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This is a story of a boy...and a science fiction novel...and a computer game.
And of a mother who is quietly doing handstands in her head (and planning a
vacation).

Liam had a busy end-of-week last week. Over 5 days, he did *nothing* but go
to 3 New Year's Eve parties, go to a 12 hour interactive military strategy
computer game party, devour a 300 page science fiction book called _Ender's
Game_, all interespersed with constant D&D playing to fill in whatever cracks were
left after eating and sleeping a couple of hours a night wherever he and his
friends happened to collapse. That's one heckuva wonderful, long holiday
weekend for a 15 year old. (Ah, for the days when I had that much energy!)

On his way home last night from this awesome weekend, all he could talk about
was the military strategy he'd been struck by in the novel he'd read, and how
he'd found ways to apply what he'd learned there to the computer strategy
game he'd played. He was fascinated, and insisted that I needed to read the
book, too. I'm not a fan of science fiction, but he was so enthused -- how could
I say no? So, I began reading it right away.

In the author's introduction, I found repeated references to Bruce Catton's
Civil War trilogy _The Army of the Potomac_, which apparently had had quite
some impact on the writer. I happened to have the trilogy in my library, so
while Liam was taking a shower, I *strewed* the books in front of his computer.
Soon, he was out, all excited, wondering where in the world I'd gotten these?
I've had them since I was your age, I explained. Round eyed wonder. <g>

He began to read the first book before going to sleep. (This being a boy who
was terribly damaged by ps, who has been actively deschooling in one way or
another for over 2 years, and who steadfastly refuses to read for information
-- as opposed to reading for pleasure.)

This morning, we were headed off to an activity, and he bubbled all the way
about military strategy again, wishing that Catton's book had diagrams of the
battles depicted. I offered to stop at the used bookstore on the way home to
look through their extensive military history section. Cool! (This from a boy
who hates, still, to go to the library, and spends his time at the bookstore
looking at graphic novels, comic books, and gaming manuals.)

So, shop we did. And hit the jackpot. A book of the history of US land
battles from the Civil War to the Gulf War, complete with diagrams, and a copy of
Sun Tzu's _The Art of War_, a centuries-old Chinese classic on military
strategy and philosophy that is still taught at West Point today. Liam was walking
on air as we left the store, and read snatches of Sun's book to me on the way
home.

He also borught up an old idea we've tossed around before about taking a
driving tour of Civil War battlefields, now expressing that he wanted to walk the
diagrams in the battle book. Accordingly, when I got on the computer at home
I found him some links and forwarded them. He's already working on a dream
sheet.

Me? I'm absolutely dizzy. From a science fiction novel to a computer
strategy game to a Civil War history classic to books on military strategy and
philosophy, to plans for a vacation to Civil War battlefields.

What a trip! Today...and to come.

(Have I told y'all lately how much I love unschooling?)

Laura B.


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pam sorooshian

On Jan 5, 2004, at 11:30 PM, LauraBourdo@... wrote:

> What a trip! Today...and to come.
>
> (Have I told y'all lately how much I love unschooling?)
>

Awesome!!!!

So - did you read the rest of the book?

-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.

Olga

Wow, Laura!
That is amazing and inspiring to me! I see things happening too and
it is so wonderful to have that concrete affirmation that I am doing
the right thing!

