Shannon CC

The crib that dh lovingly made with his own hands for his first born
child was finally used tonight . . . as a toddler trampoline! LOL!

Shannon, Mom to Bridget (Oct.8.98)

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My MIL spent tons on a crib.....I must admit that my dd slept in hers for two
years, only because I took one rail off, put it near my bed, slid over the
mattress, stuffed the cracks with pillows, and used it as a side car. My dd
could roll back and forth to nurse or be near me when she needed to. When
baby #2 came, we took it down, loaned it to a friend (who planned on using it
for naps) and added another full size bed next to ours where the dch and most
of the time, I sleep.

Oh the money we could have saved, uh?
Julie

CA Nelson

Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib Shannon-
   That's a great idea! Hmm, maybe we shouldn't take down the crib.

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Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls

The crib that dh lovingly made with his own hands for his first born
child was finally used tonight . . . as a toddler trampoline! LOL!

CA Nelson

Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib I was just thinking about what we could have done with the money saved if we hadn't bought the crib, but I just realized that my il's gave us that money! LOL!

--
Amy Nelson
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
From: Jaam1224@...

My MIL spent tons on a crib.....I must admit that my dd slept in hers for two
years, only because I took one rail off, put it near my bed, slid over the
mattress, stuffed the cracks with pillows, and used it as a side car.  My dd
could roll back and forth to nurse or be near me when she needed to.  When
baby #2 came, we took it down, loaned it to a friend (who planned on using it
for naps) and added another full size bed next to ours where the dch and most
of the time, I sleep.  

Oh the money we could have saved, uh?
Julie

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we gave the crib away without setting it up for the 3rd child and now i
regret it because maybe that would be where i could find some room to
sleep!!!l lol!!!! the 8 yob, the 5 yob and the 19 month old girl and dh don't
leave much room for me! we have exploded off the futon on the ground and
cover the entire bedroom floor!
bridget

Holly Atchison

Did you have any trouble with the bed moving and falling into the crack
yourself?? We would LOVE to have a family bed again but we are stationed in
Portugal where the military provides your household goods to you and our own
bed is in storage in the states. We have a queen size bed and with both our
kids in our bed there is hardly any room and I have even fallen out on
occasion. We have had the girls in their own room for a while now but I
miss them bieng in bed with us. We tried putting the two twin size beds
together to make a king size but it was terrible for whoever ended up in the
crack. Any suggestions would be wonderful as I miss sleeping with my
babies!

Holly=)


>From: Jaam1224@...
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:25:54 EDT
>
>My MIL spent tons on a crib.....I must admit that my dd slept in hers for
>two
>years, only because I took one rail off, put it near my bed, slid over the
>mattress, stuffed the cracks with pillows, and used it as a side car. My
>dd
>could roll back and forth to nurse or be near me when she needed to. When
>baby #2 came, we took it down, loaned it to a friend (who planned on using
>it
>for naps) and added another full size bed next to ours where the dch and
>most
>of the time, I sleep.
>
>Oh the money we could have saved, uh?
>Julie
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In a message dated 6/16/00 1:14:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
HollyAtch@... writes:

<< Did you have any trouble with the bed moving and falling into the crack
yourself?? >>
Holly,
I put one bed against the wall and the other one next to it, then I put very
thin, flat pillows over the cracks. So if the beds spread apart a little the
pillows saved me. The other thing you might consider, is something to keep
the beds from shifting apart between the box spring and mattress, like the
rubber you put under rugs to keep them from slipping maybe an idea.
Although, I have never tried it. Just a thought.....

Julie

CA Nelson

Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib Holly-
   Could you just put the mattress from your queen-sized bed on the floor and maybe do the same with the twin-sized beds? I know that works for a lot of people.

