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odd i was thinkng the other day how diffrent my girls are and my hubby said
well they say even though the same woman raised them they swear they had a dif
mom.
just thought I would ask ya all you think the growing up of mom had lots to
do with the extreem diffrences in there personalties?
viki 25 in few days:
i was real into herbs and herb garding very poor and we hiked for entrtainment
and went to ped mall and wore long skirts and played in fountans and sang
folk music viki also slept mostly with me till she was 14 wore what she wanted
and only restriction clouting and piercing and tats was no tats till 18 had
3 holes in ears one in nose at 17, she did do many other piercings after 18.
she played with make up every sience i can rember and i think she owns some
but doesnt wear it much.
niki 19 in 3 weeks:
I did the suburban mom thing. was very very stepford with her. she was
allowed to wear makeup and choose most her own clouthing. she is my babrie
doll. not a hair out of place. dresses up counstly. expect her to pull up in a
pink car any day.room never a mess and probley the most responsible of the 4
children, she did get her ears and belly button perced at 18 and is thinking
of a 1 inch tat if it can be hidden. I also must note when she was 16 i lost
150 lbs and shocked her, got way into leather and her dad and i started to
ride again she is also my step daughter and I did not start raising her full
time till she was almost8.
Lisa 13:
she was adopted and is my bio niece has many problems from adhd to reactive
attachment dis order. she arived in our lives when i went wild again with
leather and so forth. she dont want tats does play with make up some but as
make up isnt a issue in our house dont bother much with it. she did pierch her
ears and has recently talked about piercing her belly button.she is also home
schooled as of last year, most of the rad issues have disapeared, and adhd
isnt a issue at home we just dont give all the directions and dont do
cirruclumn stuff so it isnt a issue. she loves to travel and her main goal in
life seems to be she wants to do something to make a diffrence in the world
she belives one person can make a diffrence. she is the most creative in
crafts and sewing and she is self motavated and has adaped her own style of
every thing from clouthing to hair and in recent mo. her freinds are from all
walks of life and age groups she is the least judgmental of the 3 girls, sees
both the other girls as extreem on diffrent sides one is very right wing
other very left wing lisa evaluates things for herself more and more and as
she grows i see her think for herself isnt shocked at all when mom wears
leather or long skirts or looks like every other mom in area she wasnt shocked
when i died my hair red from yellow,isnt suprise when i wear high heals or go
barefoot,she got the best of both as I age I find I want to be more like her
a lil of what my mood strikes and more true to me. funny what unschooling in
what6 mo. can do to a family.
just a note oldest girl wish I had done same with her, yet enrolled her
daughter in kindergaden this year. and is moving her to dif school already.
asked me other day do you worrie about moving lisa nope I dont,(we are alll
moving to diffrent homes soon odd we all doing it at once) Lisa made freinds
in new home whil we where looking at the home.it is her way. and i will
contunie to work in small town so she can always come see her freinds here and
she told viki when ya home school kid ya dont worrie so much about a new
school. you just worrie how to arrange your room.
should mention there is a boy also:
anthony 26: step son got at age 15 almost 16 always been a distant young man
to me and every one quite like his dad.no motavation in any area. moved home a
year ago when he lost his car and house moving this week end in with girl
freind. his view of me is like lisa's her asked the other 2 girls why do you
think she is to old to wear what she wants she is only 43? and besides she is
her. not you. isnt it cool she can wear any thing and be comfy, you would
think you 2 would be more respectful to her she has done nota in her life but
love us. not sure I like the nota part. but apracated the kind words.
well now i have written a novel,
Dee

crystal.pina

Dee,

I think a lot of this has to do with birth order, too. My mother was a hippy-wanna-be. She would have lived on a commune and the whole 9 yards if she didn't have 5 kids. We grew up in the city but we did so much stuff outside the city that we all learned there was a life outside of there. Each one of us grew up to be totally different. I am the closest one like my mother. I go against the grain all the time. My next 2 siblings, sister and brother, got heavily into drugs and drinking and really don't know where they belong in this world. The next siblings are completely opposite to me. They believe in the system and the whole bourgois way of life. They want the big house with the black lacquer furniture and gold lamps and gaudy jobs and so on. I would hate to live like that. I like wood and antiques. We are completely different persons. You can hardly tell we grew up in the same house with the same mother.

