Dawn Falbe

Hi Betsy and Heather:

Betsy I thought that was a great idea about checking with the library so
I called our local library and asked them why 25 and what if we were
school teachers or homeschoolers. He said that it's 25 but they do go
over sometimes and school teachers are not treated any differently. He
said the best thing to do is to get a card for each person in the family
and that way (he asked how many there were of us) we could take out 100
books at a time. As I said to him "and I think it would be me that
would have to lug 100 books back to the car (LOL).... They have been
known to let me check out more than 25 but they usually remind me that I
have over 25 and if I could bring some back that would be helpful.

Dawn F.
Tucson, AZ

Hi, Heather --

I don't know how "suggestable" your librarians are, but I've used a
library system where "educators" could check out larger numbers of books
with longer renewal privileges. I wonder if you could get your
librarians to create a policy loophole like that?


I want to kick myself for suggesting that some people should get more
privileges at the library than others, but it seems to me that you need
a higher limit. (Or need to get more cards for the youngest kids. But
then you'd probably need a shopping cart to get all the books home.)
:-)

Betsy

Todd Tyrtle

Hi there,

At Tuesday, 18 February 2003, you wrote:
>Hi Betsy and Heather:
>
>Betsy I thought that was a great idea about checking with the library
so
>I called our local library and asked them why 25 and what if we were
>school teachers or homeschoolers. He said that it's 25 but they do go
>over sometimes and school teachers are not treated any differently. He

Back home in Missouri, the Springfield Library let us take out 50
items per card. With three of us that gets to be quite a task.
We've taken to borrowing a reshelving cart to get to the counter
to check them out and then bagging the items and putting them on
the cart again for them to take to the drive-through window.

We didn't know how spoiled we were by that library until we got out
here in Albuquerque. The library system isn't bad by any means,
but I think that the Springfield, Missouri library, for a city almost
a fifth of the size of Albuquerque has a better selection and more
resources. Of course Springfield has had the benefit of collecting
our (often rather heavy) fines for some time now so I can understand
where they get their enormous budget.

-Todd
who has been lurking here for a while now and is having a bit of
a hard time keeping up with all the traffic on the list *and* work
and looks forward to getting back home someday to be the at-home
parent again...

waptia <[email protected]>

Speaking of Nanini... I made the mistake of asking about homeschool
programs there to the co-ordinator. She told me all about their
afternoon teen program and how it was perfect for homeschoolers. Even
though it had nothing to do with homeschoolers. ;)

I plastered a smile on my face and started backing slowly away...

So far about fifty books is all I can handle taking out, more than
that and they just sit around.

I'll post some recent good picks for videos and reference, that is
after I renew 'em! ;)

Todd, the Springfield library sounds awesome.

Peggy

Betsy

**We didn't know how spoiled we were by that library until we got out
here in Albuquerque.**

We just moved and the new library doesn't have quite as large a
collection, but it's open on Sundays, which I consider a terrific
luxury, since going to the library *by myself* is my idea of wild fun. <g>

Betsy

mary krzyzanowski

Our 2 previous libraries (before we moved) had 6 week due dates for books
for teachers and homeschoolers. I don't know if there was any limit on the
number. One library had a wonderful service: You told them the subject
matter, age/grade levels desired and what kind of materials. The subject
matter was whatever the kids' current interest was. The next week, we could
go pick up the boxed materials.
It sure saved me time. Of course, the kids would still go around finding
more library materials.
Mary-NY






>From: "Dawn Falbe" <astrologerdawn@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Nannini Library - Tucson
>Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:43:20 -0700
>
>Hi Betsy and Heather:
>
>Betsy I thought that was a great idea about checking with the library so
>I called our local library and asked them why 25 and what if we were
>school teachers or homeschoolers. He said that it's 25 but they do go
>over sometimes and school teachers are not treated any differently. He
>said the best thing to do is to get a card for each person in the family
>and that way (he asked how many there were of us) we could take out 100
>books at a time. As I said to him "and I think it would be me that
>would have to lug 100 books back to the car (LOL).... They have been
>known to let me check out more than 25 but they usually remind me that I
>have over 25 and if I could bring some back that would be helpful.
>
>Dawn F.
>Tucson, AZ
>
>Hi, Heather --
>
>I don't know how "suggestable" your librarians are, but I've used a
>library system where "educators" could check out larger numbers of books
>with longer renewal privileges. I wonder if you could get your
>librarians to create a policy loophole like that?
>
>
>I want to kick myself for suggesting that some people should get more
>privileges at the library than others, but it seems to me that you need
>a higher limit. (Or need to get more cards for the youngest kids. But
>then you'd probably need a shopping cart to get all the books home.)
>:-)
>
>Betsy
>
>