Olga :)
--- In [email protected], LauraBourdo@a... wrote:
> This is a story of a boy...and a science fiction novel...and a
computer game.
> And of a mother who is quietly doing handstands in her head (and
planning a
> vacation).
>
> Liam had a busy end-of-week last week. Over 5 days, he did
*nothing* but go
> to 3 New Year's Eve parties, go to a 12 hour interactive military
strategy
> computer game party, devour a 300 page science fiction book called
_Ender's
> Game_, all interespersed with constant D&D playing to fill in
whatever cracks were
> left after eating and sleeping a couple of hours a night wherever
he and his
> friends happened to collapse. That's one heckuva wonderful, long
holiday
> weekend for a 15 year old. (Ah, for the days when I had that much
energy!)
>
> On his way home last night from this awesome weekend, all he could
talk about
> was the military strategy he'd been struck by in the novel he'd
read, and how
> he'd found ways to apply what he'd learned there to the computer
strategy
> game he'd played. He was fascinated, and insisted that I needed
to read the
> book, too. I'm not a fan of science fiction, but he was so
enthused -- how could
> I say no? So, I began reading it right away.
>
> In the author's introduction, I found repeated references to Bruce
Catton's
> Civil War trilogy _The Army of the Potomac_, which apparently had
had quite
> some impact on the writer. I happened to have the trilogy in my
library, so
> while Liam was taking a shower, I *strewed* the books in front of
his computer.
> Soon, he was out, all excited, wondering where in the world I'd
gotten these?
> I've had them since I was your age, I explained. Round eyed
wonder. <g>
>
> He began to read the first book before going to sleep. (This
being a boy who
> was terribly damaged by ps, who has been actively deschooling in
one way or
> another for over 2 years, and who steadfastly refuses to read for
information
> -- as opposed to reading for pleasure.)
>
> This morning, we were headed off to an activity, and he bubbled
all the way
> about military strategy again, wishing that Catton's book had
diagrams of the
> battles depicted. I offered to stop at the used bookstore on the
way home to
> look through their extensive military history section. Cool!
(This from a boy
> who hates, still, to go to the library, and spends his time at the
bookstore
> looking at graphic novels, comic books, and gaming manuals.)
>
> So, shop we did. And hit the jackpot. A book of the history of
US land
> battles from the Civil War to the Gulf War, complete with
diagrams, and a copy of
> Sun Tzu's _The Art of War_, a centuries-old Chinese classic on
military
> strategy and philosophy that is still taught at West Point today.
Liam was walking
> on air as we left the store, and read snatches of Sun's book to me
on the way
> home.
>
> He also borught up an old idea we've tossed around before about
taking a
> driving tour of Civil War battlefields, now expressing that he
wanted to walk the
> diagrams in the battle book. Accordingly, when I got on the
computer at home
> I found him some links and forwarded them. He's already working
on a dream
> sheet.
>
> Me? I'm absolutely dizzy. From a science fiction novel to a
computer
> strategy game to a Civil War history classic to books on military
strategy and
> philosophy, to plans for a vacation to Civil War battlefields.
>
> What a trip! Today...and to come.
>
> (Have I told y'all lately how much I love unschooling?)
>
> Laura B.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dawn Adams

Laura writes:
>Me? I'm absolutely dizzy. From a science fiction novel to a computer
>strategy game to a Civil War history classic to books on military strategy and
>philosophy, to plans for a vacation to Civil War battlefields.

And what a Sci-Fi novel to start with! Ender's game is one of my favs...Your son has great taste

Dawn (in NS)


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/6/2004 2:33:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,
LauraBourdo@... writes:
to plans for a vacation to Civil War battlefields.

What a trip! Today...and to come.


Raising my hand, over here, over here!! We have fantastic battlefields and
encampments and re-creations of the battles in our area all the time. If you
need any information or help planning let me know. I live just north of
Fredericksburg, just east of Manassas, just north east of New Market, just south of
Gettysburg (well a little more than "just" south, a couple hours). LOTS of
civil war history all around and we really enjoy it.

glena who also loves seeing passion in her children's eyes!


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Elizabeth Roberts

Laura,

Whew! I'm dizzy too from reading that! I'm happy to hear he's found something that is so exciting to him!

MamaBeth

LauraBourdo@... wrote:
This is a story of a boy...and a science fiction novel...and a computer game.
And of a mother who is quietly doing handstands in her head (and planning a
vacation).

