BADOLBILZ

All my worry for naught! Today my girls my girls said, "can we have a
snack?" I said, "sure, whatever you want?" "What is there?" "Well,
there's suckers in the snack can." "Can we have more than one?" "Yeah,
yeah, whatever you want."

They dumped them in a bowl and dug in. Candy, candy candy! I casually
mentioned that if they wanted me to cook anything to let me know. "Yea!
I want chicken tenders." "I want chicken tenders and a hard boiled
egg!" "I want scrambled eggs!" And they ate it all.

And the sun is shining, too! Heidi Case

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In a message dated 4/10/03 1:01:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ynxn96@... writes:

> They dumped them in a bowl and dug in. Candy, candy candy! I casually
> mentioned that if they wanted me to cook anything to let me know. "Yea!
> I want chicken tenders." "I want chicken tenders and a hard boiled
> egg!" "I want scrambled eggs!" And they ate it all.
>
>

Exactly. My boys are munching on carrots right now. When given free choice
they won't always choose what I might consider junk.
Pam G.


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In a message dated 4/10/03 11:01:45 AM, ynxn96@... writes:

<< All my worry for naught! Today my girls my girls said, "can we have a
snack?" I said, "sure, whatever you want?" "What is there?" "Well,
there's suckers in the snack can." >>

Cool about the sun shining, but I'm kinda shocked that when they asked for a
snack you suggested suckers.

Maybe "snack," like "dessert," is too loaded a concept, and when they say
"snack" they should be offered food, as though they had just asked for
something to eat.

It's being picky, maybe, but I've never offered my kids suckers in their
lives. Nor have I said "no suckers."

I think it's worth continuing to write and tweak these ideas until whoever's
reading and not posting gets it. <g>

Sandra

BADOLBILZ

Well, Sandra, I can keep tweaking away I guess, but I'm pretty sure with
you, I'll never get it "right." I'm making changes for the better. When
everything that comes out of my mouth is perfect, I hope you'll let me
know. For the time being, I'm only human. Have a good day, anyway.
Heidi Case

SandraDodd@... wrote:

>In a message dated 4/10/03 11:01:45 AM, ynxn96@... writes:
>
><< All my worry for naught! Today my girls my girls said, "can we have a
>snack?" I said, "sure, whatever you want?" "What is there?" "Well,
>there's suckers in the snack can." >>
>
>Cool about the sun shining, but I'm kinda shocked that when they asked for a
>snack you suggested suckers.
>
>Maybe "snack," like "dessert," is too loaded a concept, and when they say
>"snack" they should be offered food, as though they had just asked for
>something to eat.
>
>It's being picky, maybe, but I've never offered my kids suckers in their
>lives. Nor have I said "no suckers."
>
>I think it's worth continuing to write and tweak these ideas until whoever's
>reading and not posting gets it. <g>
>
>Sandra
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> Well, Sandra, I can keep tweaking away I guess, but I'm pretty sure with
> you, I'll never get it "right." I'm making changes for the better. When
> everything that comes out of my mouth is perfect, I hope you'll let me
> know. For the time being, I'm only human. Have a good day, anyway.

It really needs to be in the introduction. DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY! When
someone on this list is picky about words, it's for a very good reason. The
words we use shape our thinking. There are a lot of people reading this
list who never post. It's important for them that we keep on tweaking our
words.
Tia

> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

Pamela Sorooshian

I'd not have thought of suckers if someone asked for a snack, either.

Isn't that worth pointing out?

Sometimes people think that when our kids have NO food restrictions
that we have no influence over what they eat. Or that we even encourage
junky eating. It is like they can't imagine anything in between feeding
junk and feeding healthy.

So - when somebody says their kids asked for a snack and they offered
suckers, it kind of feeds into (excuse the expression <G>) that extreme
idea that not restricting food means encouraging junky eating. We don't
really do that.

In fact, if I think a kid is hungry - they've told me or I notice by
their behavior - and there is a sucker sitting nearby, I wouldn't
suggest it. If they picked it up and started eating it, I would
probably say, "Do you want something else to eat?" I MIGHt even point
out that eating that sucker probably won't work to fill their need to
eat. No restrictions doesn't mean "no parenting."

It is nice that you discovered, Heidi, that when they asked for a snack
because they were hungry, that they actually DID want good food even
with suckers available. Cool. None of what I said above was intended to
detract from that cool thing!!!

