Re: unschooling as principles to live by
[email protected]
In a message dated 2/13/2002 11:31:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
for people who feel like they can't get a grip on how to USE what all the
unschoolers are saying.
It is a philosophy of how to live life. But not an educational method.
You have to read and think and observe (other unschoolers, yourself, your
kids, other families, etc.) and begin to understand the principles involved
in unschooling. And then you just live your life according to those
principles. They aren't "rules" -- they are general principles that we live
by.
So - maybe we'd be more helpful if we were more explicit about our own
underyling beliefs/principles:
For me, number one is that humans learn. (Remember the John Holt quote - Fish
fly, etc.? ---somebody repost that, please?)
Because I believe this, that humans are hardwired to be learning machines, I
don't have to worry about motivating the kids to want to learn. I just have
to be there to provide help and support and create an enriching environment.
They'll take care of the learning part themselves.
And, if they didn't appear to be wanting to learn stuff, what I'd do is look
for what was BLOCKING that NATURAL aspect of their human nature. I wouldn't
think I needed to make them learn. I might, however, look at my own behavior
to see if I was doing something that they were resisting against. Or if there
was something else going on in their lives like that.
That's just my number one principle of unschooling. A LOT flows from that one
thing. Maybe other people could come up with others.
--pamS
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[email protected] writes:
> The other problem for me is organizing all of your wisdom into a workablePat -- this unschooling stuff is not a "method." THAT is the problem I think,
> plan. You mention so much in passing and in answering specific questions.
> It flows. Well, to my simple way of thinking it flows right through me!
> At least it is not going over my head. <g>
for people who feel like they can't get a grip on how to USE what all the
unschoolers are saying.
It is a philosophy of how to live life. But not an educational method.
You have to read and think and observe (other unschoolers, yourself, your
kids, other families, etc.) and begin to understand the principles involved
in unschooling. And then you just live your life according to those
principles. They aren't "rules" -- they are general principles that we live
by.
So - maybe we'd be more helpful if we were more explicit about our own
underyling beliefs/principles:
For me, number one is that humans learn. (Remember the John Holt quote - Fish
fly, etc.? ---somebody repost that, please?)
Because I believe this, that humans are hardwired to be learning machines, I
don't have to worry about motivating the kids to want to learn. I just have
to be there to provide help and support and create an enriching environment.
They'll take care of the learning part themselves.
And, if they didn't appear to be wanting to learn stuff, what I'd do is look
for what was BLOCKING that NATURAL aspect of their human nature. I wouldn't
think I needed to make them learn. I might, however, look at my own behavior
to see if I was doing something that they were resisting against. Or if there
was something else going on in their lives like that.
That's just my number one principle of unschooling. A LOT flows from that one
thing. Maybe other people could come up with others.
--pamS
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Pat Cald...
From: PSoroosh@...
There could be a *method* to making an enriched environment. It doesn't change the basic *philosophy* of how to *use* the environment, however, having a method could result in having a richer environment. Once a method is outlined it can be improved upon. I think that is really what I am looking for. A method or outline to an enriched environment and enriching experiences.
Pat
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>Because I believe this, that humans are hardwired to be learning >machines, I don't have to worry about motivating the kids to want to >learn. I just have to be there to provide help and support and create an >enriching environment. They'll take care of the learning part themselves.I believe this but I think that people will be motivated to learn mostly in the areas that interest them. This is fine, however, there is a lot to be exposed to that they may never reach for on their own even if they are motivated to learn.
There could be a *method* to making an enriched environment. It doesn't change the basic *philosophy* of how to *use* the environment, however, having a method could result in having a richer environment. Once a method is outlined it can be improved upon. I think that is really what I am looking for. A method or outline to an enriched environment and enriching experiences.
Pat
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[email protected]
<< I believe this but I think that people will be motivated to learn mostly
in the areas that interest them. This is fine, however, there is a lot to be
exposed to that they may never reach for on their own even if they are
motivated to learn. >>
Then you find interesting entrances to those areas.
There is a connect-the-dots thing to do. There is math in the Civil War.
There is science in poetry.
