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Hello,

I've been away from elists for awhile. Real life took me down many different adventures. Ashley finished 3rd grade at ps. She is now finished with going to school and planning the rest of her life. Things she found out were that she likes being given work to acomplish, likes striving for the best. Thinks her teacher was a really nice person. She is not fond of the playground dynamics. She wants more reading time. She made a few friends who she will keep in touch with. Ahhh. she came home.

Riley and Tessa continue growing and unfolding all the time. Riley's top perm. teeth are poking through. Tessa feels so grown up at 3.5 and continues to nurse to sleep each night. We have been camping at Lake Tahoe and Indian Grinding Rock as well as Monterey this year. We adopted 2 guinea pigs, are bug sitting too many stickbugs, and will snakesit for a friend who is off to England. Our homeschool support keeps shifting and changing. One thing I do notice is I spend way more time with kids than I do adults these days. Feeling a bit out of touch with friends, yet bonding deeply with the kids.

Two of my kids have big toe ouches. Bad ones. Makes me wonder about the put your shoes on rule that so many of the families I know have. My kids really have had the choice, unless going places were shoes are required. I want them to have shoes on more, yet don't force the issue. I always have their shoes with us. When out and about they all prefer to be barefooted. Riley also wiped out on his bike yesterday. Bandaids and ice. Loads of TV to pass the day while ouchy toes and skinned knees heal. Ashley is across the street at Girl Scout day camp for the week.

I will be attending the LLLI conference for a day or 2 as well as HOME=ED. Conference in Sacto.(I am coordinating the little kids playroom at HOME=ED and could always have more volunteers). Anyone else out there going to these functions?

Mary H. from Davis, Ca.

heather mclean

My 4 yo daughter, Sierra, doesn't wear shoes. I felt
much better after I came across this website
:)http://www.unshod.org/pfbc/

My mother was horrified watching her walk barefoot on
snow on one vacation! Sierra has also gotten cactus
stickers in her feet (we live in Tucson), but it
wasn't much of a deterrent.

When is this? - HOME=ED. Conference in Sacto.

I'd do a search, but I'm having to share our laptop at
the moment. There are some drawbacks to vacation
living :)

heather
temporarily in Seattle



--- maryfhickman@... wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been away from elists for awhile. Real life
> took me down many different adventures. Ashley
> finished 3rd grade at ps. She is now finished with
> going to school and planning the rest of her life.
> Things she found out were that she likes being given
> work to acomplish, likes striving for the best.
> Thinks her teacher was a really nice person. She is
> not fond of the playground dynamics. She wants more
> reading time. She made a few friends who she will
> keep in touch with. Ahhh. she came home.
>
> Riley and Tessa continue growing and unfolding all
> the time. Riley's top perm. teeth are poking
> through. Tessa feels so grown up at 3.5 and
> continues to nurse to sleep each night. We have been
> camping at Lake Tahoe and Indian Grinding Rock as
> well as Monterey this year. We adopted 2 guinea
> pigs, are bug sitting too many stickbugs, and will
> snakesit for a friend who is off to England. Our
> homeschool support keeps shifting and changing. One
> thing I do notice is I spend way more time with kids
> than I do adults these days. Feeling a bit out of
> touch with friends, yet bonding deeply with the
> kids.
>
> Two of my kids have big toe ouches. Bad ones. Makes
> me wonder about the put your shoes on rule that so
> many of the families I know have. My kids really
> have had the choice, unless going places were shoes
> are required. I want them to have shoes on more, yet
> don't force the issue. I always have their shoes
> with us. When out and about they all prefer to be
> barefooted. Riley also wiped out on his bike
> yesterday. Bandaids and ice. Loads of TV to pass the
> day while ouchy toes and skinned knees heal. Ashley
> is across the street at Girl Scout day camp for the
> week.
>
> I will be attending the LLLI conference for a day or
> 2 as well as HOME=ED. Conference in Sacto.(I am
> coordinating the little kids playroom at HOME=ED and
> could always have more volunteers). Anyone else out
> there going to these functions?
>
> Mary H. from Davis, Ca.
>


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----- Original Message -----
From: heather mclean
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:44 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] barefeet


My 4 yo daughter, Sierra, doesn't wear shoes. I felt
much better after I came across this website
:)http://www.unshod.org/pfbc/

My mother was horrified watching her walk barefoot on
snow on one vacation! Sierra has also gotten cactus
stickers in her feet (we live in Tucson), but it
wasn't much of a deterrent.

When is this? - HOME=ED. Conference in Sacto.

