Angela

Hi Everyone,
It's been a long time since I've posted on this list, but I recently joined
back up and have been reading for a couple of weeks. I'm enjoying my stay.


My question: There is an unschooling seminar, put on by Pat Farenga coming
to my state. Has anyone been to one of these before? It cost $60 and that
is quite a bit to me. I am very confident in unschooling so I am not
looking for someone to validate what I am doing. I see learning in
everything the kids do. But this opportunity doesn't come to Maine very
often. If any of you have been to one of these, do you feel that you got a
lot out of it besides validation for unschooling? Any other comments anyone
has to offer on the seminar?

Thanks,
Angela
unschooling@...




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In a message dated 2/15/04 11:30:30 AM, unschooling@... writes:

<< My question: There is an unschooling seminar, put on by Pat Farenga coming
to my state. Has anyone been to one of these before? It cost $60 and that
is quite a bit to me. >>

I think you could make better use of that much money!

And if you want to do a really cool thing, go to the conference near Boston
in August instead anyway, so you can see kids who haven't been to school (or
haven't been lately).

If you were to see Pat Farenga's kids, I think you would see some who have
been to school (lately).

But if you do want to go and hear him, it will probably be kinda fun and
inspiring, and it might be REALLY fun to find out he doesn't know much you don't
already know deep in your sould, but $60 is a lot to pay for that kind of
satisfaction. <bwg>

The conference in Boston, though... a trip with your family, seeing sights,
meeting people, hearing several different speakers, putting names and faces
to some of the people on this list...

Sandra

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In a message dated 2/15/04 12:16:27 PM, SandraDodd@... writes:

<< putting names and faces
to some of the people on this list...
>>

I mean to say voices and faces. You already have names.

Sandra

Melissa

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
<<putting names and faces to some of the people on this list...

I mean to say voices and faces. You already have names.>>

I would love to be able to go to the conference in Aug.
I'm "working" on my DH. He says that he is supportive of
unschooling but, whenever I bring up going to a conference, he
always has some reason as to why we shouldn't go. However, this is
one that I just might go to without him.

One question, my DD will be 3 by the time the conference rolls
around and I would need to bring her with me. I am not comfortable
leaving her with people that I don't know (assuming that there is
some kind of daycare set up), would I be able to bring her to
the "seminars" with me? She is really good as long as she has
something to keep her busy (crayons, or some quiet toys). Just
wondering, in case I am able to make it, with or without my hubby.

Melissa

Robyn Coburn

Last year there was no daycare as I think you are envisioning it. I had Jayn
with me who was 3 at the time. She spent her time with me at some talks, in
the little kids playroom adjoining the main room (set up with crafts and
toys), with me hovering near the door and listening, with James (we switched
out a bit), playing with Heather (Shyrley�s daughter) to whom she was
instantly attached, playing in the funshop room with either us or someone
else she liked, or swimming with all of us. This year she will probably swim
even more � since she really can now. Personally I was glad to have James
with me to switch out (just like at home), but there were lots of parents
there singly with one or more kids, lots of full families, and lots of Moms
taking a break without their young kids. I�m sure every experience was
different, but no-one has come forward to say it wasn�t worth every penny
and every moment. There was a real sense of community with people keeping a
gentle eye out for any little one wandering about � but lots more freedom of
movement for the kids than the hotel was probably used to. I was so happy to
be there even if I did miss some talks and funshops due to being with Jayn.
For me the core of the experience is just being around the others, and
seeing the older children (my future in a way). The chatting groups in the
hallways, rooms and restaurants are just as valuable as the talks, IMO.
Expect really late nights ;)

Robyn L. Coburn




<<One question, my DD will be 3 by the time the conference rolls
around and I would need to bring her with me. I am not comfortable
leaving her with people that I don't know (assuming that there is
some kind of daycare set up), would I be able to bring her to
the "seminars" with me? She is really good as long as she has
something to keep her busy (crayons, or some quiet toys). Just
wondering, in case I am able to make it, with or without my hubby.>>





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Angela

Angela
unschooling@...