--
Amy Nelson
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls

Did you have any trouble with the bed moving and falling into the crack
yourself??  We would LOVE to have a family bed again but we are stationed in
Portugal where the military provides your household goods to you and our own
bed is in storage in the states.  We have a queen size bed and with both our
kids in our bed there is hardly any room and I have even fallen out on
occasion.  We have had the girls in their own room for a while now but I
miss them bieng in bed with us.  We tried putting the two twin size beds
together to make a king size but it was terrible for whoever ended up in the
crack.  Any suggestions would be wonderful as I miss sleeping with my
babies!

Holly Atchison

Thanks Julie, that just might work! =)


>From: Jaam1224@...
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:34:41 EDT
>
>In a message dated 6/16/00 1:14:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>HollyAtch@... writes:
>
><< Did you have any trouble with the bed moving and falling into the crack
> yourself?? >>
>Holly,
>I put one bed against the wall and the other one next to it, then I put
>very
>thin, flat pillows over the cracks. So if the beds spread apart a little
>the
>pillows saved me. The other thing you might consider, is something to keep
>the beds from shifting apart between the box spring and mattress, like the
>rubber you put under rugs to keep them from slipping maybe an idea.
>Although, I have never tried it. Just a thought.....
>
>Julie
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Holly Atchison

We actually tried that, one of us always just ended up on the floor =)


>From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:35:13 -0500
>
>Holly-
> Could you just put the mattress from your queen-sized bed on the floor
>and maybe do the same with the twin-sized beds? I know that works for a lot
>of people.
>
>--
>Amy Nelson
>Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
>"The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
>
>Did you have any trouble with the bed moving and falling into the crack
>yourself?? We would LOVE to have a family bed again but we are stationed
>in
>Portugal where the military provides your household goods to you and our
>own
>bed is in storage in the states. We have a queen size bed and with both
>our
>kids in our bed there is hardly any room and I have even fallen out on
>occasion. We have had the girls in their own room for a while now but I
>miss them bieng in bed with us. We tried putting the two twin size beds
>together to make a king size but it was terrible for whoever ended up in
>the
>crack. Any suggestions would be wonderful as I miss sleeping with my
>babies!
>

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Thank you Nanci I will try that! Sounds like a great idea.



>From: "Nanci and Thomas Kuykendall" <tn-k4of5@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:15:59 -0700
>
>We tried putting the two twin size beds
> >together to make a king size but it was terrible for whoever ended up in
>the
> >crack. Any suggestions would be wonderful as I miss sleeping with my
> >babies!
> >
> >Holly=)
>
>Try using something to bind the matresses together (like the infinately
>long and very strong celephane wrap that you get at moving supply places,
>or even just some srong flat ribbon wrapped several times around the
>matresses. Then put a foam pad over the whole thing, eggcrate, or
>whatever. You can mail order a king size foam pad, if there is no place
>available to get one near you. See if that works.
>
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Mark & Lorraine Fearnall

have you tried turning the 2 mattresses sideways - so that the crack is in
the middle of the bed - as well as the extra stuff you can do?

A mattress pad that is well padded might help as well - with the egg crate
too!

Lor
> >Try using something to bind the matresses together (like the infinately
> >long and very strong celephane wrap that you get at moving
> supply places,
> >or even just some srong flat ribbon wrapped several times around the
> >matresses. Then put a foam pad over the whole thing, eggcrate, or
> >whatever. You can mail order a king size foam pad, if there is no place
> >available to get one near you. See if that works.
> >
> >Nanci K.
> >
>

Holly Atchison

Thanks everyone! These are some good ideas. I will try them until I find
one that works and then I will let you know. (for future reference of course
<grin>) I appreciate everyones responses!

