The Mowery Family

Wonder if we could scan and put up our signatures and a few sentences for folks to have a look see. I like my cursive, my signature looks like a doctors who has been on an all night bender.

Can anyone write with both hands at once? I can, but the left hand is a mirror image of the right - not as neat mind you, but you can make out the words. Other than that nifty party trick, I can't write for squat with my left hand.

sistakammi


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In a message dated 12/28/01 7:41:03 PM, jkkddmowery@... writes:

<< Wonder if we could scan and put up our signatures and a few sentences for
folks to have a look see. I like my cursive, my signature looks like a
doctors who has been on an all night bender. >>

I could mail mine to someone who could scan and put it up.

Would we need another photo album to put handwriting in?
Would we need another list altogether?
Are we irritating the Bejeeezus out of people who don't know why we don't
just talk about unschooling all the time?

If someone is scan-wise and interested in putting in stuff for those who are
scan-deficient (my scanner is unplugged, banished, for messing up my
computer, and will become a gift for my friend with a PC), tell us where to
mail these handwriting samples. And what do we write? I think it should be
John Holt quotes, or other unschooling-promoting quips. How long? What
letters need to jump over the lazy dogs for any of you who actually know much
about handwriting analysis?

Sandra

Karin

LOL Sandra!
Who needs to go out on a Friday night with this kind of humor available on my own computer? Beats going to any comedy club....
BTW, I enjoyed seeing the very nice picture of you and your family. Very thoughtful of you to post it - and the other's too! :-)

Karin
also having scanner problems



>I could mail mine to someone who could scan and put it up.

>Would we need another photo album to put handwriting in?
>Would we need another list altogether?
>Are we irritating the Bejeeezus out of people who don't know why we don't
>just talk about unschooling all the time?

>If someone is scan-wise and interested in putting in stuff for those who are
>scan-deficient (my scanner is unplugged, banished, for messing up my
>computer, and will become a gift for my friend with a PC), tell us where to
>mail these handwriting samples. And what do we write? I think it should be
>John Holt quotes, or other unschooling-promoting quips. How long? What
>letters need to jump over the lazy dogs for any of you who actually know much
>about handwriting analysis?

>Sandra


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In a message dated 12/28/01 6:41:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jkkddmowery@... writes:

<<
Can anyone write with both hands at once? I can, but the left hand is a
mirror image of the right - not as neat mind you, but you can make out the
words. Other than that nifty party trick, I can't write for squat with my
left hand. >>

No but I have a friend who can write perfectly backwards in cursive. Like
sdrawkcab, quickly. In fact I think she might be a lefty. Cool trick. She
will write and entire page
backwards (why I don't know LOL).

Kathy

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In a message dated 12/29/01 12:59:17 AM, Natrlmama@... writes:

<< No but I have a friend who can write perfectly backwards in cursive. Like
sdrawkcab, quickly. In fact I think she might be a lefty. Cool trick. She
will write and entire page
backwards (why I don't know LOL). >>

#1 I'm up in the middle of the night
#2 I can write backwards in cursive.

I used to write out the lyrics to friends' favorite songs backwards, and they
would tape them in windows at home so the light shone through and it looked
forward.

"Why" is because school was boring and we entertained ourselves.

The backwards cursive is my Jr. High handwriting.

Sandra

Sharon Rudd

Me too. Only I turned in the papers in grammer
school. Poor Mother had to go to "conferences" one in
a while when they asked "why?". Just somehting to do
to add another step between me and boredom. My 1st
grade teacher (she was German, with accent) was quite
tolerant, even amused. She just used a mirror to
grade them. Everyone else saw it a freakish. I also
decorated the margins with seasonal drawings or things
apporpriate to the "lesson". 7th grade social studies
teacher gave me an "F" on EVERY paper so embelished.
(sigh) She had no taste.

OK if I just write SOS instead of Sharon of the Swamp?

> #1 I'm up in the middle of the night
> #2 I can write backwards in cursive.
>
> I used to write out the lyrics to friends' favorite
> songs backwards, and they
> would tape them in windows at home so the light
> shone through and it looked
> forward.
>
> "Why" is because school was boring and we
> entertained ourselves.


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In a message dated 12/29/01 2:20:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

<< Why" is because school was boring and we entertained ourselves. >>

Duh, how could I forget? Practicing my signature was always good.
Learning to make big shwoopies. Making a capital "W" the proper
cursive way, which I wasn't able to do really well until I was an adult.
My maiden name starts with a W. Now I have to really slow my
stroke down to make my handwriting look good. Typing on a
computer these past years has ruined me <g>!!

Kathy

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> jkkddmowery@... writes:
> <<
> Can anyone write with both hands at once? I can, but the left hand
is a
> mirror image of the right - not as neat mind you, but you can make out
the
> words. Other than that nifty party trick, I can't write for squat
> with my left hand. >>

My grandpa could to it perfectly, both sides were equally neat. He was a
lefty born 90 years ago, and in school, they tied his left hand to his
chest and made him use the right one... so he was really ambidextrous as
an adult, although I think as he got older, he reverted back to his left
hand for most things.

I can do it about as well as you can, I think - the right hand is much
neater, but the left is backwards and readable. :-)

Dar
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>
>My grandpa could to it perfectly, both sides were equally neat. He was a
>lefty born 90 years ago, and in school, they tied his left hand to his
>chest and made him use the right one... so he was really ambidextrous as
>an adult, although I think as he got older, he reverted back to his left
>hand for most things.

My great-grandparents did that to my grandmother around eating. She ate
with her left hand tied behind her back for months. Finally, one day when
they had company, they announced that Friedel would now demonstrate how she
could eat with her right hand. Since her left hand was untied, she picked
up her fork with her left hand. <g>
Tia

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Diane

Or practicing your parents' signature ;-) Helps with more than just the
boredom!

:-) Diane

Natrlmama@... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/29/01 2:20:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> SandraDodd@... writes:
>
> << Why" is because school was boring and we entertained ourselves. >>
>
> Duh, how could I forget? Practicing my signature was always good.
> Learning to make big shwoopies. Making a capital "W" the proper
> cursive way, which I wasn't able to do really well until I was an adult.
> My maiden name starts with a W. Now I have to really slow my
> stroke down to make my handwriting look good. Typing on a
> computer these past years has ruined me <g>!!
>
> Kathy

The Mowery Family

I can hit a baseball or a golf ball either as a lefty or a rightie, it
drives my hubby mad.

Years ago I worked with a surgeon who was ambidextrous, they said watching
him during surgery was like watching a ballet, he was go graceful.

sistakammi



> My grandpa could to it perfectly, both sides were equally neat. He was a
> lefty born 90 years ago, and in school, they tied his left hand to his
> chest and made him use the right one... so he was really ambidextrous as
> an adult, although I think as he got older, he reverted back to his left
> hand for most things.
>

Joylyn

The only time I was suspended from school was when I almost successfully
signed a paper for my pricipal.

I can still sign my dad's name better than he can--my mom's too!

Joylyn

Diane wrote:

> Or practicing your parents' signature ;-) Helps with more than just
> the
> boredom!
>
> :-) Diane
>
> Natrlmama@... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 12/29/01 2:20:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> > SandraDodd@... writes:
> >
> > << Why" is because school was boring and we entertained ourselves.
> >>
> >
> > Duh, how could I forget? Practicing my signature was always good.
> > Learning to make big shwoopies. Making a capital "W" the proper
> > cursive way, which I wasn't able to do really well until I was an
> adult.
> > My maiden name starts with a W. Now I have to really slow my
> > stroke down to make my handwriting look good. Typing on a
> > computer these past years has ruined me <g>!!
> >
> > Kathy
>
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meghan anderson

<<<<Or practicing your parents' signature ;-) Helps
with more than just the boredom!

:-) Diane>>>>

LOL!! Oh yes, this was me. I thought of this when I
first read the post about writing your signature over
and over. I just wasn't brave enough to admit to it. I
was the queen of cutting school and not getting caught
thanks to my skillful forging <beg>.

Meghan :-)



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And for older girls, there's the ever-popular (although probably less so now)
writing your first name with lastest crush or boyfriend's last name over and
over.

:-) Diane

meghan anderson wrote:

> <<<<Or practicing your parents' signature ;-) Helps
> with more than just the boredom!
>
> :-) Diane>>>>
>
> LOL!! Oh yes, this was me. I thought of this when I
> first read the post about writing your signature over
> and over. I just wasn't brave enough to admit to it. I
> was the queen of cutting school and not getting caught
> thanks to my skillful forging <beg>.
>
> Meghan :-)

Nanci Kuykendall

>I was the queen of cutting school and not getting
>caught thanks to my skillful forging <beg>.
>Meghan :-)

We were supposed to forge notes? I never even tried.
I just walked out, so many times. By 14 I had given
up on even going through the motions anymore and
forced my will on parents and county and got into an
Independent Study HS, then tested out as soon as
legally possible. But then I did not have the idyllic
childhoods I am hearing about here and I grew up in a
major city. There were plenty of kids who were
drunks, drug addicts, and/or having sex by graduation,
and I am talking about MIDDLE School here (10-14) and
drinking, drugging and sex ON SCHOOL GROUNDS. Who
knows what they did when they were NOT at school...

