Nancy Wooton

on 8/19/03 10:06 AM, lurningathome@... at lurningathome@... wrote:

> <A
> HREF="http://dynamic.washtimes.com/print_story.cfm?StoryID=20030818-122327-951
> 7r">Conference highlights home-school benefits -- The Washington Times</A>
>

I particularly liked the acronym for the group, Home Educators Association
of Virginia (HEAV). I suppose it could be read as a shortened version of
"heaven."

Nancy


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-=-    Like other speakers at the two-day conference at McLean Bible Church's
conference center, Mr. Smith emphasized Christian faith. "We've decided to
train them for heaven, not for Harvard," he said. -=-
    

The rest of the article was better.

This is the kind of summary statement that used to make me grouchy and now
just makes me sad.


If I'm "training" my kids for anything, it's not heaven or Harvard.
It's just being wholly THEM, peaceful and confident.

Sandra

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In a message dated 8/19/03 12:26:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> The rest of the article was better.
>
> This is the kind of summary statement that used to make me grouchy and now
> just makes me sad.
>
>
> If I'm "training" my kids for anything, it's not heaven or Harvard.
> It's just being wholly THEM, peaceful and confident.
>
> Sandra

  Children home-schooled by devout parents academically outperform their
public school peers and reveal better character development, according to
home-education leaders who gathered during the weekend.
    "The battle for our children's souls is a war," Shelly Hendry of His
Image Ministries in Clarksville, Va., said at the Northern Virginia Home Education
Conference near Tysons Corner. "We're like those firefighters [on September
11] who walked into those flames to do a rescue."

I don't know that the rest of the article WAS much better. It makes it sound
as if Christians are the only people who homeschool, or that the only reason
for homeschooling is religion. And while I take my faith seriously, I do not
make it such that I can't laugh at myself or my ideas.

AND... I do not think of my children or raising my children as a battle
ground where I have to go and rescue them. The comparison of parents to
firefighters, reaching through flames to rescue souls is horrid and asinine, IMO. As for
training my kids, I do not look at it that way. I see my kids strengths and
weaknesses, I see their joys and fears and I give them the tools they need and
want at that moment. I show them God, I show them nature, I show them good
people who think clearly and are articulate and thoughtful. If they want to go to
Harvard or to Theology school, if they become stay-at-home parents, doctors,
or burger-flippers then so be it. That is their decision, not mine. I want them
to feel loved, and to grow up happy and content. They are kids, their souls
are fine and certainly not burning in flames. If they are at risk for anything
it is being loved too much, and I do not believe that is possible.

~Nancy


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Shyrley

Nancy Wooton wrote:

>on 8/19/03 10:06 AM, lurningathome@... at lurningathome@... wrote:
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>><A
>>HREF="http://dynamic.washtimes.com/print_story.cfm?StoryID=20030818-122327-951
>>7r">Conference highlights home-school benefits -- The Washington Times</A>
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>I particularly liked the acronym for the group, Home Educators Association
>of Virginia (HEAV). I suppose it could be read as a shortened version of
>"heaven."
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>Nancy
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Maybe its juts me....I always read it as 'heave' as in throwing up ;-)

Shyrley


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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:30:54 -0400 Shyrley <shyrley@...>
writes:
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> Maybe its juts me....I always read it as 'heave' as in throwing up
> ;-)
>
Oh, me too! I'd always wondering why a group would chose that particular
acronym... it reminded me of Hermione's SPEW.

Of course, when we were involved with the Alameda-Oakland Home Learners
group, I always saw AOHL as a**hole, so perhaps it's just my weird
brain... and Shyrley's!

Dar

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In a message dated 8/20/03 12:53:17 AM, Dnowens@... writes:

<< I don't know that the rest of the article WAS much better. It makes it
sound

as if Christians are the only people who homeschool, or that the only reason

for homeschooling is religion. >>

But that's how they ALWAYS write. <g>
Their reality of homeschooling is either unaware of "secular homeschoolers,"
or else they acknowledge them as some sort of come-lately parasites on the
Christian homeschooling movement. But still, as exposure to homeschooling, for
people who read one article, it's not usually so off-putting/alarming as that
last part was.

<<

AND... I do not think of my children or raising my children as a battle

ground where I have to go and rescue them. The comparison of parents to

firefighters, reaching through flames to rescue souls is horrid and asinine,
IMO.>>

Not for Baptists. And the flames they're rescuing them from are Satan's
flames of hell.

That's the same crowd that fears Harry Potter and Hallowe'en, The Simpsons
and rock'n'roll.

<<As for

training my kids, I do not look at it that way. I see my kids strengths and

weaknesses, I see their joys and fears and I give them the tools they need
and

want at that moment. I show them God, I show them nature, I show them good

people who think clearly and are articulate and thoughtful. If they want to
go to

Harvard or to Theology school, if they become stay-at-home parents, doctors,

or burger-flippers then so be it. That is their decision, not mine. I want
them

to feel loved, and to grow up happy and content. They are kids, their souls

are fine and certainly not burning in flames. If they are at risk for
anything

it is being loved too much, and I do not believe that is possible. >>

None of that would make (as they say) "a lick o'sense" to a good Baptist.

"Clearly and articulately"? Unless "clearly" involves unquestioning belief
the the Bible is the inerrant word of God, it's false clarity provided by the
Devil. "Articulately" is something God either provides as a gift to be used
to save souls, or it's evil articulation from the devil.

They would say you're an unfit mother because you don't care about your
children's eternal souls.

I'm not exaggerating the beliefs of a TON of people. God-fearing people.

It's not enough to stop homeschooling about, but I've been saying for years
that all homeschoolers should know about it, because that's what that tar is we
keep being brushed with when we're not looking.

Sandra