Kim H

Hi there,

I'm needing advice, once again. Lewi is 6 and a half and for the past few months has developed a real interest for Warhammer. He's put his first set on lay by and we're trying to get hold of a rule book off ebay. I want him to have the freedom to go with this interest to wherever he wants to go. That's what the theoreist unschooler in me says (and I'm pretty sure you'd all agree). The little voice inside of me though keeps saying: but he's far, far too young (Warhammer's really aimed at teenagers) and it's SO expensive to experiment with it if it's only going to last 5 minutes.

I have a really good idea what the responses to this will be, and I really am in need of them as I'm finding it hard to be fuller free (inside my head at least) on this one and I want to be fully free.

Also, are there any other younger kids, like Lewi, who do Warhammer and understand it?

Thanks so much

Kim
Who's uptight about feeling restriction in my head again

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Cally Brown

I have a friend whose son got interested in Warhammer around 8. Spent
lots of money but then went off it. Yikes! all that money!

But he's 12 now and well back into it. So it wasn't wasted anyway.

So maybe Lewi will stick with it, maybe he won't. Maybe he will ditch it
for good, maybe he will come back to it.

If you restrict his interests on the basis of cost and maybes, what will
he be able to do? Is there anything that couldn't be denied on this sort
of basis?

Cally

marji

At 17:12 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>I have a really good idea what the responses to
>this will be, and I really am in need of them as
>I'm finding it hard to be fuller free (inside my
>head at least) on this one and I want to be fully free.


I don't have any experience at all with Warhammer
(I don't even know what it is!), but I do know
that, my limited funds notwithstanding, there is
nothing I will not do my best to get for my son
(11½ years old) if he's really interested in it,
especially if he seems to demonstrate a passion
for it. I'll move heaven and earth to make it
happen if I can. I figure it this way: If he
were in school, all kinds of big-time heaps of
dough (mine and the taxpayers') would be spent on
all kinds of things he's not even really
into! It doesn't really matter if the interest
fizzles and dies; what matters is that he is
exploring these paths that excite him in the
moment, and that's good enough for me and even cause for rejoicing!

~Marji, happy mom of a happy kid

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Sandra Dodd

On May 23, 2006, at 4:35 PM, marji wrote:

> I figure it this way: If he
> were in school, all kinds of big-time heaps of
> dough (mine and the taxpayers') would be spent on
> all kinds of things he's not even really
> into!

Really good point.

Marty played ice hockey one year. It was the most expensive thing
any of my kids have ever done. He wanted to quit for a while, and
after that I felt guilty and tried to encourage him to go again. He
only ever *kinda* wanted to. But he has the memory and experience,
and still goes to skate, still owns hockey skates all the time (when
he wears a pair out or outgrows them, he gets another pair), and if
he wants to skate anytime for the rest of his life, he knows what's
involved.

Kirby reminded me (to my embarrassment) that when he was young there
was a certain scenario/RPG kind of game that I wouldn't buy him
because it involved a lot of reading, and when he was older he ended
up buying it for four times or so more than it would've cost new, on
ebay. A friend of his had promised to give his to Kirby as soon as
Kirby could read, but he just didn't (and when Kirby asked once, he
said yeah, when he found it he would...). I offered to pay for it
(the ebay version), but Kirby had money. He had just wanted to razz
me. I was ashamed, and really wish I had just gotten it for him.
(But at the time I was afraid he would make me read it all to him and
try to play with him, and I also had a two year old and five year old
and was kinda... overwhelmed.)

Sandra

Kim H

If you restrict his interests on the basis of cost and maybes, what will
he be able to do? Is there anything that couldn't be denied on this sort
of basis?


Hi Cally,
Yes, you are sooooo right! I know this in my heart and I say this to others, I just need it said to me when I get into an occassional challenging mindset.

So a big THANKS

Kim
----- Original Message -----
From: Cally Brown
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Warhammer


I have a friend whose son got interested in Warhammer around 8. Spent
lots of money but then went off it. Yikes! all that money!

But he's 12 now and well back into it. So it wasn't wasted anyway.

So maybe Lewi will stick with it, maybe he won't. Maybe he will ditch it
for good, maybe he will come back to it.

If you restrict his interests on the basis of cost and maybes, what will
he be able to do? Is there anything that couldn't be denied on this sort
of basis?

Cally





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Kim H

Thanks Marji!

Kim
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From: marji
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Warhammer




At 17:12 5/23/2006, you wrote:
>I have a really good idea what the responses to
>this will be, and I really am in need of them as
>I'm finding it hard to be fuller free (inside my
>head at least) on this one and I want to be fully free.


I don't have any experience at all with Warhammer
(I don't even know what it is!), but I do know
that, my limited funds notwithstanding, there is
nothing I will not do my best to get for my son
(11½ years old) if he's really interested in it,
especially if he seems to demonstrate a passion
for it. I'll move heaven and earth to make it
happen if I can. I figure it this way: If he
were in school, all kinds of big-time heaps of
dough (mine and the taxpayers') would be spent on
all kinds of things he's not even really
into! It doesn't really matter if the interest
fizzles and dies; what matters is that he is
exploring these paths that excite him in the
moment, and that's good enough for me and even cause for rejoicing!

~Marji, happy mom of a happy kid

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Kim H

Thanks Sandra.

Kim
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From: Sandra Dodd
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Warhammer



On May 23, 2006, at 4:35 PM, marji wrote:

> I figure it this way: If he
> were in school, all kinds of big-time heaps of
> dough (mine and the taxpayers') would be spent on
> all kinds of things he's not even really
> into!

Really good point.

Marty played ice hockey one year. It was the most expensive thing
any of my kids have ever done. He wanted to quit for a while, and
after that I felt guilty and tried to encourage him to go again. He
only ever *kinda* wanted to. But he has the memory and experience,
and still goes to skate, still owns hockey skates all the time (when
he wears a pair out or outgrows them, he gets another pair), and if
he wants to skate anytime for the rest of his life, he knows what's
involved.

Kirby reminded me (to my embarrassment) that when he was young there
was a certain scenario/RPG kind of game that I wouldn't buy him
because it involved a lot of reading, and when he was older he ended
up buying it for four times or so more than it would've cost new, on
ebay. A friend of his had promised to give his to Kirby as soon as
Kirby could read, but he just didn't (and when Kirby asked once, he
said yeah, when he found it he would...). I offered to pay for it
(the ebay version), but Kirby had money. He had just wanted to razz
me. I was ashamed, and really wish I had just gotten it for him.
(But at the time I was afraid he would make me read it all to him and
try to play with him, and I also had a two year old and five year old
and was kinda... overwhelmed.)

Sandra




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