Holly


>From: "Mark & Lorraine Fearnall" <fearnall@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RE: [Unschooling-dotcom] King Size Bed (was unused crib)
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:44:50 -0400
>
>have you tried turning the 2 mattresses sideways - so that the crack is in
>the middle of the bed - as well as the extra stuff you can do?
>
>A mattress pad that is well padded might help as well - with the egg crate
>too!
>
>Lor
> > >Try using something to bind the matresses together (like the infinately
> > >long and very strong celephane wrap that you get at moving
> > supply places,
> > >or even just some srong flat ribbon wrapped several times around the
> > >matresses. Then put a foam pad over the whole thing, eggcrate, or
> > >whatever. You can mail order a king size foam pad, if there is no
>place
> > >available to get one near you. See if that works.
> > >
> > >Nanci K.
> > >
> >
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Why am I thinking we should write a book; 101 uses for an unused crib! <G>
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We used a roll of duct tape to fasten the frames together! It might sound
funny but it worked for 3 years until we got our kingsize. Someone more
handy could probably bolt them together.
Trisha


> ><< Did you have any trouble with the bed moving and falling into the
>crack
> yourself?? >>
>Holly,
>I put one bed against the wall and the other one next to it, then I put
>very
>thin, flat pillows over the cracks. So if the beds spread apart a little
>the
>pillows saved me. The other thing you might consider, is something to keep
>the beds from shifting apart between the box spring and mattress, like the
>rubber you put under rugs to keep them from slipping maybe an idea.
>Although, I have never tried it. Just a thought.....
>
>Julie

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Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib Oh yeah, I think we could easily come up with that number :).

--
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Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls

Why am I thinking we should write a book; 101 uses for an unused crib! <G>
             Trisha

Tracy Oldfield

I tried the sidecar thing with dd2, but found out pretty quick taht
she had to be touching me to sleep, so it was pointless trying to
move her back. She even had to sleep with bare feet so she
could feel me with her toes...

Tracy

On 16 Jun 2000, at 7:25, Jaam1224@... wrote:

My MIL spent tons on a crib.....I must admit that my dd
slept in hers for two 
years, only because I took one rail off, put it near my
bed, slid over the 
mattress, stuffed the cracks with pillows, and used it
as a side car. My dd 
could roll back and forth to nurse or be near me when
she needed to. When 
baby #2 came, we took it down, loaned it to a friend
(who planned on using it 
for naps) and added another full size bed next to ours
where the dch and most 
of the time, I sleep. 

Oh the money we could have saved, uh?
Julie

Tracy Oldfield

We have two 3/4size beds from Ikea, the mattress with legs type,
which fit together pretty well and don't move apart. They fit
snugly to the wall, too so I don't have to stuff down the side of the
mattress like I used to. The only problem we have is running out
of covers.

Tracy

On 16 Jun 2000, at 11:19, bctswim@... wrote:

we gave the crib away without setting it up for the 3rd
child and now i 
regret it because maybe that would be where i could
find some room to 
sleep!!!l lol!!!! the 8 yob, the 5 yob and the 19 month
old girl and dh don't 
leave much room for me! we have exploded off the futon
on the ground and 
cover the entire bedroom floor!
bridget

[email protected]

> I tried the sidecar thing with dd2, but found out pretty quick taht
> she had to be touching me to sleep, so it was pointless trying to
> move her back. She even had to sleep with bare feet so she
> could feel me with her toes...

True...but in a pinch, I end up sleeping half in the sidecar, so there's
still more space. Besides you can sleep all the way to the edge of the bed
without the six inch or so "safety margin" most of us leave.

:-) Diane

Holly Atchison

That is so cute!!!


>From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib
>Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:11:49 +0100
>
>I tried the sidecar thing with dd2, but found out pretty quick taht
>she had to be touching me to sleep, so it was pointless trying to
>move her back. She even had to sleep with bare feet so she
>could feel me with her toes...
>
>Tracy
>
>On 16 Jun 2000, at 7:25, Jaam1224@... wrote:
>
>My MIL spent tons on a crib.....I must admit that my dd
>slept in hers for two 
>years, only because I took one rail off, put it near my
>bed, slid over the 
>mattress, stuffed the cracks with pillows, and used it
>as a side car. My dd 
>could roll back and forth to nurse or be near me when
>she needed to. When 
>baby #2 came, we took it down, loaned it to a friend
>(who planned on using it 
>for naps) and added another full size bed next to ours
>where the dch and most 
>of the time, I sleep. 
>
>Oh the money we could have saved, uh?
>Julie
>
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In a message dated 00-06-17 13:14:44 EDT, you write:

