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>>>>>>> If anyone has suggestions to what they did (those who pulled childrenout to
unschool) I would appreciate. <<<<<<<<<<<
Somewhere there's something I've written on deschooling Cameron. He was in
private school from pre-K through sixth grade.
If someone (Joyce?, Sandra?) knows where it is, could you please post it? I
don't have one handy. I've written it so many times, I feel that I could
probably write it in my sleep----but it ain't gonna' to happen tonight! <g>
It mostly takes patience on YOUR part and throwing yourself into your own
interests. Keep offering whatever you're doing to him, but don't push.
Cameron took eighteen months of *literally*: eating, sleeping, watching tv,
talking on the phone, and healing before he "came out" of his school-hell. He's
now *so* interested and interesting that it's scary! <g>
If no one can find it for you, I'll try to spit another one out.
Life is indeed different for those of us that must DEschool ourselves and our
children than it is for those fortunate ones who "get it" before they send
their kids to school.
~Kelly
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Wife2Vegman
--- kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
what she did when her kids said they were bored.
She said she just very sweetly pulled up a chair next
to her wherever she was working/doing something,
patted the seat invitingly, and said, "why don't you
just sit here and help me until you can think of
something to do?"
The kid usually thought of something wonderful to do
in about 3 minutes ;-)
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> >>>>>>> If anyone has suggestions to what they didI have a friend who has 10 children. I once asked her
> (those who pulled children
> out to
> unschool) I would appreciate. <<<<<<<<<<<
>
what she did when her kids said they were bored.
She said she just very sweetly pulled up a chair next
to her wherever she was working/doing something,
patted the seat invitingly, and said, "why don't you
just sit here and help me until you can think of
something to do?"
The kid usually thought of something wonderful to do
in about 3 minutes ;-)
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--Susan in VA
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That is so thoughtful...I am going to use this :). What a great response.
Ticia
I have a friend who has 10 children. I once asked her
what she did when her kids said they were bored.
She said she just very sweetly pulled up a chair next
to her wherever she was working/doing something,
patted the seat invitingly, and said, "why don't you
just sit here and help me until you can think of
something to do?"
The kid usually thought of something wonderful to do
in about 3 minutes ;-)
=====
--Susan in VA
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Ticia
I have a friend who has 10 children. I once asked her
what she did when her kids said they were bored.
She said she just very sweetly pulled up a chair next
to her wherever she was working/doing something,
patted the seat invitingly, and said, "why don't you
just sit here and help me until you can think of
something to do?"
The kid usually thought of something wonderful to do
in about 3 minutes ;-)
=====
--Susan in VA
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Ren
"She said she just very sweetly pulled up a chair next
to her wherever she was working/doing something,
patted the seat invitingly, and said, "why don't you
just sit here and help me until you can think of
something to do?"
No, no, no!!!:) At least she said it sweetly...but I do not like these kind of responses to children's boredom.
The reason being, I remember as a child my mother inviting me to do chores with her so I wouldn't be bored anymore....DUH, that's NOT what I wanted to do, MORE boring stuff!!
It would have done wonders for our relationship and increased my potential to learn ten-fold if she'd helped me find something really fun to do.
The call "I'm bored" is a request for help. It's a chance for a parent to interact with their child in a meaningful way. There's nothing wrong with inviting the child to do what you are doing, but if that doesn't interest them, why not brainstorm TOGETHER and come up with something neat?
Ren
"I never teach my pupils; I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn."
Albert Einstein
to her wherever she was working/doing something,
patted the seat invitingly, and said, "why don't you
just sit here and help me until you can think of
something to do?"
No, no, no!!!:) At least she said it sweetly...but I do not like these kind of responses to children's boredom.
The reason being, I remember as a child my mother inviting me to do chores with her so I wouldn't be bored anymore....DUH, that's NOT what I wanted to do, MORE boring stuff!!
It would have done wonders for our relationship and increased my potential to learn ten-fold if she'd helped me find something really fun to do.
The call "I'm bored" is a request for help. It's a chance for a parent to interact with their child in a meaningful way. There's nothing wrong with inviting the child to do what you are doing, but if that doesn't interest them, why not brainstorm TOGETHER and come up with something neat?
Ren
"I never teach my pupils; I only attempt to provide the conditions in which they can learn."