-pam


On Thursday, April 10, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Tia Leschke wrote:

>
>
>
>> Well, Sandra, I can keep tweaking away I guess, but I'm pretty sure
>> with
>> you, I'll never get it "right." I'm making changes for the better.
>> When
>> everything that comes out of my mouth is perfect, I hope you'll let me
>> know. For the time being, I'm only human. Have a good day, anyway.
>
> It really needs to be in the introduction. DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY!
> When
> someone on this list is picky about words, it's for a very good
> reason. The
> words we use shape our thinking. There are a lot of people reading
> this
> list who never post. It's important for them that we keep on tweaking
> our
> words.
> Tia
>
>> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
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Pamela Sorooshian wrote:

>I'd not have thought of suckers if someone asked for a snack, either.
>
>Isn't that worth pointing out?
>

It seems to me like everybody's right here. Where families haven't
controlled foods before, the kids *knows* the suckers are there--he
doesn't *have* to be told. And they may not be the best food for right
now anyway. But in a family where food's been controlled, the kids DON'T
know that the suckers are there and available, so the mom's providing
new information. But she didn't drop it there--she also provided more
substantial food and allowed them to expand their reportoir of things
that make great snacks *even* when suckers are available.

:-) Diane

BADOLBILZ

Thank you Diane. That is what I was trying to do. I don't want to come
out and say, "girls, from now on you can eat all the junk food you
want." They place such a high value on the "junk." Besides they are too
young to explain my change of attitude and actions to. I'm just trying
to let them see that these things will no longer be an issue here. They
told me I was the coolest mom they'd ever seen.

And I did take offense from Sandra's post. I don't deal when with
criticism when it's not veiled in niceties. It's one of the things I'm
working on to improve myself, thicker skin. I admit it and I will try
not to let things get to me in the future. I don't want to stop posting
and asking for advice. I need this support group so much. There is
nobody in my immediate "world" right now who I can discuss these changes
I'm making. Well, nobody who would support me anyway. So I will
repeat..."be zen, do zen, like water off a duck's back, like water off a
duck who is being and doing zen, be the duck, be the water..." Heidi

Bill and Diane wrote:

>Pamela Sorooshian wrote:
>
>
>
>>I'd not have thought of suckers if someone asked for a snack, either.
>>
>>Isn't that worth pointing out?
>>
>>
>>
>
>It seems to me like everybody's right here. Where families haven't
>controlled foods before, the kids *knows* the suckers are there--he
>doesn't *have* to be told. And they may not be the best food for right
>now anyway. But in a family where food's been controlled, the kids DON'T
>know that the suckers are there and available, so the mom's providing
>new information. But she didn't drop it there--she also provided more
>substantial food and allowed them to expand their reportoir of things
>that make great snacks *even* when suckers are available.
>
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In a message dated 4/11/2003 10:29:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> They
> told me I was the coolest mom they'd ever seen.


That's always cool! <G>

> I need this support group so much. There is
> nobody in my immediate "world" right now who I can discuss these changes
> I'm making. Well, nobody who would support me anyway. So I will
> repeat..."be zen, do zen, like water off a duck's back, like water off a
> duck who is being and doing zen, be the duck, be the water..." Heidi

You REALLY might want to comsider one of the two conferences---one on the
west coast and one on the east. They leave you SO assured and confident. You
can see REAL unschooling moms and dads and kids in action. And MOST of them
are regular posters (and lurkers) here.

~Kelly


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Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

>and asking for advice. I need this support group so much. There is
>nobody in my immediate "world" right now who I can discuss these changes
>(snipped) Heidi


New-Heidi,
I'd like to quietly make a comment that, well, I'm not sure that this group
is a 'support group' so much as it is a place for a bunch of committed and
comfortable-in-their-decision unschooling parents to talk. You've joined
unschoolingdotcom, right? There are lot of newbies on that site and you
might learn more and faster from the questions they're asking as well.

Secondly, now that there are two Heidi's on this list, could we both use
last name initials? I was amused to find 'me' posting when I hadn't
remembered doing so! (grin)

HeidiWD


"I prefer a person who will burn the flag and wrap themselves in the
constitution to a person who will burn the constitution and wrap themselves
in the flag" --- Molly Ivins

Pamela Sorooshian

On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 07:42 AM, BADOLBILZ wrote:

> And I did take offense from Sandra's post.

Don't take offense - it is ALWAYS intended to be useful, NEVER intended
to just slap you down.

> I don't deal when with
> criticism when it's not veiled in niceties. It's one of the things I'm
> working on to improve myself, thicker skin. I admit it and I will try
> not to let things get to me in the future.

I'm glad you're hanging in here!