I'd do a search, but I'm having to share our laptop at
the moment. There are some drawbacks to vacation
living :)

heather
temporarily in Seattle



--- maryfhickman@... wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been away from elists for awhile. Real life
> took me down many different adventures. Ashley
> finished 3rd grade at ps. She is now finished with
> going to school and planning the rest of her life.
> Things she found out were that she likes being given
> work to acomplish, likes striving for the best.
> Thinks her teacher was a really nice person. She is
> not fond of the playground dynamics. She wants more
> reading time. She made a few friends who she will
> keep in touch with. Ahhh. she came home.
>
> Riley and Tessa continue growing and unfolding all
> the time. Riley's top perm. teeth are poking
> through. Tessa feels so grown up at 3.5 and
> continues to nurse to sleep each night. We have been
> camping at Lake Tahoe and Indian Grinding Rock as
> well as Monterey this year. We adopted 2 guinea
> pigs, are bug sitting too many stickbugs, and will
> snakesit for a friend who is off to England. Our
> homeschool support keeps shifting and changing. One
> thing I do notice is I spend way more time with kids
> than I do adults these days. Feeling a bit out of
> touch with friends, yet bonding deeply with the
> kids.
>
> Two of my kids have big toe ouches. Bad ones. Makes
> me wonder about the put your shoes on rule that so
> many of the families I know have. My kids really
> have had the choice, unless going places were shoes
> are required. I want them to have shoes on more, yet
> don't force the issue. I always have their shoes
> with us. When out and about they all prefer to be
> barefooted. Riley also wiped out on his bike
> yesterday. Bandaids and ice. Loads of TV to pass the
> day while ouchy toes and skinned knees heal. Ashley
> is across the street at Girl Scout day camp for the
> week.
>
> I will be attending the LLLI conference for a day or
> 2 as well as HOME=ED. Conference in Sacto.(I am
> coordinating the little kids playroom at HOME=ED and
> could always have more volunteers). Anyone else out
> there going to these functions?
>
> Mary H. from Davis, Ca.
>


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In a message dated 6/18/2003 7:18:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
maryfhickman@... writes:

> Makes me wonder about the put your shoes on rule that so many of the
> families I know have. My kids really have had the choice, unless going places were
> shoes are required. I want them to have shoes on more, yet don't force the
> issue. I always have their shoes with us. When out and about they all prefer to
> be barefooted. Riley also wiped out on his bike yesterday.

I have this thing with shoes, too. Will doesn't like to wear them, but he
will for certain reasons (baseball). He also has a medical condition called
Raynaud's phenomenon, which causes his fingers and toes to be hypersensitive to
heat and cold. It's painful and unpredictable. So I just don't make him wear
shoes--but I DO make him wear gloves in the winter! Strange, huh?

Anyway, his feet are like leather on the bottom. They're not tender at all.
He gets cuts on them sometimes and sometimes he doesn't even notice. He can
run like the wind in the front yard and on the gravel driveway. But if you
put him in baseball cleats and he gets a hit, it's like watching molasses run
the bases. (Good thing he can hit it far!) My dad grew up on a farm in that
"one pair of shoes a year" era. So in warm weather he went without. He sees
nothing at all wrong with no shoes on kids.

But lots of people have a problem with it. We went camping with our Camp
Fire council a few weeks ago and the new program director was going on and on at
the leader meeting about how she requires all CF kids to wear closed-toe shoes
at all times. While I was sitting there in my Birks, and Will was playing
baseball with the Boy Scout troop across the field, running the bases in his
soccer slides. I have a feeling this will be a point of contention with her at
day camp in two weeks!

Anyway, I think my point was that I suspect Will has developed some kind of
sixth-sense with regard to where his feet are at any given time. He hardly
ever does hurt his feet. He doesn't feel the sharpest rocks in the driveway, the
way I do. I think it's because he rarely wears shoes. Shoes are a modern
invention, you know?

Tuck


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Jamye Wilson

Anyway, his feet are like leather on the bottom. They're not tender at all.
He gets cuts on them sometimes and sometimes he doesn't even notice. He can
run like the wind in the front yard and on the gravel driveway.

>>I was just like this growing up. I spent the entire summer with my
>>grandparents in a small farming community. Shoes went off day one and
>>stayed off as much as possible till school strarted up again. My feet
>>were like leather too. I even stepped on broken glass once or twice (big
>>pieces) and didn't get cut because my feet were so tough. Although I did
>>often go around with all the skin scrapped off one or both big toes <g>

summer was my unschooling I guess.

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In a message dated 6/19/03 6:23:55 AM, Tuckervill@... writes:

<< While I was sitting there in my Birks, and Will was playing
baseball with the Boy Scout troop across the field, running the bases in his
soccer slides. I have a feeling this will be a point of contention with her
at
day camp in two weeks! >>

Maybe you can find canvas baseball shoes a little loose on him.
I had a pair of used Loony-Toons high tops that I LOVED and wore for years,
until there were holes in the cloth.

I could tighten them at the ankle and the other parts weren't pushing on me
anywhere.

