[email protected]

So...
My first reaction to the e-mail below is to write and say "That goes against
the whole idea, and that information is available free ANYday." But are
there some people who would much rather take a single organized course on
unschooling (like they would like to buy one book and read it and have done) instead
of poke around and get their information freeform? If so, is it good for me to
list this link? I don't want to be antagonistic about it, and I think it's
cool that they're offering an unschooling session.

Some years back HEM was thinking of doing such online classes and I was asked
if I would teach online classes. I said it seemed counter to the whole
principle, but if they really wanted to I would. They abandoned plan. But maybe
that wasn't the best thing.


What do you all think?

Sandra

------------------


Hello Sandra,

My name is Irene Taylor and I am the dean of the School of Education and
the Kids' School at Suite University, a part of suite101.com

I am writing to let you know about several of our courses in the hope that
you might be able to include them on your Radical Unschooling site. I
learned of your site through a link at one of our courses Homeschooling the
Unschooling Way by Sara McGrath. Here is a link to that course:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19413/overview/40168

Sara has listed your site as a resource in several parts of her course, so
I was hoping that you might be willing to give us a reciprocal link or
announce some of our other courses.

Here are our course offerings in the homeschool area:

Homeschooling the Unschooling Way:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19413/overview/40168

Parents who plan to homeschool their young children, and parents interested
in supporting child-led learning outside of school hours, will learn about
the unschooling philosophy of home education including all the details and
variations of how this style of homeschooling fits into daily living and
how state regulations can be followed and satisfied.

This course begins on Jan. 24, or anytime as a Quick Course.

How to Start Homeschooling:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/16658/overview/40168

Thinking about homeschooling your children? Perhaps you've begun
homeschooling but are looking for more resources. How to Start
Homeschooling is a soup to nuts guide covering all of the basics: from
getting started to high school and beyond.

You will learn the laws for your state and how to meet the state curriculum
guidelines. You will learn how to deal with criticism, and how to find the
method of homeschooling that is right for you and your family.

This course starts on Feb. 13, or anytime as a Quick Course

Homeschooling Your Special Needs Child:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17312/overview/40168

From the first stages of the decision-making process to the first exciting
and scary days as a homeschooling parent, this course helps parents prepare
to teach their own child at home and to cope with the unique challenges
faced by any parent teaching a special child.

This course starts on Feb. 13, or anytime as a Quick Course.

We also have three new courses that were written just for children. These
could be used as part of a homeschool program, or to supplement
instruction. They are all available at any time as Quick Courses. This is a
growing school and we are also always looking for new course developers.

What is it and How to Cope:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19244/overview/40168

In this course you will learn all about bullying - what it is, different
types of bullying, who bullies, why a bully bullies, and how best to cope
with bullying. It will help you learn to cope with the challenge of being
bullied and teach you how to react to bullying. This course is recommended
for children between the ages of 8 & 12. Parental supervision is advised,
but not necessary.

Christianity for Kids:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19359/overview/40168

Have you ever wondered what being a Christian means and how to become a
Christian? This course is designed to teach you the wonders of God's love
and take the mystery out of being a Christian. You will learn what the
Bible is and why it was written. In addition, you will learn about prayer.
And, you will see the exciting events of Jesus' life, and the huge
sacrifice he made for us. This course is designed for children ages 6-8,
with parental involvement.

Kitchen Safety for Kids:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19315/overview/40168

There are many hazards in the kitchen. If you are between the ages of 8 &
12, this course will educate you on basic kitchen safety, microwave safety,
fire extinguishers and how to use them, oven safety, appliance safety,
stovetop safety, food safety, using knives etc. This course should be taken
with adult supervision because kids will be working with stoves, microwaves
and knives.

This course is recommended for kids between the ages of 8 & 12, who enjoy
working in the kitchen. Parental supervision is advised.

I would very much appreciate any links to any of these courses at your
site, or permission to post an announcement of these courses on the
appropriate message boards that you have, if a link is not possible. We
feel that these courses all offer a great deal to the homeschooler, and
we'd like to spread the word about them if possible.

If you have any questions, please contact me. Thanks so much for your
consideration.

