is this a John Holt quote?
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"Fish swim, dogs bark, children learn."
I thought I read it in Teach Your Own, but I can't find it back now. I'd
like to use it for a sig file, and I thought someone here might know it from
frequent use.
Thanks,
Amy
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I thought I read it in Teach Your Own, but I can't find it back now. I'd
like to use it for a sig file, and I thought someone here might know it from
frequent use.
Thanks,
Amy
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In a message dated 2/9/2004 3:13:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
arcarpenter@... writes:
"Fish swim, dogs bark, children learn."
I thought I read it in Teach Your Own, but I can't find it back now. I'd
like to use it for a sig file, and I thought someone here might know it from
frequent use.<<<<<<<
Fish swim, birds fly, humans learn.
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arcarpenter@... writes:
"Fish swim, dogs bark, children learn."
I thought I read it in Teach Your Own, but I can't find it back now. I'd
like to use it for a sig file, and I thought someone here might know it from
frequent use.<<<<<<<
Fish swim, birds fly, humans learn.
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In a message dated 2/9/2004 12:21:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:
Amy
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kbcdlovejo@... writes:
> Fish swim, birds fly, humans learn.Oh yeah, that's better than what I had. Thanks!
Amy
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pam sorooshian
"Birds fly, fish swim, man thinks and learns. Therefore, we do not need
to motivate children into learning by wheedling, bribing or bullying.
We do not need to keep picking away at their minds to make sure they
are learning. What we need to do, and all we need to do, is bring as
much of the world as we can into the school and classroom; give
children as much help and guidance as they ask for; listen respectfully
when they feel like talking; and then get out of the way. We can trust
them to do the rest." - John Holt in "How Children Learn"
to motivate children into learning by wheedling, bribing or bullying.
We do not need to keep picking away at their minds to make sure they
are learning. What we need to do, and all we need to do, is bring as
much of the world as we can into the school and classroom; give
children as much help and guidance as they ask for; listen respectfully
when they feel like talking; and then get out of the way. We can trust
them to do the rest." - John Holt in "How Children Learn"
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In a message dated 2/9/04 1:33:10 PM, arcarpenter@... writes:
<< > Fish swim, birds fly, humans learn.
<<Oh yeah, that's better than what I had. Thanks! >>
Kurt Vonnegut put it earlier (and slightly different <g>) in "The Book of
Bokonon," in Cat's Cradle:
Tiger got to hunt,
Bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder, "Why, why, why?"
Tiger got to sleep,
Bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.
<< > Fish swim, birds fly, humans learn.
<<Oh yeah, that's better than what I had. Thanks! >>
Kurt Vonnegut put it earlier (and slightly different <g>) in "The Book of
Bokonon," in Cat's Cradle:
Tiger got to hunt,
Bird got to fly;
Man got to sit and wonder, "Why, why, why?"
Tiger got to sleep,
Bird got to land;
Man got to tell himself he understand.
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In a message dated 2/9/2004 2:29:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
re-quoted somewhere. I hope you didn't go to too much trouble to look it up,
but I'm glad you posted the whole thing -- I think Holt has such a nice rhythm
to his writing (the content and the style, if that makes sense).
Peace,
Amy
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
> "Birds fly, fish swim, man thinks and learns. Therefore <snip>Thank you -- I haven't read How Children Learn yet, so I must have read this
re-quoted somewhere. I hope you didn't go to too much trouble to look it up,
but I'm glad you posted the whole thing -- I think Holt has such a nice rhythm
to his writing (the content and the style, if that makes sense).
Peace,
Amy
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In a message dated 2/9/2004 2:38:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
time -- might be time to dig it out again. Thanks for the quote!
Peace,
Amy
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> Kurt Vonnegut put it earlier (and slightly different <g>) in "The Book ofQuite differently, and totally Vonnegut. Haven't read Cat's Cradle in a long
> Bokonon," in Cat's Cradle:
>
> Tiger got to hunt,
> Bird got to fly;
> Man got to sit and wonder, "Why, why, why?"
