peasants and gypsies and bad genetics
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-=-"Babies should be fed on their mother's milk until they are six months
old. If they are weaned later than this, they remain much too connected with the
maternal forces of inheritance and become over-dependent upon these forces. We
can readily understand this statement made by Rudolf Steiner. At the end of
its first half year, the child is already trying to sit up. In this striving,
as will be more fully explained later, those forces of uprightness show
themselves that are working in the baby. They are a sign of how the individuality is
taking possession of the physical body. At six months, the child may reach
such a stage of development that it can to a certain extent free itself from the
forces of inheritance. This freedom is most easily achieved in the domain of
nutrition. At half a year the child is able to digest other than the mother's
milk without any difficulty. Besides this, observation teaches us that the
child who remains too long at the breast comes to resemble its parent closely. In
the past, when people loved to see in a child the image of its mother,
children were still given the breast, even when they could already run about. Among
peasants and gypsies this was the usual thing - and may still be."
Source: Conception Birth & Early Childhood, Norbert Glas, M.D.,
Anthroposophic Press, Inc., Spring Valley, NY, 1972, pp.41-42.
-=-
So....
This guy and his followers thought children looked like their mothers becuase
they nursed too long?? I guess he ignored physical resemblance in kids
adopted out, or bottlefed? So teaching this made-up kind of science is as crazy
as some of the revisionist kind of science and history taught in some of the
homeschooling curriculae of the Christian homeschoolers.
It's embarrassing when it's homeschooling. When it's for big bucks in a
private school, you get what you pay for, and if you pay extra you can get
extra-crazy.
Quotes from an article of someone who is somewhat a practicing Waldorf mom:
-=-He is not in a Waldorf school at this time, but has been raised saying
morning greetings, food blessings, and under carefully planned "good modeled
behavior". He is not in a class, but we do circle songs, bake bread & make soup,
cut vegetables, wet on wet paint, and do many of the things that I know do go
on in the kindergarten setting. The children he plays with are all in the
Waldorf school. He is a happy, well adjusted and friendly little boy. Very well
rounded and very smart!
-=-It is my belief, that whether a child is fed from the breast, bottle, or
spoon, it is important to look at the whole picture before making wild
assumptions about developmental or character flaws and blaming it on breastfeeding,
co-family sleeping, eating grains, or meats, wearing red or yellow, sleeping
upstairs or downstairs, etc. It seems purely ridiculous to me. And has anyone
even considered temperament in labeling and behavioral problems?
-=-
(Off to see what wearing red or yellow or sleeping upstairs or downstairs is
supposed to do. Gypsies wore red and yellow and HAD no upstairs. Maybe it's
more anti-gypsy sentiment. <bwg>)
Sandra
old. If they are weaned later than this, they remain much too connected with the
maternal forces of inheritance and become over-dependent upon these forces. We
can readily understand this statement made by Rudolf Steiner. At the end of
its first half year, the child is already trying to sit up. In this striving,
as will be more fully explained later, those forces of uprightness show
themselves that are working in the baby. They are a sign of how the individuality is
taking possession of the physical body. At six months, the child may reach
such a stage of development that it can to a certain extent free itself from the
forces of inheritance. This freedom is most easily achieved in the domain of
nutrition. At half a year the child is able to digest other than the mother's
milk without any difficulty. Besides this, observation teaches us that the
child who remains too long at the breast comes to resemble its parent closely. In
the past, when people loved to see in a child the image of its mother,
children were still given the breast, even when they could already run about. Among
peasants and gypsies this was the usual thing - and may still be."
Source: Conception Birth & Early Childhood, Norbert Glas, M.D.,
Anthroposophic Press, Inc., Spring Valley, NY, 1972, pp.41-42.
-=-
So....
This guy and his followers thought children looked like their mothers becuase
they nursed too long?? I guess he ignored physical resemblance in kids
adopted out, or bottlefed? So teaching this made-up kind of science is as crazy
as some of the revisionist kind of science and history taught in some of the
homeschooling curriculae of the Christian homeschoolers.