Irene Taylor
Dean of Education
Dean of the Kids' School

Teaching Writing to Children:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17315/overview/40168

Teaching Writing to Children Part Two:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17372/overview/40168

Helping with Homework:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17914/overview/40168
_________________________________________

http://www.suite101.com


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Paula Sjogerman

on 1/19/05 10:21 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> But are
> there some people who would much rather take a single organized course on
> unschooling (like they would like to buy one book and read it and have done)
> instead
> of poke around and get their information freeform?


There's no reason to think that some folks won't take this course AND poke
around both.

What's the downside of linking?

Paula

Gold Standard

Thanks for putting this out for us to look at Sandra. I think that before
you put a link on your site, you should know how the course was going to
taught. By putting the link up, it is like you are endorsing it, and
possibly it won't be a good representation of unschooling. If you think it
will be a good representation for unschooling, then it might be another good
way to help parents come to unschool their children.

This description from the link: "will learn about the unschooling philosophy
of home education including all the details and variations of how this style
of homeschooling fits into daily living and how state regulations can be
followed and satisfied." sounds pretty darn schooly, and I'm not sure how
one would neatly display unschooling fitting into daily living, since each
day is different (I hope!) and each home is different. But maybe they have
ideas about this that would work.

So there's my two cents, for what they're worth!

Jacki



-----Original Message-----
From: SandraDodd@... [mailto:SandraDodd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] are courses good for getting to not needing
courses?



So...
My first reaction to the e-mail below is to write and say "That goes against
the whole idea, and that information is available free ANYday." But are
there some people who would much rather take a single organized course on
unschooling (like they would like to buy one book and read it and have done)
instead
of poke around and get their information freeform? If so, is it good for me
to
list this link? I don't want to be antagonistic about it, and I think it's
cool that they're offering an unschooling session.

Some years back HEM was thinking of doing such online classes and I was
asked
if I would teach online classes. I said it seemed counter to the whole
principle, but if they really wanted to I would. They abandoned plan. But
maybe
that wasn't the best thing.


What do you all think?

Sandra

------------------


Hello Sandra,

My name is Irene Taylor and I am the dean of the School of Education and
the Kids' School at Suite University, a part of suite101.com

I am writing to let you know about several of our courses in the hope that
you might be able to include them on your Radical Unschooling site. I
learned of your site through a link at one of our courses Homeschooling the
Unschooling Way by Sara McGrath. Here is a link to that course:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19413/overview/40168

Sara has listed your site as a resource in several parts of her course, so
I was hoping that you might be willing to give us a reciprocal link or
announce some of our other courses.

Here are our course offerings in the homeschool area:

Homeschooling the Unschooling Way:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19413/overview/40168

Parents who plan to homeschool their young children, and parents interested
in supporting child-led learning outside of school hours, will learn about
the unschooling philosophy of home education including all the details and
variations of how this style of homeschooling fits into daily living and
how state regulations can be followed and satisfied.

This course begins on Jan. 24, or anytime as a Quick Course.

How to Start Homeschooling:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/16658/overview/40168

Thinking about homeschooling your children? Perhaps you've begun
homeschooling but are looking for more resources. How to Start
Homeschooling is a soup to nuts guide covering all of the basics: from
getting started to high school and beyond.

You will learn the laws for your state and how to meet the state curriculum
guidelines. You will learn how to deal with criticism, and how to find the
method of homeschooling that is right for you and your family.

This course starts on Feb. 13, or anytime as a Quick Course

Homeschooling Your Special Needs Child:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17312/overview/40168

>From the first stages of the decision-making process to the first exciting
and scary days as a homeschooling parent, this course helps parents prepare
to teach their own child at home and to cope with the unique challenges
faced by any parent teaching a special child.

This course starts on Feb. 13, or anytime as a Quick Course.

We also have three new courses that were written just for children. These
could be used as part of a homeschool program, or to supplement
instruction. They are all available at any time as Quick Courses. This is a
growing school and we are also always looking for new course developers.

