Heather Madrone

--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Tia Leschke <leschke@i...> wrote:
> >So why are you so good at the Great Dalmuti?
> >
> >My younger daughter and I have taken to playing a cooperative version
> >of the Bean Game. We try to see how many coins we can get
>collectively
> >by the end of the game. It was her idea, and it works really well.
>
>So what is the Great Dalmuti, and what's the Bean Game?

The Great Dalmuti is an out-of-print (I think) Richard Garfield
game. It's the most unfair game in the world. Those that has
gets and those that don't have to pay taxes. It's a great party
game.

At the annual Crawdad Festival (a Northern California homeschooling
party that goes for a whole weekend in September), I stayed up
with the teenagers and played until the wee hours of the morning.
I told the other adults that I was the chaperone, but I turned
into a teenager as soon as they left the room.

Unschooling teenagers are so much fun.

The Bean Game is really called Bohnanza and is put out by Rio
Grande. You're a bean farmer planting and harvesting beans.
The bean cards make me smile. It's a good game to play while
you're chatting with friends.

> >When we first started, I'd feel hurt if my kids rejected my
> >offerings. It's much easier now to offer them things with no
> >strings attached.
>
>How did you work through that one, because it's still a problem for
>me?

Hmmm. How did I?

One thing I did was to just leave things around casually instead
of offering them directly. Thus, if the kids didn't pick them
up, I could tell myself they hadn't noticed them instead of
taking it personally.

I also have Negative First Reaction kids, so they rejected things
a lot. This gave me a lot of practice in breathing through
rejection. Often they would later pick up whatever it was,
but not until after they'd insisted that it was something they'd
never be interested in.

Also, I'd try to look at things analytically. Often, the kids
were right. I was offering them something stupid, or I was
offering it to them at a bad time, or in some other way blowing
it.

I got better at offering in a sensitive way, without pushing.
My kids don't like pushing at all. They'll push back almost
every single time.

And, y'know, it's no big deal if they reject one of my ideas.
It's just a thing. It's better to do things that everyone
enjoys.

Things do tend to come around on the guitar, if I wait long
enough. Every fall, I've said that I'd enjoy Family Nature
Walks and our local Homeschooling Choir. Every year, the kids
would tell me that they'd hate those activities, so we didn't do
them. This year, the kids said that, yes, those sounded like
great activities.

It also probably helps that there are four of them. If I
offer something, chances are that at least one of them will
take me up on it.

Heather Madrone <heather@...> http://www.madrone.com
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You can lead a child to learning, but you can't make her think.

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In a message dated 2/3/02 11:00:05 PM, heather@... writes:

<< The Great Dalmuti is an out-of-print (I think) Richard Garfield
game. It's the most unfair game in the world. Those that has
gets and those that don't have to pay taxes. It's a great party
game. >>

And one variation (the only one my kids want to play) involves wearing hats.
You gather up odd/cool hats, and the people get to pick by rank, or else
there are hats designated to represent the top two guys and the bottom few,
and the rest only change if you're winning or losing.

I didn't know it was out of print.

Sandra

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On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 01:16:58 EST SandraDodd@... writes:
> In a message dated 2/3/02 11:00:05 PM, heather@... writes:
>
> << The Great Dalmuti is an out-of-print (I think) Richard Garfield
> game. It's the most unfair game in the world. Those that has
> gets and those that don't have to pay taxes. It's a great party
> game. >>
>
> And one variation (the only one my kids want to play) involves wearing
hats.
> You gather up odd/cool hats, and the people get to pick by rank, or
else
> there are hats designated to represent the top two guys and the bottom
few,
> and the rest only change if you're winning or losing.

We usually have hats for the dalmutis and the peons, and ragged old
shirts from the rag bag, and whatever else people come up with. It's a
very creative game... and sometimes the merchants decide what they're
selling, a lower merchant might be a tinker selling old pots and pans,
the highest merchant sells jewels, stuff like that... and the peons get
to grovel and the dalmutis get to act imperious. Oh, and we usually have
appropriate seating for everyone, the dalmutis get padded chairs and the
peons get an old woodn box, or sometimes the piano bench if they're
lucky... it's all fun.
>
> I didn't know it was out of print.
>
Yeah, within the past year or so. You can get it on ebay still,
usually...

Dar
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 21:42:34 -0800 Heather Madrone <heather@...>
writes:
> The Bean Game is really called Bohnanza and is put out by Rio
> Grande. You're a bean farmer planting and harvesting beans.
> The bean cards make me smile. It's a good game to play while
> you're chatting with friends.

There's a new game by the same guy that created Bohnanza, don't know if I
mentioned it. It's called Space Beans, we got it for Christmas.. it's
different, there's no trading so the interaction i a bit different, but
we still liked it. Each card has a drawing from a different scifi movie
on it, so there are darthvaderbeans and halbeans and worfbeans, but there
are some we have yet to figure out... so we plan to bring it to the
Crawdad fest, and any earlier northern California get-togethers...

I'm starting to feel excited about returning to California, now that it's
only a month or so. Maybe I'll add a yippie-ki-oh sig file ;-)

Dar
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Well, it depends where in Cali you are.
Maybe it should be
Dar, who soon will be saying, like, ya know man, like, wow.
Elissa, who will soon be singing
Yippee - Kai - Yay!
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Date: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Fwd: Games: was experience


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>On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 21:42:34 -0800 Heather Madrone <heather@...>
>writes:
>> The Bean Game is really called Bohnanza and is put out by Rio
>> Grande. You're a bean farmer planting and harvesting beans.
>> The bean cards make me smile. It's a good game to play while
>> you're chatting with friends.
>
>There's a new game by the same guy that created Bohnanza, don't know if I
>mentioned it. It's called Space Beans, we got it for Christmas.. it's
>different, there's no trading so the interaction i a bit different, but
>we still liked it. Each card has a drawing from a different scifi movie
>on it, so there are darthvaderbeans and halbeans and worfbeans, but there
>are some we have yet to figure out... so we plan to bring it to the
>Crawdad fest, and any earlier northern California get-togethers...
>
>I'm starting to feel excited about returning to California, now that it's
>only a month or so. Maybe I'll add a yippie-ki-oh sig file ;-)
>
>Dar
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:58:50 -0500 <ElissaJC@...> writes:
> Well, it depends where in Cali you are.
> Maybe it should be
> Dar, who soon will be saying, like, ya know man, like, wow.

:-) Well, we can visit there... we'll be living on a farm sort of in the
middle of nowhere, but within a couple of hours of lots of somewheres.

"Hi, ho, the merry-oh"?

That doesn't quite convey the right image..

Dar
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