<< We have two 3/4size beds from Ikea, the mattress with legs type, >>
tracy,
the mattress with legs type? huh? sounds useful but how does it work?
bridget

Tracy Oldfield

When we finally gave up on the cot, we turned the bed round so
that dd2 was next to the wall, me next (the meat in the sandwich)
and dd1 at the other side. Dh slept on the floor <g>

Tracy

On 17 Jun 2000, at 14:52, cen46624@... wrote:


True...but in a pinch, I end up sleeping half in the
sidecar, so there's 
still more space. Besides you can sleep all the way to
the edge of the bed 
without the six inch or so "safety margin" most of us
leave.

:-) Diane

[email protected]

I'm meat too...we have ds (2.5) nominally in the sidecar, then me, then dd
(baby), then dh when he gets home about 2 or 3 am. Then the kids and I are up
around 6, so it's only that way for 3 hours or so, but we sleep on our side
all night anyway.

:-) Diane

> When we finally gave up on the cot, we turned the bed round so
> that dd2 was next to the wall, me next (the meat in the sandwich)
> and dd1 at the other side. Dh slept on the floor <g>

dawn

I got tired of being the sandwich middle and now my husband and two older
boyz sleep together in the boyz' room and the baby and I sleep together.
I like this arrangement the best. for a long time we had a literal
bed-room (wall to wall futons) but then I decided that I wanted the bed on
the frame to give us some storage space (at a premium here) under it *and*
a shelf for the bedroom books. I guess I'm getting old and conventional.


dawn h-s

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I have the breath of life in me, a gift given at birth
No one, no body, no powers that be
Can ever, ever, ever take this gift away from me."
--Ruth Pelham


On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 cen46624@... wrote:

> I'm meat too...we have ds (2.5) nominally in the sidecar, then me, then dd
> (baby), then dh when he gets home about 2 or 3 am. Then the kids and I are up
> around 6, so it's only that way for 3 hours or so, but we sleep on our side
> all night anyway.
>
> :-) Diane
>
> > When we finally gave up on the cot, we turned the bed round so
> > that dd2 was next to the wall, me next (the meat in the sandwich)
> > and dd1 at the other side. Dh slept on the floor <g>
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Ha ha, I'm tired of being the meat, too, but both little ones are still
nursing, so I'll do it a while longer. Brian stays in the sidecar at times,
and I do usually have room to turn over, so it's not bad.

It helps that we don't have any other rooms to move anyone into anyway. :-)

:-) Diane

> I got tired of being the sandwich middle and now my husband and two older
> boyz sleep together in the boyz' room and the baby and I sleep together.
> I like this arrangement the best. for a long time we had a literal
> bed-room (wall to wall futons) but then I decided that I wanted the bed on
> the frame to give us some storage space (at a premium here) under it *and*
> a shelf for the bedroom books. I guess I'm getting old and conventional.

dawn

On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 cen46624@... wrote:

> Ha ha, I'm tired of being the meat, too, but both little ones are still
> nursing, so I'll do it a while longer. Brian stays in the sidecar at times,

I have yet to have a child totally wean, but the two older ones no longer
nurse at night, thank god. That was on OK thing to do (nurse them both at
night) for a few years, but I do admit to being pleased when they stopped
(the last just stopped this winter when I was pregnant and I think the
older one stopped the previous winter). I figure I have 3-4, maybe 5,
years of night nursing with this most recent one, and that's ok, too, but
this time it is just one child, which makes a big difference:) And then
he will move into another bed, too.

dawn

Brynn

We had a family bed until about a year ago, my 9yods still LOVES to hop in
bed with us. My beautiful 5yodd, HOWEVER, has been saying "can I go get in
my bed?" for a long time. ARgh, it breaks my heart sometimes, I'll even be
in her room, after reading her stories and lay down with her and sing her
one of the two songs I have always sang her and my son, and she'll say "I
want to go to sleep by myself mommy". As sad as it makes me, what can I do?
I just tell her ok, kiss her and go in the other room and whine to my
hubby....she slept only with us as an infant, the crib was my changing
table.....yet she is so independant. I guess I should embrace it. There's
nothing I can do when she says she wants to be in her own bed or wants to go
to sleep alone. I guess it's good that she is that content with being by
herself. Our son did sleep in his crib at times, but mostly with me however
not 100% of the time. Could that be why he still enjoys sleeping in our bed
so much? I wonder.....