The mom needs to learn those things before she can see her children
discovering them.
<<There could be a *method* to making an enriched environment. It doesn't
change the basic *philosophy* of how to *use* the environment, however,
having a method could result in having a richer environment. Once a method
is outlined it can be improved upon. >>
Every day for ten years I have spent time making an enriched environment for
parents learning about unschooling. Every day dozens of moms are doing that.
<< A method or outline to an enriched environment and enriching experiences.>>
Have you read the essays linked at sandradodd.com/articles and
sandradodd.com/unschooling peace?
Have you read at www.unschooling.com?
You need to get on the bike and ride.
<<This is fine, however, there is a lot to be exposed to that they may never
reach for on their own even if they are motivated to learn. >>
This is true of kids in school, right?
What is your motivation to learn about unschooling?
Sandra
in the areas that interest them. This is fine, however, there is a lot to be
exposed to that they may never reach for on their own even if they are
motivated to learn. >>
Then you find interesting entrances to those areas.
There is a connect-the-dots thing to do. There is math in the Civil War.
There is science in poetry.
The mom needs to learn those things before she can see her children
discovering them.
<<There could be a *method* to making an enriched environment. It doesn't
change the basic *philosophy* of how to *use* the environment, however,
having a method could result in having a richer environment. Once a method
is outlined it can be improved upon. >>
Every day for ten years I have spent time making an enriched environment for
parents learning about unschooling. Every day dozens of moms are doing that.
<< A method or outline to an enriched environment and enriching experiences.>>
Have you read the essays linked at sandradodd.com/articles and
sandradodd.com/unschooling peace?
Have you read at www.unschooling.com?
You need to get on the bike and ride.
<<This is fine, however, there is a lot to be exposed to that they may never
reach for on their own even if they are motivated to learn. >>
This is true of kids in school, right?
What is your motivation to learn about unschooling?
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 2/14/02 1:31:54 PM, SandraDodd@... writes:
<< Then you find interesting entrances to those areas.
There is a connect-the-dots thing to do. There is math in the Civil War.
There is science in poetry.
The mom needs to learn those things before she can see her children
discovering them. >>
Yes. And also - and I think this is another fundamental of unschooling - is
to remember that they are discovering things EVEN IF you don't see it.
I know my kids know lots of things I don't know they know.
Paula
<< Then you find interesting entrances to those areas.
There is a connect-the-dots thing to do. There is math in the Civil War.
There is science in poetry.
The mom needs to learn those things before she can see her children
discovering them. >>
Yes. And also - and I think this is another fundamental of unschooling - is
to remember that they are discovering things EVEN IF you don't see it.
I know my kids know lots of things I don't know they know.
Paula
Tia Leschke
>There's no way under the sun that you could expose your kids to everything
> >Because I believe this, that humans are hardwired to be
> learning >machines, I don't have to worry about motivating the kids to
> want to >learn. I just have to be there to provide help and support and
> create an >enriching environment. They'll take care of the learning part
> themselves.
>I believe this but I think that people will be motivated to learn mostly
>in the areas that interest them. This is fine, however, there is a lot to
>be exposed to that they may never reach for on their own even if they are
>motivated to learn.
there is to be exposed to. Even if you classify stuff as good or bad and
only expose them to the good, you can't do it. The reason we help them to
learn the stuff that interests them is that what interests them always
leads to something else, and that to something else, and on and on. Nobody
can possibly learn everything, but this way they learn what *they* need to
know. And in doing so, they learn *how* to learn.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
Tia Leschke
>My son surprises me like that all the time. Most people looking at his
>I know my kids know lots of things I don't know they know.
life would say he isn't learning much. I've even gone through stages where
I agreed with them. Lately I've really been able to step back and see just
how much he's learning. It's wonderful. It doesn't look at all like
school. It doesn't even look much like most of the unschoolers I
know. And I know he's going to be just fine.
Tia
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Eleanor Roosevelt
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Tia Leschke
leschke@...
On Vancouver Island
[email protected]
In a message dated 2/14/2002 11:47:22 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
I wrote:
to learn some stuff when it interests them, but that that is not enough. That
is not any different than any curriculum-user or school-teacher believes.