Sandra

Dana Matt

I also have had Reynoud's, although it hasn't bothered
me in a few years...In college it was very bad, and I
was always most comfortable bare footed (well, I've
always been most comfortable that way...)--the floors
were heated, and it drove my feet crazy!!!! I can't
tell you how many "discussions" I had with various
bosses in the library (where I worked) who had cow
after cow that I couldn't wear shoes....People really
do have a problem with naked feet...

(No advice, just commiserating!)
Dana
--- Tuckervill@... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/18/2003 7:18:07 PM Central
> Daylight Time,
> maryfhickman@... writes:
>
> > Makes me wonder about the put your shoes on rule
> that so many of the
> > families I know have. My kids really have had the
> choice, unless going places were
> > shoes are required. I want them to have shoes on
> more, yet don't force the
> > issue. I always have their shoes with us. When out
> and about they all prefer to
> > be barefooted. Riley also wiped out on his bike
> yesterday.
>
> I have this thing with shoes, too. Will doesn't
> like to wear them, but he
> will for certain reasons (baseball). He also has a
> medical condition called
> Raynaud's phenomenon, which causes his fingers and
> toes to be hypersensitive to
> heat and cold. It's painful and unpredictable. So
> I just don't make him wear
> shoes--but I DO make him wear gloves in the winter!
> Strange, huh?
>
> Anyway, his feet are like leather on the bottom.
> They're not tender at all.
> He gets cuts on them sometimes and sometimes he
> doesn't even notice. He can
> run like the wind in the front yard and on the
> gravel driveway. But if you
> put him in baseball cleats and he gets a hit, it's
> like watching molasses run
> the bases. (Good thing he can hit it far!) My dad
> grew up on a farm in that
> "one pair of shoes a year" era. So in warm weather
> he went without. He sees
> nothing at all wrong with no shoes on kids.
>
> But lots of people have a problem with it. We went
> camping with our Camp
> Fire council a few weeks ago and the new program
> director was going on and on at
> the leader meeting about how she requires all CF
> kids to wear closed-toe shoes
> at all times. While I was sitting there in my
> Birks, and Will was playing
> baseball with the Boy Scout troop across the field,
> running the bases in his
> soccer slides. I have a feeling this will be a
> point of contention with her at
> day camp in two weeks!
>
> Anyway, I think my point was that I suspect Will has
> developed some kind of
> sixth-sense with regard to where his feet are at any
> given time. He hardly
> ever does hurt his feet. He doesn't feel the
> sharpest rocks in the driveway, the
> way I do. I think it's because he rarely wears
> shoes. Shoes are a modern
> invention, you know?
>
> Tuck
>
>
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**When is this? - HOME=ED. Conference in Sacto.**

Hi, Heather --

It's in mid-August. You can find all the info at

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In a message dated 6/19/03 12:23:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hoffmanwilson@... writes:

> ....People really
> do have a problem with naked feet...
>
>

I so agree. Jackson wears shoes all the time, with the exception of bed and
shower. He was raised on a farm so I can see where that might be important.
He just doesn't understand why I love our silk Persian and Turkish rugs.
Sooooo soft and cool on the feet. Gotta love it. And Why I love to walk in the
grass barefoot (guess that really comes from the farm LOL).
Pam G.


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In a message dated 6/19/2003 9:09:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Maybe you can find canvas baseball shoes a little loose on him.
>

You know what I thought might work? Running shoes...those really thin shoes
that marathon runners wear. I haven't been to look, because I always forget
about them when it's time for baseball. But I think the good running he does
when barefoot is based on his whole foot being able to feel the ground, and
those running shoes might give him that kind of feeling.

Anyone familiar with running shoes?

Tuck


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Dana, regarding the Raynaud's....does it seem to be worse if you're under
stress? My niece also has it, and she claims it's stress related for her, and
that she also has heart palpitations when she has an episode.

I've never known anyone else except these two with this condition!

Tuck


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Sylvia Toyama

We've always been barefoot people around here. All our shoes live at the front door, or in the car. Gary grew up all over -- his Dad was in the AirForce -- but his folks are from Hawaii, where most everyone goes barefoot. The only shoes anyone wears are flip-flops.

We lived in outside a very small town in Oklahoma until I was about 12, and were barefoot 24/7 from March 1 to late October. I remember taking a note to school each March that gave us permission to be barefoot at school. All the school required was parent's permission, and we didn't need shoes again until Nov! It was a rural, poor area and most of us only owned one pair of shoes each summer -- nice ones to wear 'into town, otherwise no one really bothered with shoes.

As kids, we used to see who could stand the longest on the asphalt blisters that come up on the road as the days warm up. I always won, because even then the skin on my feet was like elephant-hide!

