Re: [AlwaysLearning] Digest Number 522
Julie Stauffer
Hi Lisa,
My ds, now 9, went to school for less than 4 months in Kindergarten, then
came home for a year of school-at-home before we finally found unschooling.
I don't know if I can ever make up to Zach what I did to him by trying to
educate him. I do know that it took well over a year before he would even
let me read to him again. He still refuses anything that looks academic but
he IS learning in leaps and bounds.
Zach loves to play pool and baseball. He completely understands how forces
act on objects and how that makes the objects behave. So he understands a
lot of physics just doesn't use words like torsion and friction, instead we
talk about "putting English on the ball" or "banking the shot".
Zach is not a pleasure reader but did spend a lot of time up in his room
until he figured out how to read a Dr. Zeus book. I was so surprised when
he proudly offered to read it to me. He likes to do math problems in his
head for fun. He will just ask out of the blue "Does 8 plus 8 equal 16?"
Yes. "Then 9 plus 9 is 18, right?" Yes.
What I have noticed though is the sure way to guarantee Zach will clam up is
to try to educate or pressure him in any way. He is still very sensitive to
the pain that schooling caused him.
May I suggest simply have fun with your son. Don't do "field trips" but
just go hang out at the zoo with your son, like you would with anybody that
you like to spend time with. Play. Go shopping. Build a tree house. Just
do fun stuff and make sure that you are allowing him to be fully involved,
that you are not taking over (like good homeschool moms are very capable of
doing). But most of all, just breathe, relax and remember that life really
is good.
Julie
My ds, now 9, went to school for less than 4 months in Kindergarten, then
came home for a year of school-at-home before we finally found unschooling.
I don't know if I can ever make up to Zach what I did to him by trying to
educate him. I do know that it took well over a year before he would even
let me read to him again. He still refuses anything that looks academic but
he IS learning in leaps and bounds.
Zach loves to play pool and baseball. He completely understands how forces
act on objects and how that makes the objects behave. So he understands a
lot of physics just doesn't use words like torsion and friction, instead we
talk about "putting English on the ball" or "banking the shot".
Zach is not a pleasure reader but did spend a lot of time up in his room
until he figured out how to read a Dr. Zeus book. I was so surprised when
he proudly offered to read it to me. He likes to do math problems in his
head for fun. He will just ask out of the blue "Does 8 plus 8 equal 16?"
Yes. "Then 9 plus 9 is 18, right?" Yes.
What I have noticed though is the sure way to guarantee Zach will clam up is
to try to educate or pressure him in any way. He is still very sensitive to
the pain that schooling caused him.
May I suggest simply have fun with your son. Don't do "field trips" but
just go hang out at the zoo with your son, like you would with anybody that
you like to spend time with. Play. Go shopping. Build a tree house. Just
do fun stuff and make sure that you are allowing him to be fully involved,
that you are not taking over (like good homeschool moms are very capable of
doing). But most of all, just breathe, relax and remember that life really
is good.
Julie
Lisa Hardiman
You know I read everything on Homeschooling I could get my hands on for
several years but just having experienced a 1 ½ did me and Nate lots of
damage. I am self educated from teen years and have unschooled my way
through life why was it so hard to turn around for my son? But it is
coming as I explore. lsia
-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Stauffer [mailto:jnjstau@...]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Digest Number 522
Hi Lisa,
My ds, now 9, went to school for less than 4 months in Kindergarten,
then
came home for a year of school-at-home before we finally found
unschooling.
I don't know if I can ever make up to Zach what I did to him by trying
to
educate him. I do know that it took well over a year before he would
even
let me read to him again. He still refuses anything that looks academic
but
he IS learning in leaps and bounds.
Zach loves to play pool and baseball. He completely understands how
forces
act on objects and how that makes the objects behave. So he understands
a
lot of physics just doesn't use words like torsion and friction, instead
we
talk about "putting English on the ball" or "banking the shot".
Zach is not a pleasure reader but did spend a lot of time up in his room
until he figured out how to read a Dr. Zeus book. I was so surprised
when
he proudly offered to read it to me. He likes to do math problems in
his
head for fun. He will just ask out of the blue "Does 8 plus 8 equal
16?"
Yes. "Then 9 plus 9 is 18, right?" Yes.
What I have noticed though is the sure way to guarantee Zach will clam
up is
to try to educate or pressure him in any way. He is still very
sensitive to
the pain that schooling caused him.
May I suggest simply have fun with your son. Don't do "field trips" but
just go hang out at the zoo with your son, like you would with anybody
that
you like to spend time with. Play. Go shopping. Build a tree house.