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Dawn <[email protected]>

Hi Todd: It's so wonderful to see that you joined this list. You'll
get back to being the stay at home dad as soon as you send that wife
of yours back to work!!!!

Dawn F
Tucson, AZ

> Back home in Missouri, the Springfield Library let us take out 50
> items per card. With three of us that gets to be quite a task.
> We've taken to borrowing a reshelving cart to get to the counter
> to check them out and then bagging the items and putting them on
> the cart again for them to take to the drive-through window.
>
> We didn't know how spoiled we were by that library until we got out
> here in Albuquerque. The library system isn't bad by any means,
> but I think that the Springfield, Missouri library, for a city
almost
> a fifth of the size of Albuquerque has a better selection and more
> resources. Of course Springfield has had the benefit of collecting
> our (often rather heavy) fines for some time now so I can
understand
> where they get their enormous budget.
>
> -Todd
> who has been lurking here for a while now and is having a bit of
> a hard time keeping up with all the traffic on the list *and* work
> and looks forward to getting back home someday to be the at-home
> parent again...

[email protected]

In a message dated 2/18/03 4:54:13 PM, todd@... writes:

<< We didn't know how spoiled we were by that library until we got out
here in Albuquerque. The library system isn't bad by any means,
but I think that the Springfield, Missouri library, for a city almost
a fifth of the size of Albuquerque has a better selection and more
resources. >>

You can get a Friends of the Library card at UNM if you want to, and use
Zimmerman. (Used to be able to, anyway.)

But for the Rio Grande library, it's nice to have one close, but sad when the
books ARE on the shelves, across town. If we just had one or two big
libraries in Albuquerque instead of the ten or a dozen, there would be a
greater variety of books, I guess.

Interlibrary loan?

I use Title Wave and Page One Too more than I use the library.

Sandra

Tia Leschke

>
> But for the Rio Grande library, it's nice to have one close, but sad when
the
> books ARE on the shelves, across town. If we just had one or two big
> libraries in Albuquerque instead of the ten or a dozen, there would be a
> greater variety of books, I guess.

Are they not linked into one system? Both the one where I live and the one
in Victoria are part of library systems, so if the book you want is anywhere
in that system you can order it, and it will come to your branch. It's much
less hassle than interlibrary loan.
Tia

[email protected]

In a message dated 2/19/03 1:40:12 PM, leschke@... writes:

<< Are they not linked into one system? Both the one where I live and the one
in Victoria are part of library systems, so if the book you want is anywhere
in that system you can order it, and it will come to your branch. It's much
less hassle than interlibrary loan. >>

Yes, but the tend to have about the same books. If your branch's copy is
checked out I guess maybe they'll request the other branch's copy for you.
But I think generally they expect you to drive over there and get it and then
return it where you got it.

It's more like a neighborhood library thing than a series of different
libraries.

Albuquerque has a park in every neighborhood. Instead of anyone have to drive
to a park, they can pretty much walk. And the same mentality seemed to be
applied to the libraries. When they get more money it goes to another
buildings.

I don't know of a limit on books, there aren't late fees, and it's three
cities togther supporting the system, Albuquerque, Rio Rancho and Bernalillo.

Seventeen libraries, with special collections housed at the old library
building.

Sandra

Todd Tyrtle

Hi Dawn,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Dawn <astrologerdawn@...> wrote:

> Hi Todd: It's so wonderful to see that you joined this list. You'll
> get back to being the stay at home dad as soon as you send that wife
> of yours back to work!!!!