Crystal
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From: ladymagic@...
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:03 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] funky mom's


odd i was thinkng the other day how diffrent my girls are and my hubby said
well they say even though the same woman raised them they swear they had a dif
mom.
just thought I would ask ya all you think the growing up of mom had lots to
do with the extreem diffrences in there personalties?
viki 25 in few days:
i was real into herbs and herb garding very poor and we hiked for entrtainment
and went to ped mall and wore long skirts and played in fountans and sang
folk music viki also slept mostly with me till she was 14 wore what she wanted
and only restriction clouting and piercing and tats was no tats till 18 had
3 holes in ears one in nose at 17, she did do many other piercings after 18.
she played with make up every sience i can rember and i think she owns some
but doesnt wear it much.
niki 19 in 3 weeks:
I did the suburban mom thing. was very very stepford with her. she was
allowed to wear makeup and choose most her own clouthing. she is my babrie
doll. not a hair out of place. dresses up counstly. expect her to pull up in a
pink car any day.room never a mess and probley the most responsible of the 4
children, she did get her ears and belly button perced at 18 and is thinking
of a 1 inch tat if it can be hidden. I also must note when she was 16 i lost
150 lbs and shocked her, got way into leather and her dad and i started to
ride again she is also my step daughter and I did not start raising her full
time till she was almost8.
Lisa 13:
she was adopted and is my bio niece has many problems from adhd to reactive
attachment dis order. she arived in our lives when i went wild again with
leather and so forth. she dont want tats does play with make up some but as
make up isnt a issue in our house dont bother much with it. she did pierch her
ears and has recently talked about piercing her belly button.she is also home
schooled as of last year, most of the rad issues have disapeared, and adhd
isnt a issue at home we just dont give all the directions and dont do
cirruclumn stuff so it isnt a issue. she loves to travel and her main goal in
life seems to be she wants to do something to make a diffrence in the world
she belives one person can make a diffrence. she is the most creative in
crafts and sewing and she is self motavated and has adaped her own style of
every thing from clouthing to hair and in recent mo. her freinds are from all
walks of life and age groups she is the least judgmental of the 3 girls, sees
both the other girls as extreem on diffrent sides one is very right wing
other very left wing lisa evaluates things for herself more and more and as
she grows i see her think for herself isnt shocked at all when mom wears
leather or long skirts or looks like every other mom in area she wasnt shocked
when i died my hair red from yellow,isnt suprise when i wear high heals or go
barefoot,she got the best of both as I age I find I want to be more like her
a lil of what my mood strikes and more true to me. funny what unschooling in
what6 mo. can do to a family.
just a note oldest girl wish I had done same with her, yet enrolled her
daughter in kindergaden this year. and is moving her to dif school already.
asked me other day do you worrie about moving lisa nope I dont,(we are alll
moving to diffrent homes soon odd we all doing it at once) Lisa made freinds
in new home whil we where looking at the home.it is her way. and i will
contunie to work in small town so she can always come see her freinds here and
she told viki when ya home school kid ya dont worrie so much about a new
school. you just worrie how to arrange your room.
should mention there is a boy also:
anthony 26: step son got at age 15 almost 16 always been a distant young man
to me and every one quite like his dad.no motavation in any area. moved home a
year ago when he lost his car and house moving this week end in with girl
freind. his view of me is like lisa's her asked the other 2 girls why do you
think she is to old to wear what she wants she is only 43? and besides she is
her. not you. isnt it cool she can wear any thing and be comfy, you would
think you 2 would be more respectful to her she has done nota in her life but
love us. not sure I like the nota part. but apracated the kind words.
well now i have written a novel,
Dee


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In a message dated 9/18/03 10:06:28 AM, ladymagic@... writes:

<< odd i was thinkng the other day how diffrent my girls are and my hubby
said
well they say even though the same woman raised them they swear they had a
dif
mom. >>

Even kids who are biologically matched and closer in age will have a
different experience with the same mom. Partly birth order, partly the financial and
physical realities of their "coming along."

With Kirby we were really poor, and most of his toys were from thrift stores.

With Marty I was selling Discovery Toys so we had really wonderful toys, NEW!
Lots!

Holly played with all those, and got her whole new bunch of girl toys given
to her from every direction, for being the first girl in my husband's family
for two generations, for being the first girl in our social group... She's
never really had to share a room, the boys have.

Lots of differences.

My sister and I are only 3.5 years apart, same dad and mom, and our
experiences of our dad, especially, are really different. Once when we were in our
20s she was arguing with me about how he was with us, and I realized during
that conversation that MY experience of my dad was just between me and him. We
had a relationship which was not the same as the relationship my sister had
with him, for who knows how many reasons.

I understand the differences, and I think it's interesting that you brought
it up, Dee.

