Re: registered of not in NC
Kathy
Whoops!
Pam, I was surprised to see your response that NC does not have many
requirements. When I moved to NC I was upset to learn about the
standardized test requirement. I know it is really easy to do it
with no grade level requirement or minimum scoring or reporting, but
I don't want to subject my kids to the testing at all.
Do you have any info re: the possible consequences for not filing a
Notice of Intent to homeschool & if you do notify, what if you fail
to test?
It is my understanding that you only have to keep records for one
year, so I guess you could just file your Notice of Intent & then if
you are ever notified that the gov't wants to review your records you
could have your child take the test at that point.
Thanks for your input. Kat.
Pam, I was surprised to see your response that NC does not have many
requirements. When I moved to NC I was upset to learn about the
standardized test requirement. I know it is really easy to do it
with no grade level requirement or minimum scoring or reporting, but
I don't want to subject my kids to the testing at all.
Do you have any info re: the possible consequences for not filing a
Notice of Intent to homeschool & if you do notify, what if you fail
to test?
It is my understanding that you only have to keep records for one
year, so I guess you could just file your Notice of Intent & then if
you are ever notified that the gov't wants to review your records you
could have your child take the test at that point.
Thanks for your input. Kat.
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/17/03 5:07:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ndb1499@... writes:
quick response here.
If you do not file a notice of intent then you are not a homschooler. You
are considered a truant public schooler. That is how they will look at it if
anyone ever decided to question you or the school (thinking of neighbors here).
For us we use the Children's skills test which is a computer type of test set
up like a game. My boy stake the grade they want and that is easy since they
have no concept of grade level at all. It is very low key, my boys hate
anything timed, but this is easy for them since they know the results mean
nothing. I print it, don't look at it and file it away. No big deal here.
But yes, the state does have to give you notice if they were ever to come
visit and this test is all at home so you could do it in a day. There are some
that require you to send away for the results.
Not sure if there are any consequences to not testing and proclaiming so.
But I do not know anyone that has been visited. Not one person.
Pam G
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ndb1499@... writes:
> Do you have any info re: the possible consequences for not filing aHey Kat I did reply to your post on the NCunschoolers list but will make a
> Notice of Intent to homeschool &if you do notify, what if you fail
> to test?
>
>
quick response here.
If you do not file a notice of intent then you are not a homschooler. You
are considered a truant public schooler. That is how they will look at it if
anyone ever decided to question you or the school (thinking of neighbors here).
For us we use the Children's skills test which is a computer type of test set
up like a game. My boy stake the grade they want and that is easy since they
have no concept of grade level at all. It is very low key, my boys hate
anything timed, but this is easy for them since they know the results mean
nothing. I print it, don't look at it and file it away. No big deal here.
But yes, the state does have to give you notice if they were ever to come
visit and this test is all at home so you could do it in a day. There are some
that require you to send away for the results.
Not sure if there are any consequences to not testing and proclaiming so.
But I do not know anyone that has been visited. Not one person.
Pam G
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[email protected]
I just sent in my letter of intent to NC. Another homeschooling friend here
told me that she got a letter this year that said she could choose to send in
her attendance records and test scores or her chances of getting a visit would
increase.
One of her friends said she deals with this by saying she will send the info,
then never does.
Does anyone know about this? I'm all for doing the least the law requires,
but don't want a home visit. My friend is very concerned and considering
sending in the paperwork.
Leslie
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told me that she got a letter this year that said she could choose to send in
her attendance records and test scores or her chances of getting a visit would
increase.
One of her friends said she deals with this by saying she will send the info,
then never does.
Does anyone know about this? I'm all for doing the least the law requires,
but don't want a home visit. My friend is very concerned and considering
sending in the paperwork.
Leslie
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[email protected]
In a message dated 10/17/03 04:07:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
ndb1499@... writes:
Pam, I was surprised to see your response that NC does not have many
requirements. When I moved to NC I was upset to learn about the
standardized test requirement. I know it is really easy to do it
with no grade level requirement or minimum scoring or reporting, but
I don't want to subject my kids to the testing at all.