And of course, Andy almost never wears his sneakers, preferring flip-flops (we call them slippers, Hawaii fashion). Sneakers are only to keep socks clean so he can wear them in playland at McDonalds. He takes off the socks as soon as he sees some other kid barefoot. Then again, Andy seldom dresses for any kind of cold/wet weather either. I have photos of him on the playground, running around in shorts, t-shirt and flip-flops in a cold, mid-December rain two years ago! Every other kid in the picture is dressed like Nanook of the North, and Andy looks like Island Boy!

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Tia Leschke

>
> You know what I thought might work? Running shoes...those really thin
shoes
> that marathon runners wear. I haven't been to look, because I always
forget
> about them when it's time for baseball. But I think the good running he
does
> when barefoot is based on his whole foot being able to feel the ground,
and
> those running shoes might give him that kind of feeling.

Cleats may be a safety requirement though. You need them at least at the
higher levels of baseball because of all the pivot turns you need to make
when your team is on the field. I don't think they're as necessary for
running bases, but if the infield is grass he'll have problems with
slipping.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

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In a message dated 6/19/2003 12:55:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
leschke@... writes:

> Cleats may be a safety requirement though. You need them at least at the
> higher levels of baseball because of all the pivot turns you need to make
> when your team is on the field. I don't think they're as necessary for
> running bases, but if the infield is grass he'll have problems with
> slipping.
>

Yeah, at 9 they're not required. But don't some track shoes have tiny cleats
on them?

Tuck


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hey
you know that is so true my son would have awful break downs ast year he will
be 5 in july.
but we would take him to the local high school tack in the summer with no
shoes on and he would walk across the grass and run on the trck with no shoes on.
we got down to check it and see if it was hot and it was not. he would calm
down and be better alot less stimmi. it really healps he does it all the time.
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Got a question.....we just been watching a prog about sextuplets and it said they were all on the 'honour roll' at school. Rhodri wanted to know what an 'honour roll' was. I haven't the faintest idea. Well behaved kids? Kids who have done 'honourable things'?

Anyone know?



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Jon and Rue Kream

You get on the honor role for having good grades. ~Rue


>>Got a question.....we just been watching a prog about sextuplets and it
said they were all on the 'honour roll' at school. Rhodri wanted to know
what an 'honour roll' was. I haven't the faintest idea. Well behaved kids?
Kids who have done 'honourable things'?

Anyone know?

Shyrley

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In a message dated 6/19/03 7:26:46 PM, bobalinga@... writes:

<< Rhodri wanted to know what an 'honour roll' was. I haven't the faintest
idea. Well behaved kids? Kids who have done 'honourable things'?
>>

Holly just asked me the same question today, and I said "I'll tell you
later," because it would have totally sidetracked a busy conversation, and now she's
off at an overnight party.

Highest grades. Usually those over 3.5. Some towns publish it in the
newsletter. Some schools put the names up in a trophy case (temporarily, not like
engraved). Some places and times, kids might get special privileges for a
little while.

When Marty went to the Junior Police Academy, one of the requirements was to
be an honors student. I wrote and said we had no GPA, no report cards, but
that he had never failed to do what we asked him to do and that it was hard not
to be the best in your class when you're the only one. <g>

They let him in.

I still need to tell this list about that. <g>

It's JUST a high grades thing.

Sandra, former Honor Roll Queen (wishing some of the kids who REALLY wanted
and would have benefited from making honor roll just once could magically and
retroactively trade her)

BADOLBILZ

I was on an honour roll in high school...it was just the top x amount of
kids with the highest grades. Heidi

Bling Williams wrote:

>Got a question.....we just been watching a prog about sextuplets and it said they were all on the 'honour roll' at school. Rhodri wanted to know what an 'honour roll' was. I haven't the faintest idea. Well behaved kids? Kids who have done 'honourable things'?
>
>Anyone know?
>
>
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In a message dated 6/19/03 7:09:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Sandra, former Honor Roll Queen (wishing some of the kids who REALLY wanted
>
> and would have benefited from making honor roll just once could magically
> and
> retroactively trade her)
>

Now that wish alone is truly Honorable.

Rhonda


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Tia Leschke

>
> Yeah, at 9 they're not required. But don't some track shoes have tiny
cleats
> on them?

That I don't know. Sorry.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

Dana Matt

It could be stress related....I have had it worse also
when drinking a lot of coffee, which also leads to
heart palpitations....although I don't think the
medicos call them "related". Mine was much worse in
highschool and college, and has really been better in
the past years.
Dana
--- Tuckervill@... wrote:
> Dana, regarding the Raynaud's....does it seem to be
> worse if you're under
> stress? My niece also has it, and she claims it's
> stress related for her, and
> that she also has heart palpitations when she has an
> episode.
>
> I've never known anyone else except these two with
> this condition!
>
> Tuck
>
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