It's embarrassing when it's homeschooling. When it's for big bucks in a
private school, you get what you pay for, and if you pay extra you can get
extra-crazy.
Quotes from an article of someone who is somewhat a practicing Waldorf mom:
-=-He is not in a Waldorf school at this time, but has been raised saying
morning greetings, food blessings, and under carefully planned "good modeled
behavior". He is not in a class, but we do circle songs, bake bread & make soup,
cut vegetables, wet on wet paint, and do many of the things that I know do go
on in the kindergarten setting. The children he plays with are all in the
Waldorf school. He is a happy, well adjusted and friendly little boy. Very well
rounded and very smart!
-=-It is my belief, that whether a child is fed from the breast, bottle, or
spoon, it is important to look at the whole picture before making wild
assumptions about developmental or character flaws and blaming it on breastfeeding,
co-family sleeping, eating grains, or meats, wearing red or yellow, sleeping
upstairs or downstairs, etc. It seems purely ridiculous to me. And has anyone
even considered temperament in labeling and behavioral problems?
-=-
(Off to see what wearing red or yellow or sleeping upstairs or downstairs is
supposed to do. Gypsies wore red and yellow and HAD no upstairs. Maybe it's
more anti-gypsy sentiment. <bwg>)
Sandra
[email protected]
http://www.waldorfhomeschoolers.com/breastfeeding.htm
(forgot the link to the breastfeeding page, which is called
Breastfeeding Despite of Anthroposophical Views!
)
(forgot the link to the breastfeeding page, which is called
Breastfeeding Despite of Anthroposophical Views!
)
[email protected]
In a message dated 8/9/2004 9:19:21 AM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
(Off to see what wearing red or yellow or sleeping upstairs or downstairs is
supposed to do. Gypsies wore red and yellow and HAD no upstairs. Maybe it's
more anti-gypsy sentiment. <bwg>)
~~~
In your travels, would you post anything you might come across that says
contemporary Waldorf people have disavowed the racist and non-breastfeeding
stuff? I'll try to look around, too.
The Waldorf families I know are all home-birthing, extended breastfeeding
co-sleepers, so these quotes don't make sense in light of my experience. I'm
thinking these people, my friends, are rationalizing the ugly parts of
Steiner's history away in order to be claiming his philosophy. I'd like to know
what that rationalization is.
Karen
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SandraDodd@... writes:
(Off to see what wearing red or yellow or sleeping upstairs or downstairs is
supposed to do. Gypsies wore red and yellow and HAD no upstairs. Maybe it's
more anti-gypsy sentiment. <bwg>)
~~~
In your travels, would you post anything you might come across that says
contemporary Waldorf people have disavowed the racist and non-breastfeeding
stuff? I'll try to look around, too.
The Waldorf families I know are all home-birthing, extended breastfeeding
co-sleepers, so these quotes don't make sense in light of my experience. I'm
thinking these people, my friends, are rationalizing the ugly parts of
Steiner's history away in order to be claiming his philosophy. I'd like to know
what that rationalization is.
Karen
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[email protected]
In a message dated 8/9/2004 10:49:01 AM Central Standard Time,
tuckervill2@... writes:
In your travels, would you post anything you might come across that says
contemporary Waldorf people have disavowed the racist and non-breastfeeding
stuff? I'll try to look around, too
~~~
I went to the breastfeeding link. It seems her rationalization was "do what
you think is right for yourself and your kids." The same one the
school-at-homers on our local list use for forcing their kids to do their school work
before they can go on the field trip.
Oh well. I guess I'll have to ask my friends what their actual
rationalizations are.
Karen
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tuckervill2@... writes:
In your travels, would you post anything you might come across that says
contemporary Waldorf people have disavowed the racist and non-breastfeeding
stuff? I'll try to look around, too
~~~
I went to the breastfeeding link. It seems her rationalization was "do what
you think is right for yourself and your kids." The same one the
school-at-homers on our local list use for forcing their kids to do their school work
before they can go on the field trip.
Oh well. I guess I'll have to ask my friends what their actual
rationalizations are.
Karen
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