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Half-price day at Savers, Holly wanted to go.
The parking lot was full. We were in line to check out.

The mom in front of me said to one of her kids, "Do you want a spanking?"
I didn't look at the girl to see her response. I was looking at what I was
looking at, and I would have had to turn 90 degrees. I didn't hear a response,
but the mom said, "Do you want me to spank you in public?"

I looked and the girl she was speaking to was at least 13, maybe 14.
She has a younger sister with her and a third, younger yet (9?) came up later.

The mom had been using a normal speaking voice, not mean, not loud, not
sneaky-quiet. And I was standing closer to her than her girls were, even, and I
said in the same normal-conversation voice, clearly to her, though I hadn't
gotten her attention first: "If a man threatened to hit his wife, people would
call the police."

It was loud ough for her daughters and for Holly to hear. Maybe for the
checker, too.

Sh
Ze paused and turned toward me toward the checker (not all the way around
toward the kids) and said, "It's different with kids, I think."

I said, "No it's not."

Neither of us had been sharp or mean. We could've been talking about a scarf
or the weather. She said, "Yes, it is," but she didn't say it as loudly or
with conviction.

Then her youngest daughter came up and said, "I don't want one of those!"
(She was buying six plastic skeleton goblets, and the middle girl had seemed
really happy about it earlier.) The mom said "Tough."

I think Holly was more offended by that than the spanking threat.

I can't imagine a mother spanking a teenaged girl in a thrift store.

And just for the record, they were anglo, no southern accent, and the mom
seemed educated/intelligent.

I was glad I said something. If it doesn't make any difference now, it might
with the girls' children later.

Sandra

Debra Kattler

I think it could also make a difference for the girls now, even if you
didn't convince the mom (although you planted a seed anyway). Now the
girls know (if they didn't already) that there are other ways to be
treated. And the mother knows that they know. I admire your doing
that. I don't know if I would have been brave enough.

Debra

SandraDodd@... wrote:

>Half-price day at Savers, Holly wanted to go.
>The parking lot was full. We were in line to check out.
>
>The mom in front of me said to one of her kids, "Do you want a spanking?"
>I didn't look at the girl to see her response. I was looking at what I was
>looking at, and I would have had to turn 90 degrees. I didn't hear a response,
>but the mom said, "Do you want me to spank you in public?"
>
>I looked and the girl she was speaking to was at least 13, maybe 14.
>She has a younger sister with her and a third, younger yet (9?) came up later.
>
>The mom had been using a normal speaking voice, not mean, not loud, not
>sneaky-quiet. And I was standing closer to her than her girls were, even, and I
>said in the same normal-conversation voice, clearly to her, though I hadn't
>gotten her attention first: "If a man threatened to hit his wife, people would
>call the police."
>
>It was loud ough for her daughters and for Holly to hear. Maybe for the
>checker, too.
>
>Sh
>Ze paused and turned toward me toward the checker (not all the way around
>toward the kids) and said, "It's different with kids, I think."
>
>I said, "No it's not."
>
>Neither of us had been sharp or mean. We could've been talking about a scarf
>or the weather. She said, "Yes, it is," but she didn't say it as loudly or
>with conviction.
>
>Then her youngest daughter came up and said, "I don't want one of those!"
>(She was buying six plastic skeleton goblets, and the middle girl had seemed
>really happy about it earlier.) The mom said "Tough."
>
>I think Holly was more offended by that than the spanking threat.
>
>I can't imagine a mother spanking a teenaged girl in a thrift store.
>
>And just for the record, they were anglo, no southern accent, and the mom
>seemed educated/intelligent.
>
>I was glad I said something. If it doesn't make any difference now, it might
>with the girls' children later.
>
>Sandra
>
>
>



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k johnson

This brought up an experience I had the other day at the store, that still is in my heart...probably because I didn't do anything. Didn't know what to do. I was standing outside the bathroom door waiting for 2 of my kids to come out. I was next to the water fountain. This mother (I gathered) came up with her cart with her 2 (or so) year old in it with 3 other 7-11 year olds. She turned to them on her way into the bathroom, and said very harshly "stay there...don't move...don't leave the baby". The 8ish year old comes away to the water fountain (about 4 feet from the cart) to get a drink (just came into the store...hot summer here) and the mother stoped and very harshly said "get back to the cart!" The child said, "but I'm thirsty!" Mother said "get back to the cart" (much more harsh). The child said, "but I'm thirsty!" Mother said" get back now...1...2(now she's making her way over to the girl, angrily)...3(while wacking her on the lower back...missed the butt in her
anger). The girl then went over to the cart, rubbing and looking at her back, while the mother went into the bathroom. I think my mouth was open when the scene ended. And, also for the record...anglo, no accent...educated, well that depends on in who's opinion...

Katy
(lurker who hasn't introduced herself)



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 23:49:27 EDT
From: SandraDodd@...
Subject: speaking directly to another mom

Half-price day at Savers, Holly wanted to go.
The parking lot was full. We were in line to check out.

The mom in front of me said to one of her kids, "Do you want a spanking?"
I didn't look at the girl to see her response. I was looking at what I was
looking at, and I would have had to turn 90 degrees. I didn't hear a response,
but the mom said, "Do you want me to spank you in public?"

I looked and the girl she was speaking to was at least 13, maybe 14.
She has a younger sister with her and a third, younger yet (9?) came up later.

The mom had been using a normal speaking voice, not mean, not loud, not
sneaky-quiet. And I was standing closer to her than her girls were, even, and I
said in the same normal-conversation voice, clearly to her, though I hadn't
gotten her attention first: "If a man threatened to hit his wife, people would
call the police."

It was loud ough for her daughters and for Holly to hear. Maybe for the
checker, too.

Sh
Ze paused and turned toward me toward the checker (not all the way around
toward the kids) and said, "It's different with kids, I think."

I said, "No it's not."

Neither of us had been sharp or mean. We could've been talking about a scarf
or the weather. She said, "Yes, it is," but she didn't say it as loudly or
with conviction.

Then her youngest daughter came up and said, "I don't want one of those!"
(She was buying six plastic skeleton goblets, and the middle girl had seemed
really happy about it earlier.) The mom said "Tough."

I think Holly was more offended by that than the spanking threat.

I can't imagine a mother spanking a teenaged girl in a thrift store.

And just for the record, they were anglo, no southern accent, and the mom
seemed educated/intelligent.

I was glad I said something. If it doesn't make any difference now, it might
with the girls' children later.

Sandra



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