They believe that kids will learn all kinds of stuff on their own when
they're interested, but that they need to be forced to learn some things that
they won't choose to learn about on their own.
That is really different than what I believe.
First - there are going to be very cool things that they'll never learn
anything about. That's reality. NONE of us are going to learn much about most
stuff in the world...there is only so much time. So - another principle of
unschooling --- "There will be gaps. Let 'em be."
Second - Kids want to be competent and if there are things they really do
need to learn, to help them join the adult world, to help them feel competent
in their world, they will be interested EVENTUALLY. It helps to make a list,
for yourself, of what you really truly think is ESSENTIAL for them to learn.
Make the list and write a justification for everything on the list. If you
really do have things on that list that you really don't think your kid will
ever be interested in - then I guess that's the stuff you have to insist on,
eventually. But - remember - they don't have to learn it when they're young.
Roxana is 14 and had NO interest in math for years. None. But now she likes
it and is learning algebra with no problem at all.
Third - everything is connected. An interest in musical theater can lead to
an interest in CATS which can lead to an interest in cats (the actual
animals) which can lead to an interest in cat breeding which can lead to an
interest in genetics which can lead to an interest in DNA which can lead to
an interest in Jurassic Park books which can lead to an interest in dinosaurs
which can lead to an interest in whatever happens to come up when we go to
the Natural History Museum sometime in the next few weeks. One thing leads
to another. There is no way to plan that.
of and responsive to your own kids. It means, for example, noticing that
your child REALLY likes to build stuff -- and providing materials for that.
It means learning to stay out of the way when a child is exploring and
investigating and learning to step in and offer new ideas, information, or
advice when the time is right. It means keeping an eye out for things that
the kids might like to have or do or see or places to go.
I have an idea. Make an "idea book" yourself. Maybe a set of index cards is a
good way to start. You write all your ideas of cool things the kids could do
- each on a card. You and the kids could go through the cards and pick out
cool things to do this week or today. Let the kids make cards too.
If you're at all imaginative, you'll need to buy your index cards at an
office supply warehouse store -- you'll have thousands of idea cards within a
few months. <g>
--pam
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[email protected] writes:
I wrote:
> >Because I believe this, that humans are hardwired to be learning >machines,Pat wrote:
> I don't have to worry about motivating the kids to want to >learn. I just
> have to be there to provide help and support and create an >enriching
> environment. They'll take care of the learning part themselves.
> I believe this but I think that people will be motivated to learn mostly inWell - there's the crux of it -- you believe they'll SOMETIMES be motivated
> the areas that interest them. This is fine, however, there is a lot to be
> exposed to that they may never reach for on their own even if they are
> motivated to learn.
>
to learn some stuff when it interests them, but that that is not enough. That
is not any different than any curriculum-user or school-teacher believes.
They believe that kids will learn all kinds of stuff on their own when
they're interested, but that they need to be forced to learn some things that
they won't choose to learn about on their own.
That is really different than what I believe.
First - there are going to be very cool things that they'll never learn
anything about. That's reality. NONE of us are going to learn much about most
stuff in the world...there is only so much time. So - another principle of
unschooling --- "There will be gaps. Let 'em be."
Second - Kids want to be competent and if there are things they really do
need to learn, to help them join the adult world, to help them feel competent
in their world, they will be interested EVENTUALLY. It helps to make a list,
for yourself, of what you really truly think is ESSENTIAL for them to learn.
Make the list and write a justification for everything on the list. If you
really do have things on that list that you really don't think your kid will
ever be interested in - then I guess that's the stuff you have to insist on,
eventually. But - remember - they don't have to learn it when they're young.
Roxana is 14 and had NO interest in math for years. None. But now she likes
it and is learning algebra with no problem at all.
Third - everything is connected. An interest in musical theater can lead to
an interest in CATS which can lead to an interest in cats (the actual
animals) which can lead to an interest in cat breeding which can lead to an
interest in genetics which can lead to an interest in DNA which can lead to
an interest in Jurassic Park books which can lead to an interest in dinosaurs
which can lead to an interest in whatever happens to come up when we go to
the Natural History Museum sometime in the next few weeks. One thing leads
to another. There is no way to plan that.
