Re: Stockholm syndrome
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***The duration of captivity seems to continue into adulthood for some
people.
I wonder what makes the difference in those of us who reject school?***
I have wondered this.
I watch my son go about his day and he is such a different kind of child
than I was or his dad was. He's sure he has rights and is not afraid to
stand up and demand them. He thinks about the world in way's none of my
friends did when I was ten. There is something so completely different
about him.
I honestly don't remember much about school. I can't recall teachers
names until the fourth grade and some (most) after that are missing. I
left school at the end of my freshman year and my mother says my
accounting teacher, Mr. Johnson came to the house several times to see
me but I have no recollection of that.
I apparently never bonded with my captors.<g> I don't know the reason.
I have a friend who suffered in school, suffered to please the teachers
and get everything just right. She's smart and her own children have had
problems in school and she wouldn't dream of taking them out. She was
so much smarter than I was in school, and so invested in it and she had
ulcers by the end of high school and she never wanted her kids to go
through the same thing, but tomorrow she'll get them out of bed and send
them and never think about alternatives.
Did we have parents who'd been in war and talked about rights and abuse?
Did we have older siblings who talked about all the things wrong with
school? Were we just never wired for the herd mentality? Did we all
ask too many questions there were no good answers for?
I remember looking at Dylan when he was born and thinking nothing would
ever be good enough for him. Maybe when I really thought about school I
wondered what life could be if we just bypassed all that foolishness.
I don't know why some people see school as necessary and others don't.
Maybe it's just the willingness to think beyond what we're told to think.
"Why" and "Why not" are a bigger part of some lives than others.
A palm reader once told me I was from another planet, maybe that's it!
Get a government grant Nancy, and do a study and prove once and for all
that people who reject school are more highly evolved. <g>
Deb L
people.
I wonder what makes the difference in those of us who reject school?***
I have wondered this.
I watch my son go about his day and he is such a different kind of child
than I was or his dad was. He's sure he has rights and is not afraid to
stand up and demand them. He thinks about the world in way's none of my
friends did when I was ten. There is something so completely different
about him.
I honestly don't remember much about school. I can't recall teachers
names until the fourth grade and some (most) after that are missing. I
left school at the end of my freshman year and my mother says my
accounting teacher, Mr. Johnson came to the house several times to see
me but I have no recollection of that.
I apparently never bonded with my captors.<g> I don't know the reason.
I have a friend who suffered in school, suffered to please the teachers
and get everything just right. She's smart and her own children have had
problems in school and she wouldn't dream of taking them out. She was
so much smarter than I was in school, and so invested in it and she had
ulcers by the end of high school and she never wanted her kids to go
through the same thing, but tomorrow she'll get them out of bed and send
them and never think about alternatives.
Did we have parents who'd been in war and talked about rights and abuse?
Did we have older siblings who talked about all the things wrong with
school? Were we just never wired for the herd mentality? Did we all
ask too many questions there were no good answers for?
I remember looking at Dylan when he was born and thinking nothing would
ever be good enough for him. Maybe when I really thought about school I
wondered what life could be if we just bypassed all that foolishness.
I don't know why some people see school as necessary and others don't.
Maybe it's just the willingness to think beyond what we're told to think.
"Why" and "Why not" are a bigger part of some lives than others.
A palm reader once told me I was from another planet, maybe that's it!
Get a government grant Nancy, and do a study and prove once and for all
that people who reject school are more highly evolved. <g>
Deb L
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In a message dated 9/2/02 7:04:33 AM, ddzimlew@... writes:
<< I watch my son go about his day and he is such a different kind of child
than I was or his dad was. He's sure he has rights and is not afraid to
stand up and demand them. He thinks about the world in way's none of my
friends did when I was ten. There is something so completely different
about him. >>
I see Holly being analytical about the world in ways we didn't have
permission to be when we were her age. We didn't have the resources to be.
The freedom to be. We were "too little." She's never had "little" enforced
on her.
In the same day (moment!) that she can talk to adults about real things,
relationships, emotion, motivaton, she can also be doing really little kid
things. Dolls, stuffed-animal plays, swinging high enough to make the swing
legs come up (we didn't anchor it when we moved from the other house, and
with just her on it it hasn't mattered).
