Tarot and Astrology
Dawn Falbe
little basis in evidential fact makes me feel creepy.... Mathematically
speaking,.......Sandra Dodd...
Somebody once wrote "Science is nothing more than a modern
superstition"..... I like this.
I know you didn't mention Astrology, but mentioned Tarot so I just wanted to
make it clear that Astrology is a Science. Astronomy and Astrology were one
and the same up until the Age of Enlightenment. Astrology is also
Mathematical. Astrology has been documented 5000 BC and was mentioned
profusely in the original books now known as the Bible... Of course this is
a very different metaphysical discipline than Tarot. As a Professional
Certified Tarot Instructor it would be very unprofessional to tell people
they've been with people in another life, or to imply something is likely to
happen in the future. I think those are called Fortune Tellers and are
illegal in many states. The job of a Professional Tarot Reader is to
feedback to you hidden matters that the individual needs to work on within
themselves.
As for evidence it's only the scientific community that doesn't recognize
the 6th sense as scientific. I think it's more about fear. I can only
speak for myself but I have on tape in November of last year talking about
George Bush and Al Gore and how George Bush would be the better candidate
for WHEN we went to war. One of the guys on the radio said "don't you mean
IF we went to war" and I said "sorry for some reason WHEN seemed to fit the
bill more than IF"..... I also said, again on tape prior to the event "Al
Gore for some reason will have a hard time leaving the White House, but I
can't figure out why".... Well now we know why....
When JFK Jr's airplane went down, the week before, again on tape we were
talking about the Kennedy's on the radio. I said "that John Jr needed to be
careful flying his airplane especially because of where Mars and Pluto were
transiting in his chart".... I forgot about it until I turn on the
television on a Saturday morning which staying at a hotel with hubby only to
see all this news coverage of his downed airplane.
So what kind of evidence should there be and was that just lucky guesswork
on my part? I don't think so.
I grew up in a family of psychics and Tarot Readers so for me I find it
really strange that everyone doesn't read cards. It must be really unusual
not to have Tarot Cards around and for conversations in the family to center
around the 6th sense and what we are learning with that part of the brain.
Dawn
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Dawn Falbe
Astrologer Coach
(520) 312-5300
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www.astrologerdawn.com
dawn@...
Enlightening you on how to discover and live your Soul Purpose
"The people who get on in this world are people who get up and look for the
circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them." - George
Bernard Shaw
"The only time my education was interrupted was when I was in school" -
George Bernard Shaw
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speaking,.......Sandra Dodd...
Somebody once wrote "Science is nothing more than a modern
superstition"..... I like this.
I know you didn't mention Astrology, but mentioned Tarot so I just wanted to
make it clear that Astrology is a Science. Astronomy and Astrology were one
and the same up until the Age of Enlightenment. Astrology is also
Mathematical. Astrology has been documented 5000 BC and was mentioned
profusely in the original books now known as the Bible... Of course this is
a very different metaphysical discipline than Tarot. As a Professional
Certified Tarot Instructor it would be very unprofessional to tell people
they've been with people in another life, or to imply something is likely to
happen in the future. I think those are called Fortune Tellers and are
illegal in many states. The job of a Professional Tarot Reader is to
feedback to you hidden matters that the individual needs to work on within
themselves.
As for evidence it's only the scientific community that doesn't recognize
the 6th sense as scientific. I think it's more about fear. I can only
speak for myself but I have on tape in November of last year talking about
George Bush and Al Gore and how George Bush would be the better candidate
for WHEN we went to war. One of the guys on the radio said "don't you mean
IF we went to war" and I said "sorry for some reason WHEN seemed to fit the
bill more than IF"..... I also said, again on tape prior to the event "Al
Gore for some reason will have a hard time leaving the White House, but I
can't figure out why".... Well now we know why....
When JFK Jr's airplane went down, the week before, again on tape we were
talking about the Kennedy's on the radio. I said "that John Jr needed to be
careful flying his airplane especially because of where Mars and Pluto were
transiting in his chart".... I forgot about it until I turn on the
television on a Saturday morning which staying at a hotel with hubby only to
see all this news coverage of his downed airplane.
So what kind of evidence should there be and was that just lucky guesswork
on my part? I don't think so.
I grew up in a family of psychics and Tarot Readers so for me I find it
really strange that everyone doesn't read cards. It must be really unusual
not to have Tarot Cards around and for conversations in the family to center
around the 6th sense and what we are learning with that part of the brain.
Dawn
********************
Dawn Falbe
Astrologer Coach
(520) 312-5300
********************
www.astrologerdawn.com
dawn@...
Enlightening you on how to discover and live your Soul Purpose
"The people who get on in this world are people who get up and look for the
circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them." - George
Bernard Shaw
"The only time my education was interrupted was when I was in school" -
George Bernard Shaw
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Kathryn Orlinsky
> As for evidence it's only the scientific community that doesn't recognizeNo, it's more about evidence. What evidence is there that the 6th sense
> the 6th sense as scientific. I think it's more about fear.
exists? You yourself admitted that all those events you predicted could
have been coincidence. You may not think they were coincidence, but you
can't prove they weren't. And it's no good saying that I can't prove
that they *were* coincidence either. If you want to establish something
as a fact, the burden of proof lies on showing that the extraordinary
*does* exist and *not* on proving that it can't exist.