Brynn

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Swing with the chicken that you love best
Come on down & do the chicken squawk with me..."
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib


Ha ha, I'm tired of being the meat, too, but both little ones are still
nursing, so I'll do it a while longer. Brian stays in the sidecar at times,
and I do usually have room to turn over, so it's not bad.

It helps that we don't have any other rooms to move anyone into anyway. :-)

:-) Diane

> I got tired of being the sandwich middle and now my husband and two older
> boyz sleep together in the boyz' room and the baby and I sleep together.
> I like this arrangement the best. for a long time we had a literal
> bed-room (wall to wall futons) but then I decided that I wanted the bed
on
> the frame to give us some storage space (at a premium here) under it
*and*
> a shelf for the bedroom books. I guess I'm getting old and conventional.

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Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bed Brynn-
   I can imagine how said you feel when you're daughter is being so independent, but just think how wonderful it is that because you met all of her attachment and security needs when she was an infant you gave her the self-confidence to do all of these things on her own. I wouldn't doubt that your son might have been hanging on a bit longer because of those nights in the crib, but every child is different. You just have to do what works with each one, huh?

--
Amy Nelson
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls

We had a family bed until about a year ago, my 9yods still LOVES to hop in
bed with us. My beautiful 5yodd, HOWEVER, has been saying "can I go get in
my bed?" for a long time.

Gayle Bechtel

Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bed
Brynn
My second son is the same way - very independent.  He will go and lay down in his bed when he is tired(he is going to be 2 July 7th).  My oldest (3 1/2) still likes someone to lay down with him, and he co-sleeps with his brother.  They still get up and want someone in there at night sometimes - hubby gets that job.  He enjoys it really.  They are just different children with different needs.  My oldest though is more outgoing to strangers - goes up to them and talks with them.  My youngest will wander off and not even look back.  So I am sure you are doing what is right but they just have different night time needs.
Gayle
From: CA Nelson
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bed

Brynn-
   I can imagine how said you feel when you're daughter is being so independent, but just think how wonderful it is that because you met all of her attachment and security needs when she was an infant you gave her the self-confidence to do all of these things on her own. I wouldn't doubt that your son might have been hanging on a bit longer because of those nights in the crib, but every child is different. You just have to do what works with each one, huh?

--
Amy Nelson
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
"The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls

We had a family bed until about a year ago, my 9yods still LOVES to hop in
bed with us. My beautiful 5yodd, HOWEVER, has been saying "can I go get in
my bed?" for a long time.
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in our house the sleeping arrangement is: in my double bed (no frame, just
mattresses on floor, against wall) dd # 3 against wall, dd # 2 in the
middle, then me on the outside nextt to side rail (in case dd 3 nurses in
night and ends up on my other side by mistake). dh is in br # 2 on bottom
bunk of bunk beds or on couch in liv. rm. dd #`1 is either on a fouton in my
br., on top bunk with daddy or (as of tonight) in her own brand new basement
room. (we'll see <g>). Confusing to others, but it works for us.
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: Tracy Oldfield <tracy.oldfield@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib


> When we finally gave up on the cot, we turned the bed round so
> that dd2 was next to the wall, me next (the meat in the sandwich)
> and dd1 at the other side. Dh slept on the floor <g>
>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jun 2000, at 14:52, cen46624@... wrote:
>
> 
> True...but in a pinch, I end up sleeping half in the
> sidecar, so there's 
> still more space. Besides you can sleep all the way to
> the edge of the bed 
> without the six inch or so "safety margin" most of us
> leave.
> 
> :-) Diane
>
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