Susan Bundlie

<<We love to have company, but allergy folks be prepared; we have 3 cats, 2
dogs (all rescuees).>>

With that many animals, do you have a (feline) pee problem?

Susan (who obviously has!)

The Mowery Family

The only potty problem is Faith, she is the oldest of the cats and is
disabled. We think she is at least 12 and is living out her last years with
us. From what the vets have figured, she was either hit by a car or kicked
and her hips were broken, by the time someone left her on the vet office
doorstep, she was about 5 years post injury and everything had fused
together. She walks with a horrible limp, can't groom herself(when she
tries she goes into horrific muscle spasms). We think the reason Faith has
(infrequent)accidents is because once she realizes she has to go, it is too
late. Thankfully she stays in one of 2 places so it isn't hard to discover
problems. Peaches and Tigger(both girls) have never sprayed(that I have
seen - in the almost 2 years we have had them) and they use the box
frequently. We have Bailey the mutt and Amber the epileptic retriever and
they potty outside. Aside from scooping outdoor doggy doo and changing the
litter box twice a week, pet potty is not a problem. Also, the cats and
dogs get along so well. We often find the dogs and Peaches and Tigger all
snuggled up with each other. Faith likes to be left alone, and everyone
respects her decision.

When Joe and I were first married he got me a cat who hated my guts and
would pee on me when I was sleeping, on my clothes if they were on the floor
or wherever I was sitting. Needless to say she found new parents after 3
months.

sistakammi


----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Bundlie" <strandbe@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:00 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Territorial pussycats


> <<We love to have company, but allergy folks be prepared; we have 3 cats,
2
> dogs (all rescuees).>>
>
> With that many animals, do you have a (feline) pee problem?
>
> Susan (who obviously has!)

Susan Bundlie

<<Also, the cats and dogs get along so well. We often find the dogs and
Peaches and Tigger all snuggled up with each other.>>

Our three cats will do that with each other--just a jumble of purr and fur
all squeezed into a basket together in the winter when it¹s cold.

The pee problem is mostly with our youngest (two males are about 16, the
female is 8) who really needs to be Queen of the House and isn¹t allowed to
be. She¹s expressing her obvious displeasure. It¹s gotten better since she¹s
become Queen of the Master Bedroom and has her own litterbox up there.

Tiger is the least dominant cat (what¹s the opposite of Alpha cat? Omega
cat?) and he sprays occasionally just because he¹s frustrated, I think.

We got into the habit of scooping out the litterboxes whenever we walked by
them, so they¹re ridiculously clean (for litter boxes) all the time. It
didn¹t seem to make a big difference, but we¹ve been doing it for so long
now that it would feel weird not to. We also know the usual spray places, so
we check them daily and keep them clean. Sometimes we think about all the
hours we¹d save if we didn¹t have pets, but they delight us so much of the
time that I doubt we¹ll ever be pet-less.

Faith is obviously very lucky to have you. What a life she must have had
before....

<<When Joe and I were first married he got me a cat who hated my guts and
would pee on me when I was sleeping, on my clothes if they were on the floor
or wherever I was sitting.>>

Ack! Do you know if she did that to her new people?

Susan

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My vet told me that most cats that have been fixed will not spray. If they
are peeing somewere it is generally indicative of a Urinary tract infection
or kidney problem. One of our cats got very sick last year from chrystals in
his urine and developed a uretral blockage. I also have noticed a problem
with some cats who refuse to use the litter box if it is more than a day
since cleaning,
Elissa, who will soon be singing
Yippee - Kai - Yay! and plans to toilet train all future felines since she
HATES to clean tHat litter box!!
-----Original Message-----

Sharon Rudd

> <<When Joe and I were first married he got me a cat
> who hated my guts and
> would pee on me when I was sleeping, on my clothes
> if they were on the floor
> or wherever I was sitting.>>

Perhaps the cat did not hate you, but was "marking" you?

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In a message dated 1/9/02 8:10:21 AM, ElissaJC@... writes:

<< My vet told me that most cats that have been fixed will not spray. >>

I think it partly depends who else is around (other male animals?) and how
old they were when they were fixed.

We had one who persisted after fixation. (Or after we broke him. I prefer
to think of it is "surgically discouraged.")

Sandra

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<<I think it partly depends who else is around (other male animals?) and how
old they were when they were fixed.>>

Very true.
I always tell people that our cats USED to be male.
Elissa, who will soon be singing
Yippee - Kai - Yay!

meghan anderson

<<<<My vet told me that most cats that have been fixed
will not spray. If they are peeing somewere it is
generally indicative of a Urinary tract infection or
kidney problem. One of our cats got very sick last
year from chrystals in his urine and developed a
uretral blockage. I also have noticed a problem with
some cats who refuse to use the litter box if it is
more than a day since cleaning,
Elissa, who will soon be singing
Yippee - Kai - Yay! and plans to toilet train all
future felines since
she
HATES to clean tHat litter box!!>>>>

If they learned to spray before they were fixed then
they will continue to do so even after they've had the
op. That's why you're supposed to get males fixed
between 6 and 8 months (before the instinct to spray
kicks in).
When I was a kid, we had a cat that used to pee in the
toilet when it was raining. We never trained him to do
it. He used to watch us and just caught on that if he
went in there, he wouldn't have to go out in the rain
(I guess).
Let's hear it for cat flaps!!!

Meghan

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In a message dated 1/9/02 11:13:56 PM, moonmeghan@... writes:

<< When I was a kid, we had a cat that used to pee in the
toilet when it was raining. >>

I had a friend whose cat started peeing in the toilet one day after watching
her intently. She said it was kinda creepy--she went to the bathroom with
her way-grown cat (no kitten) in there sitting in the corner not kinda
casually looking but REALLY looking, thinking, twitching and staring. After
that the cat always went in the toilet.

Tadaaa!

Sandra

Nanci Kuykendall

>I had a friend whose cat started peeing in the toilet
>one day after watching her intently.
>Sandra

I love cats. I had a friend who's cat learned to ring
the doorbell to get into the house. The cat jumped up
and hit the bell with it's paw over and over until
someone let it in. Obviously must have picked it up
from watching people ring the bell and get let into
the house. :-)

Nanci K.



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<<She said it was kinda creepy--she went to the bathroom with
her way-grown cat (no kitten) in there sitting in the corner not kinda
casually looking but REALLY looking, thinking, twitching and staring. After
that the cat always went in the toilet.>>

Often when we¹re in the bathroom one of the cats will come in and use the
litter box. I¹d be thrilled to find one on the toilet (a cat, not a litter
box), but I doubt it will happen. I wonder about a litter box with a hole
cut in the bottom of it strapped to the toilet seat....

Susan

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Here is a way to toilet train your cat:
http://www.karawynn.net/mishacat/toilet.shtml
or
http://www.susandennis.com/catsquickstart.htm
and the opposing view:
http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/toilet.html
Elissa, who will soon be singing
Yippee - Kai - Yay!
-----Original Message-----
From: Susan Bundlie <strandbe@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:20 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Territorial pussycats


<<She said it was kinda creepy--she went to the bathroom with
her way-grown cat (no kitten) in there sitting in the corner not kinda
casually looking but REALLY looking, thinking, twitching and staring. After
that the cat always went in the toilet.>>

Often when we¹re in the bathroom one of the cats will come in and use the
litter box. I¹d be thrilled to find one on the toilet (a cat, not a litter
box), but I doubt it will happen. I wonder about a litter box with a hole
cut in the bottom of it strapped to the toilet seat....

Susan



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