noemi hiraishi

Dd found the concept of this word this morning but she does not
the word yet know.

Still in bed, this morning, dd asked for my hand and wrote in it;
AYA, and asked me why she could not just write her name as AY.
I made the sound of Y followed by Ye, yi, yo, yu and lastly
pronounced "ya". Then I pronounced "ay" and "aya".

Later, around 10.30AM I sat on the kitchen table, the place I sit
when I want to read or write, to see if she would quiet down and
do some Japanese Kanji or Portuguese.

I sat and I wrote a message for D. Dd asked me what I was doing
and as soon as she found out that I was writing a message to send
to D. and D's mother in USA, she run to write a message to D.
too. She wrote in Japanese and I translated it to English as D.
might find dd "hiragana and katakana" too twisted to understand.

I was surprized to see her writing "katakanas". I knew she could
copy them down, but I did not know she knew how to write in it.
She had signed her name in roman alphabet.

This afternoon she gave me a card. It said "ai no mirumo de
pon". "ai" written in roman alphabet and the rest in "hiragana"
(in the Japanese ps, they first teach this system of writing ).
"ai" means love in Japanese. "mirumo the pon" is one the newest
comic book character dd is in love with. The above frase means,
love from mirumo de pon. She could have written it all in
hiragana. But I feel that she wrote "ai" in roman alphabet to
please me. Or to imitate me. I rarely write in Japanese.

I will date the card and keep it. It is a landmark for me, for
us.

I am now looking forward to the day that I can report that dd is
reading Portuguese. I can hardly wait to see the lights of
delight in her words when she starts applying this new acquired
concept of syllable.

BTW, I went to dictionary two times before beginning this post. I
wanted to write "syllable" in the subject line of the post and
did not know how to spell it. Looked for silabu, then went to
sillabu, then I remembered that I had seem it with "y". When I
tried to type it down I could not spell the end of the word. Had
to open the dic. again.

At least once a day I have to open the Eng. dic. I should
consider upgrading my OS fm Win '95 to 2000 and buy MS word 2000
that is said that has the thesaurus and spelling check in it.
But before that it might be wiser to look and see if MS outlook
fm MS Explorer 4.0 has a way to be configured so that I could use
Microsoft word 4.0 as its word processor software. At least it
has the spelling checker.
.............
It was in yesterday newspaper "Asahi Shinbun" one of the biggest
national newspaper of Japan that many families are choosing to
birth away fm the hospital. These families are choosing to birth
at home with the assistance of midwives. A friend of mine gave
birth to her now 10 yo with the assistance of a midwife.
Birthing at home is not prohibited by law neither here or in
Brazil. It is only that the it is not popular with the MDs.
They want bithing in hospitals and preferably in the appointed
hours. True, specially in Brazil, maybe the country that does
cesarean section the most. (had to look up for the spelling of
cesarean.)
....................
love and peace. noemi, unschooling fm raining Tokyo.

Karen

Noemi, I just wanted to give you a belated welcome and let you know that I
love your posts! It's fascinating to get a glimpse into your life. I've been
trying to explain the concept of syllables to my son and it's harder than I
thought. And really, once you understand the concept, why do you have to
know where to divide the word? (Unless you're writing songs for our hymnbook
in church, other than that I can't imagine!)

The other thing I'm working on is helping him distinguish between singing
and rap. To my astonishment (he just turned 11) he thought they were the
same thing. Now when a song comes on he can tell, although I think he's
using the trick of whether I like it or not (if I don't, it must be rap...)
Again, I had a hard time verbalizing what the difference is. Rap is talking
in rhythm to music, it usually rhymes, and singing is, um, singing. It
rhymes, it's in rhythm, but how do you express the difference? I told him it
follows the melody. He pointed out that rap does too. He finally said that
the syllables were held longer in singing and understood that. I still feel
something's missing but it's tough to define! He hears melody in drumming,
though, and I don't, so it may be a perceptual difference and I'm the one
who's less perceptive!