Just
do fun stuff and make sure that you are allowing him to be fully
involved,
that you are not taking over (like good homeschool moms are very capable
of
doing). But most of all, just breathe, relax and remember that life
really
is good.
Julie
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several years but just having experienced a 1 ½ did me and Nate lots of
damage. I am self educated from teen years and have unschooled my way
through life why was it so hard to turn around for my son? But it is
coming as I explore. lsia
-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Stauffer [mailto:jnjstau@...]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 11:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Digest Number 522
Hi Lisa,
My ds, now 9, went to school for less than 4 months in Kindergarten,
then
came home for a year of school-at-home before we finally found
unschooling.
I don't know if I can ever make up to Zach what I did to him by trying
to
educate him. I do know that it took well over a year before he would
even
let me read to him again. He still refuses anything that looks academic
but
he IS learning in leaps and bounds.
Zach loves to play pool and baseball. He completely understands how
forces
act on objects and how that makes the objects behave. So he understands
a
lot of physics just doesn't use words like torsion and friction, instead
we
talk about "putting English on the ball" or "banking the shot".
Zach is not a pleasure reader but did spend a lot of time up in his room
until he figured out how to read a Dr. Zeus book. I was so surprised
when
he proudly offered to read it to me. He likes to do math problems in
his
head for fun. He will just ask out of the blue "Does 8 plus 8 equal
16?"
Yes. "Then 9 plus 9 is 18, right?" Yes.
What I have noticed though is the sure way to guarantee Zach will clam
up is
to try to educate or pressure him in any way. He is still very
sensitive to
the pain that schooling caused him.
May I suggest simply have fun with your son. Don't do "field trips" but
just go hang out at the zoo with your son, like you would with anybody
that
you like to spend time with. Play. Go shopping. Build a tree house.
Just
do fun stuff and make sure that you are allowing him to be fully
involved,
that you are not taking over (like good homeschool moms are very capable
of
doing). But most of all, just breathe, relax and remember that life
really
is good.
Julie
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In a message dated 9/13/02 11:27:27 AM, jnjstau@... writes:
<< Zach loves to play pool and baseball. >>
There's a video, unavailable to normal people (you can get really expensive
copies, but it's not re-re-released or on DVD yet, I don't think) called
Donald in Mathemagic Land.
It has a billiards expert (all darkened out) and shows how he makes really
complex shots. I think it's billiards and not pool, but still...
It's pretty wonderful. We rent it from Hollywood video every year or two,
and I hope someday to have it on DVD.
I remember seeing part of it in a theatre in the late 50's as a short before
a movie. Not the whole thing, which is about a half an hour.
Sandra
<< Zach loves to play pool and baseball. >>
There's a video, unavailable to normal people (you can get really expensive
copies, but it's not re-re-released or on DVD yet, I don't think) called
Donald in Mathemagic Land.
It has a billiards expert (all darkened out) and shows how he makes really
complex shots. I think it's billiards and not pool, but still...
It's pretty wonderful. We rent it from Hollywood video every year or two,
and I hope someday to have it on DVD.
I remember seeing part of it in a theatre in the late 50's as a short before
a movie. Not the whole thing, which is about a half an hour.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/13/02 8:56:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
believe how cool it was. I did buy the new Schoolhouse Rock DVD a few weeks
ago. Remember those Saturday morning shorts between cartoons in the mid 70's
and early 80's? It has all the multiplication songs, all the English and
History songs too. The kids love to put it on while they play and sing along
with it.
~Nancy
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> There's a video, unavailable to normal people (you can get really expensiveWe have been looking for that, I saw it on Disney late one night and couldn't
> copies, but it's not re-re-released or on DVD yet, I don't think) called
> Donald in Mathemagic Land.
>
> It has a billiards expert (all darkened out) and shows how he makes really
> complex shots. I think it's billiards and not pool, but still...
>
> It's pretty wonderful. We rent it from Hollywood video every year or two,
> and I hope someday to have it on DVD.
>
> I remember seeing part of it in a theatre in the late 50's as a short
> before
> a movie. Not the whole thing, which is about a half an hour.
>
> Sandra
believe how cool it was. I did buy the new Schoolhouse Rock DVD a few weeks
ago. Remember those Saturday morning shorts between cartoons in the mid 70's
and early 80's? It has all the multiplication songs, all the English and
History songs too. The kids love to put it on while they play and sing along
with it.
