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My kids have always had freedom of choice with movies. They have seen all
kinds of stuff, and still as teens will choose Alladin or Follow That Bird as
freely as Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back or Fight Club. Holly's favorite
movie is still Stand By Me, but she'll watch Between the Lions and Dragontales
and then listen to Stephen Lynch.

The other night Kirby, Marty and I went to the dollar theater to see
Alexander. A family in front of us was hesitant about some ticket, and I think it
was Alexander. They had a three year old girl with them but it was already
7:45. I think they had a time consideration. So we waited, thinking they
would go to A Shark Tale or something. They asked about The Grudge, then.

Marty and I turned and looked at each other with such big eyes we didn't
really hear what they bought after all, but they did to in, with this little
girl, whom I hope was going to have a nice nap in dad's lap in a dark place.

Though I didn't mind my kids watching R rated stuff, I would never ever have
taken them to a theater where they couldn't escape it. Watching a few
minutes of something in one's own home is NOT like stuck in the dark with speakers
all around you and overwhelming giant images in the company of frightened
adults.

And so, kind of, with Halo II. They're just at home, not on some foreign
battle field. No one is shooting at them. Any second that they'd rather be
doing something else, they can switch the whole shebang off and play it later
or never again.

Sandra


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julie w

SandraDodd@... wrote:

<<<<They asked about The Grudge, then.
Marty and I turned and looked at each other with such big eyes ...>>>>

I love scary movies, but hate what they do to me, I could not even watch
commercials ("OMG turn the tv over" I would scream...) for that without
getting the creeps.
Freaky cat boy
freaking thing climbing down the stairs



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Gold Standard

>>A family in front of us was hesitant about some ticket, and I think it
>>was Alexander. They had a three year old girl with them but it was
already
>>7:45. I think they had a time consideration. So we waited, thinking
they
>>would go to A Shark Tale or something. They asked about The Grudge,
then.

>>Marty and I turned and looked at each other with such big eyes we didn't
>>really hear what they bought after all,<<

This reminds me of when my dh and I went to see Halloween III, since the
first Halloween is still the scariest movie in my mind and memory, and when
the third one came out in my mid 30's with Jamie Lee to boot, I was so
excited to see it. A family sat in front of us in the theatre, a young man
and woman and a 2 1/2, maybe 3 yo boy. It completely spoiled the movie for
us because the child was so incredibly freaked out and the parents laughed.
I told them their child was really struggling, and I thought he needed to
get some relief and would they please take him out. They told me to mind my
own business. What to do in a situation like that? I asked the management
about it and they said parents can do whatever they want, even if the child
is that young and in distress. It was SO PAINFUL!

Poor guy.
Jacki

Kris

It's rare that a movie truly gets to me, I haven't seen The Grudge but saw
Ju-On (the Japanese version) and wasn't scared at all. I'm hoping TG will
give me a little scare. However, Jonathan had the same reaction to the
commercials. He hid his face and covered his ears. I can't imagine being
so careless about a young child that I would make them sit through a movie
like that.

Kris

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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] R rated movies and Halo II


>
>
>
> SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
> <<<<They asked about The Grudge, then.
> Marty and I turned and looked at each other with such big eyes ...>>>>
>
> I love scary movies, but hate what they do to me, I could not even watch
> commercials ("OMG turn the tv over" I would scream...) for that without
> getting the creeps.
> Freaky cat boy
> freaking thing climbing down the stairs



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Gold Standard

I only mildly enjoyed the Grudge. Didn't really gel together for me. My 16
yo son Andrew who is sitting here with me says, "The Japanese make
smart-aleck films that aren't supposed to be that scary, but they're
actually cool and original and the Japanese thoughts are just amazing.
However, when we Americans like a film by the Japanese we make an American
version such as "The Ring" ("Ringu") and now this film. The Ring might be
one of the worst films ever made. Sure it's got some jumpy parts in there,
but Ringu makes a hell of a lot more sense than any remakes of these good
ideas."