Liam had a busy end-of-week last week. Over 5 days, he did *nothing* but go
to 3 New Year's Eve parties, go to a 12 hour interactive military strategy
computer game party, devour a 300 page science fiction book called _Ender's
Game_, all interespersed with constant D&D playing to fill in whatever cracks were
left after eating and sleeping a couple of hours a night wherever he and his
friends happened to collapse. That's one heckuva wonderful, long holiday
weekend for a 15 year old. (Ah, for the days when I had that much energy!)

On his way home last night from this awesome weekend, all he could talk about
was the military strategy he'd been struck by in the novel he'd read, and how
he'd found ways to apply what he'd learned there to the computer strategy
game he'd played. He was fascinated, and insisted that I needed to read the
book, too. I'm not a fan of science fiction, but he was so enthused -- how could
I say no? So, I began reading it right away.

In the author's introduction, I found repeated references to Bruce Catton's
Civil War trilogy _The Army of the Potomac_, which apparently had had quite
some impact on the writer. I happened to have the trilogy in my library, so
while Liam was taking a shower, I *strewed* the books in front of his computer.
Soon, he was out, all excited, wondering where in the world I'd gotten these?
I've had them since I was your age, I explained. Round eyed wonder. <g>

He began to read the first book before going to sleep. (This being a boy who
was terribly damaged by ps, who has been actively deschooling in one way or
another for over 2 years, and who steadfastly refuses to read for information
-- as opposed to reading for pleasure.)

This morning, we were headed off to an activity, and he bubbled all the way
about military strategy again, wishing that Catton's book had diagrams of the
battles depicted. I offered to stop at the used bookstore on the way home to
look through their extensive military history section. Cool! (This from a boy
who hates, still, to go to the library, and spends his time at the bookstore
looking at graphic novels, comic books, and gaming manuals.)

So, shop we did. And hit the jackpot. A book of the history of US land
battles from the Civil War to the Gulf War, complete with diagrams, and a copy of
Sun Tzu's _The Art of War_, a centuries-old Chinese classic on military
strategy and philosophy that is still taught at West Point today. Liam was walking
on air as we left the store, and read snatches of Sun's book to me on the way
home.

He also borught up an old idea we've tossed around before about taking a
driving tour of Civil War battlefields, now expressing that he wanted to walk the
diagrams in the battle book. Accordingly, when I got on the computer at home
I found him some links and forwarded them. He's already working on a dream
sheet.

Me? I'm absolutely dizzy. From a science fiction novel to a computer
strategy game to a Civil War history classic to books on military strategy and
philosophy, to plans for a vacation to Civil War battlefields.

What a trip! Today...and to come.

(Have I told y'all lately how much I love unschooling?)

Laura B.


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I've saved the saga of Liam needing Civil War maps here:

http://sandradodd.com/strew/liammap

and it's linked from

http://sandradodd.com/strewing


Instead of making announcements like this every time I put up a page, I've
made an announcements list for updates to my website, or news on conference
speaking and related things.

You can send an e-mail to:

[email protected]

Or go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sandradodd/

And now I'll try to stop listing new pages here, because it fills the list up
with stuff some people don't care about.

Sandra

Tia Leschke

>
>Me? I'm absolutely dizzy. From a science fiction novel to a computer
>strategy game to a Civil War history classic to books on military strategy
>and
>philosophy, to plans for a vacation to Civil War battlefields.
>
>What a trip! Today...and to come.

Another wonderful story. Sounds like Liam and Lars are similar in some
ways. Thanks for posting it.
Tia

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/6/04 8:10:19 AM Central Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@...
writes:


> So - did you read the rest of the book?
>
>

Actually, I'm now welll into _Ender's Game_, but I've also started re-reading
Catton's history so that I'll remember what Liam's talking about.

I guess the library books will go back unread this week. <g>

Laura B.