>
> Tiger got to sleep,
> Bird got to land;
> Man got to tell himself he understand.
time -- might be time to dig it out again. Thanks for the quote!
Peace,
Amy
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pam sorooshian
On Feb 9, 2004, at 7:07 PM, arcarpenter@... wrote:
THAT doesn't make sense at all, I'm sure, to anybody but me! <G>
-pam
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> I think Holt has such a nice rhythmYes, it makes sense. It gives me a flowy kind of solid feeling. And
> to his writing (the content and the style, if that makes sense).
THAT doesn't make sense at all, I'm sure, to anybody but me! <G>
-pam
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<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
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In a message dated 2/9/04 10:39:24 PM, pamsoroosh@... writes:
<< > I think Holt has such a nice rhythm
THAT doesn't make sense at all, I'm sure, to anybody but me! <G> >>
He's writing conversationally, in his own voice, instead of using stilted
expositional jargon-filled teacherese. It sounds like a guy writing you a
letter, not like reading a textbook about learning.
Sandra
<< > I think Holt has such a nice rhythm
> to his writing (the content and the style, if that makes sense).<<Yes, it makes sense. It gives me a flowy kind of solid feeling. And
THAT doesn't make sense at all, I'm sure, to anybody but me! <G> >>
He's writing conversationally, in his own voice, instead of using stilted
expositional jargon-filled teacherese. It sounds like a guy writing you a
letter, not like reading a textbook about learning.
Sandra
wifetovegman2002
--- In [email protected], pam sorooshian
<pamsoroosh@m...> wrote:
That I matter, that I can do it, that he cares about my kids, that
if we were in a room together he would want to hear my thoughts,
that it is important to really listen to children and to give them
real information about the real world and real answers to their
questions, NOT dumbed down twaddle so that they will leave us alone
to do our important grown-up work.
Just something good, healing, and right about both men's writings.
If Dr. Sears was my first step toward gentle parenting, I guess Holt
and Rogers were my first steps to respectful parenting.
<pamsoroosh@m...> wrote:
>And
> On Feb 9, 2004, at 7:07 PM, arcarpenter@c... wrote:
>
> > I think Holt has such a nice rhythm
> > to his writing (the content and the style, if that makes sense).
>
> Yes, it makes sense. It gives me a flowy kind of solid feeling.
> THAT doesn't make sense at all, I'm sure, to anybody but me! <G>Holt always gives me the same feeling that Mr. Rogers did/does.
>
> -pam
That I matter, that I can do it, that he cares about my kids, that
if we were in a room together he would want to hear my thoughts,
that it is important to really listen to children and to give them
real information about the real world and real answers to their
questions, NOT dumbed down twaddle so that they will leave us alone
to do our important grown-up work.
Just something good, healing, and right about both men's writings.
If Dr. Sears was my first step toward gentle parenting, I guess Holt
and Rogers were my first steps to respectful parenting.
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In a message dated 2/9/2004 9:39:55 PM Pacific Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
with preconceived notions, but learned from observation. And solid, because as
open as he was, he was also rigorous and careful . . . and right! <g>
Peace,
Amy
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
> It gives me a flowy kind of solid feeling.Right -- flowy, because he was so open to what he saw -- he didn't come in
with preconceived notions, but learned from observation. And solid, because as
open as he was, he was also rigorous and careful . . . and right! <g>
Peace,
Amy
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Dawn Adams
Sandra Writes:
Dawn (in NS)
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>He's writing conversationally, in his own voice, instead of using stiltedI just read 'Teach Your Own', my first Holt book. I had o keep putting it down to get up and pace because he started so many thoughts and ideas in me. Gatto was sort of like that for me but his style was more an interesting lecture than a conversation. I didn't respond quite as much...and then he had his axe to grind about TV.
>expositional jargon-filled teacherese. It sounds like a guy writing you a
>letter, not like reading a textbook about learning.
Dawn (in NS)
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