Nanci Kuykendall

Help! I have a situation which I am having trouble
finding appropriate information about online. Can
anyone help me with information about the
laws/regs/alternatives/options available in Washington
and where I may look for them? Here is the problem:

My teeneage niece, whom I raised until she was 6,
wants to come and live with us and go to college in
Washington. She and I have a very special elationship
and we are more than happy to have her. Neither
of us think that her dysfunctional and irresponsible
parents will stop her from leaving. They will be glad
for one less mouth to feed mostly, and have told her
she is free to go whenever she is free from compulsory
attendance in California and they will not be fined
for truancy.

What are her options for getting out of school in
California and getting up here to Washington State to
go to school (or not) as she decides? In California
she can take her CHSPE to test out, but she is test
phobic. She would like to see if there is an option
for transferring up here to HS and then getting out
based on Washington State requirements or
alternatives, which she believes to be better (less
hoops to jump through) than California. Would this
require a parental/guardianship change, or at 16 is
she allowed to make that decision herself in WA?? How
would she transfer from there to here, simply change
her address and move? What are her options and her
best course of action? Can anyone point me in the
right direction for finding the information? I am not
having a lot of luck online.

Right now she is in a Home-Study program in California
(like independent study.) She is an Honor Student
from 1st grade, Presidential Honor Roll student, and
Rainbow Scholar, from a below poverty level family.
She is female and 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Arabic, so she
qualifies for scholorships and aid on several levels,
if that helps. She really wants to get out of the
compulsory system and away from her awful home life.
She is very bright. I would appreciate any help or
advice anyone has to offer.

Nanci K.

kayb85

I think the answer to your question depends on California's
homeschooling laws. Maybe you could find a list specific to
California homeschooling that would answer your question if no one on
this list is sure. I could answer your question if she lived in
Pennsylvania, but I don't know California law. If she lived in
Pennsylvania, the parents would have to sign the affidavit stating
that she is homeschooled and they are the supervisors of her program,
but they can have anyone teach her.

Another thing to look into would be making her an emancipated minor.

Sheila


--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Nanci Kuykendall <aisliin@y...> wrote:
> Help! I have a situation which I am having trouble
> finding appropriate information about online. Can
> anyone help me with information about the
> laws/regs/alternatives/options available in Washington
> and where I may look for them? Here is the problem:
>
> My teeneage niece, whom I raised until she was 6,
> wants to come and live with us and go to college in
> Washington. She and I have a very special elationship
> and we are more than happy to have her. Neither
> of us think that her dysfunctional and irresponsible
> parents will stop her from leaving. They will be glad
> for one less mouth to feed mostly, and have told her
> she is free to go whenever she is free from compulsory
> attendance in California and they will not be fined
> for truancy.
>
> What are her options for getting out of school in
> California and getting up here to Washington State to
> go to school (or not) as she decides? In California
> she can take her CHSPE to test out, but she is test
> phobic. She would like to see if there is an option
> for transferring up here to HS and then getting out
> based on Washington State requirements or
> alternatives, which she believes to be better (less
> hoops to jump through) than California. Would this
> require a parental/guardianship change, or at 16 is
> she allowed to make that decision herself in WA?? How
> would she transfer from there to here, simply change
> her address and move? What are her options and her
> best course of action? Can anyone point me in the
> right direction for finding the information? I am not
> having a lot of luck online.
>
> Right now she is in a Home-Study program in California
> (like independent study.) She is an Honor Student
> from 1st grade, Presidential Honor Roll student, and
> Rainbow Scholar, from a below poverty level family.
> She is female and 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Arabic, so she
> qualifies for scholorships and aid on several levels,
> if that helps. She really wants to get out of the
> compulsory system and away from her awful home life.
> She is very bright. I would appreciate any help or
> advice anyone has to offer.
>
> Nanci K.

kayb85

I think the answer to your question depends on California's
homeschooling laws. Maybe you could find a list specific to
California homeschooling that would answer your question if no one on
this list is sure. I could answer your question if she lived in
Pennsylvania, but I don't know California law. If she lived in
Pennsylvania, the parents would have to sign the affidavit stating
that she is homeschooled and they are the supervisors of her program,
but they can have anyone teach her.

Another thing to look into would be making her an emancipated minor.

