Leaving children alone
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In a message dated 4/30/03 5:03:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Or maybe she just likes sex. There's no harm in that, either...... >>
No, but there are scads of good, solid reasons why it isn't healthy to have
multiple partners in a short period of time.
Especially at a young age before a person is mature enough to handle the
possible consequences of sexual relations.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected] writes:
<< Or maybe she just likes sex. There's no harm in that, either...... >>
No, but there are scads of good, solid reasons why it isn't healthy to have
multiple partners in a short period of time.
Especially at a young age before a person is mature enough to handle the
possible consequences of sexual relations.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
Dana
And you think *4* partners for this girl is a lot?
Hmmmm...I think sex is natural and wonderful, and I would never encourage my
children not to do it....
Condoms are easy to use, but mutual masturbation is even better.
I would certainly not advocate holding off on sex just because I wasn't
ready to have a child....hell, I wouldn't have had sex until well into my
first year of marriage. lol...I guess that's the point of abstinence until
marriage, eh? I never thought of that before....
Snort.....None of that here!!
Dana
Hmmmm...I think sex is natural and wonderful, and I would never encourage my
children not to do it....
Condoms are easy to use, but mutual masturbation is even better.
I would certainly not advocate holding off on sex just because I wasn't
ready to have a child....hell, I wouldn't have had sex until well into my
first year of marriage. lol...I guess that's the point of abstinence until
marriage, eh? I never thought of that before....
Snort.....None of that here!!
Dana
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Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Leaving children alone
> In a message dated 4/30/03 5:03:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
> << Or maybe she just likes sex. There's no harm in that, either...... >>
>
> No, but there are scads of good, solid reasons why it isn't healthy to
have
> multiple partners in a short period of time.
> Especially at a young age before a person is mature enough to handle the
> possible consequences of sexual relations.
>
> Ren
> "They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
> spoon;
> And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
> moon."
> --The Owl and the Pussycat
> Edward Lear
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Kerrin or Ralph Taylor
If you mean possible pregnancy or stds, they are pretty effectively avoided with condoms. Or do you mean the emotional consequences? These can be the result of societal hang ups about sex, and I don't think age makes much difference. The myths around sex are just as challengeable as those surrounding education.
Kerrin.
<< Or maybe she just likes sex. There's no harm in that, either...... >>
No, but there are scads of good, solid reasons why it isn't healthy to have
multiple partners in a short period of time.
Especially at a young age before a person is mature enough to handle the
possible consequences of sexual relations.
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Kerrin.
<< Or maybe she just likes sex. There's no harm in that, either...... >>
No, but there are scads of good, solid reasons why it isn't healthy to have
multiple partners in a short period of time.
Especially at a young age before a person is mature enough to handle the
possible consequences of sexual relations.
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nellebelle
What a great topic to explore. Just as I don't want to think about my parents having sex, I don't want to think about my kids doing it either!
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- The myths around sex are just as challengeable as those surrounding education.
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Mary Ellen
----- snip----- The myths around sex are just as challengeable as those surrounding education.
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[email protected]
In a message dated 5/1/03 11:57:31 AM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<<
Hmmmm...I think sex is natural and wonderful, and I would never encourage my
children not to do it.... >>
Never?
Not even if you saw potential dangers with a certain person? Like a girl
that was trying to get away from an abusive home situation?
There's a healthy balance between honoring a healthy sexual appetite and
being wise and prudent where your health is concerned.
It's good to be aware of AIDS and people that you don't want to be in a
sexual relation with. That doesn't equal "wait until you're married" or
making sex out to be anything less than natural.
I wasn't advocating that!
But I will certainly help my children be aware of potential dangers in
addition to the wonderful, great parts of sex too. Sex is not only pleasure,
it is incredibly powerful because of the ability to create a new life and
form deep bonds.
It's can be profound and sacred, and it can be casual and quick too.
But being aware of health dangers and the kind of people you may want to
avoid, is giving them important information imo.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected] writes:
<<
Hmmmm...I think sex is natural and wonderful, and I would never encourage my
children not to do it.... >>
Never?
Not even if you saw potential dangers with a certain person? Like a girl
that was trying to get away from an abusive home situation?
There's a healthy balance between honoring a healthy sexual appetite and
being wise and prudent where your health is concerned.
It's good to be aware of AIDS and people that you don't want to be in a
sexual relation with. That doesn't equal "wait until you're married" or
making sex out to be anything less than natural.
