Penny Holder

>
> Pretty nice site, but not big on unschooling.
> Lots of Christian sites and lots of structure.
>

I just added unschooling to my site about a week ago since I am moving more
to unschooling than homeschooling. I am also going to add more links today.

> (Just wanted to keep everyone here from needing to go look, since there
are
> lots of pop-up pages too.)
>

The only pop ups should be the two tripod does and the one for newsletters.
Since I can't afford to buy Front Page right now I have to deal with the pop
ups. I have lots of information for everyone whether they homeschool,
unschool, etc. I have freebies, sites for moms, dieting, work at home, etc.

Penny
http://learnathome.tripod.com

Penny Holder

> Yeah, if I see it's a tripod site, I usually don't click on it unless I
> think I can't get the info anywhere else.
> Pop-ups are annoying as all get out.
> Someday, I'll invest in some pop-up-killing software, but until then,
> forget it!
> Heidi
>
I am sorry you feel that way. Almost EVERY site on the net has some type of
pop ups. At least mine are just from tripod and 50 don't pop up at once
like many sites. I have a wealth of information that helps many people.
Yes, you could find it all elsewhere but it would take you a long time to
find it all. My site compiles it all in one place. I have spent many days,
weeks, and months working on my site. I keep it updated and I am always
adding new things.

Maybe one of these days I can afford Front Page and can get my own domain
name. Until then it will remain at tripod. Many people must enjoy the
information since I have had over 12,000 visitors in a little over a year.

Penny
http://learnathome.tripod.com

PS: Who is wondering if she should unsub from this group? Since no one
feels my site is useful and I have evidentally have nothing to offer.

Penny Holder

>
> In the context in which you originally mentioned the site, I just
objected
> to the fact that it's not primarily an unschooling site. You have a link
to
> www.unschooling.com, but everyone here knows that site. I have a site
with
> lots of unschooling links, and I think people here know about that one.

Like I stated I just started adding unschooling links to my site. I have
several different unschooling links and links to unschooling articles. I
look at it from the aspect of people who are new to unschooling or want to
find more info. Just like I did when I started researching it. I realize
that many of you that have been unschooling for years might not have a need
for the links I have listed. Is everyone on this list experienced? No
newbies like me????

>
> Were you here just to offer us access to your site?

Of course I am not here just to offer you access to my site. I have never
mentioned my site before today. I am here to learning about unschooling,
but most everything I have learned I have found on the net myself.
Therefore I share the info and links on my site for others who might not
know everything about unschooling.

>
> You can't say "no one feels your site is useful" because not everyone on
this
> list is going to want to go to your site to see whether they feel it is
> useful.
>
> But it's not an unschooling site.

I never said it was a unschooling site. I said it was a homeschooling site.

>
> If there were more unschooling links than just unschooling.com, I missed
> them.

You missed them. I even have your site listed.

Click here to see the links http://learnathome.tripod.com/id69.htm and here
for the links to articles http://learnathome.tripod.com/id67.htm
>

Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

Yeah, if I see it's a tripod site, I usually don't click on it unless I
think I can't get the info anywhere else.
Pop-ups are annoying as all get out.
Someday, I'll invest in some pop-up-killing software, but until then,
forget it!
Heidi

[email protected]

In a message dated 3/16/03 4:14:57 PM, learnathome@... writes:

<< Many people must enjoy the
information since I have had over 12,000 visitors in a little over a year.
>>

Penny, then you're doing a lot of people a lot of good. That's great.

In the context in which you originally mentioned the site, I just objected
to the fact that it's not primarily an unschooling site. You have a link to
www.unschooling.com, but everyone here knows that site. I have a site with
lots of unschooling links, and I think people here know about that one.

I don't think a page with lots of links to sites concerning structured
homeschooling will be helpful to people on this particular list.

-=- Who is wondering if she should unsub from this group? Since no one
feels my site is useful and I have evidentally have nothing to offer.-=-

Were you here just to offer us access to your site?

You can't say "no one feels your site is useful" because not everyone on this
list is going to want to go to your site to see whether they feel it is
useful.

But it's not an unschooling site.

If there were more unschooling links than just unschooling.com, I missed
them.

You're welcome to stay here for your interest in unschooling.