> There could be a *method* to making an enriched environment. It doesn'tOkay - a method for creating an enriched environment is to be very observant
> change the basic *philosophy* of how to *use* the environment, however,
> having a method could result in having a richer environment. Once a method
> is outlined it can be improved upon. I think that is really what I am
> looking for. A method or outline to an enriched environment and enriching
> experiences.
of and responsive to your own kids. It means, for example, noticing that
your child REALLY likes to build stuff -- and providing materials for that.
It means learning to stay out of the way when a child is exploring and
investigating and learning to step in and offer new ideas, information, or
advice when the time is right. It means keeping an eye out for things that
the kids might like to have or do or see or places to go.
I have an idea. Make an "idea book" yourself. Maybe a set of index cards is a
good way to start. You write all your ideas of cool things the kids could do
- each on a card. You and the kids could go through the cards and pick out
cool things to do this week or today. Let the kids make cards too.
If you're at all imaginative, you'll need to buy your index cards at an
office supply warehouse store -- you'll have thousands of idea cards within a
few months. <g>
--pam
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[email protected]
In a message dated 2/14/02 3:41:42 PM, PSoroosh@... writes:
<< If you're at all imaginative, you'll need to buy your index cards at an
office supply warehouse store -- >>
My first thought was What's So Imaginative about THAT!?
If you're REALLY imaginative, you'll buy your index cards at someplace OTHER
than an office supply store, but then I thought no... that's not what she
means. <bwg>
Sandra
<< If you're at all imaginative, you'll need to buy your index cards at an
office supply warehouse store -- >>
My first thought was What's So Imaginative about THAT!?
If you're REALLY imaginative, you'll buy your index cards at someplace OTHER
than an office supply store, but then I thought no... that's not what she
means. <bwg>
Sandra
[email protected]
snip>>>A method or outline to an enriched environment and enriching
experiences>>>
What is enriching? Is it better to play with cuisennaire blocks than to
play Candy Land? Is it better to do something than to do nothing?
At one time I would have said "yes", but now I say "it depends".
I think I understand what you are asking re: enriched, but I'm beginning
to think there is a lot of value judgement in that question. Not picking
on you, this is something I've been thinking about. For example, playing
classical music in order to "enrich" my child's life rather than singing
along with the Beattle's and telling my kids things that I know about
them and their music, because I'm more familiar with the Beattle's than
with classical. I'm not sure that we can really say that one of those
activities would be more enriching than the other. I do believe that
classical music has value and we do listen to it as well, but is it
really more "enriching" than modern popular music? Or maybe you mean
something else by that term?
For me, unschooling feels a little like "learning how to live" after
decades of school and paid workforce determining how I spent the majority
of my time. Now I'm SAHM with SAHK's (stay at home kids :-)and I have to
figure out how to live (spend my time). I got some good ideas from a
book called Wishcraft. The author has exercises that helped me figure
out some of the things I want to be doing and I have/am doing some of
them. Isn't it enriching for a child to be around adults who are really
living?
Gotta go help 9yo make slice and bake cookies (which I don't like but
that's OK, it's easy for me to not eat them) but she really wanted me to
buy them for her to make and I remember that I learned how to bake with
Betty Crocker and can cook pretty well now. Oh, and she just gave me a
lesson on how to eat miniature reeses pb cups. The old me would have
been horrified that she's eating candy and not making cookies from
scratch but the new me is trying to just revel in how she goes about
things!
Mary Ellen
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experiences>>>
What is enriching? Is it better to play with cuisennaire blocks than to
play Candy Land? Is it better to do something than to do nothing?
At one time I would have said "yes", but now I say "it depends".
