Stepheny Cappel

Hi, anyone! I can't seem to connect to another unschooling email list... can anyone help? Steph


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In a message dated 7/21/03 8:51:31 PM, stephc62@... writes:

<< Hi, anyone! I can't seem to connect to another unschooling email list...
can anyone help? Steph >>

If you go to yahoogroups you can search for
unschooling-discussion

(that's the one Kelly was disparaging merrily; it's been crazed lately)

and someone posted these two names there:

Radical Unschooling list - 485 members
[email protected]


Unschooling - 1208 members (catching up with this list for sure)
[email protected]

Deborah Lewis

***If you go to yahoogroups you can search for
unschooling-discussion

(that's the one Kelly was disparaging merrily; it's been crazed
lately)***

That's because you're all verbally abusive and hateful and impatient and
nasty but I would never be critical of anyone.

Love,
Deb

Stepheny Cappel

Thanks Sandra, I was thinking about this today as I was wandering and thought "maybe they will make me do this myself" LOL Appreciate it. Steph
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From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Other discussion group



In a message dated 7/21/03 8:51:31 PM, stephc62@... writes:

<< Hi, anyone! I can't seem to connect to another unschooling email list...
can anyone help? Steph >>

If you go to yahoogroups you can search for
unschooling-discussion

(that's the one Kelly was disparaging merrily; it's been crazed lately)

and someone posted these two names there:

Radical Unschooling list - 485 members
[email protected]


Unschooling - 1208 members (catching up with this list for sure)
[email protected]

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-=-Thanks Sandra, I was thinking about this today as I was wandering and
thought "maybe they will make me do this myself" LOL Appreciate it. Steph-=-

Well after sharing the RUL list address here, someone sent me the following.
It's pretty horrible. This is from someone who wouldn't even say if she was
an unschooler or had kids.

It's bizarre, and questioning whether I wrote my own stuff is wildly off the
wall.

So join that other list at your own risk.



From: jeva <pinklantern@...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:12:42 PM US/Pacific
To: [email protected]
Subject: [RUL] Re: "radical unschooling" a la Sandra Dodds
Reply-To: [email protected]

Hello all,

Newbie here and former casualty of the infamous Sandra Dodd. Actually
not me personally so much, but I just witnessed the most nasty attack
(and many others having read this other list's archives) on another
list she is on. What led me to the other list initially was Ms. Dodds
articles. I was sadly suprised to see, no...I was shocked to see how
she responds to people who don't agree with her.

I'm not sure alligator hide is enough Lynda. She has quite an enemy
camp going for her. How very sad that is to see. I wonder if she
actually wrote those articles herself. I'm shocked. It simply doesn't
appear to be the same person in the articles that I see on this other
list, nor does it appear she practices what she so passionately
preaches. To the contrary. I've not seen such aggression on a list
before.

Oh well, I'll take a deep cleansing breath and be grateful to be on
this list.

Peace to all,
Jeva

Jon and Rue Kream

>>So join that other list at your own risk.

**I've been on RUL for years. It's generally a great list, but it is having
its issues lately. ~Rue


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Deborah Lewis

***It's bizarre, and questioning whether I wrote my own stuff is wildly
off the
wall.***

But it's all ok as long as she says "peace to all" and signs her posts
"love".

God, my head is sore from banging it on the screen so much.

Man, I'm sorry you have to deal with this kind of crap, Sandra.

Deb L, immature, violent and now contemplating poking my own eyes out...

Pam Hartley

Wow. She must lead a very sheltered life. <g>

Pam

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>From: SandraDodd@...
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Other discussion group
>Date: Tue, Jul 22, 2003, 7:31 PM
>

> I've not seen such aggression on a list
> before.

[email protected]

In a message dated 7/22/03 8:42:56 PM, ddzimlew@... writes:

<< Man, I'm sorry you have to deal with this kind of crap, Sandra. >>

The really sad thing is that I haven't finished my e-mail all week!!! I had
company (Brenda Leonard and her son Tim just left this afternoon) and am WAY
behind on www.unschooling.com and have still not yet gotten to the end of
e-mail, and have been running around until my leg hurt and I couldn't go anymore
every day, and having a great time. So most of the posts on the list were NOT
mine, most of the stuff was responded to before I ever got there, yet as it
begins to settle out, people are blaming me singularly as though I'd been the
only one there.

Then, it turns out, it seems, those new people who showed up were summoned or
came to hoot like monkeys just to make trouble, from another list where I'm
being discussed behind my back.

Talking about unschooling is good. Talking about bullshit to amuse
bullshitters is way less useful.

Sandra

Stepheny Cappel

Alright, I am all signed up for all those lists. Hope I learn something. Sandra, it is tough to be a leader, and certainly you cannot make everyone happy all the time, isn't that a song too... Can't please everyone, so you have to please yourself... I love to humm this to myself every so often... Again, thanks for the links. Steph
----- Original Message -----
From: SandraDodd@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Other discussion group


-=-Thanks Sandra, I was thinking about this today as I was wandering and
thought "maybe they will make me do this myself" LOL Appreciate it. Steph-=-

Well after sharing the RUL list address here, someone sent me the following.
It's pretty horrible. This is from someone who wouldn't even say if she was
an unschooler or had kids.

It's bizarre, and questioning whether I wrote my own stuff is wildly off the
wall.

So join that other list at your own risk.






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[email protected]

THAT's one of the reasons I left that list.

Lynda.