She not only doesn't feel too little, she doesn't feel too big. She can
watch The Green Mile and Elmo's World in the same day. TeleTubbies and
Friends, and not be self-conscious or off balance.
I played school to have fun and do well. I did both. I had friends smarter
than I was who thought doing well wasn't fun. So they had fun and did not
"do well." In retrospect I think they were smarter more than one way. I was
like a cat doing tricks, and they were like smarter cats who refused to do
tricks.
Sandra
<< I watch my son go about his day and he is such a different kind of child
than I was or his dad was. He's sure he has rights and is not afraid to
stand up and demand them. He thinks about the world in way's none of my
friends did when I was ten. There is something so completely different
about him. >>
I see Holly being analytical about the world in ways we didn't have
permission to be when we were her age. We didn't have the resources to be.
The freedom to be. We were "too little." She's never had "little" enforced
on her.
In the same day (moment!) that she can talk to adults about real things,
relationships, emotion, motivaton, she can also be doing really little kid
things. Dolls, stuffed-animal plays, swinging high enough to make the swing
legs come up (we didn't anchor it when we moved from the other house, and
with just her on it it hasn't mattered).
She not only doesn't feel too little, she doesn't feel too big. She can
watch The Green Mile and Elmo's World in the same day. TeleTubbies and
Friends, and not be self-conscious or off balance.
I played school to have fun and do well. I did both. I had friends smarter
than I was who thought doing well wasn't fun. So they had fun and did not
"do well." In retrospect I think they were smarter more than one way. I was
like a cat doing tricks, and they were like smarter cats who refused to do
tricks.
Sandra
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> She not only doesn't feel too little, she doesn't feel too big. SheThis is really wonderful.
> can
> watch The Green Mile and Elmo's World in the same day. TeleTubbies
> and
> Friends, and not be self-conscious or off balance.
At night Dylan chooses a little stuffed animal to sleep with, wraps it
tenderly in the bundle of quilt and afghan he's had since he was a baby
and talks kindly to it. "I hope you don't mind being wrapped up, I hope
I don't squish you, you can squeak if you need something..." He kisses
it tenderly and snuggles it down beside him and then, this happened last
night, he said, "I want to go to the public meeting on the EPA river
clean up proposal on the 17th."
Ok.<g>
His world is so much bigger than mine was and so much more full of
possibilities.
Deb L
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This is something else I've noticed lately.
Used to be when people asked me about homeshooling there were always the
questions about education and socialization.
Now it seems to have been proven in the minds of a lot of people that
homeschooling isn't hurting the children, so a shift has taken place and
now homeschooling hurts schools and therefor society.
But here's one interesting thing. Last night I talked to my friend in
Arkansas who is just beginning his first year teaching. There is a
former homeschooler in his class and his observation was that the boy is
lacking social skills. He says he's shy and not swirling at the center
of his peers attention.
But he commented on another boy whom he really likes, who's very smart,
etc, etc, and laughed that this boy tells other kids to shut up and got
into a little trouble for shoving another kid around.
I asked him as gently as I could not to confuse social and anti social,
but I don't think he got it.
Deb L
Used to be when people asked me about homeshooling there were always the
questions about education and socialization.
Now it seems to have been proven in the minds of a lot of people that
homeschooling isn't hurting the children, so a shift has taken place and
now homeschooling hurts schools and therefor society.
But here's one interesting thing. Last night I talked to my friend in
Arkansas who is just beginning his first year teaching. There is a
former homeschooler in his class and his observation was that the boy is
lacking social skills. He says he's shy and not swirling at the center
of his peers attention.
But he commented on another boy whom he really likes, who's very smart,
etc, etc, and laughed that this boy tells other kids to shut up and got
into a little trouble for shoving another kid around.
I asked him as gently as I could not to confuse social and anti social,
but I don't think he got it.
Deb L
> > I guess there are many reasons people have for home schooling
> their
> > children, however, the practice seems to be moving from an
> occasional
> > thing to something that threatens the public school system. There
> is
> > no question that everybody will not be able or want to home school
> > their children. Our country became great and will remain great
> > because all of the public are educated in the public school
> system..
