[AlwaysLearning] late learning musicians
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I now know how to play 6 whole notes on my new acoustic guitar!! And today I
played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".
And there was no teacher in sight.
Hooray for me!!!
Elissa
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played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".
And there was no teacher in sight.
Hooray for me!!!
Elissa
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In a message dated 12/1/02 11:42:34 AM, Earthmomma67@... writes:
<< I now know how to play 6 whole notes on my new acoustic guitar!! And today
I
played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".
And there was no teacher in sight. >>
COOL!!!
<< I now know how to play 6 whole notes on my new acoustic guitar!! And today
I
played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".
And there was no teacher in sight. >>
COOL!!!
Joylyn
Good job.
:-)
joylyn
Earthmomma67@... wrote:
:-)
joylyn
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Aileen Bath
Big congratulations coming from Philadelphia!! I taught myself guitar when I was about 13 or so. I took lessons (or rather was forced to in music college) but they didn't teach me anything that I didn't already know. If you don't already have one, I would recommend picking up a book of guitar chords - they're easy to figure out and you'll be able to follow song sheets/fake books. Guitar tablature is also pretty easy to figure out - there are plenty of sites online to download this.
Happy picking!!!
Aileen
Happy picking!!!
Aileen
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From: Earthmomma67@...
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Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:40 PM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] late learning musicians
I now know how to play 6 whole notes on my new acoustic guitar!! And today I
played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".
And there was no teacher in sight.
Hooray for me!!!
Elissa
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Thanks!
Last night for Hanukkah, I got a poster of chords.
DH told me to stop for a while or I'll amke my fingers bleed!
Elissa
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Last night for Hanukkah, I got a poster of chords.
DH told me to stop for a while or I'll amke my fingers bleed!
Elissa
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Aileen Bath
Well, if your hands really hurt stop. I doubt strongly that they'd actually bleed. The good news is that callouses do develop on the fingertips. Once they do, try to keep them intact. Prolonged exposure to water will make them fall off......so it's a good idea to wear rubber gloves for dishwashing and cleaning.
Please let me know if there's any music you need. My hubby and I are both Music Therapists and have tons and tons of music laying around.
Aileen
Please let me know if there's any music you need. My hubby and I are both Music Therapists and have tons and tons of music laying around.
Aileen
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Thanks!
Last night for Hanukkah, I got a poster of chords.
DH told me to stop for a while or I'll amke my fingers bleed!
Elissa
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Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema
At 05:06 PM 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:
played until the skin on your fingertips wears off or bleeding
starts. Literally. Even my own darling daughter has achieved this 'high
honor'! As a non-musician I think it's a bit much, but it causes no long
term damage and seems to very much be a right of passage for them, so...
If you get to the point where they actually bleed, you'll have made that
right of passage too!
Congratulations (I think.)
(grin-Owch!)
Heidi
> DH told me to stop for a while or I'll amke my fingers bleed!It's a 'sign of dedication' amongst my daughter's musician friends to have
played until the skin on your fingertips wears off or bleeding
starts. Literally. Even my own darling daughter has achieved this 'high
honor'! As a non-musician I think it's a bit much, but it causes no long
term damage and seems to very much be a right of passage for them, so...
If you get to the point where they actually bleed, you'll have made that
right of passage too!
Congratulations (I think.)
(grin-Owch!)
Heidi
Tia Leschke
> I now know how to play 6 whole notes on my new acoustic guitar!! And todayI
> played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".Way to go, Elissa! And don't worry about your fingers bleeding. Lots of
> And there was no teacher in sight.
> Hooray for me!!!
people learn to play without getting bleeding fingers. When they start to
hurt, just play a little bit longer and you'll build up calluses (sp?).
Tia
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Aileen,
Thanks for the dishwashing tips, I hadn't thought of that.
And also for the music offer! As soon as I can play more than 6 note, or as
of today 8 note songs, I'll let you know! <grin>
Elissa, who can accompany herself to Yankee Doodle
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Thanks for the dishwashing tips, I hadn't thought of that.
And also for the music offer! As soon as I can play more than 6 note, or as
of today 8 note songs, I'll let you know! <grin>
Elissa, who can accompany herself to Yankee Doodle
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Meghan Anderson
--- In AlwaysLearning@y..., Earthmomma67@a... wrote:
Well done Elissa!
