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I haven't seen anyone suggest this but this is what I would do.
I would call the local office and ask *them* if someone had called you. This
person did not identify himself, correct? if he isn't part of DFS, they should
know that someone is claiming to be part of their office. If he is a DFS
investigator, I would make a formal complaint that this person didn't ID himself
AND scared your daughter.
Don't let them roll over on you. You have the right to know if there is a
complaint about you, not who complained but if there is one.

Elissa Jill
Life's challenges are not supposed to paralyze you;
They're supposed to help you discover who you are.
~Bernice Johnson Reagon


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Sara

Earthmomma67@a... wrote:

"I haven't seen anyone suggest this but this is what I would do.
I would call the local office and ask *them* if someone had called
you. This person did not identify himself, correct? if he isn't part
of DFS, they should know that someone is claiming to be part of
their office. If he is a DFS investigator, I would make a formal
complaint that this person didn't ID himself AND scared your
daughter. Don't let them roll over on you. You have the right to
know if there is a complaint about you, not who complained but if
there is one."

I agree 100%. Even though you may feel you are drawing attention to
yourself...they need to be counciled on this...and of course if it
was some wierdo...that should be reported to the police.

We can't always stay incognito when our personal safety has been
breached...I feel like this family's has been. Personally, I'd
rather know who's after me. Sara

Sondra Carr

I would tend to agree with this. Does anyone know what exactly would happen
if there was a complaint on this? I think it often helps to know what the
"worst case scenario" would be.

Related but slightly different story - my ex-husband's first wife used to
try to scare me any way she could and at one time when we were renovating
our house told me that it wasn't suitable for children and she was going to
call the child-protective agency and have them come take my kids away. I was
so scared but then got angry and called the agency myself, explained the
situation and asked "what would happen if she does call?" They said that
they would send someone to check and if they found something wrong, they
would tell me and help me find resources to eliminate the problem. What
started as a terrible fear actually turned into a resource and I called back
the first wife and said "let me give you the number!"





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Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: The Dreaded Phone Call



Earthmomma67@a... wrote:

"I haven't seen anyone suggest this but this is what I would do.
I would call the local office and ask *them* if someone had called
you. This person did not identify himself, correct? if he isn't part
of DFS, they should know that someone is claiming to be part of
their office. If he is a DFS investigator, I would make a formal
complaint that this person didn't ID himself AND scared your
daughter. Don't let them roll over on you. You have the right to
know if there is a complaint about you, not who complained but if
there is one."

I agree 100%. Even though you may feel you are drawing attention to
yourself...they need to be counciled on this...and of course if it
was some wierdo...that should be reported to the police.

We can't always stay incognito when our personal safety has been
breached...I feel like this family's has been. Personally, I'd
rather know who's after me. Sara




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In a message dated 9/16/04 9:22:28 AM, cheeps4u@... writes:

<< I agree 100%. Even though you may feel you are drawing attention to

yourself...they need to be counciled on this...and of course if it

was some wierdo...that should be reported to the police.

>>

Oh! OOOOH!

You could write and say that someone pretending to be from their office
called, and it couldn't really have been a legitimate contact because he didn't
leave a name or number, and you wanted them to know someone was out making them
look *really* bad. <g>

I'm way more for writing than calling. Then you'll have a copy, and they
will deal with it in a better way, probably, if it's a piece of paper they have
to file instead of a phone call they can summarize in their own words (or
ignore, or distort, or misquote).

Sandra

Sondra Carr

Yes - absolutely. Make the letter very official and even send it certified
mail. I once took on my son's school this way when all the other kids mom's
were being bullied into putting them on drugs to control their behavior. I
sent everything in the mail and indicated at the bottom that I was retaining
copies. Sometimes just looking like you're represented makes you too
difficult a target to go after.





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From: SandraDodd@... [mailto:SandraDodd@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: The Dreaded Phone Call




You could write and say that someone pretending to be from their office
called, and it couldn't really have been a legitimate contact because he
didn't
leave a name or number, and you wanted them to know someone was out making
them
look *really* bad. <g>

I'm way more for writing than calling. Then you'll have a copy, and they
will deal with it in a better way, probably, if it's a piece of paper they
have
to file instead of a phone call they can summarize in their own words (or
ignore, or distort, or misquote).

Sandra




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Robyn Coburn

<<<I'm way more for writing than calling. Then you'll have a copy, and they

will deal with it in a better way, probably, if it's a piece of paper they
have to file instead of a phone call they can summarize in their own words
(or ignore, or distort, or misquote).>>>

This is a great idea, although she has posted that she wants to get her
paperwork up to date - so perhaps she should do that first.

Robyn L. Coburn

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In a message dated 9/16/04 11:10:48 AM, sondracarr@... writes:

<< I would tend to agree with this. Does anyone know what exactly would happen
if there was a complaint on this? I think it often helps to know what the
"worst case scenario" would be. >>

Quite depends on the jurisdiction (homeschooling laws of that area) and how
the family acts if/when contacted.

This was GREAT!:
-=-"what would happen if she does call?" They said that
they would send someone to check and if they found something wrong, they
would tell me and help me find resources to eliminate the problem. What
started as a terrible fear actually turned into a resource and I called back
the first wife and said "let me give you the number!" -=-

Good one! <g>

Sandra

Sara

<sondracarr@u...> wrote:
"Yes - absolutely. Make the letter very official and even send it
certified mail. I once took on my son's school this way when all the
other kids mom's were being bullied into putting them on drugs to
control their behavior. I sent everything in the mail and indicated
at the bottom that I was retaining copies."

Curiousity alert!

Did they back down? I have a friend in this same situation who is
now going to start homeschooling...any advice? I guess it's far gone
now. She's taking them out next week I think. She has to get her HS
diploma and other little quacks in a row. sara

Sondra Carr

Oh yes - backed way way down. I was almost ready to give up when the anger
started and I decided to try the creative approach. Honesty and try caring
weren't working so I just made them well aware that I was documenting
everything and then the final straw came when a note was sent home about why
my son's artwork was ripped up by a teacher because he wanted to finish it
and the teacher wanted him to move on to something else -well - I saw red
(no art pun intended) and decided to send a reply (documented) in which I
sought assurance that my families long tradition of creativity was being
given respect and that the officials of this academic establishment were not
trying to disparage our heritage. And miraculously, my son's "behavior"
improved - over-night.

Later after a move to another district and the threat of having to go
through it all again I decided to pull them out. But it does work to
document and let them know you are. When you take the proactive, offensive
role, they can't get you on the defensive and eventually, they write you off
and deal with it the way it is.



Sondra



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Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: The Dreaded Phone Call



<sondracarr@u...> wrote:
"Yes - absolutely. Make the letter very official and even send it
certified mail. I once took on my son's school this way when all the
other kids mom's were being bullied into putting them on drugs to
control their behavior. I sent everything in the mail and indicated
at the bottom that I was retaining copies."

Curiousity alert!

Did they back down? I have a friend in this same situation who is
now going to start homeschooling...any advice? I guess it's far gone
now. She's taking them out next week I think. She has to get her HS
diploma and other little quacks in a row. sara



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