Sandra

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think you may be right on that one I am the oldest also and most like my mom
in most areas. she also well now I think of it she did lol they have pic of me
getting out of vans ext carrying sighns.
sister under me is so oppiste lives in mansion wont have any thing to do with
us when our mom died her kids told mine we thought she was dead already(my
oldest looked up her oldest ) none of them came to funrel.funny she is the odd
one in our family talk about rebalion! eddie under her has drinking and
wominizing problems but a great dad and brother.
amanda well she has problems yecky realships 6 kids at least 2 of them adopted
out (I have one of em) her like the other sister wont talk to any the rest of
us cuz we didnt think agter her bf did what he did to lisa she should stay
with the fater of her 3 youngest, and retain coustdy of lisa, swore it wouldnt
happen again. that was it for me, being the oldest I am the care giver of
family,in lots ways.
so I guess you are right order may have lots to do with it. and lisa is lots
like me even though she is youngest but so far from the rest often she is
like a only child any more.
but odd how the pattern repeted I didnt notice till I read your post lol
Dee
fornately I do think there is more love with mine than my mothers children ,
so far . or maybe that is a mothers view point. lol
> Dee,
>
> I think a lot of this has to do with birth order, too. My mother was a
> hippy-wanna-be. She would have lived on a commune and the whole 9 yards if she
> didn't have 5 kids. We grew up in the city but we did so much stuff outside the
> city that we all learned there was a life outside of there. Each one of us grew
> up to be totally different. I am the closest one like my mother. I go against
> the grain all the time. My next 2 siblings, sister and brother, got heavily
> into drugs and drinking and really don't know where they belong in this world.
> The next siblings are completely opposite to me. They believe in the system and
> the whole bourgois way of life. They want the big house with the black lacquer
> furniture and gold lamps and gaudy jobs and so on. I would hate to live like
> that. I like wood and antiques. We are completely different persons. You can
> hardly tell we grew up in the same house with the same mother.
>
> Crystal
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ladymagic@...
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:03 PM
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] funky mom's
>
>
> odd i was thinkng the other day how diffrent my girls are and my hubby said
> well they say even though the same woman raised them they swear they had a dif
> mom.
> just thought I would ask ya all you think the growing up of mom had lots to
> do with the extreem diffrences in there personalties?
> viki 25 in few days:
> i was real into herbs and herb garding very poor and we hiked for entrtainment
> and went to ped mall and wore long skirts and played in fountans and sang
> folk music viki also slept mostly with me till she was 14 wore what she wanted
> and only restriction clouting and piercing and tats was no tats till 18 had
> 3 holes in ears one in nose at 17, she did do many other piercings after 18.
> she played with make up every sience i can rember and i think she owns some
> but doesnt wear it much.
> niki 19 in 3 weeks:
> I did the suburban mom thing. was very very stepford with her. she was
> allowed to wear makeup and choose most her own clouthing. she is my babrie
> doll. not a hair out of place. dresses up counstly. expect her to pull up in a
> pink car any day.room never a mess and probley the most responsible of the 4
> children, she did get her ears and belly button perced at 18 and is thinking
> of a 1 inch tat if it can be hidden. I also must note when she was 16 i lost
> 150 lbs and shocked her, got way into leather and her dad and i started to
> ride again she is also my step daughter and I did not start raising her full
> time till she was almost8.
> Lisa 13:
> she was adopted and is my bio niece has many problems from adhd to reactive
> attachment dis order. she arived in our lives when i went wild again with
> leather and so forth. she dont want tats does play with make up some but as
> make up isnt a issue in our house dont bother much with it. she did pierch her
> ears and has recently talked about piercing her belly button.she is also home
> schooled as of last year, most of the rad issues have disapeared, and adhd
> isnt a issue at home we just dont give all the directions and dont do
> cirruclumn stuff so it isnt a issue. she loves to travel and her main goal in
> life seems to be she wants to do something to make a diffrence in the world
> she belives one person can make a diffrence. she is the most creative in
> crafts and sewing and she is self motavated and has adaped her own style of
> every thing from clouthing to hair and in recent mo. her freinds are from all
> walks of life and age groups she is the least judgmental of the 3 girls, sees
> both the other girls as extreem on diffrent sides one is very right wing
> other very left wing lisa evaluates things for herself more and more and as
> she grows i see her think for herself isnt shocked at all when mom wears
> leather or long skirts or looks like every other mom in area she wasnt shocked
> when i died my hair red from yellow,isnt suprise when i wear high heals or go
> barefoot,she got the best of both as I age I find I want to be more like her
> a lil of what my mood strikes and more true to me. funny what unschooling in
> what6 mo. can do to a family.
> just a note oldest girl wish I had done same with her, yet enrolled her
> daughter in kindergaden this year. and is moving her to dif school already.
> asked me other day do you worrie about moving lisa nope I dont,(we are alll
> moving to diffrent homes soon odd we all doing it at once) Lisa made freinds
> in new home whil we where looking at the home.it is her way. and i will
> contunie to work in small town so she can always come see her freinds here and
> she told viki when ya home school kid ya dont worrie so much about a new
> school. you just worrie how to arrange your room.
> should mention there is a boy also:
> anthony 26: step son got at age 15 almost 16 always been a distant young man
> to me and every one quite like his dad.no motavation in any area. moved home a
> year ago when he lost his car and house moving this week end in with girl
> freind. his view of me is like lisa's her asked the other 2 girls why do you
> think she is to old to wear what she wants she is only 43? and besides she is
> her. not you. isnt it cool she can wear any thing and be comfy, you would
> think you 2 would be more respectful to her she has done nota in her life but
> love us. not sure I like the nota part. but apracated the kind words.
> well now i have written a novel,
> Dee
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