Meghan (who's relearning the piano after giving it up at age 12)
> I now know how to play 6 whole notes on my new acousticguitar!! And today I
> played Beethoven's "Ode to Joy".This is your back.....Here is your pat......
> And there was no teacher in sight.
> Hooray for me!!!
> Elissa
Well done Elissa!
Meghan (who's relearning the piano after giving it up at age 12)
Kate Green
My 2 older kids have both taught themselves guitar (accoustic, electric,
and bass) and they spend lots of time downloading guitar tabs.
It's pretty impressive how much they have learnt and how good they are. I
came out of years of piano, flute and cello lessons and have to say that
they read music, have learnt faster and spend way more hours playing than I
ever used to. The oldest is even teaching himself music theory which is way
over my head:)
He is in a band and they have their first gig next week so tension is high.
They've made cds and it's even being sold at the local international school!
Kate
At 11:16 AM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
and bass) and they spend lots of time downloading guitar tabs.
It's pretty impressive how much they have learnt and how good they are. I
came out of years of piano, flute and cello lessons and have to say that
they read music, have learnt faster and spend way more hours playing than I
ever used to. The oldest is even teaching himself music theory which is way
over my head:)
He is in a band and they have their first gig next week so tension is high.
They've made cds and it's even being sold at the local international school!
Kate
At 11:16 AM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
> Big congratulations coming from Philadelphia!! I taught myself guitartoday I
>when I was about 13 or so. I took lessons (or rather was forced to in music
>college) but they didn't teach me anything that I didn't already know. If
>you don't already have one, I would recommend picking up a book of guitar
>chords - they're easy to figure out and you'll be able to follow song
>sheets/fake books. Guitar tablature is also pretty easy to figure out -
>there are plenty of sites online to download this.
>
> Happy picking!!!
>
> Aileen
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In a message dated 12/2/02 10:21:03 PM, leschke@... writes:
<< Lots of
people learn to play without getting bleeding fingers. When they start to
hurt, just play a little bit longer and you'll build up calluses (sp?). >>
I've never bled, but I've had blisters. I'd quit at blisters, and work a
little more the next day, or six or eight hours later.
I first learned on an old blues guitar and the strings were NOT very near the
neck, which was curved (an f-hole guitar, more like a violin body than
guitar). YUCK! So when I sold my clarinet and bought a flat-neck guitar
with close action, I was THRILLED and really started learning fast.
I only play occasionally now, and can only go an hour or so without some
pain. But once you've ever had callouses, it seems easier for them to
reappear. It's the first few times that are scary. It's not that bad after
you get used to it, and you'll also learn to use the minimal necessary
pressure instead of the fearful fret-crowding grip of a beginner.
Sandra
<< Lots of
people learn to play without getting bleeding fingers. When they start to
hurt, just play a little bit longer and you'll build up calluses (sp?). >>
I've never bled, but I've had blisters. I'd quit at blisters, and work a
little more the next day, or six or eight hours later.
I first learned on an old blues guitar and the strings were NOT very near the
neck, which was curved (an f-hole guitar, more like a violin body than
guitar). YUCK! So when I sold my clarinet and bought a flat-neck guitar
with close action, I was THRILLED and really started learning fast.
I only play occasionally now, and can only go an hour or so without some
pain. But once you've ever had callouses, it seems easier for them to
reappear. It's the first few times that are scary. It's not that bad after
you get used to it, and you'll also learn to use the minimal necessary
pressure instead of the fearful fret-crowding grip of a beginner.
Sandra
Joylyn
you are up early, Sandra.
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
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> In a message dated 12/2/02 10:21:03 PM, leschke@... writes:
>
> << Lots of
> people learn to play without getting bleeding fingers. When they start to
> hurt, just play a little bit longer and you'll build up calluses (sp?). >>
>
> I've never bled, but I've had blisters. I'd quit at blisters, and work a
> little more the next day, or six or eight hours later.
>
> I first learned on an old blues guitar and the strings were NOT very
> near the
> neck, which was curved (an f-hole guitar, more like a violin body than
> guitar). YUCK! So when I sold my clarinet and bought a flat-neck guitar
> with close action, I was THRILLED and really started learning fast.
>
> I only play occasionally now, and can only go an hour or so without some
> pain. But once you've ever had callouses, it seems easier for them to
> reappear. It's the first few times that are scary. It's not that bad
> after
> you get used to it, and you'll also learn to use the minimal necessary
> pressure instead of the fearful fret-crowding grip of a beginner.