Sandra

Pam Hartley

If you're going to get upset every time someone doesn't like the pop-ups at
the site you're offering, that might be the best choice. Why put yourself
through that kind of aggravation?

Pam


----------
>From: "Penny Holder" <learnathome@...>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Website
>Date: Sun, Mar 16, 2003, 2:11 PM
>

> PS: Who is wondering if she should unsub from this group? Since no one
> feels my site is useful and I have evidentally have nothing to offer.

Tia Leschke

> Yeah, if I see it's a tripod site, I usually don't click on it unless I
> think I can't get the info anywhere else.
> Pop-ups are annoying as all get out.
> Someday, I'll invest in some pop-up-killing software, but until then,
> forget it!

There's a free one. I think it's called Popup Stopper or something like
that. It's a bit of a pain, though, because it stops the new windows that a
lot of sites send you to that aren't advertising.
Tia

[email protected]

In a message dated 3/16/03 6:47:00 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:

<< Is everyone on this list experienced? No
newbies like me???? >>

Yep, pretty much...:)
Actually, the list is full of people that are die-hard, pure, radical
unschoolers. It matters not if your are new, it's more important that you
completely embrace unschooling.
Because there are tons of lists for all types of homeschoolers and I don't
know of any that offer a list for only die-hard unschoolers, it's kind of a
special place.
I'm not the list owner, so I can't speak for her...but I'd say stick around,
it's a nice place. You won't find support for anything that doesn't look like
unschooling....and you won't find interest in anything that is for structured
homeschoolers, that much I know.


Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett

nellebelle

Re: popups

I am so excited because dh and I upgraded my 'puter today from 32 MB RAM to 256. We also added a CD RW, so now I can finally get all those digital photos backed up on CD and clear some hard drive space on my teeny tiny 3.2 GB hard drive that we thought was HUGE when we bought this 4 years ago.

One of the things I noticed right away is the difference in popups. At 32 MB RAM, I could hear my computer chugging away, dealing with the popup, finally the popup would popup, then I could delete it and get on with things. Now they popup nearly instantly and I can delete them much faster!

Mary Ellen


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Penny Holder

> << Is everyone on this list experienced? No
> newbies like me???? >>
>
> Yep, pretty much...:)
> Actually, the list is full of people that are die-hard, pure, radical
> unschoolers. It matters not if your are new, it's more important that you
> completely embrace unschooling.
>
Thanks for letting me know. I joined to learn about unschooling and what
better place to learn than with the most experienced.

Could everyone tell me how old their children are, how long you have been
unschooling, and what a typical day is like?

Thanks so much!

Penny
Usborne Books
http://www.ubah.com/J1915

kbolden

Hello
I'm new to this list and hoping for some guidance on unschooling. My oldest 2 (15 and 17) did some private school, and some homeschool during the years. We never used a boxed curriculum, but we did set semester goals, keep track of projects, make reading lists, etc. My 17yo opted to go to public hs this last year, mostly for the sports :-). My 15yo hasn't been to school in many years, but she convinced the local junior college to let her in last semester; she's mainly concentrating on college stuff now.

But my 4yo -- what a handful! He and I are both in the right "place" for unschooling I think ... but I'm not really sure how to get started.

TIA
Kay


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[email protected]

In a message dated 3/16/2003 8:08:15 PM Central Standard Time,
leschke@... writes:

> Yeah, if I see it's a tripod site, I usually don't click on it unless I
> >think I can't get the info anywhere else.
> >Pop-ups are annoying as all get out.
> >Someday, I'll invest in some pop-up-killing software, but until then,
> >forget it!
>
> There's a free one. I think it's called Popup Stopper or something like
> that. It's a bit of a pain, though, because it stops the new windows that
> a
> lot of sites send you to that aren't advertising.
>

Another way to stop pop-ups is to run Ad-Aware on your machine. (The links
to get it for free are at <A HREF="www.lavasoft.com.)">www.lavasoft.com.)</A> It goes through and finds all
the data miners on your machine and cleans them off. The person who told me
about Ad-Aware was impressed that someone else had 7 data miners. My machine
had 283. :(

Tuck


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coyote's corner

That's wonderful!! Where do you list your site?? Do you get many visitors
from linking?? Do you have a program for listing the site??