> > Not to have a public school system would result in our living in a
> > country with countless uneducated masses. The public school
> system
> > is being left with those parents who are disengaged from the
> > education of their children while those of us who care about
> > education are withdrawing our support. Lots of time and effort
> are
> > put into home schooling... How much better our public school
> system
> > would be if you parents would put even a small percentage of that
> > time into volunteering your help, opinions and concerns with the
> > public school system. Just think about that.......
Lisa Hardiman
I have thought about this topic. I sort of hang out with a group of
people who have preschoolers. Most are sending their kids to
kindergarten. I am Homeschooling my 8 year old and 4 year old this
year. It is a belief now among some of the moms that I am turning my
back on society and the public. All of these moms are middle class.
They all participate in the PTA. Their children probably without
exception are going to be successful in the system. But there are
different ways of measuring success. I believe like John Lennon did,
that success means that you are enjoying what you are doing with full
satisfaction, that you are happy with yourself and others. But a lot of
society see success as money and material gain equates happiness.
Probably a third of the kids in public school do not succeed in the
system. The have terms and labels put on their heads; troubled,
learning disabled, ADHD (that is a big one). These parents are going to
have fruitful kids, they don't have problems with status quo beliefs.
They
-----Original Message-----
From: ddzimlew@... [mailto:ddzimlew@...]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Stockholm syndrome
This is something else I've noticed lately.
Used to be when people asked me about homeshooling there were always the
questions about education and socialization.
Now it seems to have been proven in the minds of a lot of people that
homeschooling isn't hurting the children, so a shift has taken place and
now homeschooling hurts schools and therefor society.
But here's one interesting thing. Last night I talked to my friend in
Arkansas who is just beginning his first year teaching. There is a
former homeschooler in his class and his observation was that the boy is
lacking social skills. He says he's shy and not swirling at the center
of his peers attention.
But he commented on another boy whom he really likes, who's very smart,
etc, etc, and laughed that this boy tells other kids to shut up and got
into a little trouble for shoving another kid around.
I asked him as gently as I could not to confuse social and anti social,
but I don't think he got it.
Deb L
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people who have preschoolers. Most are sending their kids to
kindergarten. I am Homeschooling my 8 year old and 4 year old this
year. It is a belief now among some of the moms that I am turning my
back on society and the public. All of these moms are middle class.
They all participate in the PTA. Their children probably without
exception are going to be successful in the system. But there are
different ways of measuring success. I believe like John Lennon did,
that success means that you are enjoying what you are doing with full
satisfaction, that you are happy with yourself and others. But a lot of
society see success as money and material gain equates happiness.
Probably a third of the kids in public school do not succeed in the
system. The have terms and labels put on their heads; troubled,
learning disabled, ADHD (that is a big one). These parents are going to
have fruitful kids, they don't have problems with status quo beliefs.
They
-----Original Message-----
From: ddzimlew@... [mailto:ddzimlew@...]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Stockholm syndrome
This is something else I've noticed lately.
Used to be when people asked me about homeshooling there were always the
questions about education and socialization.
Now it seems to have been proven in the minds of a lot of people that
homeschooling isn't hurting the children, so a shift has taken place and
now homeschooling hurts schools and therefor society.
But here's one interesting thing. Last night I talked to my friend in
Arkansas who is just beginning his first year teaching. There is a
former homeschooler in his class and his observation was that the boy is
lacking social skills. He says he's shy and not swirling at the center
of his peers attention.
But he commented on another boy whom he really likes, who's very smart,
etc, etc, and laughed that this boy tells other kids to shut up and got
into a little trouble for shoving another kid around.
I asked him as gently as I could not to confuse social and anti social,
but I don't think he got it.
Deb L
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> > children, however, the practice seems to be moving from an
> occasional
> > thing to something that threatens the public school system. There
> is
> > no question that everybody will not be able or want to home school
> > their children. Our country became great and will remain great
> > because all of the public are educated in the public school
> system..
