amanda gorman

I've been reading this list for the last month and
have enjoyed reading about the day to day life of
unschoolers that are older. My son is 3 and i am
planning on keeping him home. Unschooling is very
appealing to me. My son loves to look at books and
go to the library. He's retelling stories and loves
to talk about letters. I was wondering if you would
share with me how old your kids were when they started
reading and what it looked like. As a former school
teacher (Spanish k-12) I know my biggest challenge
will be to just chill out and follow their lead.
thanks,

Amanda

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3 kids - all were immersed in print-rich environment, read to a lot,
played a lot of pretend games, played rhyming games, went to theater,
watched movies and tv, listened to books and stories on tape,sang a LOT
of songs, etc. None had any formal instruction at any time prior to
beginning to read.

- #1 began reading fluently at 4 1/2.
- #2 began reading fluently at 3 1/2.
- #3 began reading fluently at 8 1/2.

-pam

Tia Leschke

> I've been reading this list for the last month and
> have enjoyed reading about the day to day life of
> unschoolers that are older. My son is 3 and i am
> planning on keeping him home. Unschooling is very
> appealing to me. My son loves to look at books and
> go to the library. He's retelling stories and loves
> to talk about letters. I was wondering if you would
> share with me how old your kids were when they started
> reading and what it looked like. As a former school
> teacher (Spanish k-12) I know my biggest challenge
> will be to just chill out and follow their lead.
> thanks,

My son learned at age 12, and possibly only then because I stupidly pushed
him. He still doesn't like to read. But he knows and does lots, is a nice
person, and will have no trouble supporting himself when the time comes
(based on his work history so far - he's 15). Doing it over, I wouldn't
expect him to read until he was 20. That way he could have surprised me.
<g>
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

Bill and Diane

My kids are young and very interested in reading. My 5 year old reads
the headlines in his train magazines, and occasional pages in his
chapter books, and the three year old picks out words. They are both
simply very interested in books and words. We really haven't used any
technique with them except making words accessible and spending every
free minute reading ourselves.

I cringed when the 3 yo picked out a toy and spelled it out for me and
my friends grabbed her kindergartener and SHAMED him with "SHE's THREE
and SHE knows all those letters DO YOU?! YOU really need to..." I said
please don't do that--she's just interested in words and letter and
she's not, that's all. And then she sat down with the game looking and
pointing to letters and I could hear her quietly sounding out
"Candy...land....candy....land" while the poor little guy went back to
his equally important playing.

Not that that story relates to the question or the questioner, just that
it bothered me.

:-) Diane

amanda gorman wrote:

>I've been reading this list for the last month and
>have enjoyed reading about the day to day life of
>unschoolers that are older. My son is 3 and i am
>planning on keeping him home. Unschooling is very
>appealing to me. My son loves to look at books and
>go to the library. He's retelling stories and loves
>to talk about letters. I was wondering if you would
>share with me how old your kids were when they started
>reading and what it looked like. As a former school
>teacher (Spanish k-12) I know my biggest challenge
>will be to just chill out and follow their lead.
>thanks,
>
>Amanda
>

[email protected]

In a message dated 4/2/03 12:38:40 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< I was wondering if you would
share with me how old your kids were when they started
reading and what it looked like. As a former school
teacher (Spanish k-12) I know my biggest challenge
will be to just chill out and follow their lead.
thanks, >>

I have a dd that has taught herself to read at age five, and a ds that is
just starting to sound words out at 9.5.
My oldest ds, Trevor, learned to read at sixish, under duress. Not the best
way to go.

Jared (9.5 y.o) is very excited this week because he's figuring out words
from Phantasy Star Online. It's coming easier to him than ever before. His
eyes were all lit up and he said, "when you tried to show me it was boring
Mom, but I figured out I can do something I like (playing video games) AND
learn how to read."
Cool. Just wait and have fun together. Reading comes when it's meant to.

Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett

Barb Eaton

Ren,
Thanks you, Thanks you! Ds will be 9 in June. I get nervious sometimes.
Most of the stories so far haven't been later readers besides Lars. :-)
I know this may sound strange but hey, I am. LOL! When did Jared get his
front teeth in? I have heard of a theory...Ds still has quite a way before
both top front teeth will be in. ;-)

Barb E
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in
thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates
love."

- Lao-Tzu, Chinese Philosopher & Founder of Taoism




on 4/2/03 5:12 PM, starsuncloud@... at starsuncloud@... wrote:
>
> Jared (9.5 y.o) is very excited this week because he's figuring out words
> from Phantasy Star Online. It's coming easier to him than ever before. His
> eyes were all lit up and he said, "when you tried to show me it was boring
> Mom, but I figured out I can do something I like (playing video games) AND
> learn how to read."
> Cool. Just wait and have fun together. Reading comes when it's meant to.
>
> Ren


Barb Eaton

Thanks Sandra!

Barb E
"One of the most tragic things I know about human
nature is that all of us tend to put off living. We are
all dreaming of some magical rose garden over the horizon,
instead of enjoying the roses that are blooming outside
our windows today."

- Dale Carnegie, Author




on 4/3/03 7:42 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/3/03 5:17:41 PM, homemama@... writes:
>
> << Thanks you, Thanks you! Ds will be 9 in June. I get nervious sometimes.
> Most of the stories so far haven't been later readers besides Lars. :-) >>
>
> Other stories are collected here:
>
> http://sandradodd.com/reading
>
> <A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/reading">Later Readers</A>

Shyrley

kbcdlovejo@... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/3/2003 10:24:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> marji@... writes:
>
> > I'm not sure which theory you've heard, but I have also heard that there
> > may be a correlation between the time that a kid gets his/her adult teeth
> > in and their "developmental" readiness for certain things. My son Liam
> > seems to have borne this out to a certain degree. He's pushing 8-½, and
> > only just now has started to express an interest in more earthly things,
> > like learning to read. He has lost his bottom two front teeth and those
> > adult teeth have come in, but he has no other loose teeth.
> >
> > Isn't it amazing and lovely to see our young folks being their own person,
> > doing things in their own time and for their own reasons? To me, it's one
> > of the greatest gifts about being a mom, and I'm grateful for just being a
> > witness to and protector of that process for that little guy I love so
> > much.
>
> We're trying to figure out where Duncan fit in here: he, at seven, just
> recently lost his two TOP front teeth. He hasn't lost the bottom two yet! We
> figure he'll be reading War & Peace---and THEN read One Fish, Two Fish, Red
> Fish, Blue Fish! <G>
>
> ~Kelly
>

Hehehehe. Same happened with Rhodri only he had his first four teeth knocked out by a kid
with a golf club last year when he turned 7. None of them were loose. But then, he was
already reading.
In a way, its a pity he was already reading cos it would have been interesting to see if
having his teeth knocked out led too reading......sort of an experiment ;-)

Shyrley


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marji

At 19:15 4/3/03 -0500, Barb Eaton wrote:
>...I have heard of a theory...Ds still has quite a way before both top
>front teeth will be in. ;-)

Hey Barb!

I'm not sure which theory you've heard, but I have also heard that there
may be a correlation between the time that a kid gets his/her adult teeth
in and their "developmental" readiness for certain things. My son Liam
seems to have borne this out to a certain degree. He's pushing 8-½, and
only just now has started to express an interest in more earthly things,
like learning to read. He has lost his bottom two front teeth and those
adult teeth have come in, but he has no other loose teeth.

Isn't it amazing and lovely to see our young folks being their own person,
doing things in their own time and for their own reasons? To me, it's one
of the greatest gifts about being a mom, and I'm grateful for just being a
witness to and protector of that process for that little guy I love so much.

See you!

Marji

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[email protected]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 10:24:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
marji@... writes:


> I'm not sure which theory you've heard, but I have also heard that there
> may be a correlation between the time that a kid gets his/her adult teeth
> in and their "developmental" readiness for certain things. My son Liam
> seems to have borne this out to a certain degree. He's pushing 8-½, and
> only just now has started to express an interest in more earthly things,
> like learning to read. He has lost his bottom two front teeth and those
> adult teeth have come in, but he has no other loose teeth.
>
> Isn't it amazing and lovely to see our young folks being their own person,
> doing things in their own time and for their own reasons? To me, it's one
> of the greatest gifts about being a mom, and I'm grateful for just being a
> witness to and protector of that process for that little guy I love so
> much.