I think I understand what you are asking re: enriched, but I'm beginning
to think there is a lot of value judgement in that question. Not picking
on you, this is something I've been thinking about. For example, playing
classical music in order to "enrich" my child's life rather than singing
along with the Beattle's and telling my kids things that I know about
them and their music, because I'm more familiar with the Beattle's than
with classical. I'm not sure that we can really say that one of those
activities would be more enriching than the other. I do believe that
classical music has value and we do listen to it as well, but is it
really more "enriching" than modern popular music? Or maybe you mean
something else by that term?
For me, unschooling feels a little like "learning how to live" after
decades of school and paid workforce determining how I spent the majority
of my time. Now I'm SAHM with SAHK's (stay at home kids :-)and I have to
figure out how to live (spend my time). I got some good ideas from a
book called Wishcraft. The author has exercises that helped me figure
out some of the things I want to be doing and I have/am doing some of
them. Isn't it enriching for a child to be around adults who are really
living?
Gotta go help 9yo make slice and bake cookies (which I don't like but
that's OK, it's easy for me to not eat them) but she really wanted me to
buy them for her to make and I remember that I learned how to bake with
Betty Crocker and can cook pretty well now. Oh, and she just gave me a
lesson on how to eat miniature reeses pb cups. The old me would have
been horrified that she's eating candy and not making cookies from
scratch but the new me is trying to just revel in how she goes about
things!
Mary Ellen
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[email protected]
megates@... made some good points but still I'm inspired to play devil's
advocate:
I've played, and we have one ($2 from a thrift store), but there's nothing to
it but matching unattractive colors and taking turns.
If "doing nothing" is daydreaming, planning or meditation, nothing's fine.
If nothing is NOTHING, wishing to be in school instead of home bored, wishing
there was something interesting to do instead of watching the same video
*again,* I vote YES.
Listening to classical isn't better than the Beatles. But listening to BOTH
of them is better than listening to neither of them.
<< Isn't it enriching for a child to be around adults who are really
living?>>
I think so. But some adults live at the expense of children. They spend
money on themselves but tell the kids "we can't afford it" about things the
kids REALLY might like to have, and could use--back yard play equipment, or
bikes, or whatever those kids would spend hours with if they had them. Some
adults feel they can only live when the kids are doing something somewhere
else.
I think stuff, activities and interactions are better than the lack of them.
I do agree, though, that it's likely that new unschoolers will think
"enriched" has to do with leaning toward schoolishness or "value." But I
think a globe is more important that the current issue of Tiger Beat. Of
these four things: nothing, tiger beat, a globe, both--I'd rather have both!
Second choice, a globe. Last choice, nothing.
There is a value judgment, I suppose. I would never banish the Beatles. But
I wouldn't say "Tiger Beat is as good as a globe, so I'm not buying a globe."
Sandra,
apparently some kind of globe-worshiping Beatles fan
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advocate:
> ? Is it better to play with cuisennaire blocks than toI think so. I think Candy Land is a cheap, foul little piece of bad art.
> play Candy Land? Is it better to do something than to do nothing?
>
>
I've played, and we have one ($2 from a thrift store), but there's nothing to
it but matching unattractive colors and taking turns.
If "doing nothing" is daydreaming, planning or meditation, nothing's fine.
If nothing is NOTHING, wishing to be in school instead of home bored, wishing
there was something interesting to do instead of watching the same video
*again,* I vote YES.
Listening to classical isn't better than the Beatles. But listening to BOTH
of them is better than listening to neither of them.
<< Isn't it enriching for a child to be around adults who are really
living?>>
I think so. But some adults live at the expense of children. They spend
money on themselves but tell the kids "we can't afford it" about things the
kids REALLY might like to have, and could use--back yard play equipment, or
bikes, or whatever those kids would spend hours with if they had them. Some
adults feel they can only live when the kids are doing something somewhere
else.
I think stuff, activities and interactions are better than the lack of them.
I do agree, though, that it's likely that new unschoolers will think
"enriched" has to do with leaning toward schoolishness or "value." But I
think a globe is more important that the current issue of Tiger Beat. Of
these four things: nothing, tiger beat, a globe, both--I'd rather have both!
Second choice, a globe. Last choice, nothing.
There is a value judgment, I suppose. I would never banish the Beatles. But
I wouldn't say "Tiger Beat is as good as a globe, so I'm not buying a globe."