My filmmaker in the making. He recommends "Silence of the Lambs" for true
fear-provoking, as well as "The Shining". We are really interested in other
people's choices for very scary movies. What are yours?
Jacki
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Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] R rated movies and Halo II


It's rare that a movie truly gets to me, I haven't seen The Grudge but saw
Ju-On (the Japanese version) and wasn't scared at all. I'm hoping TG will
give me a little scare. However, Jonathan had the same reaction to the
commercials. He hid his face and covered his ears. I can't imagine being
so careless about a young child that I would make them sit through a movie
like that.

Kris

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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] R rated movies and Halo II


>
>
>
> SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
> <<<<They asked about The Grudge, then.
> Marty and I turned and looked at each other with such big eyes ...>>>>
>
> I love scary movies, but hate what they do to me, I could not even watch
> commercials ("OMG turn the tv over" I would scream...) for that without
> getting the creeps.
> Freaky cat boy
> freaking thing climbing down the stairs



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Eric Donato

On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Gold Standard wrote:

> We are really interested in other
> people's choices for very scary movies. What are yours?
> Jacki

too scared, I just cannot watch once the music gets scary... the
suspense itself is a killer...

Jules.

Gold Standard

On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:43 PM, Gold Standard wrote:

> We are really interested in other
> people's choices for very scary movies. What are yours?
> Jacki

>>too scared, I just cannot watch once the music gets scary... the
>>suspense itself is a killer...

Andrew says, "When the music starts, that's usually the director's way to
trick you to get scared and get your belly to feel all nauseous. The part
that is REALLY scary just happens out of the blue. The music is all quiet
and then BAM a scary face appears in some window. They usually use the
uplifting, frightening orchestra music for when someone is going down a dark
hall, or a dark room. They use it because the person has not yet gone in
this room, and we don't know who or what is lurking about, but nothing
usually happens. My theory is usually 100% right. I have a theory that about
55% of the people get scared at the part of the movie that is not only a
scary image but because of the crash of a frightening orchestra sound."

So are ya scared now? At least now you know you don't have to be afraid of
the scary music!

Thanks,
Jacki





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Eric Donato

Yeah, I AM really scared now!!! his theory sounds right, and as I read
it through, I find myself feeling cold and nervously giggling... I'm a
movie chicken alright, a little less afraid of the music, way terrified
of the calm quiet scenes... LOL...

Jules.

On Jan 21, 2005, at 11:04 PM, Gold Standard wrote:

> trick you to get scared and get your belly to feel all nauseous. The
> part
> that is REALLY scary just happens out of the blue. The music is all
> quiet
> and then BAM a scary face appears in some window. They usually use the
> uplifting, frightening orchestra music for when someone is going down
> a dark
> hall, or a dark room. They use it because the person has not yet gone
> in
> this room, and we don't know who or what is lurking about, but nothing
> usually happens. My theory is usually 100% right. I have a theory
> that about
> 55% of the people get scared at the part of the movie that is not
> only a
> scary image but because of the crash of a frightening orchestra
> sound."
>
> So are ya scared now? At least now you know you don't have to be
> afraid of
> the scary music!

Kris

One that really gave me the creeps was another Japanese movie titled "The
Audition". "The Eye" (Chinese, Mandarin) gave me a few chills. I enjoyed
"The Others", "Signs" and "The Sixth Sense". We just saw "The Village" and
it wasn't the best of Shyamalan's movies but enjoyable. "The Forgotten" is
our most recent views, worth watching but disappointing.

I still think the older horror movies are some of the most scary, so much
was left to our imaginations. I remember watching a live performance of
"Dracula" at a small theatre in the round. There were no props, the stage
was painted black and bare except for a small black box and a black ladder.
The actors were in costume but the rest was left up to the audience's
ability to bring up images from their own imagination and memory. I got so
scared that it shocked me, my own brain was filled with much scarier stuff
than any movie I've ever seen.