Karen


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In a message dated 5/17/02 7:01:21 AM, kbmatlock@... writes:

<< And really, once you understand the concept, why do you have to
know where to divide the word? >>

With word processors it's not nearly as necessary. We used to have to know
where to hyphenate, when typing. Especially when justifying margins (by
hand, counting half-spaces, an archaic art I'm glad to see go!!).

It helps sometimes to be able to separate syllables to split the word out
into its meaningful parts (to figure out what a long word means), but the
hyphenation of words follows what will make it pronounceable for a reader,
not what its linguistic parts are.

(I'm babbling, but as one who does kinda like to dissect words and sentences,
I know why *I* would like to know, but I agree that most people don't need to
know.)

Sandra

Karin

>
> The other thing I'm working on is helping him distinguish between singing
> and rap. To my astonishment (he just turned 11) he thought they were the
> same thing. Now when a song comes on he can tell, although I think he's
> using the trick of whether I like it or not (if I don't, it must be
rap...)
> Again, I had a hard time verbalizing what the difference is. Rap is
talking
> in rhythm to music, it usually rhymes, and singing is, um, singing. It
> rhymes, it's in rhythm, but how do you express the difference? I told him
it
> follows the melody. He pointed out that rap does too. He finally said that
> the syllables were held longer in singing and understood that. I still
feel
> something's missing but it's tough to define! He hears melody in drumming,
> though, and I don't, so it may be a perceptual difference and I'm the one
> who's less perceptive!
>
> Karen




I think rap has a very distinct beat (dada da DA) that is unique in itself.
Rap is very distinguishable from rock, jazz, country, soul, classical, etc..
Maybe you could have a variety of music to play all at once (one at a time)
and point out the differences.
Also, don't rap "singers" usually "talk" the lyrics instead of singing them
melodically?
That's the main difference that I think of.

Karin

Karen

Oh, I'd forgotten about justifying margins by hand. What lovely memories...
not!

I know what you mean by your last sentence. I want to learn Spanish. There's
a free class (except for the book) offered at my church, so I've gone twice
now. After last night, that's it. The teacher can't stand being interrupted
by questions. I'm visual, so I have to know how to spell a word before I can
internalize it. I kept asking about grammar and verb tense when the others
were working on Como esta usted. I think I saw little wisps of steam coming
out her ears when I asked how about the inflection on a sentence. Apparently
her agenda doesn't include real students! So I'll continue to unschool
myself as I have so far, much more happily!

Karen
-----Original Message-----
From: SandraDodd@... [mailto:SandraDodd@...]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] syllable



In a message dated 5/17/02 7:01:21 AM, kbmatlock@... writes:

<< And really, once you understand the concept, why do you have to
know where to divide the word? >>

With word processors it's not nearly as necessary. We used to have to
know
where to hyphenate, when typing. Especially when justifying margins (by
hand, counting half-spaces, an archaic art I'm glad to see go!!).

It helps sometimes to be able to separate syllables to split the word out
into its meaningful parts (to figure out what a long word means), but the
hyphenation of words follows what will make it pronounceable for a reader,
not what its linguistic parts are.

(I'm babbling, but as one who does kinda like to dissect words and
sentences,
I know why *I* would like to know, but I agree that most people don't need
to
know.)

Sandra

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moonmeghan

<<<<--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., "Karen" <kbmatlock@a...> wrote:
He hears melody in drumming,
> though, and I don't, so it may be a perceptual difference and I'm
the one
> who's less perceptive!
>
> Karen>>>>


I can relate to your son on this one. I can also hear melody in
drumming. Maybe that's why I'm one of the few people I know at
my age who likes rave and rap music. There's a song called
Phat Planet by Leftfield (they used it in a guiness advert in the
UK) that I find incredibly melodic and beautiful, and it's mostly
drumming. Your son may like that one, although it's not rap, but
rave music.

Meghan