Our group
[email protected]
I started the L.I.F.E. support group (Learning in Freedom Everyday)
specifically for supporting unschoolers, but also for anyone looking for a
nonreligious group.
LeaAnn and I figured we'd not have a whole lot of interest, but it would be
nice for those pagan, atheist and other homeschoolers that are feeling
isolated due to all the very fundi homeschoolers down here.
Well, this month, the main support group just HAD to adopt a statement of
faith for it's leaders, which includes any parents wanting to organize a
field trip or host a geography day (something they have regularly).
So to make a long story short, we are now getting phone calls from ULTRA
conservative people that have a problem with a sof, and want a group that is
not going to adopt one.
Our group (for some reason I can't quite figure out) seems to be their best
alternative.
Yikes.
This isn't what we planned at ALL!!
I'm being very blunt with them as to what it's all about, mentioned our
Halloween party a couple of times to be sure. So here I am in the unique
position of being the only group they know of that is nonreligious.
I spent over an hour on the phone last night trying to explain unschooling
and why I believe in attachment parenting/non spanking etc....
I sent one lady some links to read, not sure if I'm wanting to be the voice
for Christian homeschoolers that need to start thinking for the first time in
their lives.
I pointed some things out that got an "I never thought about that" response,
especially in regards to spanking.
The plan was to reach all the homeschoolers that felt alone or without
support due to their beliefs or lack thereof. But a stupid sof has caused a
fall out that even I did not expect.
I'd like to write the President of the homeschool league and tell them just
what effect it's had. Is it even worth my time to explain why sof's are a BAD
thing?
sigh.....
Just needing to unload. Thanks for being here y'all.
Ren
specifically for supporting unschoolers, but also for anyone looking for a
nonreligious group.
LeaAnn and I figured we'd not have a whole lot of interest, but it would be
nice for those pagan, atheist and other homeschoolers that are feeling
isolated due to all the very fundi homeschoolers down here.
Well, this month, the main support group just HAD to adopt a statement of
faith for it's leaders, which includes any parents wanting to organize a
field trip or host a geography day (something they have regularly).
So to make a long story short, we are now getting phone calls from ULTRA
conservative people that have a problem with a sof, and want a group that is
not going to adopt one.
Our group (for some reason I can't quite figure out) seems to be their best
alternative.
Yikes.
This isn't what we planned at ALL!!
I'm being very blunt with them as to what it's all about, mentioned our
Halloween party a couple of times to be sure. So here I am in the unique
position of being the only group they know of that is nonreligious.
I spent over an hour on the phone last night trying to explain unschooling
and why I believe in attachment parenting/non spanking etc....
I sent one lady some links to read, not sure if I'm wanting to be the voice
for Christian homeschoolers that need to start thinking for the first time in
their lives.
I pointed some things out that got an "I never thought about that" response,
especially in regards to spanking.
The plan was to reach all the homeschoolers that felt alone or without
support due to their beliefs or lack thereof. But a stupid sof has caused a
fall out that even I did not expect.
I'd like to write the President of the homeschool league and tell them just
what effect it's had. Is it even worth my time to explain why sof's are a BAD
thing?
sigh.....
Just needing to unload. Thanks for being here y'all.
Ren
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/31/2002 9:53:23 AM Central Standard Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
that location, you can't turn around without bumping into a church and church
members, so we had a lot of the same issues. Some of the Christians who were
attracted to Live & Learn because of their associations with other people in
the group decided to start their own Christian type group, that would have no
statement of faith, and would be open to all sorts of Christians. It's a
pretty good group, as tolerant as can be expected in the climate, and still
going strong.
I suggest you simply suggest to those who call that they build something for
themselves. It doesn't have to be S.O.F. or unschooling.
Tuck
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
starsuncloud@... writes:
> The plan was to reach all the homeschoolers that felt alone or withoutI started a similar group, called Live & Learn, where I used to live. In
> support due to their beliefs or lack thereof. But a stupid sof has caused a
>
> fall out that even I did not expect.
>
that location, you can't turn around without bumping into a church and church
members, so we had a lot of the same issues. Some of the Christians who were
attracted to Live & Learn because of their associations with other people in
the group decided to start their own Christian type group, that would have no
statement of faith, and would be open to all sorts of Christians. It's a
pretty good group, as tolerant as can be expected in the climate, and still
going strong.
I suggest you simply suggest to those who call that they build something for
themselves. It doesn't have to be S.O.F. or unschooling.
