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That whole article you printed made me sick to my stomache.
Knowing it exists and having to read about it are two different things, and
it made me physically ill.
What a bunch of sick, sick people. They feel justified in venting their anger
and meanness on their own children.

As to spanking stuff, I will look around and see if I have anything useful
for the page.
I am so glad you're doing this, I know I can send people there that have
questions and it will be THOROUGH!! :)
Thank you.

Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett

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In a message dated 2/2/03 10:17:44 AM, starsuncloud@... writes:

<< Knowing it exists and having to read about it are two different things,
and
it made me physically ill. >>

Ack! Sorry. You didn't HAVE to read it.

I'm sorry.

Didn't mean to ruin your morning. (sorry.)

Sandra

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I had meant for that to be the jittery edge of CHANGE, but both make about
the same sense. Because I ran across that article accidently while looking
for something real to help me decide something about James Dobson.

Sandra

nellebelle

His question and answer column runs once a week in our local newspaper. I usually read it, because I want to hear what sort of horrible advice he is giving out. I wonder how many readers in our area read it and take it as good advice.

Mary Ellen
----- Original Message ----- Because I ran across that article accidently while looking
for something real to help me decide something about James Dobson.


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In a message dated 2/2/03 2:42:18 PM Central Standard Time,
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<< Didn't mean to ruin your morning. (sorry.) >>

YOU didn't.....I'm glad someone here watches out for what those nuts are up
to.
I know when I get to a post like that, it's the dread/fascination thing. Like
going past a car wreck. I don't WANT to know what's there, but I can't help
looking. :)
I think I am overly empathetic sometimes.
I can't read about stuff like that and not picture the torture and pain of
the children. I actually see it in my head, I feel their pain, I hurt inside
when I read stuff like that.
But I want to be informed.
So I read anyway. sigh....

We just watched "Signs" tonight. I blubbered like a baby more than once.

Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."

----Frances Hodgson Burnett