>
> Sandra
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Joylyn
oh I was going to say, Mark, professional musician, has major callusses
or however it's spelled on all his fingers.
I could probably hold a lit candle to his finger tips and it would be a
while before he felt it. Not that I would do that. He hasn't made me
mad lately. ;-)
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
or however it's spelled on all his fingers.
I could probably hold a lit candle to his finger tips and it would be a
while before he felt it. Not that I would do that. He hasn't made me
mad lately. ;-)
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
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> In a message dated 12/2/02 10:21:03 PM, leschke@... writes:
>
> << Lots of
> people learn to play without getting bleeding fingers. When they start to
> hurt, just play a little bit longer and you'll build up calluses (sp?). >>
>
> I've never bled, but I've had blisters. I'd quit at blisters, and work a
> little more the next day, or six or eight hours later.
>
> I first learned on an old blues guitar and the strings were NOT very
> near the
> neck, which was curved (an f-hole guitar, more like a violin body than
> guitar). YUCK! So when I sold my clarinet and bought a flat-neck guitar
> with close action, I was THRILLED and really started learning fast.
>
> I only play occasionally now, and can only go an hour or so without some
> pain. But once you've ever had callouses, it seems easier for them to
> reappear. It's the first few times that are scary. It's not that bad
> after
> you get used to it, and you'll also learn to use the minimal necessary
> pressure instead of the fearful fret-crowding grip of a beginner.
>
> Sandra
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Aileen Bath
Hi --
I come from a past steeped in organ and piano lessons (which I loved). Then went onto study music in college....the whole hard core classical training (shudder). Now I teach piano to make extra $$ and guess how my 5yo is learning piano? Teaching herself. I always thought she "should" learn an instrument that dh and I don't play, from someone other than DH and I....but now I'm just so happy for the kid (and for my intact pocketbook). Once in a while she'll ask for a "lesson" -- which consists of me showing her something. But she generally kicks me off the piano bench pretty quickly to get back to her own thing.
I think the most wonderful thing about teaching oneself anything at any age is that the individual really owns the accomplishment. Where my piano playing has many influences....my daughters has very few -- and I think there's something special about that.
Aileen
I come from a past steeped in organ and piano lessons (which I loved). Then went onto study music in college....the whole hard core classical training (shudder). Now I teach piano to make extra $$ and guess how my 5yo is learning piano? Teaching herself. I always thought she "should" learn an instrument that dh and I don't play, from someone other than DH and I....but now I'm just so happy for the kid (and for my intact pocketbook). Once in a while she'll ask for a "lesson" -- which consists of me showing her something. But she generally kicks me off the piano bench pretty quickly to get back to her own thing.
I think the most wonderful thing about teaching oneself anything at any age is that the individual really owns the accomplishment. Where my piano playing has many influences....my daughters has very few -- and I think there's something special about that.
Aileen
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From: Kate Green
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] late learning musicians
My 2 older kids have both taught themselves guitar (accoustic, electric,
and bass) and they spend lots of time downloading guitar tabs.
It's pretty impressive how much they have learnt and how good they are. I
came out of years of piano, flute and cello lessons and have to say that
they read music, have learnt faster and spend way more hours playing than I
ever used to. The oldest is even teaching himself music theory which is way
over my head:)
He is in a band and they have their first gig next week so tension is high.
They've made cds and it's even being sold at the local international school!
Kate
At 11:16 AM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
> Big congratulations coming from Philadelphia!! I taught myself guitar
>when I was about 13 or so. I took lessons (or rather was forced to in music
>college) but they didn't teach me anything that I didn't already know. If
>you don't already have one, I would recommend picking up a book of guitar
>chords - they're easy to figure out and you'll be able to follow song
>sheets/fake books. Guitar tablature is also pretty easy to figure out -
>there are plenty of sites online to download this.
>
> Happy picking!!!
>
> Aileen
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> From: Earthmomma67@...
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:40 PM
> Subject: [AlwaysLearning] late learning musicians
>
>
> I now know how to play 6 whole notes on my new acoustic guitar!! And
today I
> "".
> And there was no teacher in sight.
> Hooray for me!!!
> Elissa
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Aileen Bath
Oh -- one more thing re: blisters, pain.....