> I don't want to stop posting
> and asking for advice. I need this support group so much. There is
> nobody in my immediate "world" right now who I can discuss these
> changes
> I'm making. Well, nobody who would support me anyway. So I will
> repeat..."be zen, do zen, like water off a duck's back, like water off
> a
> duck who is being and doing zen, be the duck, be the water..."

And - sometime you'll suddenly realize that you APPRECIATE directness
and might even get a bit impatient with trying to get advice or
information from people who try to "soften" it too much - so that it is
diluted. I feel that way at times, nowadays - find myself wanting to
say, "JUST say it - I can take it." Now, if something somebody says
make me get that slightly crumply feeling and my little inner voice
says, "THAT was mean. Ouch. I didn't deserve that," then I also get a
little thrill that I might be just about to learn something important,
because if something somebody says arouses an emotional defensive
feeling in me, it almost ALWAYS means they touched something I need to
look at more. It can be kind of scary. That's where I agree with people
who say that posting on the unschooling list can be scary - because I
agree that sometimes I might find myself thinking and re-examining
things in my life that are going to cause some upheaval in my family.
Sometimes I feel for my long-suffering husband - who goes along very
lovingly with all of the changes - some quite radical - that I've
brought into our lives. They are especially radical for him - he comes
from an agricultural background - small town in Iran - very
conservative and traditional.

-pam

Pamela Sorooshian

CONFERENCES really really did a lot for me. I went to a number of them
in my first couple of years of unschooling and I look back and realize
they were really invaluable for catching the unschooling spirit - after
that I was not trying to implement stuff I'd only heard or read about -
but I had really inhaled it - hanging with other unschooling parents
and their kids made it very "real" - not a pie in the sky ideal that
was hard to grasp. WONDERFUL experience.

-pam


On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 08:23 AM, kbcdlovejo@... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/11/2003 10:29:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> ynxn96@... writes:
>
>
>> They
>> told me I was the coolest mom they'd ever seen.
>
>
> That's always cool! <G>
>
>> I need this support group so much. There is
>> nobody in my immediate "world" right now who I can discuss these
>> changes
>> I'm making. Well, nobody who would support me anyway. So I will
>> repeat..."be zen, do zen, like water off a duck's back, like water
>> off a
>> duck who is being and doing zen, be the duck, be the water..." Heidi
>
> You REALLY might want to comsider one of the two conferences---one on
> the
> west coast and one on the east. They leave you SO assured and
> confident. You
> can see REAL unschooling moms and dads and kids in action. And MOST of
> them
> are regular posters (and lurkers) here.
>
> ~Kelly
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In a message dated 4/11/03 8:28:57 AM, ynxn96@... writes:

<< And I did take offense from Sandra's post. I don't deal when with
criticism when it's not veiled in niceties. >>

I wasn't being critical, I was making the point that calling things snacks or
junk is part of the problem, and won't become part of the solution. I
wasn't trying point and say "YOU." And in fact, I said "I" more in what I
wrote than not.

We've been talking about this food thing for years. Treat everything as
food. Not "dessert" or "snack" or "breakfast food" but food.

<<I don't want to come
out and say, "girls, from now on you can eat all the junk food you
want." They place such a high value on the "junk." >>

Right.

The change comes in the mom, to not say no so much, to loosen up and not
freak out.

On another list someone's asking how to avoid spanking a kid who has a
tantrum because the mom won't buy him something at the store. I'm not going
to volunteer any answers. There are lots of others who will. But when I
say I buy my kids all the candy they want, I'm telling the truth. And
probably some parents are picturing half a cart of candy, $65. But WEEKS go
by where nobody wants any candy whatsoever. Maybe once every couple of
months I get cookies. It takes a few days for them to go. Last time, a
week. More often I make cookies, and they go at a slow and dignified pace,
not like when I was a kid and people at my house ate everything they could
shovel in because if they didn't someone else would. Unless there were six
or twelve. Then the math was obvious. A dozen donuts, six people, each got
two. ONLY two. Non-transferable donuts. At our house if a dozen donuts
come in nobody counts, and two usually petrify in the box. Nobody knows who
did or didn't eat three, or one, or none. And nobody cares. Because IF they
want more, we'll buy more. And obviously they're not desperate for more, as
the last mummified donuts will attest.

So "All the donuts you want" when I worked at Dunkin Donuts became "one,
MAYBE" by the third day. After a week, it was none.

And "All the donuts you want" is about the same way at my house now. Donuts
come in here three or four times a YEAR.