Older films "Rear Window", "Black Sabbath" (cheesy but still scary),
"Psycho" (of course) and "Wait Until Dark".

As for "The Shining", I read the book long before the movie came out, the
book was WAY scarier.

Kris

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From: "Gold Standard" <jacki@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:43 PM
Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] R rated movies and Halo II


>
> I only mildly enjoyed the Grudge. Didn't really gel together for me. My 16
> yo son Andrew who is sitting here with me says, "The Japanese make
> smart-aleck films that aren't supposed to be that scary, but they're
> actually cool and original and the Japanese thoughts are just amazing.
> However, when we Americans like a film by the Japanese we make an American
> version such as "The Ring" ("Ringu") and now this film. The Ring might be
> one of the worst films ever made. Sure it's got some jumpy parts in there,
> but Ringu makes a hell of a lot more sense than any remakes of these good
> ideas."
>
> My filmmaker in the making. He recommends "Silence of the Lambs" for true
> fear-provoking, as well as "The Shining". We are really interested in
> other
> people's choices for very scary movies. What are yours?
> Jacki



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In a message dated 1/22/2005 1:43:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Gold Standard" <jacki@...> writes:

We are really interested in other
>people's choices for very scary movies. What are yours?<<<

Scary movies, scary books---it doesn't matter. I have no problem with the supernatural scary. Thinking, jealous cars...Jason...Freddy Krueger...aliens...thinking hotels.... That's just fun. Silly. ---but not scary.

But psychotics?????

Get me out of there!

I can't handle _Silence of the Lambs_ or _Misery_ or Gerald's Game_---or anything that could actually happen because someone is crazed or psychotic or just plain MEAN. OH! That one with the guy and an apartment and a nail gun???? YUCK!

My father, a psychiatrist, did a bit of forensic psychiatry for a while. Got to meet some *real* winners! Pee Wee Gaskins (eventually zapped in the electric chair) wrote a book. I wouldn't advise that you read *that* one unless you want to be convinced to never leave your LOCKED house without an armed guard (and never let your kids out of your sight!)---and be convinced that the death penalty is a definite necessity!

Supernatural scary? Fun. REAL scary? Forget it!

~Kelly

julie w

Gold Standard wrote:

>My filmmaker in the making. He recommends "Silence of the Lambs" for true
>fear-provoking, as well as "The Shining". We are really interested in other
>people's choices for very scary movies. What are yours?
>Jacki
>
>
Oh "The Haunting" would be it.
When that door starts to breath and the loud bang, bang,
bang.....shivers. You never really see anything, its all in your mind,
so very, very good. And not the crappy one with Liam Neeson (not that I
don't like him...its just a horrible movie) but the one with Julie
Harris and Russ Tamblin from '63.
Also "Burnt Offerings" with Karen Black.
I thought the 1st Salem's Lot (TV) was way good for a Steven King movie
and of course The Shining...redrumredrum
Julie W in AR



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Kris

Yes! Definitely the Julie Harris version! I was trying to think of the
actress in this one, kept thinking it was Deborah Kerr. Thanks for helping
get my brain out of *that* loop!

Kris

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From: "julie w" <jjjwoolfolk@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] R rated movies and Halo II


>
>
>
> Gold Standard wrote:
>
>>My filmmaker in the making. He recommends "Silence of the Lambs" for true
>>fear-provoking, as well as "The Shining". We are really interested in
>>other
>>people's choices for very scary movies. What are yours?
>>Jacki
>>
>>
> Oh "The Haunting" would be it.
> When that door starts to breath and the loud bang, bang,
> bang.....shivers. You never really see anything, its all in your mind,
> so very, very good. And not the crappy one with Liam Neeson (not that I
> don't like him...its just a horrible movie) but the one with Julie
> Harris and Russ Tamblin from '63.
> Also "Burnt Offerings" with Karen Black.
> I thought the 1st Salem's Lot (TV) was way good for a Steven King movie
> and of course The Shining...redrumredrum
> Julie W in AR



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