Electric guitars are really nice to play. The action of the strings is much lower, bar chords are a true breeze, and you can ROCK!! You can pick up a pretty cheap electric for under a hundred.....a small cheap amplifier should be in the same ballpark. Also, classical guitars are also easier to play than steel strings because the strings are made of nylon. If you use light gauge strings on your steel string guitar - it will be somewhat easier on the fingers than mediums or heavy gauge.
Happy picking!!
Aileen
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Electric guitars are really nice to play. The action of the strings is much lower, bar chords are a true breeze, and you can ROCK!! You can pick up a pretty cheap electric for under a hundred.....a small cheap amplifier should be in the same ballpark. Also, classical guitars are also easier to play than steel strings because the strings are made of nylon. If you use light gauge strings on your steel string guitar - it will be somewhat easier on the fingers than mediums or heavy gauge.
Happy picking!!
Aileen
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In a message dated 12/3/02 7:14:56 AM Central Standard Time,
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<< And there was no teacher in sight.
Dh just gave me his old acoustic guitar, I only know two whole chords, wish
me luck!
Ren
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What's important, is knowing all the questions."
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<< And there was no teacher in sight.
> Hooray for me!!!Way to go Elissa!!
> Elissa
Dh just gave me his old acoustic guitar, I only know two whole chords, wish
me luck!
Ren
"The answers aren't important really...
What's important, is knowing all the questions."
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Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com
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In a message dated 12/3/02 6:12:14 AM, aileenb@... writes:
<< Also, classical guitars are also easier to play than steel strings because
the strings are made of nylon. If you use light gauge strings on your steel
string guitar - it will be somewhat easier on the fingers than mediums or
heavy gauge. >>
Oh good point! I use light gauge steel.
Nylon strings sound kinda dead to me, and also the necks are wider on
classical guitars than mine. I have a Martin D-18 and my original Ventura
that I bought when I was fifteen.
Sandra
<< Also, classical guitars are also easier to play than steel strings because
the strings are made of nylon. If you use light gauge strings on your steel
string guitar - it will be somewhat easier on the fingers than mediums or
heavy gauge. >>
Oh good point! I use light gauge steel.
Nylon strings sound kinda dead to me, and also the necks are wider on
classical guitars than mine. I have a Martin D-18 and my original Ventura
that I bought when I was fifteen.
Sandra
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Hey Ren,
we can do a duet in the talent show next year in SC!!
Elissa
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we can do a duet in the talent show next year in SC!!
Elissa
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Aileen Bath
Ooooooh I'm jealous of your Martin!! They are truly sweet guitars!! Taylor's also....
Aileen
Aileen
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In a message dated 12/3/02 6:12:14 AM, aileenb@... writes:
<< Also, classical guitars are also easier to play than steel strings because
the strings are made of nylon. If you use light gauge strings on your steel
string guitar - it will be somewhat easier on the fingers than mediums or
heavy gauge. >>
Oh good point! I use light gauge steel.
Nylon strings sound kinda dead to me, and also the necks are wider on
classical guitars than mine. I have a Martin D-18 and my original Ventura
that I bought when I was fifteen.
Sandra
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Tia Leschke
> Ooooooh I'm jealous of your Martin!!I had one in my teens. I honestly can't remember what I did with it. I had
sold my really good clarinet to get it. I probably sold it. I wish we had
it now.
Tia
Tia Leschke
> oh I was going to say, Mark, professional musician, has major callussesBack in my Berkeley days I used to go barefoot almost all the time. I had
> or however it's spelled on all his fingers.
>
> I could probably hold a lit candle to his finger tips and it would be a
> while before he felt it. Not that I would do that. He hasn't made me
> mad lately. ;-)
such heavy calluses on my feet that I could put a cigarette out with my bare
foot. (smoked in those days)
Tia
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<< Hey Ren,
we can do a duet in the talent show next year in SC!!
Elissa >>
Well......If Marji goes after us (I can't imagine doing anything after
hearing her beautiful music).
I suppose it would be entirely appropriate to have two older beginning
musicians in a talent show at an unschooling conference!!
Ren
"The answers aren't important really...
What's important, is knowing all the questions."
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<< Hey Ren,
we can do a duet in the talent show next year in SC!!
Elissa >>
Well......If Marji goes after us (I can't imagine doing anything after
hearing her beautiful music).
I suppose it would be entirely appropriate to have two older beginning
musicians in a talent show at an unschooling conference!!
Ren
"The answers aren't important really...
What's important, is knowing all the questions."
-Zilpha Keatley Snyder
Unschooling support at pensacolaunschoolers.com