouses who are not totally with you on all
issues? >>
yep. Sure do.
But he is respectful of me and our relationship is ultimately more important
to him.
He trusts that I love the kids wholeheartedly, that I wouldn't do anything
harmful by choice and that I am very dedicated to their well being.
He is distracted by work and is NOT as available, and he knows this.
So he doesn't say anything about the way I do things (that took some doing)
and I don't jump all over him when he handles things in a lame method.
I am the buffer zone.
If he reacts badly to the kids, I will say something more general like "it's
alright, Mom will help you clean that up, let's stay calm" if he's grumpy
about a mess.
I am the calm, nice buffer. And that seems to work WAY better than trying to
tell him he handled something wrong.
And when he is super nice and handling the kids joyfully, I always comment on
how happy it makes me to see them enjoying each other, or what a wonderful
Dad I think he is.
This has brought us a long ways in a short time.
With food, I am with the kids most of the time, so that isn't an issue.
He pretty much just rolls his eyes and stays out of it.
Yesterday, Sierra was asking for us to take the training wheels off her bike.
Mark said "on your Birthday we'll do it, you're not ready yet" (her Birthday
is this month).
I CRINGED when I heard that come out of his mouth, but ignored it and asked
him to take them off. He repeated the inane comment. I simply said "But she
wants them off NOW honey, does it really make any difference?"
And then kept working in the garden, biting my tongue the whole time.
About 10 minutes later Sierra comes running up proudly proclaiming that Daddy
took the training wheels off. I smiled to myself and praised the unschooling
Gods.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
Dana
I can't imagine anyone's 2 year old NOT getting protein. Breast milk has
protein, soy milk has protein, cow's Mk has protein....hell, potatoes have
protein. If you make decisions for him/her now, how will they ever learn to
listen to their body? *Maybe* they don't need as much protein *every day*
as *you* think they do! ;)
Dana
protein, soy milk has protein, cow's Mk has protein....hell, potatoes have
protein. If you make decisions for him/her now, how will they ever learn to
listen to their body? *Maybe* they don't need as much protein *every day*
as *you* think they do! ;)
Dana
----- Original Message -----
From: "BADOLBILZ" <ynxn96@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] When parents disagree
> Hey Mary, sorry to hear everyone feels sick. I've always said and I
> stand by it today, I'll take a houseful of head colds any day over the
> stomach flu.
>
> As far as food issues and food freedom, I myself feel that young
> children need to be guided and encouraged with what they eat. I try to
> not have much "junk" food in the house but if it is here (thanks to dh)
> the girls would choose a bag of Cheetos over dinner. I would let that
> slide on night maybe, but when they begin to expect that night after
> night I feel it would be wrong not to step in and say no. If children
> are supposed to a protein daily, and your 2 yr old NEVER chooses
> anything with protein, what's a mom to do. Sometimes kids don't have
> the knowledge to make the right choices. I try very hard to give them
> choices and options, but in the end it's my job to make sure they are
> healthy and growing.
>
> I do think that coming off a stomach flu, when your stomach can be
> tender and the body needs to catch up on lost calories, that's probably
> a good time to be relaxed about what they're eating.
>
> My sister's fil has diabetes and is in the last stages of the disease.
> It's very sad. I think because it is genetic, families with it need to
> be careful. Maybe if you read up on it and spoke with doctors about
> what threat diabetes is to your family, you could have information to
> show you dh that he could relax a little.
>
> Good luck and feel better! Heidi Case
>
> maryfhickman@... wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm learning alot about the various ways one can assist an animal or
parent out of this world. My dad took the messy way of jumping off a
building back in 1973. Poor guy had bad dreams.
> >
> >We have all been sick, pucking( is this spelled right?) phonically it
sounds bad. and such. Seems as soon as I get one set of sheets clean the
next kid starts throwing up dinner. I think tomorrow will be barf free. Last
in the house with it is sleeping away finally.
> >
> >Last nigfht we were tired, grumpy. We had little food in the house
yesterday and the 2 kids 3, 6 who feel better were starting to get the feed
me or else climbing wrestling tired bit going. One asks for cookies. I
remember no cookies but we bought gummy worms and he hasn't seen them for a
while so I hand him some and continue making a really lousy dinner. Mac and
cheese and raviolis with tomato sauce. Out of a can quick and easy. I only
have 1 box of Mac. and all the kids want that. Oldest eats, wants more food,
doesn't like the ravioli and asks for ice-cream. Tim got livid (H) (He
wasn't DH yesterday). He has issues. His downs syndrom brother eats himself
sick alot. His dad had a stroke and used to eat alot of ice cream. His best
friend died really young from diabetes. Tim"s dad is diabetic. ISSUES.
> >
> >Basically we disagree about the freedom of food choices and I was
wondering do any of you have spouses who are not totally with you on all
issues?
> >
> >Mary H.
> >
> >We did resolve it, but Tim really wants the kids to eat healthy. I think
they do, much of the time, make good food choices.