Sandra,
Thanks for your response. If several of you raved about the workshop I
might have gone to check it out. But I'll probably just stay warm at home
and pay some bills with the money instead. ;0)

I loved Teach Your Own, however. It's one of my favorite books to recommend
to people. I was happy to see that the book was in print again, although I
haven't seen the new version yet, with the intro by Farenga. I was really
happy to read that he was speaking in this state though, because far too
many people do school -at -home and just don't trust that their children
will learn anyways. If what he says converts some school -at- homers to
unschooling, it'll be the best $60 they ever spent. I however, don't need
to be converted.

With regards to the conference in near Boston. (What town is it actually
in?) I hate to drive in Boston. Taking the train might be an option
though. It'd be a great girl friend thing to do. Leave the kids with the
hubbies and have a weekend out. Taking my kids to the conference doesn't
really appeal to me because I don't think they wouldn't enjoy it. I can see
them now, pulling on my leg saying, "when are we going to leave?" LOL!
It would be so cool to meet some of the people on this list though.

Angela
Unschooling@...

Sandra wrote:
but $60 is a lot to pay for that kind of
satisfaction. <bwg>

The conference in Boston, though... a trip with your family, seeing
sights,
meeting people, hearing several different speakers, putting names and faces
to some of the people on this list...

Sandra



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Robyn Coburn

<<Taking my kids to the conference doesn't
really appeal to me because I don't think they wouldn't enjoy it. I can see
them now, pulling on my leg saying, "when are we going to leave?" LOL!
It would be so cool to meet some of the people on this list though.>>



Considering the number of kids running all over the place having an absolute
blast at the last one, both in and out of the funshops, I would bet that
this would not happen. It�s more like, �Do we have to go home yet?� The
difference between this conference and any other one you have ever been to
(I am thinking of the few professional conferences I have attended in my
life) is beyond explanation. If they don�t come your experience will be more
immersive, but don�t stay away because you fear they won�t have fun. BTW the
conference is in Peabody.

Robyn L. Coburn (not affiliated with the organizers ;) � just a huge fan)





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Angela

> Considering the number of kids running all over the place
> having an absolute blast at the last one, both in and out of
> the funshops, I would bet that this would not happen.

Maybe, but they get overwhelmed by crowds pretty easily and find meeting new
people to be stressful. It's something to consider though. And Peabody is
on the outskirts enough for driving there not to be an issue. I've never
been to *any* home school conference, so I have nothing to compare to. I
just figured big crowds, big noise, overwhelmed kids. Thanks Robyn.

Angela
Unschooling@...

Robyn Coburn

<<Maybe, but they get overwhelmed by crowds pretty easily and find meeting
new
people to be stressful. It's something to consider though. And Peabody is
on the outskirts enough for driving there not to be an issue. I've never
been to *any* home school conference, so I have nothing to compare to. I
just figured big crowds, big noise, overwhelmed kids.>>



This is something to consider. I guess most of the time when people did
become overwhelmed, or needed down time they were mostly retiring to their
rooms in the hotel � sometimes in small groups. Jayn visited with Heather on
the same floor a couple of times briefly. In addition to the kids engaged in
different activities in the main areas, there were always bunches traveling
in the elevators. Some were renewing old friendships from past conferences,
others making new connections or meeting up with online friends. I guess the
experience would be different if you weren�t staying at the hotel.

Robyn L. Coburn





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Angela

Robyn,
Oh, I would definitely stay in the hotel if we came. The kids do love to
swim, so that would be nice. Retiring to our hotel room for some quiet time
is a good idea. Dh isn't really interested in going, although he would
probably come if he felt it was important to me. I told him he could come
see all the unschooled kids and see the difference unschooled and schooled
kids and he replied that he never sees many schooled kids anyway and he
already believes in unschooling. LOL! We are a pretty content lot. It
would be cool to meet all you folks though. I will keep the week-end
written in on my calendar and see if it works out in the end.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Angela
unschooling@...

I guess the
> experience would be different if you weren't staying at the hotel.
>
> Robyn L. Coburn