I appreciate any information!
Janis

Coyotes Corner
Very Cool Stuff for the World
<www.coyotescorner.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: SandraDodd@... [mailto:SandraDodd@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Website


In a message dated 3/16/03 4:14:57 PM, learnathome@... writes:

<< Many people must enjoy the
information since I have had over 12,000 visitors in a little over a year.
>>

Penny, then you're doing a lot of people a lot of good. That's great.

In the context in which you originally mentioned the site, I just objected
to the fact that it's not primarily an unschooling site. You have a link to
www.unschooling.com, but everyone here knows that site. I have a site with
lots of unschooling links, and I think people here know about that one.

I don't think a page with lots of links to sites concerning structured
homeschooling will be helpful to people on this particular list.

-=- Who is wondering if she should unsub from this group? Since no one
feels my site is useful and I have evidentally have nothing to offer.-=-

Were you here just to offer us access to your site?

You can't say "no one feels your site is useful" because not everyone on
this
list is going to want to go to your site to see whether they feel it is
useful.

But it's not an unschooling site.

If there were more unschooling links than just unschooling.com, I missed
them.

You're welcome to stay here for your interest in unschooling.

Sandra



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Penny Holder

> That's wonderful!! Where do you list your site?? Do you get many visitors
> from linking?? Do you have a program for listing the site??
>
I just list it on the search engines, in my signature line, exchange links
with people, etc.

I don't have any program for listing it. It is all manual via my fingers.
LOL :)

Penny

Penny Holder

>
> Another way to stop pop-ups is to run Ad-Aware on your machine. (The
links
> to get it for free are at <A
HREF="www.lavasoft.com.)">www.lavasoft.com.)</A> It goes through and finds
all
> the data miners on your machine and cleans them off. The person who told
me
> about Ad-Aware was impressed that someone else had 7 data miners. My
machine
> had 283. :(
>
I couldn't find Ad-Aware at www.lavasoft.com but did find it at
www.lavasoftusa.com

Penny

Janet Hamlin

We have been unschooling since birth, LOL. When my dd was born (now 8 1/2)
I searched the internet for homeschooling, found unschooling and Sandra et
al over on AOL, to unschooling.com and the rest is history.

Dd, by her own choice, this year attends a Sudbury model school (unschooling
school). She is very outgoing and social and our local homeschooling group
and arranged playdates never satisfied her needs. So this works well for us
(though I miss her!).

Ds is 4 1/2 and home. Well, at the office, actually. I own a veterinary
hospital and ds comes with me. He helps out, has his own room with
computer, TV/VCR, art supplies, books, etc, and a grassy area out back
(well, it's melting snow now <g>) where he can play, we have a futon for
resting if he needs it, etc.

The kids play well together and this weekend it was warm, the snow was
melting, and they spent hours in the wooded area in our front yard, in the
shallow stream and mud, playing. They rode their bikes, watched Chitty
Chitty Bang Bang, Heidi, and MacGyver, helped make brownies and cookies,
read books, drew pictures and wrote notes, played checkers, etc. Pretty
typical.

Dh and a friend spent Saturday afternoon doing maintenance on their
motorcycles. I walked 11 miles and worked on my novel. Dh later worked on
a computer program he's writing for a friend's tent business, and went to
hear another friend's band play.

Janet, mom to Caroline, 8 1/2, and Thomas, 4 1/2
http://jefhdvm.pledgepage.org
Changing lives, one mile at a time.

[email protected]

In a message dated 3/17/03 6:44:14 AM, kbolden@... writes:

<< But my 4yo -- what a handful! He and I are both in the right "place" for
unschooling I think ... but I'm not really sure how to get started. >>

With a four year old, you just never start any schoolish stuff. The same way
he learned things as a baby and toddler, he can continue to use (minus, in
most kids, the tasting of every new item to see if it's food or chewable! <g>)

Try to consciously think "stimulation" when you're deciding what to do with
him. Every time he sees, hears, touches, smells or even tastes (think
restaurant, not furniture) something new he's learning.