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I don't understand the point. If there is no grade level requirement, then
you could just have your kids take the lowest grade level offered. If there is
no minimum scoring then it doesn't matter what test level kids take. And if you
don't have to report the scores then isn't that just a waste of a tree? (Not
that it isn't already) Where is the logic?
~Nancy
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ndb1499@... writes:
Pam, I was surprised to see your response that NC does not have many
requirements. When I moved to NC I was upset to learn about the
standardized test requirement. I know it is really easy to do it
with no grade level requirement or minimum scoring or reporting, but
I don't want to subject my kids to the testing at all.
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I don't understand the point. If there is no grade level requirement, then
you could just have your kids take the lowest grade level offered. If there is
no minimum scoring then it doesn't matter what test level kids take. And if you
don't have to report the scores then isn't that just a waste of a tree? (Not
that it isn't already) Where is the logic?
~Nancy
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Chris Bertrand
Nancy, your response, "What's the point" re: the NC testing requirement is
the exact reason I am questioning it, but also the reason so many people
just comply. If we start telling the "officials" that their testing
requirement is useless, they might try to add some teeth to it. In a way, I
may have just answered my own question. I really hate asking my children to
take a test like that. Who knows, it might be a non-issue. I have 2 years
to go & if you consider that you only have to do it once a year, then it is
almost 3 years away. A lot can happen in 3 years.
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:11:28 EDT
From: Dnowens@...
Subject: Re: Re: registered of not in NC
In a message dated 10/17/03 04:07:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
ndb1499@... writes:
Pam, I was surprised to see your response that NC does not have many
requirements. When I moved to NC I was upset to learn about the
standardized test requirement. I know it is really easy to do it
with no grade level requirement or minimum scoring or reporting, but I don't
want to subject my kids to the testing at all.
########################
I don't understand the point. If there is no grade level requirement, then
you could just have your kids take the lowest grade level offered. If there
is no minimum scoring then it doesn't matter what test level kids take. And
if you
don't have to report the scores then isn't that just a waste of a tree? (Not
that it isn't already) Where is the logic?
~Nancy
the exact reason I am questioning it, but also the reason so many people
just comply. If we start telling the "officials" that their testing
requirement is useless, they might try to add some teeth to it. In a way, I
may have just answered my own question. I really hate asking my children to
take a test like that. Who knows, it might be a non-issue. I have 2 years
to go & if you consider that you only have to do it once a year, then it is
almost 3 years away. A lot can happen in 3 years.
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:11:28 EDT
From: Dnowens@...
Subject: Re: Re: registered of not in NC
In a message dated 10/17/03 04:07:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
ndb1499@... writes:
Pam, I was surprised to see your response that NC does not have many
requirements. When I moved to NC I was upset to learn about the
standardized test requirement. I know it is really easy to do it
with no grade level requirement or minimum scoring or reporting, but I don't
want to subject my kids to the testing at all.
########################
I don't understand the point. If there is no grade level requirement, then
you could just have your kids take the lowest grade level offered. If there
is no minimum scoring then it doesn't matter what test level kids take. And
if you
don't have to report the scores then isn't that just a waste of a tree? (Not
that it isn't already) Where is the logic?
~Nancy
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/17/03 9:53:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Leslie530@... writes:
years. You send it in also to state how many children are currently enrolled in
your homeschool. Not by name but by age and gender. And yes that is what it
says. But it does not say your chances of a visit increase it says you are
willing to have a home visit. The Notice of intent says that as well. (that
you agree to a home visit). I know people who have sent it in both ways saying
they will send the info in and not send it in and still don't know anyone that
has had a home visit. This is a voluntary thing to send the info to the
state. It says this on the paper. I guess I figure if I am complying with the
law then it really doesn't matter if they visit or not.
They have three people who work in the NC DNPE and that covers private
schools as well. Sometime at the end of the year you will see a notice going around
from the department asking for volunteers to help file int he office. I do
believe that is to help file all that paperwork from the thousands of people
who chose to voluntary send int he information. They ask for attendance
records, and test results.
Pam G
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Leslie530@... writes:
> Does anyone know about this? I'm all for doing the least the law requires,They send out this post card after you have been homeschooling a couple of
>
> but don't want a home visit. My friend is very concerned and considering
> sending in the paperwork.