> >
> >
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In a message dated 4/7/03 9:49:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ynxn96@... writes:
discussion. I feel that if the bag of Cheetos were always there, there was
never a fear of Mom saying no, never a fear that this was only a short stay
for the Cheetos bag, the child would eventually treat the Cheetos like any
other food. Just as likely to choose an apple as a bag of Cheetos. It would
loose it's appeal.
Just my thoughts. IT works in our house.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
ynxn96@... writes:
> I try toJust to offer another opinion, not trying to start another long food
> not have much "junk" food in the house but if it is here (thanks to dh)
> the girls would choose a bag of Cheetos over dinner. I would let that
> slide on night maybe, but when they begin to expect that night after
> night I feel it would be wrong not to step in and say no.
discussion. I feel that if the bag of Cheetos were always there, there was
never a fear of Mom saying no, never a fear that this was only a short stay
for the Cheetos bag, the child would eventually treat the Cheetos like any
other food. Just as likely to choose an apple as a bag of Cheetos. It would
loose it's appeal.
Just my thoughts. IT works in our house.
Pam G.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Pamela Sorooshian
On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 09:09 AM, genant2@... wrote:
dining room table for a couple of weeks now.
I'm the only one who overeats them and even I'm satiated.
-pam
> I feel that if the bag of Cheetos were always there, there wasWe have girl scout cookies going stale - opened boxes sitting on the
> never a fear of Mom saying no, never a fear that this was only a short
> stay
> for the Cheetos bag, the child would eventually treat the Cheetos like
> any
> other food. Just as likely to choose an apple as a bag of Cheetos.
> It would
> loose it's appeal.
> Just my thoughts. IT works in our house.
dining room table for a couple of weeks now.
I'm the only one who overeats them and even I'm satiated.
-pam
Dana
Just as likely to choose an apple as a bag of Cheetos. It would
now she relishes trying new foods. Likes candy, but likes other stuff, too.
(she was the "experiment child" as I've heard some of you say, and I do
remember once asking her to eat her spinach....it was many years before she
would eat it again....but we're past that now). Younger dd, who has never
had food of any kind denied or policed, uses candy to decorate with, not to
eat. Sometimes a meal is a bag of cheetos, and sometimes it's a block of
tofu, and often it's a bag of cut-up vegetables. I eat the same way--I will
eat the same meal every day for a week, and then move on to something else
next week.
Dana
> loose it's appeal.Works here, too. Older dd would only eat mac and cheese when she was 3, and
> Just my thoughts. IT works in our house.
> Pam G.
now she relishes trying new foods. Likes candy, but likes other stuff, too.
(she was the "experiment child" as I've heard some of you say, and I do
remember once asking her to eat her spinach....it was many years before she
would eat it again....but we're past that now). Younger dd, who has never
had food of any kind denied or policed, uses candy to decorate with, not to
eat. Sometimes a meal is a bag of cheetos, and sometimes it's a block of
tofu, and often it's a bag of cut-up vegetables. I eat the same way--I will
eat the same meal every day for a week, and then move on to something else
next week.
Dana
BADOLBILZ
That's an interesting idea. It makes so much sense that the junk food
would loose it's appeal if it wasn't a reward or a treat, it just simple
was. Thank you. This will be kind of fun because it will REALLY freak
out my mom! Heidi Case
genant2@... wrote:
would loose it's appeal if it wasn't a reward or a treat, it just simple
was. Thank you. This will be kind of fun because it will REALLY freak
out my mom! Heidi Case
genant2@... wrote:
>In a message dated 4/7/03 9:49:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>ynxn96@... writes:
>
>
>
>>I try to
>>not have much "junk" food in the house but if it is here (thanks to dh)
>>the girls would choose a bag of Cheetos over dinner. I would let that
>>slide on night maybe, but when they begin to expect that night after
>>night I feel it would be wrong not to step in and say no.
>>
>>
>
>Just to offer another opinion, not trying to start another long food
>discussion. I feel that if the bag of Cheetos were always there, there was
>never a fear of Mom saying no, never a fear that this was only a short stay
>for the Cheetos bag, the child would eventually treat the Cheetos like any
>other food. Just as likely to choose an apple as a bag of Cheetos. It would
>loose it's appeal.
>Just my thoughts. IT works in our house.
>Pam G.
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/8/03 4:33:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< I comment. I mean - my kids expect me to give them information and if
they are filling up on tortilla chips and I think they might not
realize that they have almost no protein and that maybe they need some
protein, they'll hear from me. Not in a restrictive shaming way - but
in a, "Do you want an egg salad sandwich or maybe just a hardboiled egg
to go with that? You can probably use the protein." >>
If I see the kids wolfing down on the tortilla chips when I know they're
really hungry, I remind them that it takes a LOT of chips to get full, but if
they'll let me know what MEAL type food they want I'll make something more
filling.
I bought two cartons of chocolate pudding today, they're both gone tonight. I
was irritated only because *I* wanted some! I complained that they could
have at least saved some for me...but then I realized I hadn't bought it in a
very long time.