What is it and How to Cope:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19244/overview/40168

In this course you will learn all about bullying - what it is, different
types of bullying, who bullies, why a bully bullies, and how best to cope
with bullying. It will help you learn to cope with the challenge of being
bullied and teach you how to react to bullying. This course is recommended
for children between the ages of 8 & 12. Parental supervision is advised,
but not necessary.

Christianity for Kids:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19359/overview/40168

Have you ever wondered what being a Christian means and how to become a
Christian? This course is designed to teach you the wonders of God's love
and take the mystery out of being a Christian. You will learn what the
Bible is and why it was written. In addition, you will learn about prayer.
And, you will see the exciting events of Jesus' life, and the huge
sacrifice he made for us. This course is designed for children ages 6-8,
with parental involvement.

Kitchen Safety for Kids:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19315/overview/40168

There are many hazards in the kitchen. If you are between the ages of 8 &
12, this course will educate you on basic kitchen safety, microwave safety,
fire extinguishers and how to use them, oven safety, appliance safety,
stovetop safety, food safety, using knives etc. This course should be taken
with adult supervision because kids will be working with stoves, microwaves
and knives.

This course is recommended for kids between the ages of 8 & 12, who enjoy
working in the kitchen. Parental supervision is advised.

I would very much appreciate any links to any of these courses at your
site, or permission to post an announcement of these courses on the
appropriate message boards that you have, if a link is not possible. We
feel that these courses all offer a great deal to the homeschooler, and
we'd like to spread the word about them if possible.

If you have any questions, please contact me. Thanks so much for your
consideration.

Irene Taylor
Dean of Education
Dean of the Kids' School

Teaching Writing to Children:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17315/overview/40168

Teaching Writing to Children Part Two:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17372/overview/40168

Helping with Homework:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17914/overview/40168
_________________________________________

http://www.suite101.com


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April M

Personally, I can't see anyone I know spending that kind of money of
information that's freely available with a little searching on-line or at
the library. I'd want to know the details of the course....I wasn't overly
impressed with the syllabus.

~April
Mom to Kate-18, Lisa-15, Karl-13, & Ben-9.
*REACH Homeschool Group, an inclusive group meeting throughout Oakland
County.. http://www.homeschoolingonashoestring.com/REACH_home.html
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-----Original Message-----
From: SandraDodd@... [mailto:SandraDodd@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] are courses good for getting to not needing
courses?


So...
My first reaction to the e-mail below is to write and say "That goes
against
the whole idea, and that information is available free ANYday." But are
there some people who would much rather take a single organized course on
unschooling (like they would like to buy one book and read it and have
done) instead
of poke around and get their information freeform? If so, is it good for
me to
list this link? I don't want to be antagonistic about it, and I think
it's
cool that they're offering an unschooling session.

Some years back HEM was thinking of doing such online classes and I was
asked
if I would teach online classes. I said it seemed counter to the whole
principle, but if they really wanted to I would. They abandoned plan. But
maybe
that wasn't the best thing.


What do you all think?

Sandra

------------------


Hello Sandra,

My name is Irene Taylor and I am the dean of the School of Education and
the Kids' School at Suite University, a part of suite101.com

I am writing to let you know about several of our courses in the hope that
you might be able to include them on your Radical Unschooling site. I
learned of your site through a link at one of our courses Homeschooling
the
Unschooling Way by Sara McGrath. Here is a link to that course:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19413/overview/40168

Sara has listed your site as a resource in several parts of her course, so
I was hoping that you might be willing to give us a reciprocal link or
announce some of our other courses.

Here are our course offerings in the homeschool area:

Homeschooling the Unschooling Way:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19413/overview/40168

Parents who plan to homeschool their young children, and parents
interested
in supporting child-led learning outside of school hours, will learn about
the unschooling philosophy of home education including all the details and
variations of how this style of homeschooling fits into daily living and
how state regulations can be followed and satisfied.

This course begins on Jan. 24, or anytime as a Quick Course.

How to Start Homeschooling:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/16658/overview/40168

Thinking about homeschooling your children? Perhaps you've begun
homeschooling but are looking for more resources. How to Start
Homeschooling is a soup to nuts guide covering all of the basics: from
getting started to high school and beyond.