~Nancy
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/13/02 8:56:29 PM, SandraDodd@... writes:
<< There's a video, unavailable to normal people (you can get really
expensive
copies, but it's not re-re-released or on DVD yet, I don't think) called
Donald in Mathemagic Land.
I can't remember where we got it though, we've had it a long time. I bet you
could find it on ebay.
Paula
<< There's a video, unavailable to normal people (you can get really
expensive
copies, but it's not re-re-released or on DVD yet, I don't think) called
Donald in Mathemagic Land.
>>Not that I've ever wanted to be normal, but I do own this video <g>.
I can't remember where we got it though, we've had it a long time. I bet you
could find it on ebay.
Paula
Jocelyn Vilter
We get this from our library every year or so too. I have vague memories of
seeing it as a kid, and I showed it to Matthew when he was 4 or 5 or so and
he loved it. There are copies available on both ebay and half.com, although
they are sort of spendy.
He's also liked the Hemo the Magnificent tape and Our Mr. Sun.
Jocelyn
seeing it as a kid, and I showed it to Matthew when he was 4 or 5 or so and
he loved it. There are copies available on both ebay and half.com, although
they are sort of spendy.
He's also liked the Hemo the Magnificent tape and Our Mr. Sun.
Jocelyn
> From: SandraDodd@...
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:55:57 EDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Digest Number 522
>
>
> In a message dated 9/13/02 11:27:27 AM, jnjstau@... writes:
>
> << Zach loves to play pool and baseball. >>
>
> There's a video, unavailable to normal people (you can get really expensive
> copies, but it's not re-re-released or on DVD yet, I don't think) called
> Donald in Mathemagic Land.
>
> It has a billiards expert (all darkened out) and shows how he makes really
> complex shots. I think it's billiards and not pool, but still...
>
> It's pretty wonderful. We rent it from Hollywood video every year or two,
> and I hope someday to have it on DVD.
>
> I remember seeing part of it in a theatre in the late 50's as a short before
> a movie. Not the whole thing, which is about a half an hour.
>
> Sandra
>
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In a message dated 9/14/02 7:23:00 AM, sjogy@... writes:
<< I can't remember where we got it though, we've had it a long time. I bet
you
could find it on ebay. >>
Last time I looked around for a copy they were $80 and like that. I'm
waiting for the "greatest Disney shorts" DVD. <g>
<< I can't remember where we got it though, we've had it a long time. I bet
you
could find it on ebay. >>
Last time I looked around for a copy they were $80 and like that. I'm
waiting for the "greatest Disney shorts" DVD. <g>
[email protected]
In a message dated 13/09/02 08:08:50 GMT Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
Have you read 'Do not disturb' by Deborah Jackson? It's a great book on this
very topic. I think I'm probably due to reread it sometime soon. ;o)
Lynda
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[email protected] writes:
> Hello,yup, that's me to a T. I try to work on it, but sometimes it slips through.
>
> These ideas of bedtime, control, and the young woman are very interesting.
> Surrendering and trusting the young people we get to see grow up is so
> difficult. First, the safety of life, the hold my hand, slow down when you
> eat, small pieces please, watch the street then cross, two hands on the
> scooter. At some point along the way, these little people really do know how
> to be responsible. I see it with Tessa, almost 3 on some things, alot with
> Riley, 5.5, and Ashley at almost 8 seems to know how to be in the world.
>
> Right now I was controlling Tessa. She is playing with homemade playdough we
> cooked up about 45 minutes ago. She wants to mix in more flour. I told her
> she
> had enough. Why? Two reasons, I see a potential mess I get to clean up and
> she
> will make the playdough too dry. My deal. I gave her more flour and told her
> sorry for not listening right away.
>
> Controlling the kids seems to creep into our lives so easily. I hear parents
> all the time telling kids not to do this or that at the playground. Throwing
> sand yes, but climbing up the slide when no one else is playing on it does
> not
> seem reasonable.
>
> I like this discussion,
>
> Mary H. (who married an introvert and is still learning to respect his out
> side of the group needs). Makes it difficult sometimes to do exciting crowd
> activities, like fairs and festivals, yet boy do we have fun on our own in
> the
> woods and beaches. I also have learned to ts=ake the kids to group things
> with
> another family and ask Tim if he wants to join us. No expectations.
>
Have you read 'Do not disturb' by Deborah Jackson? It's a great book on this
very topic. I think I'm probably due to reread it sometime soon. ;o)
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rick.michelle
On vacation until the 17th.
Pam Hartley
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no email and that should take care of it.
Pam
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Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Digest Number 522
Date: Mon, Sep 16, 2002, 6:27 PM
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