They hadn't asked either, so it was just something we hadn't thought about.
But it was a BIG sign that we needed to buy more for Trevor (he ate most of
the two containers) so he wouldn't feel needy about it!!
He still has some obsessive behavior about foods I used to say NO about.
But it's cool to see the difference and amazing how in touch he is with his
body.
He's the first to cut back on certain foods when he doesn't feel well.
And tonight he asked about peanuts. Said they made him feel awful.
It was one of the foods he tested sensitive to many years ago.
He knew it without me reminding him or limiting that food in any way. He just
FEELS it.
Cool.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
[email protected] writes:
<< I comment. I mean - my kids expect me to give them information and if
they are filling up on tortilla chips and I think they might not
realize that they have almost no protein and that maybe they need some
protein, they'll hear from me. Not in a restrictive shaming way - but
in a, "Do you want an egg salad sandwich or maybe just a hardboiled egg
to go with that? You can probably use the protein." >>
If I see the kids wolfing down on the tortilla chips when I know they're
really hungry, I remind them that it takes a LOT of chips to get full, but if
they'll let me know what MEAL type food they want I'll make something more
filling.
I bought two cartons of chocolate pudding today, they're both gone tonight. I
was irritated only because *I* wanted some! I complained that they could
have at least saved some for me...but then I realized I hadn't bought it in a
very long time.
They hadn't asked either, so it was just something we hadn't thought about.
But it was a BIG sign that we needed to buy more for Trevor (he ate most of
the two containers) so he wouldn't feel needy about it!!
He still has some obsessive behavior about foods I used to say NO about.
But it's cool to see the difference and amazing how in touch he is with his
body.
He's the first to cut back on certain foods when he doesn't feel well.
And tonight he asked about peanuts. Said they made him feel awful.
It was one of the foods he tested sensitive to many years ago.
He knew it without me reminding him or limiting that food in any way. He just
FEELS it.
Cool.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/8/03 4:33:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< For awhile now I've had the breakfast cereals down where they can help
themselves. I'm going to do the little baggies and put them low down in
the fridge. >>
Something that works well around here is putting out a platter of cut up
fruit and veggies.
Part of the reason that snack foods are so appealing to kids, is it's very
easily accessible. Make healthy choices just as readily available and you'll
be surprised what your kids will eat over the course of a day.
Small sandwiches, washed, prepared fruits, veggies and dips, nuts, dried
fruit etc .... can all be just as quick as chips or cookies.
Make homemade cookies for better ingredients if you're really concerned, buy
chips made without hydrogenated oils.
I've found many creative ways to bring healthier foods into their lives
without controlling their choices.
And if they want something loaded with dye, sugar and preservatives I read
the label to them and put it into the cart!! :)
They are learning to be label readers, aware of food choices but not shamed
or guilted for enjoying the many choices in our society. One of their
favorite foods?
TOFU! You should see the weird looks we get when we're in the produce
section and Sierra shouts "Tofu, Tofu, Tofu Mom! Please get Tofu!!!"
Too funny.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
[email protected] writes:
<< For awhile now I've had the breakfast cereals down where they can help
themselves. I'm going to do the little baggies and put them low down in
the fridge. >>
Something that works well around here is putting out a platter of cut up
fruit and veggies.
Part of the reason that snack foods are so appealing to kids, is it's very
easily accessible. Make healthy choices just as readily available and you'll
be surprised what your kids will eat over the course of a day.
Small sandwiches, washed, prepared fruits, veggies and dips, nuts, dried
fruit etc .... can all be just as quick as chips or cookies.
Make homemade cookies for better ingredients if you're really concerned, buy
chips made without hydrogenated oils.
I've found many creative ways to bring healthier foods into their lives
without controlling their choices.
And if they want something loaded with dye, sugar and preservatives I read
the label to them and put it into the cart!! :)
They are learning to be label readers, aware of food choices but not shamed
or guilted for enjoying the many choices in our society. One of their
favorite foods?
TOFU! You should see the weird looks we get when we're in the produce
section and Sierra shouts "Tofu, Tofu, Tofu Mom! Please get Tofu!!!"
Too funny.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
Bill and Diane
My kids are pretty small and don't reach everything, but I've found when
they ask for the third or fourth handful of M&M's or raisins or
something, if I'll make a turkey sandwich and quarter it and just lay it
there without a word (after I fulfilled the request, you understand),
it'll usually disappear pretty quick, sometimes before the "goodies" are
gone.
:-) Diane
they ask for the third or fourth handful of M&M's or raisins or
something, if I'll make a turkey sandwich and quarter it and just lay it
there without a word (after I fulfilled the request, you understand),
it'll usually disappear pretty quick, sometimes before the "goodies" are
gone.
:-) Diane
>If I see the kids wolfing down on the tortilla chips when I know they're
>really hungry, I remind them that it takes a LOT of chips to get full, but if
>they'll let me know what MEAL type food they want I'll make something more
>filling.
>