You will learn the laws for your state and how to meet the state
curriculum
guidelines. You will learn how to deal with criticism, and how to find the
method of homeschooling that is right for you and your family.

This course starts on Feb. 13, or anytime as a Quick Course

Homeschooling Your Special Needs Child:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17312/overview/40168

From the first stages of the decision-making process to the first exciting
and scary days as a homeschooling parent, this course helps parents
prepare
to teach their own child at home and to cope with the unique challenges
faced by any parent teaching a special child.

This course starts on Feb. 13, or anytime as a Quick Course.

We also have three new courses that were written just for children. These
could be used as part of a homeschool program, or to supplement
instruction. They are all available at any time as Quick Courses. This is
a
growing school and we are also always looking for new course developers.

What is it and How to Cope:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19244/overview/40168

In this course you will learn all about bullying - what it is, different
types of bullying, who bullies, why a bully bullies, and how best to cope
with bullying. It will help you learn to cope with the challenge of being
bullied and teach you how to react to bullying. This course is recommended
for children between the ages of 8 & 12. Parental supervision is advised,
but not necessary.

Christianity for Kids:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19359/overview/40168

Have you ever wondered what being a Christian means and how to become a
Christian? This course is designed to teach you the wonders of God's love
and take the mystery out of being a Christian. You will learn what the
Bible is and why it was written. In addition, you will learn about prayer.
And, you will see the exciting events of Jesus' life, and the huge
sacrifice he made for us. This course is designed for children ages 6-8,
with parental involvement.

Kitchen Safety for Kids:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/19315/overview/40168

There are many hazards in the kitchen. If you are between the ages of 8 &
12, this course will educate you on basic kitchen safety, microwave
safety,
fire extinguishers and how to use them, oven safety, appliance safety,
stovetop safety, food safety, using knives etc. This course should be
taken
with adult supervision because kids will be working with stoves,
microwaves
and knives.

This course is recommended for kids between the ages of 8 & 12, who enjoy
working in the kitchen. Parental supervision is advised.

I would very much appreciate any links to any of these courses at your
site, or permission to post an announcement of these courses on the
appropriate message boards that you have, if a link is not possible. We
feel that these courses all offer a great deal to the homeschooler, and
we'd like to spread the word about them if possible.

If you have any questions, please contact me. Thanks so much for your
consideration.

Irene Taylor
Dean of Education
Dean of the Kids' School

Teaching Writing to Children:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17315/overview/40168

Teaching Writing to Children Part Two:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17372/overview/40168

Helping with Homework:
http://www.suite101.com/course.cfm/17914/overview/40168
_________________________________________

http://www.suite101.com


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Nichole Fausey-Khosraviani

----- Original Message -----
From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] are courses good for getting to not needing courses?


So...
My first reaction to the e-mail below is to write and say "That goes against
the whole idea, and that information is available free ANYday." But are
there some people who would much rather take a single organized course on
unschooling (like they would like to buy one book and read it and have done) instead
of poke around and get their information freeform? If so, is it good for me to
list this link?
********************************

I personally wouldn't put it on the texasunschoolers.com site unless I went through the course myself. I'm thinking you'd probably want to do the same thing with your site, especially since so many people link to it and refer to it. I'm sure that you have read all the other things you link to on your site. I also think that you are right, unschooling information is free and easy to find on the internet. Yes, sometimes I wish your site were organized in a book that I could buy, but that's because I'd like to get comfy on the couch with a book, instead of reading on the computer all the time. It's also easier to lend a book than to say, hey, go check out this site.

The course might be fine, but unless you know for sure, I'd recommend not recommending it. When I see something at SandraDodd.com, I'm pretty sure that you and other long-time unschoolers recognize it as being valid and worthy or reading/implementing.

Nichole

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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/19/2005 9:55:43 AM Mountain Standard Time,
sjogy@... writes:
What's the downside of linking?
=======

That people might pay money for something they could have gotten free, I
guess.
And that I would be endorsing a whole "school" or set of clases, and
endorsing classes of any sort seems to go against helping people really believe that
classes are unnecessary.

It's the hoop snake problem. If a snake bites its own tail...