Sheila


--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Nanci Kuykendall <aisliin@y...> wrote:
> Help! I have a situation which I am having trouble
> finding appropriate information about online. Can
> anyone help me with information about the
> laws/regs/alternatives/options available in Washington
> and where I may look for them? Here is the problem:
>
> My teeneage niece, whom I raised until she was 6,
> wants to come and live with us and go to college in
> Washington. She and I have a very special elationship
> and we are more than happy to have her. Neither
> of us think that her dysfunctional and irresponsible
> parents will stop her from leaving. They will be glad
> for one less mouth to feed mostly, and have told her
> she is free to go whenever she is free from compulsory
> attendance in California and they will not be fined
> for truancy.
>
> What are her options for getting out of school in
> California and getting up here to Washington State to
> go to school (or not) as she decides? In California
> she can take her CHSPE to test out, but she is test
> phobic. She would like to see if there is an option
> for transferring up here to HS and then getting out
> based on Washington State requirements or
> alternatives, which she believes to be better (less
> hoops to jump through) than California. Would this
> require a parental/guardianship change, or at 16 is
> she allowed to make that decision herself in WA?? How
> would she transfer from there to here, simply change
> her address and move? What are her options and her
> best course of action? Can anyone point me in the
> right direction for finding the information? I am not
> having a lot of luck online.
>
> Right now she is in a Home-Study program in California
> (like independent study.) She is an Honor Student
> from 1st grade, Presidential Honor Roll student, and
> Rainbow Scholar, from a below poverty level family.
> She is female and 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Arabic, so she
> qualifies for scholorships and aid on several levels,
> if that helps. She really wants to get out of the
> compulsory system and away from her awful home life.
> She is very bright. I would appreciate any help or
> advice anyone has to offer.
>
> Nanci K.

kayb85

I think the answer to your question depends on California's
homeschooling laws. Maybe you could find a list specific to
California homeschooling that would answer your question if no one on
this list is sure. I could answer your question if she lived in
Pennsylvania, but I don't know California law. If she lived in
Pennsylvania, the parents would have to sign the affidavit stating
that she is homeschooled and they are the supervisors of her program,
but they can have anyone teach her.

Another thing to look into would be making her an emancipated minor.

Sheila


--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Nanci Kuykendall <aisliin@y...> wrote:
> Help! I have a situation which I am having trouble
> finding appropriate information about online. Can
> anyone help me with information about the
> laws/regs/alternatives/options available in Washington
> and where I may look for them? Here is the problem:
>
> My teeneage niece, whom I raised until she was 6,
> wants to come and live with us and go to college in
> Washington. She and I have a very special elationship
> and we are more than happy to have her. Neither
> of us think that her dysfunctional and irresponsible
> parents will stop her from leaving. They will be glad
> for one less mouth to feed mostly, and have told her
> she is free to go whenever she is free from compulsory
> attendance in California and they will not be fined
> for truancy.
>
> What are her options for getting out of school in
> California and getting up here to Washington State to
> go to school (or not) as she decides? In California
> she can take her CHSPE to test out, but she is test
> phobic. She would like to see if there is an option
> for transferring up here to HS and then getting out
> based on Washington State requirements or
> alternatives, which she believes to be better (less
> hoops to jump through) than California. Would this
> require a parental/guardianship change, or at 16 is
> she allowed to make that decision herself in WA?? How
> would she transfer from there to here, simply change
> her address and move? What are her options and her
> best course of action? Can anyone point me in the
> right direction for finding the information? I am not
> having a lot of luck online.
>
> Right now she is in a Home-Study program in California
> (like independent study.) She is an Honor Student
> from 1st grade, Presidential Honor Roll student, and
> Rainbow Scholar, from a below poverty level family.
> She is female and 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Arabic, so she
> qualifies for scholorships and aid on several levels,
> if that helps. She really wants to get out of the
> compulsory system and away from her awful home life.
> She is very bright. I would appreciate any help or
> advice anyone has to offer.
>
> Nanci K.

Tia Leschke

>I think the answer to your question depends on California's
>homeschooling laws.

Wouldn't it depend more on Washington's homeschooling laws? Seems to me if
the parents give permission for her to be there, then she'd be a Washingon
resident and Nanci would be responsible for her education.


>Another thing to look into would be making her an emancipated minor.

When I was a teen in California, the only way to do that was to get
married. <g>
Tia

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On Vancouver Island

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If she is 16 she can already leave school with parents permission.

The CHSPE won't be given this fall, the state didn't get a contract with a
company to do it, they're apparently working on that now and will, we hope,
offer it again in the spring.

I don't know the WA laws in enough detail to know what her situation would be
there. Ask on the WA email lists -- if you need info, try NHEN.org and click
on legal/legislative information and then select Washington State.

--pamS


National Home Education Network
http://www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sharon Rudd

In Florida, driver's licsenses are revoked for teens
under 18 not "enrolled" in some sort of school. It is
a real problem for working kids.