Albert Einstein
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> >>The call "I'm bored" is a request for help. It's a chance for a parent toI'm not sure that it is always a request for help. It could just be a
> interact with their child in a meaningful way. <<
statement of fact, how a person is feeling at that particular moment in time. Not
always is it a statement of I'm bored and I want you to help me fix it. I
think that inviting a child to sit and help or watch could be a good thing. The
person didn't say that the Mom said "help me do the dishes and you won't be
bored."
She stated >> "She said she just very sweetly pulled up a chair next
to her wherever she was working/doing something,
patted the seat invitingly, and said, "why don't you
just sit here and help me until you can think of
something to do?"<<
The Mom could have been engaged in something that is her passion something
she is really interested in, and that might give the child the chance to see the
Mom really passionate about something. See that the Mom has interesting
things going on in her life. It might be something the child would be interested
in as well.
I can see helping a child find some ideas if the child wants that kind of
help. Just not sure that every "I'm bored" statement is asking for that kind of
help.
Just a couple of thoughts.
Pam G
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Wife2Vegman
--- Genant2@... wrote:
do something with mom meant there would be some rare
one-on-one time while Mom was fixing dinner, folding
laundry, or in this particular family, playing piano
or running her homemade bread baking business.
She never forced them to do whatever she was doing,
just invited them to sit with her until they thought
of something else to do.
And knowing my friend, the child didn't sit there in a
time-out not talking, but she engaged them in
discussing activities or their thoughts.
In a family of 10 kids, I never saw chore charts or
reward charts or anything like that, either. It was a
mystery to me how everything got done, and her kids
were always around the house doing things like three
would playing their instruments together, another two
would be playing house, two more would be outside on
the swings, and two more playing legos or sword
fighting or whatever, and the baby would be watching
it all from the arms of one of them or her swing.
It was the calmest happiest family I've ever seen, but
I couldn't begin to tell you how. LOL! I always left
their house wondering why mine seemed so chaotic in
comparison, with at the time just two kids.
I'm sure they weren't perfect, and I know there were
health problems with a few of the kids, and "learning
problems", but the mom took everything in stride and
the oldest ones seem to have gone on to be happy and
successful in their chosen paths. The middle and
young ones are still home and appear to be happy and
kind hearted.
Oh well, I just threw the story out there as one way I
saw someone deal with the question of "I'm bored".
So...should we try to help the kids solve their
boredom, or should we let it be fodder for creativity?
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>I'm sure in a family of 10 children being invited to
>
> I think that inviting a child to sit and help or
> watch could be a good thing. The
> person didn't say that the Mom said "help me do the
> dishes and you won't be
> bored."
do something with mom meant there would be some rare
one-on-one time while Mom was fixing dinner, folding
laundry, or in this particular family, playing piano
or running her homemade bread baking business.
She never forced them to do whatever she was doing,
just invited them to sit with her until they thought
of something else to do.
And knowing my friend, the child didn't sit there in a
time-out not talking, but she engaged them in
discussing activities or their thoughts.
In a family of 10 kids, I never saw chore charts or
reward charts or anything like that, either. It was a
mystery to me how everything got done, and her kids
were always around the house doing things like three
would playing their instruments together, another two
would be playing house, two more would be outside on
the swings, and two more playing legos or sword
fighting or whatever, and the baby would be watching
it all from the arms of one of them or her swing.
It was the calmest happiest family I've ever seen, but
I couldn't begin to tell you how. LOL! I always left
their house wondering why mine seemed so chaotic in
comparison, with at the time just two kids.
I'm sure they weren't perfect, and I know there were
health problems with a few of the kids, and "learning
problems", but the mom took everything in stride and
the oldest ones seem to have gone on to be happy and
successful in their chosen paths. The middle and
young ones are still home and appear to be happy and
kind hearted.
Oh well, I just threw the story out there as one way I
saw someone deal with the question of "I'm bored".
So...should we try to help the kids solve their
boredom, or should we let it be fodder for creativity?
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--Susan in VA
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In a message dated 1/24/04 9:21:39 AM, wifetovegman2002@... writes:
<< So...should we try to help the kids solve their
boredom, or should we let it be fodder for creativity?
depends."
Sandra
<< So...should we try to help the kids solve their
boredom, or should we let it be fodder for creativity?
>>The answer to most good, honest questions involving human beings is "it
depends."
Sandra
nellebelle
>>>>So...should we try to help the kids solve theirboredom, or should we let it be fodder for creativity?>>>>
How about helping our kids use their boredom as fodder for creativity?
Mary Ellen
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