I wasn't advocating that!
But I will certainly help my children be aware of potential dangers in
addition to the wonderful, great parts of sex too. Sex is not only pleasure,
it is incredibly powerful because of the ability to create a new life and
form deep bonds.
It's can be profound and sacred, and it can be casual and quick too.
But being aware of health dangers and the kind of people you may want to
avoid, is giving them important information imo.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
Fetteroll
on 5/1/03 3:06 PM, Kerrin or Ralph Taylor at kerrin@... wrote:
(cervical cancer???) later in life.
Don't know how well the studies have stood up or how well I'm dredging that
up.
Joyce
> If you mean possible pregnancy or stds, they are pretty effectively avoidedI think there were studies tying early and frequent partners to diseases
> with condoms.
(cervical cancer???) later in life.
Don't know how well the studies have stood up or how well I'm dredging that
up.
Joyce
Betsy
**I think there were studies tying early and frequent partners to diseases
(cervical cancer???) later in life.**
I have to say it -- I think that is corelation, not necessarily causation.
Betsy
(cervical cancer???) later in life.**
I have to say it -- I think that is corelation, not necessarily causation.
Betsy
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/1/03 6:17:09 PM, ecsamhill@... writes:
<< **I think there were studies tying early and frequent partners to diseases
(cervical cancer???) later in life.**
I have to say it -- I think that is corelation, not necessarily causation.
penises.
Their "proof" before? Eastern European Jewish women didn't tend to get
cervical cancer. So they chopped millions of little boys and cited that as
justification.
Sandra
<< **I think there were studies tying early and frequent partners to diseases
(cervical cancer???) later in life.**
I have to say it -- I think that is corelation, not necessarily causation.
>>They've only lately gotten off blaming cervical cancer on uncircumcised
penises.
Their "proof" before? Eastern European Jewish women didn't tend to get
cervical cancer. So they chopped millions of little boys and cited that as
justification.
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/1/03 11:25:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< I think there were studies tying early and frequent partners to diseases
(cervical cancer???) later in life. >>
I've read about some of these studies and some have held up very well.
The idea that our bodies get used to certain bacteria and learn how to deal
with it is fairly common knowledge.
Babies are more immune to the type of bacteria that are in their own homes
and more susceptable in others.
Sexual partners carry their own bacteria. Our bodies are going to have a
difficult time adjusting to, and being immune to bacteria if you have a new
sex partner often.
Being with the same partner gives your body a chance to get used to that
persons particular bacteria, thereby preventing a lot of potential health
risks.
On top of that, there is always a risk that the person would lie to you, or
carry something they don't know about.
Sure, condoms prevent a lot. But to act like they're foolproof is ridiculous.
I wouldn't be here if that was the case. And young people all too often get
caught up in hormones and don't use a condom. Having lots of information on
all sides is the best way for someone to make the best decision for
themselves at any given moment.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected] writes:
<< I think there were studies tying early and frequent partners to diseases
(cervical cancer???) later in life. >>
I've read about some of these studies and some have held up very well.
The idea that our bodies get used to certain bacteria and learn how to deal
with it is fairly common knowledge.
Babies are more immune to the type of bacteria that are in their own homes
and more susceptable in others.
Sexual partners carry their own bacteria. Our bodies are going to have a
difficult time adjusting to, and being immune to bacteria if you have a new
sex partner often.
Being with the same partner gives your body a chance to get used to that
persons particular bacteria, thereby preventing a lot of potential health
risks.
On top of that, there is always a risk that the person would lie to you, or
carry something they don't know about.
Sure, condoms prevent a lot. But to act like they're foolproof is ridiculous.
I wouldn't be here if that was the case. And young people all too often get
caught up in hormones and don't use a condom. Having lots of information on
all sides is the best way for someone to make the best decision for
themselves at any given moment.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected]
Here's a little snippet from one site out of MANY that cite research
discussing the link between multiple sex partners and health problems.
There is even a recent study that pointed to increased prostate cancer in men
that have multiple sex partners, although that one is less conclusive.
There was a lot of information linking many different problems, not just
cervical cancer, to the multiple sex partners and also a link to early sex
(before age 18). I don't know how they separate the two though, need to read
more.
Risk Factors of Cervical Cancer
Researchers have identified certain risk factors that increase the chance
that cells in the cervix will become abnormal or cancerous. They believe
that, in many cases, cervical cancer develops when two or more risk factors
act together.