Tuck
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/31/02 9:53:23 AM, starsuncloud@... writes:
<< So to make a long story short, we are now getting phone calls from ULTRA
conservative people that have a problem with a sof, and want a group that is
not going to adopt one.
Our group (for some reason I can't quite figure out) seems to be their best
alternative.
Yikes.
This isn't what we planned at ALL!! >>
Our group here in Chicago is an inclusive non-sectarian group. It wasn't set
up for unschoolers (we're definitely still a minority) or for any particular
agenda at all. As far as I can tell, we are the best group that has ever
existed! There are very religious people of all persuasions and pagans,
super-structured folks and me <gg>. The wide variety of people is teaching us
all about lots of things, including tolerance and respect. Right now I think
there are 80 or 90 families involved.
As regards your group then, you could explain to the new people where the
group is coming from and then let the chips fall where they may. Or maybe
your group will morph into something a little different, but still great.
Paula
<< So to make a long story short, we are now getting phone calls from ULTRA
conservative people that have a problem with a sof, and want a group that is
not going to adopt one.
Our group (for some reason I can't quite figure out) seems to be their best
alternative.
Yikes.
This isn't what we planned at ALL!! >>
Our group here in Chicago is an inclusive non-sectarian group. It wasn't set
up for unschoolers (we're definitely still a minority) or for any particular
agenda at all. As far as I can tell, we are the best group that has ever
existed! There are very religious people of all persuasions and pagans,
super-structured folks and me <gg>. The wide variety of people is teaching us
all about lots of things, including tolerance and respect. Right now I think
there are 80 or 90 families involved.
As regards your group then, you could explain to the new people where the
group is coming from and then let the chips fall where they may. Or maybe
your group will morph into something a little different, but still great.
Paula
moe
Hi Ren, I would love to see the HS links you sent to that lady. I want to know more about attached parenting and non spanking without having to weed thru every link in the history of mankind. I would really appreciate it! Mary in Va. nomads3@...
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[email protected]
In a message dated 10/31/02 8:53:36 AM, starsuncloud@... writes:
<< I sent one lady some links to read, not sure if I'm wanting to be the
voice
for Christian homeschoolers that need to start thinking for the first time in
their lives. >>
You could just tell them how to start their own group. Or you could start it
for them and then drop out.
Or you could have two divisions of your group--two lists. And find some
leader-type for their division. And then split.
-=-I'd like to write the President of the homeschool league and tell them
just
what effect it's had. Is it even worth my time to explain why sof's are a BAD
thing?-=--
Oh absolutely NOT! They had a reason, and they're probably glad to see each
family that won't sign go. They don't want the unwashed, the unsaved, the
uncooperative.
Sandra
<< I sent one lady some links to read, not sure if I'm wanting to be the
voice
for Christian homeschoolers that need to start thinking for the first time in
their lives. >>
You could just tell them how to start their own group. Or you could start it
for them and then drop out.
Or you could have two divisions of your group--two lists. And find some
leader-type for their division. And then split.
-=-I'd like to write the President of the homeschool league and tell them
just
what effect it's had. Is it even worth my time to explain why sof's are a BAD
thing?-=--
Oh absolutely NOT! They had a reason, and they're probably glad to see each
family that won't sign go. They don't want the unwashed, the unsaved, the
uncooperative.
Sandra
[email protected]
Mary,
If you google it, you won't have to wade through a bunch of links, just pick
the good ones!
But here's some for your consideration:
http://www.futurenet.org/5Millennium/heartandsoul.htm
Mindful Parenting, great site!
http://www.bconnex.net/~cspcc/daycare/attach.htm
And this is Dr. Sears on Attachment parenting
If you want these links and more, just go to pensacolaunschoolers.com
We have some links to great books too.
Ren
If you google it, you won't have to wade through a bunch of links, just pick
the good ones!
But here's some for your consideration:
http://www.futurenet.org/5Millennium/heartandsoul.htm
Mindful Parenting, great site!
http://www.bconnex.net/~cspcc/daycare/attach.htm
And this is Dr. Sears on Attachment parenting
If you want these links and more, just go to pensacolaunschoolers.com
We have some links to great books too.
Ren
moe
Thanks for obliging me! as an afterthought, I thought about google.... I know my hubby will be happy with the pensacola link as he was "born" and raised in Sunrise. Mary in Va.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]