Here are a couple of articles which discuss ideas for new unschoolers. Both
were first in Home Education Magazine (with links below that might work for
some people):


http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/HEM/194/jaunschooling.html

http://sandradodd.com/deschooling


<A HREF="http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/HEM/194/jaunschooling.html">HEM -
July-August 2002</A>

<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/deschooling">Deschooling for Parents, by
Sandra Dodd</A>


Sandra

[email protected]

In a message dated 3/17/03 8:02:21 AM, jefhdvm@... writes:

<< They rode their bikes, watched Chitty
Chitty Bang Bang, Heidi, and MacGyver, >>

I had the greatest visual in that list, of MacGyver getting the old flying
car to run and going to rescue Heidi!!

Sandra

[email protected]

In a message dated 3/17/03 6:17:09 AM, learnathome@... writes:

<< Could everyone tell me how old their children are, how long you have been
unschooling, and what a typical day is like? >>

Mine are 16, 14 and 11. None has ever been to school.

Typical days have changed over the years, but always involved the
availability of things to play with, music to hear, movies to watch, jokes
and fun, somewhere to go if it's been a few days and anyone's restless,
people coming over, encouragement and praise and thanking people for doing
something nice, or for having been patient, or whatever we can thank them for.

In the morning Kirby went to fighter practice (armored combat, informal
bouts, SCA thing) and then to a movie with two older friends. Holly hung
out with me, we drove Marty around to find a friend who was supposed to be
playing basketball in a certain park and then going to play orc-ball with
Marty, but Marty needed to cancel orc ball for weather and too small a group
available that day.

The basketball game wasn't happening either, but we went to the gaming shop,
where the guy was. Then we went to a bookstore to get a Rolling Stone for
me, a gift for a party Holly's going to (we got some booster packs and a
Harry Potter magazinish thing--lots of photos and interviews about the
movies, and some about other movies--really nice, and when we got home I read
lots to Holly and we looked at all the pictures, trying not to finger-print
it or eye-track it too severely). Then we went to Baskin Robbins, where
marty had wanted to go in the first place, but I had to spend something to
get cash.

Holly invited a friend over and they played dolls for hours and hours, until
9:55 when I drove her home in the rain.

At night Marty had four kids over to watch movies on DVD, and they'd stop to
check outtakes and had a great time.

I went to bed before Kirby got home.

I could tell the tale of what all my husband did, which interwove through all
of that. He was at fighter practice too, but had gone earlier than Kirby.
Kirby went with one friend, and came back with different ones. Then he
(Keith the husband) worked in the garage and the yard some, we talked about a
new weed we have this year, already up everywhere, and we don't recognize it.
Marty helped bring some boxes out to the shed for me because I'm afraid to
go on stairs with boxes now for a while, because of a recently broken leg.
Keith went to Costco, and brought back pizzas as a surprise. That was nice,
since we had kids coming and going all kinds of times.

There were a few more things, but that wasn't an unusual day.

Sandra

coyote's corner

Amazing!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Penny Holder [mailto:learnathome@...]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Website


> That's wonderful!! Where do you list your site?? Do you get many visitors
> from linking?? Do you have a program for listing the site??
>
I just list it on the search engines, in my signature line, exchange links
with people, etc.

I don't have any program for listing it. It is all manual via my fingers.
LOL :)

Penny




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Kelly Dollinger

Hi, I'm also new to the list and mostly a lurker as I get so busy I
can't read as often as I would like.. But I love these glimpses into
others daily 'unschooling' lives. It helps chase away any old "voices"
(of doubt) that pop in there every now and then!

(Wasn't there a Far Side cartoon where a kid opens the door of
the Teacher's
Lounge and finds behind it monsters, smoking? I feel like one
of the
monsters <g>)
LOL!!

It was a lovely quilt, each piece of fabric an article of
clothing that was
my mothers. One of the pieces had her name and date of birth and
death. Then
that poem that goes "One hundred years from now, it will not
matter what kind
of car I drove, what kind of house I lived in, how much money I
had or what
my clothes looked like. But the world may be a little better,
the universe a
little brighter, because I was important to a child." and then a
personal
note followed:
"Karen (My legal name)--Your mother's mission in life was to
make a
difference not just in the lives of her own children, but all
children whose
lives she was able to touch. She succeeded in both, and not it
is your
priilege to carry it on to following generations. You too will
succeed, for
you have a lot of your mother in you.
In loving memory of your mother.

This is Wonderful! As a quilter and a daughter, I can’t imagine a more
precious and personal gift!
What a special father you have.

Kelly


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