Research has shown that women who began having sexual intercourse before age
18 and women who have had many sexual partners have an increased risk of
developing cervical cancer. Women also are at increased risk if their
partners began having sexual intercourse at a young age, have had many sexual
partners, or were previously married to women who had cervical cancer (high
risk ?).
Research suggests that some sexually transmitted viruses (Human Papilloma
Virus) can cause cells in the cervix to begin the series of changes that can
lead to cancer. Women who have had many sexual partners or whose partners
have had many sexual partners may have an increased risk for cervical cancer
at least in part because they are more likely to be exposed to the HPV.
Smoking also increases the risk of cancer of the cervix. The risk appears to
increase with the number of cigarettes a woman smokes each day and with the
number of years she has smoked.
Several reports suggest that women whose immune systems are weakened are more
likely than others to develop cervical cancer. For example, women who have
the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), which causes AIDS, are at increased
risk. Also, organ transplant patients, who receive drugs that suppress the
immune system to prevent rejection of the new organ, are more likely than
others to develop precancerous lesions.
Some researchers believe that there is an increased risk of cervical cancer
in women who use oral contraceptives (the pill). However, scientists have not
found that the pill directly causes cancer of the cervix. This relationship
is hard to prove because the two main risk factors for cervical
cancer--intercourse at an early age and multiple sex partners--may be more
common among women who use the pill than among those who do not. Still, oral
contraceptive labels warn of this possible risk and advise women who use them
to have yearly Pap tests.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
discussing the link between multiple sex partners and health problems.
There is even a recent study that pointed to increased prostate cancer in men
that have multiple sex partners, although that one is less conclusive.
There was a lot of information linking many different problems, not just
cervical cancer, to the multiple sex partners and also a link to early sex
(before age 18). I don't know how they separate the two though, need to read
more.
Risk Factors of Cervical Cancer
Researchers have identified certain risk factors that increase the chance
that cells in the cervix will become abnormal or cancerous. They believe
that, in many cases, cervical cancer develops when two or more risk factors
act together.
Research has shown that women who began having sexual intercourse before age
18 and women who have had many sexual partners have an increased risk of
developing cervical cancer. Women also are at increased risk if their
partners began having sexual intercourse at a young age, have had many sexual
partners, or were previously married to women who had cervical cancer (high
risk ?).
Research suggests that some sexually transmitted viruses (Human Papilloma
Virus) can cause cells in the cervix to begin the series of changes that can
lead to cancer. Women who have had many sexual partners or whose partners
have had many sexual partners may have an increased risk for cervical cancer
at least in part because they are more likely to be exposed to the HPV.
Smoking also increases the risk of cancer of the cervix. The risk appears to
increase with the number of cigarettes a woman smokes each day and with the
number of years she has smoked.
Several reports suggest that women whose immune systems are weakened are more
likely than others to develop cervical cancer. For example, women who have
the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), which causes AIDS, are at increased
risk. Also, organ transplant patients, who receive drugs that suppress the
immune system to prevent rejection of the new organ, are more likely than
others to develop precancerous lesions.
Some researchers believe that there is an increased risk of cervical cancer
in women who use oral contraceptives (the pill). However, scientists have not
found that the pill directly causes cancer of the cervix. This relationship
is hard to prove because the two main risk factors for cervical
cancer--intercourse at an early age and multiple sex partners--may be more
common among women who use the pill than among those who do not. Still, oral
contraceptive labels warn of this possible risk and advise women who use them
to have yearly Pap tests.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/2/2003 12:07:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
causes of cervical cancer?
Tuck
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starsuncloud@... writes:
> <<I think there were studies tying early and frequent partners to diseasesAren't they talking about human papilloma *virus*? Isn't HPV one of the main
> (cervical cancer???) later in life. >>
>
> I've read about some of these studies and some have held up very well.
> The idea that our bodies get used to certain bacteria and learn how to deal
>
> with it is fairly common knowledge.
> Babies are more immune to the type of bacteria that are in their own homes
> and more susceptable in others.
> Sexual partners carry their own bacteria. Our bodies are going to have a
> difficult time adjusting to, and being immune to bacteria if you have a new
>
> sex partner often.
>
causes of cervical cancer?
Tuck
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Tia Leschke
> Research has shown that women who began having sexual intercourse beforeage
> 18It hasn't really been all that long in the scheme of things since almost
*all* women were having sexual intercourse before age 18. Most women
through the ages married soon after puberty, didn't they?
Tia
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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