--
Kathy Orlinsky
mailto:kathyorlinsky@...
Fetteroll
on 1/13/02 10:44 AM, Dawn Falbe at dawn@... wrote:
bound to be right.
How many predictions have you made that didn't pan out?
I think if we all grew up in an atmosphere of believing that there were
psychic energies we could tap into that we would be in the habit of making
predictions and would gain confidence in our ability to tap the psychic
energy when some of those prediction by chance happened to match reality. As
chance brought us more "right" predictions our confidence in our abilities
would grow.
I'm not saying that as a way of saying you're full of hooey. Just saying
this is why it feels right to believe it.
If we were to collect all the "psychic predictions" about bin Laden (for
example) and then review them after he's discovered or killed or captured,
some of them by pure chance will be right. Most will be wrong of course. Are
the right ones psychic or just lucky guessers?
I recall in statistics class the teacher told us of a scam where a "stock
predictor" would write the same letter to a hundred people saying Stock A
will go up and another hundred that Stock A will go down. Depending on
whether Stock A goes up or down, he chooses the hundred he made the right
"prediction" to and to half writes that Stock B will go up and half that
Stock B will go down. If he keeps on doing this with Stocks C, D, E and so
forth, eventually there will be a handful of people who have proof in
writing that the guy is dead on accurate at predicting stocks! ;-) And then
send him lots of money to invest of course!
There was also an experiment with pigeons where the scientists would
randomly deliver food to pigeons who were in separate cages. After some time
passed the scientists checked on the pigeons and they were all doing odd
things -- hopping on one leg, bobbing their heads, flapping their wings and
so on. They were behaviors the pigeons just happened to be doing when food
appeared. Food reinforced the vague idea that the behavior was associated
with food which made the pigeons slightly more likely to do that behavior.
Since they would do the behavior more often, chance would coincide the
delivery of food with the behavior more often. Which increased the frequency
of the behavior until the pigeons were certain the behavior was bringing the
food. Since the food delivery was random, the behavior didn't always bring
food, but it was reinforced often enough that to the pigeons there seemed to
be a connection.
Joyce
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> I said "that John Jr needed to beAnd if there are hundreds of people making predictions then some of them are
> careful flying his airplane especially because of where Mars and Pluto were
> transiting in his chart".... I forgot about it until I turn on the
> television on a Saturday morning which staying at a hotel with hubby only to
> see all this news coverage of his downed airplane.
bound to be right.
How many predictions have you made that didn't pan out?
I think if we all grew up in an atmosphere of believing that there were
psychic energies we could tap into that we would be in the habit of making
predictions and would gain confidence in our ability to tap the psychic
energy when some of those prediction by chance happened to match reality. As
chance brought us more "right" predictions our confidence in our abilities
would grow.
I'm not saying that as a way of saying you're full of hooey. Just saying
this is why it feels right to believe it.
If we were to collect all the "psychic predictions" about bin Laden (for
example) and then review them after he's discovered or killed or captured,
some of them by pure chance will be right. Most will be wrong of course. Are
the right ones psychic or just lucky guessers?
I recall in statistics class the teacher told us of a scam where a "stock
predictor" would write the same letter to a hundred people saying Stock A
will go up and another hundred that Stock A will go down. Depending on
whether Stock A goes up or down, he chooses the hundred he made the right
"prediction" to and to half writes that Stock B will go up and half that
Stock B will go down. If he keeps on doing this with Stocks C, D, E and so
forth, eventually there will be a handful of people who have proof in
writing that the guy is dead on accurate at predicting stocks! ;-) And then
send him lots of money to invest of course!
There was also an experiment with pigeons where the scientists would
randomly deliver food to pigeons who were in separate cages. After some time
passed the scientists checked on the pigeons and they were all doing odd
things -- hopping on one leg, bobbing their heads, flapping their wings and
so on. They were behaviors the pigeons just happened to be doing when food
appeared. Food reinforced the vague idea that the behavior was associated
with food which made the pigeons slightly more likely to do that behavior.
Since they would do the behavior more often, chance would coincide the
delivery of food with the behavior more often. Which increased the frequency
of the behavior until the pigeons were certain the behavior was bringing the
food. Since the food delivery was random, the behavior didn't always bring
food, but it was reinforced often enough that to the pigeons there seemed to
be a connection.
Joyce
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[email protected]
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:32:23 -0500 Fetteroll <fetteroll@...>
writes:
credit! <g>
The only thing my pigeon is certain of is that he is invisible to cats.
Burt from Soap.
Deb L
writes:
> until the pigeons were certain the behavior wasOK. I live with a pigeon, and this dude was giving them WAY too much
> bringing the
> food.
credit! <g>
The only thing my pigeon is certain of is that he is invisible to cats.
Burt from Soap.
Deb L