Sandra,
apparently some kind of globe-worshiping Beatles fan
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Jorgen & Ann
>I think so. I think Candy Land is a cheap, foul little piece of bad art.My daughter used to like to stack the deck for Candy Land. Then see if it
>
>I've played, and we have one ($2 from a thrift store), but there's nothing to
>
>it but matching unattractive colors and taking turns.
worked out the way she thought it would.
She wanted to play yesterday but realized that she had taken out all the
picture cards for something else and couldn't remember where they were. So
she decided that the first time someone drew a double, that person could
move to any candy space on the board. That was pretty boring. Next she made
a chart matching each color to one of the candy spaces. When we drew
doubles, we moved to the corresponding candy spaces.
I think the graphics have gotten even uglier over the years. My mom gave
the kids the game and told me that now I would have to suffer like she did.
That's my mom!
Ann
[email protected]
I have actually always liked Candy Land. I thought playing the actual game
was boring, but my little sister and I liked (and still like) to make up
stories about the characters in the game.
And I rather like the graphics, myself.
--Roxana
was boring, but my little sister and I liked (and still like) to make up
stories about the characters in the game.
And I rather like the graphics, myself.
--Roxana
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> >I think so. I think Candy Land is a cheap, foul little piece of bad art.
> >
> >I've played, and we have one ($2 from a thrift store), but there's nothing
> to
> >
> >it but matching unattractive colors and taking turns.
>
> My daughter used to like to stack the deck for Candy Land. Then see if it
> worked out the way she thought it would.
>
> She wanted to play yesterday but realized that she had taken out all the
> picture cards for something else and couldn't remember where they were. So
> she decided that the first time someone drew a double, that person could
> move to any candy space on the board. That was pretty boring. Next she made
> a chart matching each color to one of the candy spaces. When we drew
> doubles, we moved to the corresponding candy spaces.
>
> I think the graphics have gotten even uglier over the years. My mom gave
> the kids the game and told me that now I would have to suffer like she did.
> That's my mom!
>
> Ann
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It's a good game for my 3 year old, who likes to play board games but
just is not ready for sorry or monopoly. Idon't mind it so much, it's
quick too.
Joylyn
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just is not ready for sorry or monopoly. Idon't mind it so much, it's
quick too.
Joylyn
LutraPearl@... wrote:
>ADVERTISEMENT
> I have actually always liked Candy Land. I thought playing the actual
> game
> was boring, but my little sister and I liked (and still like) to make
> up
> stories about the characters in the game.
>
> And I rather like the graphics, myself.
>
> --Roxana
>
>
> >
> >
> > >I think so. I think Candy Land is a cheap, foul little piece of
> bad art.
> > >
> > >I've played, and we have one ($2 from a thrift store), but there's
> nothing
> > to
> > >
> > >it but matching unattractive colors and taking turns.
> >
> > My daughter used to like to stack the deck for Candy Land. Then see
> if it
> > worked out the way she thought it would.
> >
> > She wanted to play yesterday but realized that she had taken out all
> the
> > picture cards for something else and couldn't remember where they
> were. So
> > she decided that the first time someone drew a double, that person
> could
> > move to any candy space on the board. That was pretty boring. Next
> she made
> > a chart matching each color to one of the candy spaces. When we drew
>
> > doubles, we moved to the corresponding candy spaces.
> >
> > I think the graphics have gotten even uglier over the years. My mom
> gave
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>It's a good game for my 3 year old, who likes to playWe have this game set from Hearthsong. I love
>board games but just is not ready for sorry or
>monopoly. I don't mind it so much, it's quick too.
>Joylyn
Hearthsong. My boys have little patience for games
and my three year old loves the set I have linked
below. It is four beginners board games (on two
reversible boards) in one box for 20 bucks. There is
matching, memory, colors, counting, etc, in the
various games. The die in the set is a 6 sided one
with different colors on every side rather than
numbers. Check out the other games at Hearthsong too,
as they have some really awesome ones for younger
kids.