But if we got donuts once a week and counted them and made kids eat spinach
to get them, they would be eating two donuts a week and dreaming of the next
donut eating opportunity.

<<I don't deal when with
criticism when it's not veiled in niceties. >>

I would say I don't veil criticism in niceties, but more to the point, I
don't see discussion of terms as criticism.

Sandra

BADOLBILZ

I have signed on at unschooling.com and I'm sure I can remember so sign
HeidiC. HeidiC

Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema wrote:

>>and asking for advice. I need this support group so much. There is
>>nobody in my immediate "world" right now who I can discuss these changes
>>(snipped) Heidi
>>
>>
>
>
>New-Heidi,
>I'd like to quietly make a comment that, well, I'm not sure that this group
>is a 'support group' so much as it is a place for a bunch of committed and
>comfortable-in-their-decision unschooling parents to talk. You've joined
>unschoolingdotcom, right? There are lot of newbies on that site and you
>might learn more and faster from the questions they're asking as well.
>
>Secondly, now that there are two Heidi's on this list, could we both use
>last name initials? I was amused to find 'me' posting when I hadn't
>remembered doing so! (grin)
>
>HeidiWD
>
>
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>in the flag" --- Molly Ivins
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BADOLBILZ

That's exactly what I'm trying to do, touch upon the sore spots and fix
them. It isn't easy. HeidiC.

Pamela Sorooshian wrote:

>On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 07:42 AM, BADOLBILZ wrote:
>
>
>
>>And I did take offense from Sandra's post.
>>
>>
>
>Don't take offense - it is ALWAYS intended to be useful, NEVER intended
>to just slap you down.
>
>
>
>> I don't deal when with
>>criticism when it's not veiled in niceties. It's one of the things I'm
>>working on to improve myself, thicker skin. I admit it and I will try
>>not to let things get to me in the future.
>>
>>
>
>I'm glad you're hanging in here!
>
>
>
>>I don't want to stop posting
>>and asking for advice. I need this support group so much. There is
>>nobody in my immediate "world" right now who I can discuss these
>>changes
>>I'm making. Well, nobody who would support me anyway. So I will
>>repeat..."be zen, do zen, like water off a duck's back, like water off
>>a
>>duck who is being and doing zen, be the duck, be the water..."
>>
>>
>
>And - sometime you'll suddenly realize that you APPRECIATE directness
>and might even get a bit impatient with trying to get advice or
>information from people who try to "soften" it too much - so that it is
>diluted. I feel that way at times, nowadays - find myself wanting to
>say, "JUST say it - I can take it." Now, if something somebody says
>make me get that slightly crumply feeling and my little inner voice
>says, "THAT was mean. Ouch. I didn't deserve that," then I also get a
>little thrill that I might be just about to learn something important,
>because if something somebody says arouses an emotional defensive
>feeling in me, it almost ALWAYS means they touched something I need to
>look at more. It can be kind of scary. That's where I agree with people
>who say that posting on the unschooling list can be scary - because I
>agree that sometimes I might find myself thinking and re-examining
>things in my life that are going to cause some upheaval in my family.
>Sometimes I feel for my long-suffering husband - who goes along very
>lovingly with all of the changes - some quite radical - that I've
>brought into our lives. They are especially radical for him - he comes
>from an agricultural background - small town in Iran - very
>conservative and traditional.
>
>-pam
>
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BADOLBILZ

SandraDodd@... wrote:

>I would say I don't veil criticism in niceties, but more to the point, I
>don't see discussion of terms as criticism.
>
>

Sandra, I grew up on a house of criticism, sometimes veiled, usually
not, and of conditional love. Lots of guilt trips, too. Long, long
trips with the silent treatment thrown in. I have long conversations
with my sister about how we will NOT do this to our children. We talk
and we read and we stop each other whenever one of us slips up. After
many years, you just expect discussions to be about blame and criticism
and you often hear it when it's not even there. Thanks for all your
advice and help. It really is appreciated. HeidiC.