We're trying to figure out where Duncan fit in here: he, at seven, just
recently lost his two TOP front teeth. He hasn't lost the bottom two yet! We
figure he'll be reading War & Peace---and THEN read One Fish, Two Fish, Red
Fish, Blue Fish! <G>

~Kelly


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Kate Green

I've also read there is a whole line of connection from when infants get
teeth to getting adult teeth and then to when they reach puberty. So for a
baby who gets teeth early, they'll also lose teeth early and hit puberty
earlier. So it sounds reasonable that these things are also connected to
other aspects of development.

Not sure if it's playing out here though. My second son got his first tooth
at 3 months and lost teeth early but has been slower than his older brother
about puberty.

Kate -- who was gum "bitten" by a possibly teething baby last night:(


At 07:23 PM 4/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
> At 19:15 4/3/03 -0500, Barb Eaton wrote:
>>...I have heard of a theory...Ds still has quite a way before both top
>>front teeth will be in. ;-)
>
> Hey Barb!
>
> I'm not sure which theory you've heard, but I have also heard that there
> may be a correlation between the time that a kid gets his/her adult teeth
>"" My son Liam
> He's pushing 8-½, and
> only just now has started to express an interest in more earthly things,
> like learning to read. He has lost his bottom two front teeth and those
> adult teeth have come in, but he has no other loose teeth.
>
> Isn't it amazing and lovely to see our young folks being their own person,
> To me, it's one
> of the greatest gifts about being a mom, and I'm grateful for just being a
> witness to and protector of that process for that little guy I love so much.
>
> See you!
>
> Marji
>
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Kate Green wrote:

> I've also read there is a whole line of connection from when infants get
> teeth to getting adult teeth and then to when they reach puberty. So for a
> baby who gets teeth early, they'll also lose teeth early and hit puberty
> earlier. So it sounds reasonable that these things are also connected to
> other aspects of development.

Lexie got teeth early (3 months), lost teeth fairly early, read early,
although she didn't really read fluently until we got a new type of
glasses and the "letters didn't dance" on the page. I would hate for
her to start puberty early. :-(

>
>
> Not sure if it's playing out here though. My second son got his first
> tooth
> at 3 months and lost teeth early but has been slower than his older
> brother
> about puberty.
>
> Kate -- who was gum "bitten" by a possibly teething baby last night:(

How old is the baby? Should I put on my LLL Leader hat and tell you
about the things you can do? Or do you know all that already?

Joylyn

>
>
> At 07:23 PM 4/3/03 -0800, you wrote:
> > At 19:15 4/3/03 -0500, Barb Eaton wrote:
> >>...I have heard of a theory...Ds still has quite a way before both top
> >>front teeth will be in. ;-)
> >
> > Hey Barb!
> >
> > I'm not sure which theory you've heard, but I have also heard that
> there
> > may be a correlation between the time that a kid gets his/her adult
> teeth
> >"" My son Liam
> > He's pushing 8-½, and
> > only just now has started to express an interest in more earthly
> things,
> > like learning to read. He has lost his bottom two front teeth and those
> > adult teeth have come in, but he has no other loose teeth.
> >
> > Isn't it amazing and lovely to see our young folks being their own
> person,
> > To me, it's one
> > of the greatest gifts about being a mom, and I'm grateful for just
> being a
> > witness to and protector of that process for that little guy I love
> so much.
> >
> > See you!
> >
> > Marji
> >
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[email protected]

On Fri, 04 Apr 2003 10:28:28 +0400 Kate Green <karegree@...>
writes:
> I've also read there is a whole line of connection from when infants
get
> teeth to getting adult teeth and then to when they reach puberty. So
for a
> baby who gets teeth early, they'll also lose teeth early and hit
puberty
> earlier. So it sounds reasonable that these things are also
> connected to other aspects of development.

It's certainly been true for Rain. She got her first two teeth in a day
or two after she turned 4 months, lost her first tooth at 3, almost 4,
and started getting breast development at 7... she turned 10 in January
and is over 5 feet tall... no periods yet, but we're prepared.

And I always feel compelled to mention that she was totally vegetarian
from 6 to 8, hasn't ever eaten much meat, drinks non-bgh milk and all
that... she's just destined to be this way, I think.

And I never know when to say she started reading fluently - she did have
a year of kindergarten that screwed her up in many ways, and reading was
one. At 5 1/2 she read a lot of things, at 6 1/2 she read nothing, and at
7 1/2 she read everything.

At 10 1/6 she reads very little, however. But she sings a lot :)

Dar

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[email protected]

In a message dated 4/3/2003 6:19:28 PM Central Standard Time,
homemama@... writes:

> When did Jared get his
> front teeth in? I have heard of a theory...Ds still has quite a way before
> both top front teeth will be in. ;-)
>

I thought that was about eye teeth, and Rudolph Steiner. My son is really
late losing his baby teeth, but he learned to read at 7.

Tuck


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BADOLBILZ

Kate Green wrote:

>Kate -- who was gum "bitten" by a possibly teething baby last night:(
>
>
>
>
Hey Kate. I've been getting gum "bitten" every day. It's so funny that
even though I've been through this three times before, I still get
squealy just knowing it's coming. Heidi Case

Kate Green

> Should I
>put on my LLL Leader hat and tell you
> Or do you
>know all that
>already?
>
> Joylyn
>
Think I'm OK (BTDT plenty of times:) but I'm always open to more ideas.

He just kept munching down and chewing with a vengence and it surprised me
as I hadn't expected it quite so early yet. He was funny though as after my
initial yell and removal of his grip, when he resumed nursing he kept
staring at me and then "biting" while keeping eye contact and then
grinning. I had to work hard not to smile at him as he certainly is turning
out to be quite a little character!

Kate

Kate Green

>>
> "" It's so funny that
> even though I've been through this three times before, I still get
> Heidi Case
>
>
I find I'm a little jumpy as son number 3 bit a little chunk of my nipple
off in the middle of the night (he was about 2.5 years old so had a
mouthful of teeth). It sure makes you more nervous of what can happen when
everyone is almost asleep!

Kate

Barb Eaton

Marji,
Nothing official or anything. Someone was talking about it on one of the
lists I'm on quite a while ago. Ds has both bottom front teeth in but not
the top. One finally broke through this week. He'd been toothless for a
year. At this rate maybe by the end of this summer he'll be able to eat corn
on the cob without cutting it off. ;-)
It is great being able to watch it all unfold. :-) It's my insecurities.
I'm the one that gets embarrassed when he tells people he can't read. :-(
Doesn't seem to bother him much. He's secure in himself about this. :-)


Barb E
"The function of the child is to live his own life - not the life that his
anxious parents think he should live."
A S Neill




on 4/3/03 10:23 PM, marji at marji@... wrote:
>
> Isn't it amazing and lovely to see our young folks being their own person,
> doing things in their own time and for their own reasons? To me, it's one
> of the greatest gifts about being a mom, and I'm grateful for just being a
> witness to and protector of that process for that little guy I love so much.
>
> See you!
>
> Marji

Barb Eaton

It's almost all gaming reading here. Ds8 now has PS2 StarFox and I've
been reading that to him. All his YuGiOh cards have been read to him too.
They're also at a point where they don't want me to read to them at night
anymore. I'm sad. Other times of the day just doesn't work with everything
that keeps them busy. I'm hoping it will cycle through and they'll let me
read stories to them again soon. <G>

Barb E
"We live in a wonderful world that is full of beauty,
charm and adventure. There is no end to the adventures
that we can have if only we seek them with our eyes open."

- Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India




on 4/3/03 11:51 PM, kbcdlovejo@... at kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
> We're trying to figure out where Duncan fit in here: he, at seven, just
> recently lost his two TOP front teeth. He hasn't lost the bottom two yet! We
> figure he'll be reading War & Peace---and THEN read One Fish, Two Fish, Red
> Fish, Blue Fish! <G>
>
> ~Kelly

Barb Eaton

I remember being toothless/ older. We had a picture of me grinning. LOL!
I was also a later reader. I remember in 4th grade reading a bunch. I've
also always been a slow reader. My dh reads fast and he has taken a speed
reading course too. At least now I can read aload to the kids better than in
the past. I was always embarrassed reading aload in school. _That_ didn't
help at all. I'm so happy my boys don't have to go through what I did.

Barb E
"Just as our eyes need light in order to see, our minds
need ideas in order to conceive. "

- Napoleon Hill, Author




on 4/4/03 1:28 AM, Kate Green at karegree@... wrote:

> I've also read there is a whole line of connection from when infants get
> teeth to getting adult teeth and then to when they reach puberty. So for a
> baby who gets teeth early, they'll also lose teeth early and hit puberty
> earlier. So it sounds reasonable that these things are also connected to
> other aspects of development.
> Kate -- who was gum "bitten" by a possibly teething baby last night:(

Kelly Dollinger

>>>From: marji [mailto:marji@...]
>>>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:23 PM

>>>Isn't it amazing and lovely to see our young folks being their own
>>>person,
>>>doing things in their own time and for their own reasons? To me,
it's
>>>one
>>>of the greatest gifts about being a mom, and I'm grateful for just
being
>>>a
>>>witness to and protector of that process for that little guy I love
so
>>>much.

A wonderful thought, I am so grateful to be where I am right now
observing the unfolding and blossoming of these two delightful people.
It has truly been an awesome journey so far! :-)

Kelly D.

[email protected]

What I had heard was if the eye teeth (bicuspids? canines?) aren't in that
the child might read late.

Maybe (just maybe) it's an ancient "chill-out" code of mothers who want to
remind people not to rush babies to do adult things before they even have
their TEETH in.

Sandra

Nancy Wooton

on 4/4/03 8:55 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> What I had heard was if the eye teeth (bicuspids? canines?) aren't in that
> the child might read late.
>
My son turned 13 last week, and just last week lost his last upper bicuspid;
the adult tooth had broken the skin and was coming in above it (and yes, the
orthodontist has been working on him for some time <g>). He read at four.

Nancy

Dana

> It's certainly been true for Rain. She got her first two teeth in a day
> or two after she turned 4 months, lost her first tooth at 3, almost 4,
> and started getting breast development at 7... she turned 10 in January
> and is over 5 feet tall... no periods yet, but we're prepared.
>
> And I always feel compelled to mention that she was totally vegetarian
> from 6 to 8, hasn't ever eaten much meat, drinks non-bgh milk and all
> that... she's just destined to be this way, I think.
>
> And I never know when to say she started reading fluently - she did have
> a year of kindergarten that screwed her up in many ways, and reading was
> one. At 5 1/2 she read a lot of things, at 6 1/2 she read nothing, and at
> 7 1/2 she read everything.
>
> At 10 1/6 she reads very little, however. But she sings a lot :)
>
> Dar

Your Rain sounds just like my Lauren. She's just 10, but we wear the same
clothes and her feet are bigger than mine! :) And she was raised with no
dairy and little/no meat, as well. It amazes me, as I was not her size
until....well, I continued to grow until I was well into my 20's! I am
waiting to see how tall she gets! No period yet here, either, but we expect
it soon. She already has bigger breasts than some of my friends, which she
never lets them forget, lol! ;)
Dana

BADOLBILZ

Kate! I don't think I wanted to know that. In the back of my mind,
with every child, I've thought, "well I've never heard of anyone getting
their nipple bitten OFF, so I'll be okay." Now I can't reassure myself.
Were you okay? You must be if your still nursing. Yikes! I can just
imagine the pain! Oh Kate...oh no...

Heidi Case

Kate Green wrote:

>>"" It's so funny that
>>even though I've been through this three times before, I still get
>> Heidi Case
>>
>>
>>
>>
>I find I'm a little jumpy as son number 3 bit a little chunk of my nipple
>off in the middle of the night (he was about 2.5 years old so had a
>mouthful of teeth). It sure makes you more nervous of what can happen when
>everyone is almost asleep!
>
>Kate
>
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Joylyn

Janene used to bite down when she was a toddler and going into that deep
sleep stage. I had to stay awake enough to take the nipple out of her
mouth before she hit that sleep stage.

joylyn

Kate Green wrote:

> >>
> > "" It's so funny that
> > even though I've been through this three times before, I still get
> > Heidi Case
> >
> >
> I find I'm a little jumpy as son number 3 bit a little chunk of my nipple
> off in the middle of the night (he was about 2.5 years old so had a
> mouthful of teeth). It sure makes you more nervous of what can happen when
> everyone is almost asleep!
>
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Joylyn

I think the only thing I caution is that each child is different With
Lexie, when she bit, I yelled and put her down for 2-3 seconds and then
picked her up again. She realized that she didn't want me to put her
down and stopped. I also said "no teeth" which she used as a toddler to
remind herself not to use her teeth when nursing.

With Janene the first time she gummed (but with a tooth coming through)
I yelled and put her down and she didn't nurse for 13 days. She was
young, no solids yet, a low weight baby who was a premie and who didn't
have any other source of nutrition so not nursing for almost 2 weeks was
not good. She wouldn't take a bottle, or take milk in a spoon, syringe,
or any other container. During that time I was able to nurse her if she
was asleep but it was a constant battle. It was even worse that I knew
I had caused this nursing strike by my yell and I felt that she was
afraid to hurt me again. She's a very sensitive child. Finally (and I
know this sounds strange) I had a long talk with her, told her I forgave
her for biting me, and that it was very important that she nurse again
and that it was OK if she bit me again and that we would just learn how
not to bite together. She latched right on and never had another bit of
trouble (not nursing) although she did bit me a few more times. But
with her I would just gently say " no teeth, please." and as a toddler
she too would, when going to latch on, say right before "no teeth" to
remind herself. I've known other moms with very high need and sensitive
babies who the automatic yell caused more problems then they fixed,
often with a nursing strike.

I should say that both girls bit so hard the first time that I have a
scar, one on each nipple, one for each child. But both of them went on
to nurse much longer than is average for our society--well anything
longer than six weeks is longer in this society,but they were well past
toddlerhood.

Joylyn

Kate Green wrote:

> > Should I
> >put on my LLL Leader hat and tell you
> > Or do you
> >know all that
> >already?
> >
> > Joylyn
> >
> Think I'm OK (BTDT plenty of times:) but I'm always open to more ideas.
>
> He just kept munching down and chewing with a vengence and it surprised me
> as I hadn't expected it quite so early yet. He was funny though as
> after my
> initial yell and removal of his grip, when he resumed nursing he kept
> staring at me and then "biting" while keeping eye contact and then
> grinning. I had to work hard not to smile at him as he certainly is
> turning
> out to be quite a little character!
>
> Kate
>
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Barb Eaton

In that case it's gonna be a long time. Ds has only lost one so far.
LOL! It's fun to speculate. I really like the chill-out code. :-)

Barb E
"Kindness in words creates confidence. Kindness in
thinking creates profoundness. Kindness in giving creates
love."

- Lao-Tzu, Chinese Philosopher & Founder of Taoism




on 4/4/03 11:55 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> What I had heard was if the eye teeth (bicuspids? canines?) aren't in that
> the child might read late.
>
> Maybe (just maybe) it's an ancient "chill-out" code of mothers who want to
> remind people not to rush babies to do adult things before they even have
> their TEETH in.
>
> Sandra

Bill and Diane

My dad wouldn't have read until he was in his 50's, when he had his baby
canines extracted and got a bridge. My grandmother, and much of her
family same thing!

:-) Diane

>What I had heard was if the eye teeth (bicuspids? canines?) aren't in that
>the child might read late.
>