If the link doesn't work, just go to hearthsong.com
and look for the "First Four Games" set.
http://www.hearthsong.com/shop/product.cfm?icat_item_num=04729
Nanci K.
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In a message dated 2/16/02 1:19:38 PM, aisliin@... writes:
<< If the link doesn't work, just go to hearthsong.com
and look for the "First Four Games" set. >>
We have that too, and it is so much sweeter, maybe that's why I didn't have
sufficient need for the benefits of Candyland.
Sandra
<< If the link doesn't work, just go to hearthsong.com
and look for the "First Four Games" set. >>
We have that too, and it is so much sweeter, maybe that's why I didn't have
sufficient need for the benefits of Candyland.
Sandra
Marietta Shirk
Along this same line we love Harvest Time
http://kumquat.com/cgi-kumquat/funagain/00600
and Max
http://kumquat.com/cgi-kumquat/funagain/00813?PpKjY5to;;52
both "cooperative" games.
I even have a review of Max posted there! (my first internet fame lol)
Marietta
Matthew 4 1/2
Alexander 1
http://kumquat.com/cgi-kumquat/funagain/00600
and Max
http://kumquat.com/cgi-kumquat/funagain/00813?PpKjY5to;;52
both "cooperative" games.
I even have a review of Max posted there! (my first internet fame lol)
Marietta
Matthew 4 1/2
Alexander 1
> >It's a good game for my 3 year old, who likes to play
> >board games but just is not ready for sorry or
> >monopoly. I don't mind it so much, it's quick too.
> >Joylyn
>
> We have this game set from Hearthsong. I love
> Hearthsong. My boys have little patience for games
> and my three year old loves the set I have linked
> below. It is four beginners board games (on two
> reversible boards) in one box for 20 bucks. There is
> matching, memory, colors, counting, etc, in the
> various games. The die in the set is a 6 sided one
> with different colors on every side rather than
> numbers. Check out the other games at Hearthsong too,
> as they have some really awesome ones for younger
> kids.
>
> If the link doesn't work, just go to hearthsong.com
> and look for the "First Four Games" set.
>
> http://www.hearthsong.com/shop/product.cfm?icat_item_num=04729
>
> Nanci K.
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--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Nanci Kuykendall <aisliin@y...>
wrote:
and it's been a huge hit. All the kids we hang out with from 3 1/2
to 10 have liked to play it (over and over!). It's a game *I* actually
enjoyed playing as well. Also it's a cooperative game, so winning
and losing isn't an issue.
Meghan
wrote:
> >It's a good game for my 3 year old, who likes to playCheck out the other games at Hearthsong too,
> >board games but just is not ready for sorry or
> >monopoly. I don't mind it so much, it's quick too.
> >Joylyn
>
> as they have some really awesome ones for youngerWe have Rainbowland from Hearthsong. Tamzin got it for Xmas
> kids.
> Nanci K.
>
and it's been a huge hit. All the kids we hang out with from 3 1/2
to 10 have liked to play it (over and over!). It's a game *I* actually
enjoyed playing as well. Also it's a cooperative game, so winning
and losing isn't an issue.
Meghan
Nanci Kuykendall
>>Check out the other games at Hearthsong too,We have that one too, but it's a bit too complex for
>> as they have some really awesome ones for younger
>> kids.
>> Nanci K.
>
>We have Rainbowland from Hearthsong. Tamzin got it
>for Xmas and it's been a huge hit.
>Meghan
my boys yet. They are not big into games unless they
are quick and instant gratification. They have no
patience yet. My nieces were so excited about it that
they borrowed it though.
Nanci K.
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If you want quick and active there's a game called Puppy Racers which
involves lots of pounding LOL. My 1 yr old AND 4 1/2 yr old love it.
Marietta
Matthew 4 1/2
Alexander 1
involves lots of pounding LOL. My 1 yr old AND 4 1/2 yr old love it.
Marietta
Matthew 4 1/2
Alexander 1
> We have that one too, but it's a bit too complex for
> my boys yet. They are not big into games unless they
> are quick and instant gratification. They have no
> patience yet. My nieces were so excited about it that
> they borrowed it though.
>
> Nanci K.