>
>
>
>
>

Kelly Dollinger

>>From: SandraDodd@... [mailto:SandraDodd@...]
>>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:17 AM
>>
>>I think it's worth continuing to write and tweak these ideas until
>>whoever's
>>reading and not posting gets it. <g>
>>
>>Sandra

Yes, please! I'm guilty of reading and not posting; most of the time I
speed through the posts and take whatever catches my eye. This is So
valuable to me! I am fairly new to unschooling and don't know any other
unschoolers so I really look forward to learning new ways of
thinking/looking/experiencing everyday occurrences. It's a wonderful
adventure to me! I actually belong to unschooling.com, too, but I really
don't read lately. I feel like this list is much more Calm and Peaceful
and it seems(to me)that unschooling.com gets bogged down a lot with
"drama" (for lack of a better word)! I believe someone on here referred
to it as "unschooling.comedy". LOL

Kelly Dollinger

>>From: kbcdlovejo@... [mailto:kbcdlovejo@...]
>>Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 8:23 AM
>>
>>You REALLY might want to comsider one of the two conferences---one on
the
>>west coast and one on the east. They leave you SO assured and
confident.
>>You
>>can see REAL unschooling moms and dads and kids in action. And MOST of
>>them
>>are regular posters (and lurkers) here.
>>
>>~Kelly

Which conference are you referring to on the West coast? I am in Calif.
And would love to attend!

Kelly D.

Pamela Sorooshian

HomeSchool Association of California (HSC) conference in Sacramento.

<http://conference.hsc.org/default.html>


On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 04:54 PM, Kelly Dollinger wrote:

> Which conference are you referring to on the West coast? I am in Calif.
> And would love to attend!




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In a message dated 4/11/2003 8:02:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kdollinger@... writes:


> Which conference are you referring to on the West coast? I am in Calif.
> And would love to attend!
>
> Kelly D.


There are two new Kellys here---Kelly L and Kelly D. As Kelly Dunlap Lovejoy
(the old one!)---I've been known as both! <G>

The CA conf is the HSC in Sacramento. Pam Sorooshian is speaking there as
well as at my conference in SC (they're a week apart!). The CA conf is NOT an
Unschooling Conference, but there are enough unschoolers there that you could
"find your niche". The SC is a purely unschooling conference.

~Kelly, the old



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Tia Leschke

> <<I don't deal when with
> criticism when it's not veiled in niceties. >>
>
> I would say I don't veil criticism in niceties, but more to the point, I
> don't see discussion of terms as criticism.

I didn't see it as criticism. I saw it as helping someone take her thinking
about "unfooding" to the next level.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

BADOLBILZ

Can you tell me more about the SC conference...when, where, how much,
details. I would very much like to come. Maybe bring a family member
or two who needs convincing. Thanks, HeidiC.

kbcdlovejo@... wrote:

>In a message dated 4/11/2003 8:02:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>kdollinger@... writes:
>
>
>
>
>>Which conference are you referring to on the West coast? I am in Calif.
>>And would love to attend!
>>
>>Kelly D.
>>
>>
>
>
>There are two new Kellys here---Kelly L and Kelly D. As Kelly Dunlap Lovejoy
>(the old one!)---I've been known as both! <G>
>
>The CA conf is the HSC in Sacramento. Pam Sorooshian is speaking there as
>well as at my conference in SC (they're a week apart!). The CA conf is NOT an
>Unschooling Conference, but there are enough unschoolers there that you could
>"find your niche". The SC is a purely unschooling conference.
>
>~Kelly, the old
>
>
>
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Kelly Dollinger

>>From: kbcdlovejo@... [mailto:kbcdlovejo@...]


>>There are two new Kellys here---Kelly L and Kelly D. As Kelly Dunlap
>>Lovejoy
>>(the old one!)---I've been known as both! <G>
>>
>>The CA conf is the HSC in Sacramento. Pam Sorooshian is speaking there
as
>>well as at my conference in SC (they're a week apart!). The CA conf is
NOT
>>an
>>Unschooling Conference, but there are enough unschoolers there that
you
>>could
>>"find your niche". The SC is a purely unschooling conference.
>>
>>~Kelly, the old

Thanks, I thought you might mean that one. I would love to go to the SC
conference, but the HSC conference might be more realistic at this
point. I was on that (HSC) list last year at that (conference) time and
read many great reports about it.

Kelly D

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In a message dated 4/11/03 11:35:04 PM, leschke@... writes:

<< "unfooding" >>

Oooh!

I just thought of something to call it.
("It" being this idea of letting kids eat what they want to or not have to
eat.)

"The Full Plate Club"


It has connotations. Interesting ones!!

Sandra

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In a message dated 4/11/2003 8:02:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:

> Pam Sorooshian is speaking there as
> well as at my conference in SC (they're a week apart!).

I didn't know that. I'm so happy!

Tuck


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In a message dated 4/12/03 5:36:11 AM Central Daylight Time,
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<< "The Full Plate Club"


It has connotations. Interesting ones!! >>

Yes! It sounds like a movie title actually. :)

Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett