susan

On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 01:45 AM,
[email protected] wrote:

> Maybe we could park near the midschool a time or two as kids are
> coming and
> going and she could watch them and see what she thinks. She does a
> lot of
> her impression getting on an emotional level. If the look/feel like
> they're
> having fun, she'll be intrigued. If they seem mean or unhappy, she
> won't be.


Except I think that kids are even more social than usual when they're
together and not in class 'cause they're trying to get the most out of
being together while they can--especially when they're leaving school.
They might appear to be having a great time.

Susan

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In a message dated 11/3/03 4:48:57 AM, strandbe@... writes:

<< Except I think that kids are even more social than usual when they're
together and not in class 'cause they're trying to get the most out of
being together while they can--especially when they're leaving school.
They might appear to be having a great time.
>>

Maybe. She sees a lot of high school kids between our house and Active
Imagination where Kirby works. The little corner strip mall building thing where
that shop is is built right in the corner of the bigger corner which houses the
high school Kirby and Marty don't attend <g>. To the south is the soccer
field and gym. To the east is the parking lot and all else. So at lunch kids
come into that mall (I wish I could sketch a picture of it here, it would be so
much easier) and there are places to hang out which aren't porches of stores.
Holly sees that they abandon backpacks (or forget them or swipe and leave
them in public places just to annoy or inconvenienc others), she sees some kids
being alone, she sees kids looking irritated. She sees them walking home, some
looking bummed, but others walking REALLY fast and heads up and we've talked
about that. Some are anxious to get home. For some, home is just going to
be chores and requirements. For some (as for me when I was in school) every
moment spent with other people is milked and so they stall and find reasons to
go slowly.

She's off the going to school kick now anyway and on to something else. We
talked, and she said she'd ask her friend Kitlin to just show her all her books
and homework sometime.

SHE SCARED ME, though. Maybe it was just halloween special effects, for her.
<g>

Sandra

badolbilz

Sandra, it might be better to let Holly see the looks on their faces as
they go into the school in the morning...in fact, does she realize how
much time it can take just to get ready for school in the morning?
Maybe you could get an honest weekly schedule from a kid her age which
shows all the time school takes, from getting ready to go, to staying
all day, to the work at night. Heidi

susan wrote:

>On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 01:45 AM,
>[email protected] wrote:
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>> Maybe we could park near the midschool a time or two as kids are
>>coming and
>>going and she could watch them and see what she thinks. She does a
>>lot of
>>her impression getting on an emotional level. If the look/feel like
>>they're
>>having fun, she'll be intrigued. If they seem mean or unhappy, she
>>won't be.
>>
>>
>
>
>Except I think that kids are even more social than usual when they're
>together and not in class 'cause they're trying to get the most out of
>being together while they can--especially when they're leaving school.
>They might appear to be having a great time.
>
>Susan
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In a message dated 11/3/03 9:13:47 AM, ynxn96@... writes:

<< Sandra, it might be better to let Holly see the looks on their faces as
they go into the school in the morning...in fact, does she realize how
much time it can take just to get ready for school in the morning? >>

Good point!
She's rarely up early enough to see any kids go to school.

When we talked about this yesterday, when I asked her if she was serious
about wanting to go to school, she said she wouldn't want to go to a school with
any strict dress codes, and why did they have those dress codes anyway? I told
her if she dressed as she usually dresses, it would be more interesting for
kids to look at her than to listen to the teacher, so teachers liked kids to be
more boring than they were. <g>

<<Maybe you could get an honest weekly schedule from a kid her age which
shows all the time school takes, from getting ready to go, to staying
all day, to the work at night. >>

YEAH! And wake her up and get her dressed and feed her and then make sure
she eats NOTHING for at least three hours, not one bite, and then make sure the
food is three hours old or more (or randomly chosen for her <bwg>) and then no
food for another three hours.

That would last about two... hours.

Sandra

Karen

<<Maybe you could get an honest weekly schedule from a kid her age which
shows all the time school takes, from getting ready to go, to staying
all day, to the work at night. >>

>>YEAH! And wake her up and get her dressed and feed her and then make sure

she eats NOTHING for at least three hours, not one bite, and then make sure
the
food is three hours old or more (or randomly chosen for her <bwg>) and then
no
food for another three hours.

That would last about two... hours.

Sandra<<

That's exactly what I did for my then-6-yo dd last year when she wanted to
go to school so badly. I told her we'd have a "school day" and she pestered
me until we did. I got her up and dressed and fed and out the door by 7 (a
minor miracle there!) and we followed the local school bus on its route
until she was bored. I told her she would be talking to her friends during
this time, but she was a little grumpy from the early hour. Then we came
home and she perked up when she saw the desk and chalkboard I had set up. I
gave her worksheets and taught a couple of lessons, we had story time, etc.
It was cute when she would insist on my calling her by different names every
time she raised her hand, so she could act out all her classmates! She had
to raise her hand for permission to sharpen her pencil and go to the
bathroom, and when she was hungry I reminded her that lunch wasn't until 11.
I didn't try to make it seem horrible; I didn't have to. I remained cheerful
and upbeat. After lunch (chicken nuggets, peas, ketchup, jello, milk: sound
familiar?) she had "recess," and when I told her it was time to return to
her desk, she looked sad and I asked her if she wanted our experiment to
end. She said "yes!" Her memory of all that is that you starve at school,
and it's too early in the day. She hasn't expressed interest since, although
she did want to go to a local homeschooler science class this year that
she's really enjoying. I think 90 minutes once a week is schooly enough to
get that urge out of her system.

What's interesting is that when people ask her where she goes to school,
she'll tell them the name of the science center. She never says she
homeschools, or unschools. Those aren't concepts for her. What she does
there is school, and what we do here is life, and I like that! :)

Karen

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In a message dated 11/4/03 6:27:49 AM, kbmatlock@... writes:

<< What's interesting is that when people ask her where she goes to school,
she'll tell them the name of the science center. She never says she
homeschools, or unschools. Those aren't concepts for her. What she does
there is school, and what we do here is life, and I like that! :) >>

Holly used to go to dance classes, and when other little girls talked about
their teachers, she would talk about her dance teacher, so she wasn't left out.
Just little things like "What's your teacher's name?" or "So you like your
teacher?" allowed her to stay in the conversation instead of having to say "I
don't have one."

Sandra