It was a very good recommendation on your part. It's quite helpful in
keeping me centered while surrounded by the craziness that is the working
world in my industry.

Sage should be getting back to work soon. Another dozen or so teeth to be
removed about this time next month and I've got at least a couple more
months left on the project. If all goes well this job will slow down just
in time for her web design business to pick back up (it's been all but
completely dead for nearly a year now, I'm afraid)

-Todd

Todd Tyrtle

Hi Sandra,
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 2/18/03 4:54:13 PM, todd@... writes:
>
> << We didn't know how spoiled we were by that library until we got out
> here in Albuquerque. The library system isn't bad by any means,
> but I think that the Springfield, Missouri library, for a city almost
> a fifth of the size of Albuquerque has a better selection and more
> resources. >>
>
> You can get a Friends of the Library card at UNM if you want to, and use
> Zimmerman. (Used to be able to, anyway.)

We might have to look into that.

> But for the Rio Grande library, it's nice to have one close, but sad when the
> books ARE on the shelves, across town. If we just had one or two big
> libraries in Albuquerque instead of the ten or a dozen, there would be a
> greater variety of books, I guess.

My thoughts exactly. Springfield has probably half the number of branches
but much more selection. They've recently taken to buying large
superstores (old home depot is their latest) and turning them into
enormous library complexes. But I can't complain too much. I have to
drive over an hour to get from our home in Missouri to Springfield. Our
hometown library is a little bigger than our apartment - I'm only slightly
exaggerating. They have so few books that they have to limit everyone to
a maximum of four books per card.

> > Interlibrary loan?

Yeah, that works pretty well when you know what you want. I find more
just by browsing these days, though.

> I use Title Wave and Page One Too more than I use the library.

Good thinking. I just got into bookcrossing.com recently and I love the
idea of just leaving books around for people. Buying them cheaply could
make it that much easier to just leave them behind.

-Todd

Todd Tyrtle

Sandra,

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 2/19/03 1:40:12 PM, leschke@... writes:
>
> << Are they not linked into one system? Both the one where I live and the one
> in Victoria are part of library systems, so if the book you want is anywhere
> in that system you can order it, and it will come to your branch. It's much
> less hassle than interlibrary loan. >>
>
> Yes, but the tend to have about the same books. If your branch's copy is
> checked out I guess maybe they'll request the other branch's copy for you.
> But I think generally they expect you to drive over there and get it and then
> return it where you got it.
>
> It's more like a neighborhood library thing than a series of different
> libraries.

Exactly. But what I've found is that if the book I want isn't there and I
put a hold on it and set the pickup location to my local branch then it's
there waiting for me in a couple of days.

> Albuquerque has a park in every neighborhood. Instead of anyone have to drive
> to a park, they can pretty much walk. And the same mentality seemed to be
> applied to the libraries. When they get more money it goes to another
> buildings.

I definitely appreciate the amount of greenspace (brownspace?) here and
the prevalence of pedestrian/bike trails as well. I can't imagine riding
a bike on the road in this city. It seems the drivers here are
particularly dangerous.

> I don't know of a limit on books, there aren't late fees, and it's three
> cities togther supporting the system, Albuquerque, Rio Rancho and Bernalillo.

There's a limit on our cards anyway of 50 for the adults and 25 for
children. That gives us a limit of 125, though, which is fine by me.

-Todd

Tia Leschke

>
> Yes, but the tend to have about the same books. If your branch's copy is
> checked out I guess maybe they'll request the other branch's copy for you.
> But I think generally they expect you to drive over there and get it and
then
> return it where you got it.
>
> It's more like a neighborhood library thing than a series of different
> libraries.

They ours work is that each library has a basic collection that's pretty
much the same as all the others. But when I look up a book (or tape or
video or CD or CDRom) it will show in one or more branches. I then put a
hold on it, right from home, and get a call when it's in my branch to pick
up. I love ordering online. It's like ordering from catalogs, but for
free. If I'm looking up a subject, invariably there are a bunch more that
I'll want, and I order them too. I pick up anywhere from 2-10 items every
week when I go in.
Tia, who lives where neither parks nor libraries are walking distance.