> > Not to have a public school system would result in our living in a
> > country with countless uneducated masses. The public school
> system
> > is being left with those parents who are disengaged from the
> > education of their children while those of us who care about
> > education are withdrawing our support. Lots of time and effort
> are
> > put into home schooling... How much better our public school
> system
> > would be if you parents would put even a small percentage of that
> > time into volunteering your help, opinions and concerns with the
> > public school system. Just think about that.......
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Oh, my husband has a t-shirt story. Not his own, but when he was in high
school his friend Chet wore a shirt that said "Get your shit together"
and was expelled from school. ( is it expulsion if it's for only three
days?) As he was being led out of the building another kid said give me
that shirt, and he did and the other boy put it on and was also
expelled.<G> They then had three fun day's together at the lake and
lots of stories to tell the rest of the school when they were finally
allowed back in.
That's one option for getting a vacation I suppose, and you could time it
for the nice weather, too.
Deb L
school his friend Chet wore a shirt that said "Get your shit together"
and was expelled from school. ( is it expulsion if it's for only three
days?) As he was being led out of the building another kid said give me
that shirt, and he did and the other boy put it on and was also
expelled.<G> They then had three fun day's together at the lake and
lots of stories to tell the rest of the school when they were finally
allowed back in.
That's one option for getting a vacation I suppose, and you could time it
for the nice weather, too.
Deb L
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>I am Homeschooling my 8 year old and 4 year old thisBut, you don't believe it do you, Lisa?
>year. It is a belief now among some of the moms that I am turning my
>back on society and the public.
Deb L
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> << ( is it expulsion if it's for only threeThank you. I knew that didn't sound right. One of those schoolish
> days?) >>
>
> suspension
things I'm not sorry to have forgotten.<g>
Deb L
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In a message dated 9/2/02 2:16:03 PM, ddzimlew@... writes:
<< ( is it expulsion if it's for only three
days?) >>
suspension
<< ( is it expulsion if it's for only three
days?) >>
suspension
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Thanks for the thoughts on this Nancy. I always enjoy your posts immensely.
Part of what totally convinced me to homeschool was the year Trevor spent in
Kindergarten....I suppose that is true for many people. But what convinced me
was not how lousy the school was. I didn't think he had a bad experience at
the time, it wasn't until later that he opened up about all the hurt that
year caused.
My "aha" moment was after I had volunteered on the PDC (program delivery
council) the PTA and in the classroom all year. It just hit me one day that
if all this immense amount of time and energy I was spending at a school and
on lots of other kids could be given to just my son, what an amazing thing
that would be.
It was in that moment, of realizing I COULD just focus all that energy on
him, that homeschooling suddenly was very possible and seemed the only option.
I am writing this in response to the person you answered about how parents
should volunteer and work in the schools rather than homeschooling.
What if all those parents spent the time and energy on their own family,
rather than a screwed up system? Wow, talk about a revolution.
Ren
Part of what totally convinced me to homeschool was the year Trevor spent in
Kindergarten....I suppose that is true for many people. But what convinced me
was not how lousy the school was. I didn't think he had a bad experience at
the time, it wasn't until later that he opened up about all the hurt that
year caused.
My "aha" moment was after I had volunteered on the PDC (program delivery
council) the PTA and in the classroom all year. It just hit me one day that
if all this immense amount of time and energy I was spending at a school and
on lots of other kids could be given to just my son, what an amazing thing
that would be.
It was in that moment, of realizing I COULD just focus all that energy on
him, that homeschooling suddenly was very possible and seemed the only option.
I am writing this in response to the person you answered about how parents
should volunteer and work in the schools rather than homeschooling.
What if all those parents spent the time and energy on their own family,
rather than a screwed up system? Wow, talk about a revolution.
Ren
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**They then had three fun day's together at the lake and
lots of stories to tell the rest of the school when they were finally
allowed back in.
That's one option for getting a vacation I suppose, and you could time it
for the nice weather, too. **
These days (around here, anyway) they'd be given a three day in school
suspension. Which means you go to school, but you sit in an office or some
other place not doing much of anything or doing work for the school, but not
your work because whatever you miss those days you have to make up later, not
at the time, because then it wouldn't be a suspension, you know?
Schools just keep getting more and more bizarre.
Deborah in IL
lots of stories to tell the rest of the school when they were finally
allowed back in.
That's one option for getting a vacation I suppose, and you could time it
for the nice weather, too. **
These days (around here, anyway) they'd be given a three day in school
suspension. Which means you go to school, but you sit in an office or some
other place not doing much of anything or doing work for the school, but not
your work because whatever you miss those days you have to make up later, not
at the time, because then it wouldn't be a suspension, you know?
Schools just keep getting more and more bizarre.
Deborah in IL
Kate Green
Suspensions can be a big problem in some schools. Lots of kids that are
suspended end up home with no one around to care for them. Many live in
low-income areas and end up hanging out with gangs and getting into more
trouble. My mom (a teacher in CA) fights against suspending her kids as she
knows it's going to create more problems for the kids. Many of hers are
better off in school than at home and often beg to stay there -- even thru
holidays!
Kate
At 11:40 PM 9/2/02 -0400, you wrote:
suspended end up home with no one around to care for them. Many live in
low-income areas and end up hanging out with gangs and getting into more
trouble. My mom (a teacher in CA) fights against suspending her kids as she
knows it's going to create more problems for the kids. Many of hers are
better off in school than at home and often beg to stay there -- even thru
holidays!
Kate
At 11:40 PM 9/2/02 -0400, you wrote:
> then had three fun day's together at the lake andnot
> lots of stories to tell the rest of the school when they were finally
>
> That's one option for getting a vacation I suppose, and you could time it
> for the nice weather, too. **
>
> These days (around here, anyway) they'd be given a three day in school
> suspension. Which means you go to school, but you sit in an office or some
> other place not doing much of anything or doing work for the school, but
> your work because whatever you miss those days you have to make up later,not
> at the time, because then it wouldn't be a suspension, you know?
>
> Schools just keep getting more and more bizarre.
>
> Deborah in IL
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I have my moments of complete anxiety and self doubt, but I see how
happy my son is and daughter is blooming too. I think the more people
who homeschool the better our society will be. Lisa
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happy my son is and daughter is blooming too. I think the more people
who homeschool the better our society will be. Lisa
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Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Stockholm syndrome
>I am Homeschooling my 8 year old and 4 year old thisBut, you don't believe it do you, Lisa?
>year. It is a belief now among some of the moms that I am turning my
>back on society and the public.
Deb L
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Lisa Hardiman
Sorry, I could finish that one. I think that the more people who guide
their kids and for many Homeschooling is the answer and for others it is
not, the better the world will be. I am beginning to think that
education in all levels of government is turning into a Enron or World
dot com and the waste is incredible. Lsia
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From: Lisa Hardiman [mailto:lisa-hardiman@...]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Stockholm syndrome
I have thought about this topic. I sort of hang out with a group of
people who have preschoolers. Most are sending their kids to
kindergarten. I am Homeschooling my 8 year old and 4 year old this
year. It is a belief now among some of the moms that I am turning my
back on society and the public. All of these moms are middle class.
They all participate in the PTA. Their children probably without
exception are going to be successful in the system. But there are
different ways of measuring success. I believe like John Lennon did,
that success means that you are enjoying what you are doing with full
satisfaction, that you are happy with yourself and others. But a lot of
society see success as money and material gain equates happiness.
Probably a third of the kids in public school do not succeed in the
system. The have terms and labels put on their heads; troubled,
learning disabled, ADHD (that is a big one). These parents are going to
have fruitful kids, they don't have problems with status quo beliefs.
They
-----Original Message-----
From: ddzimlew@... [mailto:ddzimlew@...]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Stockholm syndrome
This is something else I've noticed lately.
Used to be when people asked me about homeshooling there were always the
questions about education and socialization.
Now it seems to have been proven in the minds of a lot of people that
homeschooling isn't hurting the children, so a shift has taken place and
now homeschooling hurts schools and therefor society.
But here's one interesting thing. Last night I talked to my friend in
Arkansas who is just beginning his first year teaching. There is a
former homeschooler in his class and his observation was that the boy is
lacking social skills. He says he's shy and not swirling at the center
of his peers attention.