Sharon of the Swamp

--- PSoroosh@... wrote:
> If she is 16 she can already leave school with
> parents permission.
>
> The CHSPE won't be given this fall, the state didn't
> get a contract with a
> company to do it, they're apparently working on that
> now and will, we hope,
> offer it again in the spring.
>
> I don't know the WA laws in enough detail to know
> what her situation would be
> there. Ask on the WA email lists -- if you need
> info, try NHEN.org and click
> on legal/legislative information and then select
> Washington State.
>
> --pamS
>
>
> National Home Education Network
> http://www.NHEN.org
> Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>


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Sharon Rudd

Call, on the telephone, the county Superintedant of
Schools and ask what is required to transfer. Is she
going to live with you? if she is, state that. They
HAVE to guide you in the legal directions.

If you are assigned legal custody, she will actually
be a ward of the state with you as custodian. You will
most probably be asigned a case-worker. You can just
have her live with you and get power of attorny. So
that you (she) can get medical help, go on fields
trips, cross state lines, things like that. My brother
did that for me when I had his little girl with me for
a summer.

With my sister I had legal custody. (I actually only
saw the social worker once....ever).

This was Florida. I contacted the Juvinal Court
System to get my information, at that time.

Sharon of the Swamp
--- kayb85 <sheran@...> wrote:
> I think the answer to your question depends on
> California's
> homeschooling laws. Maybe you could find a list
> specific to
> California homeschooling that would answer your
> question if no one on
> this list is sure. I could answer your question if
> she lived in
> Pennsylvania, but I don't know California law. If
> she lived in
> Pennsylvania, the parents would have to sign the
> affidavit stating
> that she is homeschooled and they are the
> supervisors of her program,
> but they can have anyone teach her.
>
> Another thing to look into would be making her an
> emancipated minor.
>
> Sheila
>
>
> --- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Nanci Kuykendall
> <aisliin@y...> wrote:
> > Help! I have a situation which I am having
> trouble
> > finding appropriate information about online. Can
> > anyone help me with information about the
> > laws/regs/alternatives/options available in
> Washington
> > and where I may look for them? Here is the
> problem:
> >
> > My teeneage niece, whom I raised until she was 6,
> > wants to come and live with us and go to college
> in
> > Washington. She and I have a very special
> elationship
> > and we are more than happy to have her. Neither
> > of us think that her dysfunctional and
> irresponsible
> > parents will stop her from leaving. They will be
> glad
> > for one less mouth to feed mostly, and have told
> her
> > she is free to go whenever she is free from
> compulsory
> > attendance in California and they will not be
> fined
> > for truancy.
> >
> > What are her options for getting out of school in
> > California and getting up here to Washington State
> to
> > go to school (or not) as she decides? In
> California
> > she can take her CHSPE to test out, but she is
> test
> > phobic. She would like to see if there is an
> option
> > for transferring up here to HS and then getting
> out
> > based on Washington State requirements or
> > alternatives, which she believes to be better
> (less
> > hoops to jump through) than California. Would
> this
> > require a parental/guardianship change, or at 16
> is
> > she allowed to make that decision herself in WA??
> How
> > would she transfer from there to here, simply
> change
> > her address and move? What are her options and
> her
> > best course of action? Can anyone point me in the
> > right direction for finding the information? I am
> not
> > having a lot of luck online.
> >
> > Right now she is in a Home-Study program in
> California
> > (like independent study.) She is an Honor Student
> > from 1st grade, Presidential Honor Roll student,
> and
> > Rainbow Scholar, from a below poverty level
> family.
> > She is female and 1/4 Japanese, 1/4 Arabic, so she
>
> > qualifies for scholorships and aid on several
> levels,
> > if that helps. She really wants to get out of the
> > compulsory system and away from her awful home
> life.
> > She is very bright. I would appreciate any help
> or
> > advice anyone has to offer.
> >
> > Nanci K.
>
>


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In a message dated 8/12/02 4:28:12 AM, bearspawprint@... writes:

<< Call, on the telephone, the county Superintedant of
Schools and ask what is required to transfer. Is she
going to live with you? if she is, state that. They
HAVE to guide you in the legal directions. >>

To transfer into school??

All you have to do in the U.S. is show up. They would like for you to prove
who you are, but that doesn't always happen, and they will take anyone who
shows up.

But this is about unschooling, right? Why talk to a superintendent of
anything?

<<If you are assigned legal custody, she will actually
be a ward of the state with you as custodian.>>

Why?

No, wards of the state are a whole 'nother thing.
A family can assign temporary legal custody with a notarized form. It's not
a big deal. It happens for extended field trips with regularity. They
state that you have the right to make decisions on the child's behalf and to
authorize medical treatment, and they sign it and have it notarized.

You don't have to deal with the state to keep someone else's child,
especially a relative.

Sandra

Sharon Rudd

To transfer into school??

Pardon me. I thought that was something that was
being considered. Sorry.

Sharon of the Swamp



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