Maybe I was a wild child too, at that, but I never
looked at myself that way, and my friends nicknamed me
the "Straight Edge" in more ways than one, but also
because I was the tamest and most responsible by far
among them.

Nanci K.

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In a message dated 1/27/02 5:43:20 AM, rsrascals@... writes:

<< I have recently purchased a calligraphy kit in hopes of improving enough
to
actually write letters and stuff. I have had relatives call my mother to
know my return address b/c they could not read my writing. : P >>

John Holt, in one of those books, tells of a challenge in which he was
telling students, when he was teaching, that cursive was faster. So to
demonstrate, he raced some habitual printers. He didn't win. It surprised
him, because the big argument for cursive has always been "faster." So he
started printing.

That's one of the biggest school-wounds on a lot of people, is having been
forbidden to print and then told their writing was illegible.

Sandra

Joy Sypher

<<big argument for cursive has always been "faster." So he
started printing.
That's one of the biggest school-wounds on a lot of people, is having been
forbidden to print and then told their writing was illegible.>>

And typing even faster. Even with one finger at a time Michael is faster at typing than printing.
Michael is third generation (maybe more) sloppy writer. FIL doesn't write and his printing is somewhat legible. My dad didn't write and his printing was only legible after years of torture by the school system. Ruler to the hands and all. Dh's writing is non-existent and his printing is so bad that I often can not decipher it, and I'm good at that. Going through the school system in a Spec ed class Michael a least missed most of the trauma of learning to write or print legibly. He only types one fingered but it is so much faster than his printing.
Joy in NM

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<<That's one of the biggest school-wounds on a lot of people, is having
been
forbidden to print and then told their writing was illegible.

Sandra>>

This brings to mind a question I encountered with my daughter. She is
not interested in hand writing but mastered enough so she could function.
She doesn't see a need for cursive but the bank recently requested that
she "sign" her withdrawal slip in cursive. She refused and they took her
PRINTED signature. Actually, I think the best lesson of the year was
learned right there.

I didn't know what to tell her when she asked me why. My guess was that
it's just another one of those things that is required because "they" say
it's necessary, no logic or reasoning required.

Kris


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In a message dated 1/29/02 3:36:07 PM, louisam1@... writes:

<< I didn't know what to tell her when she asked me why. My guess was that
it's just another one of those things that is required because "they" say
it's necessary, no logic or reasoning required. >>

When I was a teen and opened my first savings account, I had the same
problem. My "handwriting" was a form of what now would be called somewhat
D'Nealean. The teller refused to accept my signature because she said it was
printing. I shrugged and said that's what my signature looks like. The
manager said the problem was, printing is much more easily forged than
cursive writing. I didn't say anything else, and eventually they opened the
account.

My kids' father wants them to learn cursive, claiming they'll be unable to
function in the world without it. I've pointed out to him that his cursive
writing is almost illegible, that for years I asked him to print letters to
me from shipboard so I could read it.

Emma is working with calligraphy, because she thinks it's pretty. Nick
prints -- and developed clearly readable writing when Dungeon and Dragon
worksheets because critical tools.

Sharon

Reenie

Eve has learned to write using all caps- I never thought it was big deal until my friend had a fit about it. She said "Bob Jones (curriculum)" said that this would harm and confuse her- (snort)
Eve doesn't seem confused to me- she writes quite a bit for a 5yo and I've noticed is starting to incorporate some lower cased letters.
Reenie


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In a message dated 2/21/02 6:20:51 AM, ezmaralda@... writes:

<< She said "Bob Jones (curriculum)" said that this would harm and confuse
her- (snort) >>

I had a friend teaching pre-school for the deaf when Kirby was coming into
his school-age years and not being sent to school. She saw him writing in
all caps one day and said it was REALLY a bad thing to be doing, and I HAD to
get him to use lower case. I said someday I'm sure he will. She had that
look pass over her like "Do I remember the number for the social services
office?" But here she is with beautiful handwriting learned in Catholic
school and does NOT write for fun, not one word. We've known each other for
many, many years, and in all the opportunities for her to write any little
summary or description or article, she left it to me or someone else to do
it. She has a writing aversion like some poeple have math- or
reading-aversions. So I thought it quite a "consider the source" moment.
She wanted Kirby to suffer as she had suffered, and to be ready for the tests
and measures her special ed kids' IPCs required.

"It's Not Fair" was hanging in the air.

Sandra