>
>
years. You send it in also to state how many children are currently enrolled in
your homeschool. Not by name but by age and gender. And yes that is what it
says. But it does not say your chances of a visit increase it says you are
willing to have a home visit. The Notice of intent says that as well. (that
you agree to a home visit). I know people who have sent it in both ways saying
they will send the info in and not send it in and still don't know anyone that
has had a home visit. This is a voluntary thing to send the info to the
state. It says this on the paper. I guess I figure if I am complying with the
law then it really doesn't matter if they visit or not.
They have three people who work in the NC DNPE and that covers private
schools as well. Sometime at the end of the year you will see a notice going around
from the department asking for volunteers to help file int he office. I do
believe that is to help file all that paperwork from the thousands of people
who chose to voluntary send int he information. They ask for attendance
records, and test results.
Pam G
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[email protected]
In a message dated 10/17/03 12:18:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Dnowens@... writes:
it is very easy to do and don't want any more requirements. The law is just
very vague.
Pam G
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Dnowens@... writes:
> I don't understand the point. If there is no grade level requirement, thenYou would have to ask the state. I just comply with the law because I feel
> you could just have your kids take the lowest grade level offered. If there
> is
> no minimum scoring then it doesn't matter what test level kids take. And if
> you
> don't have to report the scores then isn't that just a waste of a tree? (Not
>
> that it isn't already) Where is the logic?
>
it is very easy to do and don't want any more requirements. The law is just
very vague.
Pam G
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[email protected]
In a message dated 10/18/2003 8:06:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
genant2@... writes:
I guess I figure if I am complying with the
law then it really doesn't matter if they visit or not.
~~~
But I wouldn't allow them to visit, on principle. Invasive and unnecessary.
Accomplishes NOTHING.
Tuck
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genant2@... writes:
I guess I figure if I am complying with the
law then it really doesn't matter if they visit or not.
~~~
But I wouldn't allow them to visit, on principle. Invasive and unnecessary.
Accomplishes NOTHING.
Tuck
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[email protected]
In a message dated 10/18/03 9:11:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Tuckervill@... writes:
supports it, that they can make homevisits when they like but do have to give notice
before coming. In order to file for your NOI you have to agree to this. I
am not saying that you "have" to let them in just if you do not, after you
agreed to, they might assume, correctly or incorrectly, that you have something to
hide and will probably take further actions.
It isn't a home inspection, as there are no regulation like for day care or
private schools, it s just to "review your records".
Now I know some out there choose to not comply based on principal but I am
not one of them. I do the minimum to comply so that I do not in any way put my
boys in jeopardy of any state intervention.
Pam G
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Tuckervill@... writes:
> But I wouldn't allow them to visit, on principle. Invasive andBut in NC when you fill out your notice of intent it says, and the law
> unnecessary.
> Accomplishes NOTHING.
>
>
supports it, that they can make homevisits when they like but do have to give notice
before coming. In order to file for your NOI you have to agree to this. I
am not saying that you "have" to let them in just if you do not, after you
agreed to, they might assume, correctly or incorrectly, that you have something to
hide and will probably take further actions.
It isn't a home inspection, as there are no regulation like for day care or
private schools, it s just to "review your records".
Now I know some out there choose to not comply based on principal but I am
not one of them. I do the minimum to comply so that I do not in any way put my
boys in jeopardy of any state intervention.
Pam G
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[email protected]
Thanks, Pam. I will pass this info on to my friend.
Leslie
<<<<They send out this post card after you have been homeschooling a couple
of
years. You send it in also to state how many children are currently enrolled
in
your homeschool. Not by name but by age and gender. And yes that is what it
says. But it does not say your chances of a visit increase it says you are
willing to have a home visit. >>>>
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Leslie
<<<<They send out this post card after you have been homeschooling a couple
of
years. You send it in also to state how many children are currently enrolled
in
your homeschool. Not by name but by age and gender. And yes that is what it
says. But it does not say your chances of a visit increase it says you are
willing to have a home visit. >>>>
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