But he commented on another boy whom he really likes, who's very smart,
etc, etc, and laughed that this boy tells other kids to shut up and got
into a little trouble for shoving another kid around.
I asked him as gently as I could not to confuse social and anti social,
but I don't think he got it.
Deb L
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their kids and for many Homeschooling is the answer and for others it is
not, the better the world will be. I am beginning to think that
education in all levels of government is turning into a Enron or World
dot com and the waste is incredible. Lsia
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Hardiman [mailto:lisa-hardiman@...]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Stockholm syndrome
I have thought about this topic. I sort of hang out with a group of
people who have preschoolers. Most are sending their kids to
kindergarten. I am Homeschooling my 8 year old and 4 year old this
year. It is a belief now among some of the moms that I am turning my
back on society and the public. All of these moms are middle class.
They all participate in the PTA. Their children probably without
exception are going to be successful in the system. But there are
different ways of measuring success. I believe like John Lennon did,
that success means that you are enjoying what you are doing with full
satisfaction, that you are happy with yourself and others. But a lot of
society see success as money and material gain equates happiness.
Probably a third of the kids in public school do not succeed in the
system. The have terms and labels put on their heads; troubled,
learning disabled, ADHD (that is a big one). These parents are going to
have fruitful kids, they don't have problems with status quo beliefs.
They
-----Original Message-----
From: ddzimlew@... [mailto:ddzimlew@...]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Re:Stockholm syndrome
This is something else I've noticed lately.
Used to be when people asked me about homeshooling there were always the
questions about education and socialization.
Now it seems to have been proven in the minds of a lot of people that
homeschooling isn't hurting the children, so a shift has taken place and
now homeschooling hurts schools and therefor society.
But here's one interesting thing. Last night I talked to my friend in
Arkansas who is just beginning his first year teaching. There is a
former homeschooler in his class and his observation was that the boy is
lacking social skills. He says he's shy and not swirling at the center
of his peers attention.
But he commented on another boy whom he really likes, who's very smart,
etc, etc, and laughed that this boy tells other kids to shut up and got
into a little trouble for shoving another kid around.
I asked him as gently as I could not to confuse social and anti social,
but I don't think he got it.
Deb L
> > I guess there are many reasons people have for home schoolingYahoo! Groups Sponsor
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> > children, however, the practice seems to be moving from an
> occasional
> > thing to something that threatens the public school system. There
> is
> > no question that everybody will not be able or want to home school
> > their children. Our country became great and will remain great
> > because all of the public are educated in the public school
> system..
> > Not to have a public school system would result in our living in a
> > country with countless uneducated masses. The public school
> system
> > is being left with those parents who are disengaged from the
> > education of their children while those of us who care about
> > education are withdrawing our support. Lots of time and effort
> are
> > put into home schooling... How much better our public school
> system
> > would be if you parents would put even a small percentage of that
> > time into volunteering your help, opinions and concerns with the
> > public school system. Just think about that.......
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Peggy
Ren wrote:
wanting only to perceive the shallowest level of what they experience.
Anything else makes them uncomfortable.
Maybe some people are happy with their "programming"? Perish the thought. ;)
Well put Ren.
Peggy
> We never got the "stockholm syndrome"? Nah, I did think school was aA friend of mine described it as some people living on the "surface" and
> necessary, wonderful thing when my first child was born. I think some of us
> in this world are able to be very uncomfortable with an idea, but not let it
> go until it's thought through, evaluated and held up to the light of our
> beliefs.
> When something seems to speak to my heart, or make me uncomfortable, I have
> to know why, I have to read about and seek information on it from all angles.
> Some people don't have a need to know. They'd rather NOT know. It is this
> willingness to examine things from other perspectives that makes it possible
> to overcome programming in my opinion.
> I like to think of it as a strong constitution. But maybe I'm giving myself
> too much credit...lol
wanting only to perceive the shallowest level of what they experience.
Anything else makes them uncomfortable.
Maybe some people are happy with their "programming"? Perish the thought. ;)
Well put Ren.
Peggy