~Kelly

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In a message dated 7/22/03 11:40:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stephc62@... writes:

> ... Again, thanks for the links. Steph
>

Steph,

it is a hard time to be joining the other lists right now so please don't be
scared off. These unschooling list are generally on topic and very helpful to
many people. So just hang in there a week and let it all blow over, it will
be good, I promise.
Pam G.


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Stepheny Cappel

Pam, Thanks for the advice, but really its all about real people and I'm thankful. Some of the stuff may seem mean and silly, but at least people are saying whats really on their minds and not silly silly stuff they can't or won't do. I'm ok with it, actually its interesting to hear what people really think/feel/ believe that makes me realize I do or don't think/feel/ believe as they do OR maybe I do. I did like the lightbulbs analogy though. I have a terrible or maybe its good, sense of humor that keeps me going but I can get some strange looks... I'm sorry for Sandra, although I'm sure she doesn't need me to be... As for that, it is sometimes hard to write in email what you want to say without hurting some sensitive folks feelings when they are whining LOL, just the facts ma'am and thank you very much. Steph

P.S. But the facts can be boring............
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From: genant2@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Other discussion group


In a message dated 7/22/03 11:40:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stephc62@... writes:

> ... Again, thanks for the links. Steph
>

Steph,

it is a hard time to be joining the other lists right now so please don't be
scared off. These unschooling list are generally on topic and very helpful to
many people. So just hang in there a week and let it all blow over, it will
be good, I promise.
Pam G.


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Barb Eaton

Peace, love, and harmony and all that rot. Yuck! She's twisted. Sorry
you go through seeing and hearing so much crap Sandra. ;-(
You have helped so many people! My family have benifited greatly. What
ever happened with that Teen Certificate of Empowerment?


Barb E
"One of the most tragic things I know about human
nature is that all of us tend to put off living. We are
all dreaming of some magical rose garden over the horizon,
instead of enjoying the roses that are blooming outside
our windows today."

- Dale Carnegie, Author

on 7/22/03 11:02 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> Then, it turns out, it seems, those new people who showed up were summoned or
> came to hoot like monkeys just to make trouble, from another list where I'm
> being discussed behind my back.
>
> Talking about unschooling is good. Talking about bullshit to amuse
> bullshitters is way less useful.
>
> Sandra

[email protected]

In a message dated 7/23/03 8:39:13 AM, homemama@... writes:

<< You have helped so many people! My family have benifited greatly. What
ever happened with that Teen Certificate of Empowerment? >>

Bringing it to the conference.

Barb Eaton

Thanks so much! I asked as a gentle reminder. LOL!


Barb E
"The smartest thing that a person can do is to persistently think
the thoughts that are consistent with the kind of person he or she
would like to be."

- Brian Tracy, Author and Personal Development Expert


on 7/23/03 2:02 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 7/23/03 8:39:13 AM, homemama@... writes:
>
> << You have helped so many people! My family have benifited greatly. What
> ever happened with that Teen Certificate of Empowerment? >>
>
> Bringing it to the conference.

[email protected]

In a message dated 7/23/03 2:20:59 PM, homemama@... writes:

<< Thanks so much! I asked as a gentle reminder. LOL! >>

I thought of it really hard earlier this morning. Maybe you were thinking of
it and it zinged across the country to make me feel guilty! (It worked. <g>)

Sandra

Barb Eaton

Sandra,
Please not guilt! No No No! Waggin' my finger <EG>


Barb E

"If you don't like how things are, change it! You're not
a tree. You have the ability to totally transform every
area in your life - and it all begins with your very own
power of choice."

- Jim Rohn, Author and speaker




on 7/23/03 5:35 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 7/23/03 2:20:59 PM, homemama@... writes:
>
> << Thanks so much! I asked as a gentle reminder. LOL! >>
>
> I thought of it really hard earlier this morning. Maybe you were thinking of
> it and it zinged across the country to make me feel guilty! (It worked. <g>)
>
> Sandra

Tammy Thompson

That reminds me of the line Keith and I use sometimes when we feel bad about something we said or did. Its from Toy Story where the dinosaur says "Now I have guilt!" hehe. Puts a little humor on a feel bad situation here.
-Tammy
----- Original Message -----
From: Barb Eaton
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Other discussion group


Sandra,
Please not guilt! No No No! Waggin' my finger <EG>


Barb E

"If you don't like how things are, change it! You're not
a tree. You have the ability to totally transform every
area in your life - and it all begins with your very own
power of choice."

- Jim Rohn, Author and speaker




on 7/23/03 5:35 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 7/23/03 2:20:59 PM, homemama@... writes:
>
> << Thanks so much! I asked as a gentle reminder. LOL! >>
>
> I thought of it really hard earlier this morning. Maybe you were thinking of
> it and it zinged across the country to make me feel guilty! (It worked. <g>)
>
> Sandra



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Barb Eaton

I really really like someones "erase, erase, erase"


Barb E
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in
thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates
love."

- Lao-Tzu, Chinese Philosopher & Founder of Taoism


on 7/23/03 8:43 PM, Tammy Thompson at qpwithcheese@... wrote:

> That reminds me of the line Keith and I use sometimes when we feel bad about
> something we said or did. Its from Toy Story where the dinosaur says "Now I
> have guilt!" hehe. Puts a little humor on a feel bad situation here.
> -Tammy

Betsy

**That reminds me of the line Keith and I use sometimes when we feel bad
about something we said or did. Its from Toy Story where the dinosaur
says "Now I have guilt!" hehe. Puts a little humor on a feel bad
situation here.**

Oh, my favorite line from Toy Story is "now is the perfect time to panic."

Handy in so many occasions!

Betsy