If people who haven't really gotten to unschooling take classes, they might
be more likely to press their kids to take classes, or wish for that, or worry
about that.

It seems like a step back or sideways. But is a workshop online all that
different from spending a long week here or at unschooling.com asking all the
same questions? Is it much different from buying The Unschooling Handbook?

I don't know.

Sandra


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Sylvia Toyama

That people might pay money for something they could have gotten free, I guess.

*****

The world is already full of folks willing to pay money for stuff they could have gotten for free. I doubt you could significantly increase that number. <g>

Sylvia

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Nichole Fausey-Khosraviani

----- Original Message -----
From: SandraDodd@...

And that I would be endorsing a whole "school"


******************************

Ohh, yeah, that's kind of creepy. Endorsing a whole school. I think no. Not good, until you research the school and the courses, and nah. If someone were doing a workshop on their own site, but a bunch of other schooly things were not going on elsewhere on that site, it might be cool. But that's not the sitch here.

It could start a bunch of other online schools creating the same courses and wanting your endorsements.

Nichole

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Nichole Fausey-Khosraviani

----- Original Message -----
From: Sylvia Toyama


The world is already full of folks willing to pay money for stuff they could have gotten for free. I doubt you could significantly increase that number. <g>

Sylvia
**************************************

I disagree. I think Sandra is so well-known in unschooling that she could greatly increase that number. So many people recommend Sandra's site and she is seen as the radical unschooling guru. If I send people to Sandra's site, which I do link to on my TexasUnschoolers site, then I am also sending people to the links she recommends, as do all the other people who link to her.

If I were new to unschooling and found a link for a school on Sandra's site, I'd be likely to take the course. Every course there furthers the school itself, and I don't know what else is going on there, but I'd assume that Sandra does and agrees with it.

Nichole

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Paula Sjogerman

Oops, I have too many emails and I'm reading too fast. I thought she wanted
to put Sandra's site on hers, not the other way around. I really don't see
any benefit in Sandra listing her course.

Sorry,
Paula

Deb Lewis

I don't know who Sara McGrath is. I googled her and found the links to
the courses. I found a "diaper free" article but I didn't find any
unschooling bits.

I think if people are looking for an unschooling course they can find it
on their own. I Googled "unschooling course" and their links came right
up.

Linking to it is going to look like an endorsement unless you offer a
disclaimer. If you feel you need a disclaimer linking to it might not be
the best choice.

What's your criteria for linking to other sites?

It would be expensive to take all the courses in order to find out if
they're something you'd feel ok about linking to.

If you linked to their course and they've crappy information it could
tarnish your reputation or call into question the integrity of the rest
of your site. Guilty by association. (in the minds of some, if they
matter.)

Deb

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/19/2005 10:59:07 AM Mountain Standard Time,
sjogy@... writes:
Oops, I have too many emails and I'm reading too fast. I thought she wanted
to put Sandra's site on hers, not the other way around. I really don't see
any benefit in Sandra listing her course.
----------------

I am on their site, I guess. There's a kind of "buy now" option (as it were)
on the class, where you can pay to read through the text (I think, if I
understood it).

But that's not really a reciprocation situation. They're making money, I'm
guessing. I didn't go check.

Sandra


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Deb Lewis

***They're making money, I'm guessing. I didn't go check.***


Yeah, they're making money:

Interactive Course
Jan 24 - Feb 25 US$29.95
Feb 28 - Apr 1 US$29.95
Apr 4 - May 6 US$29.95
Quick Course
US$24.95


Deb






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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/19/2005 11:13:26 AM Mountain Standard Time,
ddzimlew@... writes:
Linking to it is going to look like an endorsement unless you offer a
disclaimer. If you feel you need a disclaimer linking to it might not be
the best choice.
---------

Good point.

-=-What's your criteria for linking to other sites? -=-

Mostly, that it's about unschooling and it's useful and happy.

Some of the links on one page are not unschooling but I tried to say so when
I knew. That's the specialty and international page.

http://sandradodd.com/unschoolingotherwise

Sandra


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:25:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ms_fausey@... writes:

Yes, sometimes I wish your site were organized in a book that I could buy,
but that's because I'd like to get comfy on the couch with a book, instead of
reading on the computer all the time. It's also easier to lend a book than
to say, hey, go check out this site.<<<<

Not for my lack of trying! <g>

~Kelly, Sandra's personal butt-kicker

WRITE THE BOOK!







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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/19/2005 1:28:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ddzimlew@... writes:

Yeah, they're making money:

Interactive Course
Jan 24 - Feb 25 US$29.95
Feb 28 - Apr 1 US$29.95
Apr 4 - May 6 US$29.95
Quick Course
US$24.95




<<<<

Maybe tell them to let you take the course for free, THEN you'd decide.

~Kelly


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Danielle Conger

FWIW, it sounds an awful lot like a nose sticking where it doesn't
belong, imo.

There's a big difference between being a big name in the Unschooling
world because you've been there, done that, have lots of info up, give
conference talks, etc. and being an "expert" in the academic sense.
You've purposely *not* bought into the expertise that the academy sells.

I think that setting up a course like Unschooling 101, however many
people it may make Unschooling easier for, goes directly against the
idea that information is available for all who want it without depending
upon an expert to mediate that information. Plus, I'm inclined to think
that anyone who's unwilling to search out information on their own and
views a course on Unschooling as the only, the best or even the easiest
way to get information has a *long* way to go before getting to
Unschooling and setting up such a course only fuels those misperceptions
and prolongs their journey.

I really do think there's a significant difference between signing up
for courses that some expert teaches and that fall under the umbella of
a traditional school and attending an Unschooling conference or reading
on Unschooling.com. If they're linking you--cool. But, I can see
absolutely no ethical reason why you should link them in return.

I'd go with your first reaction: " My first reaction to the e-mail below
is to write and say "That goes against
the whole idea, and that information is available free ANYday.""

But, that's just my $.02, obviously.

--Danielle

http://www.danielleconger.com/Homeschool/Welcomehome.html


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Sylvia Toyama

If I were new to unschooling and found a link for a school on Sandra's site, I'd be likely to take the course. Every course there furthers the school itself, and I don't know what else is going on there, but I'd assume that Sandra does and agrees with it.

Nichole


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I can see your point, but I'm guessing that people new to unschooling, and inclined to do a course, likely would find it elsewhere and spend the money whatever Sandra had to say about it. But, on thinking about it, I agree that seeing such links at Sandradodd.com would be wrong.

Sylvia


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Deb Lewis

***Not for my lack of trying! <g>

WRITE THE BOOK!***


You know, Viggo Mortensen owns a publishing company.
http://www.percevalpress.com/home.html

If she won't do it for us maybe she'd do it for lunch with her publisher.
<BEG>

Deb

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:46:29 PM Mountain Standard Time,
danielle.conger@... writes:
I'd go with your first reaction: " My first reaction to the e-mail below
is to write and say "That goes against
the whole idea, and that information is available free ANYday.""
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Thanks.

That's what I'll do then. Thanks, all, for the brainstorming.


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[email protected]

I'm relatively new to unschooling (although when I reflect on our family's
progression, I can see the genesis of unschooling in our family pretty early),
but I found the following interesting. (And why did I feel the need to doubly-
qualify myself at this email's beginning? Hmmm.) This description was posted
on the suite101's course description site:
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Who should take this course?
Parents and other caregivers interested in supporting child-led learning will
benefit from this course on unschooling whether they plan to homeschool or
support natural learning outside of school.
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Note the last few words, "support natural learning _outside of school_"--isn't
that antithetical to unschooling? This suggests that unschooling and (public/
traditional/bricks 'n mortar/etc) schooling are complementary. The words
also implicitly state that traditional school is the normalized, naturalized state
of being while unschooling is, by its suggested opposite to traditional school,
inferior and therefore the one expected to be shaped so that it still "works
with" traditional school.

Food for thought.

Regards,
Lisette

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From: "Gold Standard" <jacki@...>
Date: 2005/01/19 Wed AM 11:50:20 EST
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [AlwaysLearning] are courses good for getting to not needing
courses?

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"It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." ~Albert Einstein


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