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/6/04 10:01:14 AM Central Standard Time,
rubyprincesstsg@...
writes:


> Raising my hand, over here, over here!! We have fantastic battlefields and
> encampments and re-creations of the battles in our area all the time. If
> you
> need any information or help planning let me know. I live just north of
> Fredericksburg, just east of Manassas, just north east of New Market, just
> south of
> Gettysburg (well a little more than "just" south, a couple hours). LOTS of
> civil war history all around and we really enjoy it.
>

Wow, glena, thanks. I'll bookmark this message and probably get back to
you. :-)

Laura B.


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/6/04 5:57:19 PM, LauraBourdo@... writes:

<< Hoo-hoo!! We're famous! <g>

Thanks, Sandra. >>

Thank YOU for having a cool kid and for writing about that remarkable series
of connections!

[email protected]

In a message dated 1-6-2004 12:33:09 AM Mountain Standard Time,
LauraBourdo@... writes:
devour a 300 page science fiction book called _Ender's Game_
++++++++++++++++++++
I liked this book so much, I've avoided the sequels for fear of let down! I
hope you enjoy it too :) Your son is a true inspiration, I can't wait to hear
your updates!

OT: The same author wrote "Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus"
which I found fascinating and could spark a diversions into Spanish politics
of the late 1400s, boat making, time travel and past-changing... It sure did
in me! <bg>

diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The
latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to
hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." ~ Albert
Einstein


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Elizabeth Roberts

Hey..I JUST picked up "PastWatch" from the "Free" shelf at the library. I'd read Orson Scott Card's "Seventh Son" back when, and thought this one looked interesting.

MamaBeth

HaHaMommy@... wrote:
In a message dated 1-6-2004 12:33:09 AM Mountain Standard Time,
LauraBourdo@... writes:
devour a 300 page science fiction book called _Ender's Game_
++++++++++++++++++++
I liked this book so much, I've avoided the sequels for fear of let down! I
hope you enjoy it too :) Your son is a true inspiration, I can't wait to hear
your updates!

OT: The same author wrote "Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus"
which I found fascinating and could spark a diversions into Spanish politics
of the late 1400s, boat making, time travel and past-changing... It sure did
in me! <bg>

diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds. The
latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to
hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." ~ Albert
Einstein


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pam sorooshian

On Jan 7, 2004, at 7:07 PM, HaHaMommy@... wrote:

> I liked this book so much, I've avoided the sequels for fear of let
> down! I
> hope you enjoy it too :) Your son is a true inspiration, I can't wait
> to hear
> your updates!

The sequels are different - not quite as action-oriented, for the most
part. I still REALLY liked them - but they might not appeal to younger
kids as much. The other related series - the "shadow" books - starting
with "Ender's Shadow" is the same way - the first one more
action-oriented. I REALLY liked all of these too.
>
> OT: The same author wrote "Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher
> Columbus"
> which I found fascinating and could spark a diversions into Spanish
> politics
> of the late 1400s, boat making, time travel and past-changing... It
> sure did
> in me! <bg>

I just finished reading this one and found it really compelling. I
liked it very very much. VERY different kind of book from the Enders
series.

I also recently read his book called "Treasure Box" and it was again
very very different from any of the others. It is a ghost story - and
again very compelling characters and just a really different kind of
book!!

I'm wondering if any of you have read the Alvin Maker series? How is it?

I've gotten lots of the young teens in our homeschool group into
reading the Ender books recently - and some of their parents, too <G>.
Some great discussions happening based on them.

-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.

Dawn Adams

Mamabeth writes:
>Hey..I JUST picked up "PastWatch" from the "Free" shelf at the library. I'd read Orson> >Scott Card's "Seventh Son" back when, and thought this one looked interesting.

ALL of his stuff is good. He hardly ever misses.
Dawn (in NS)




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I sent Pam's post on Card's books to Keith, my husband, who says to tell you
that The Worthing Saga (a single book, not a series) is by far his favorite of
those books.

Sandra

Tia Leschke

>
>
>I'm wondering if any of you have read the Alvin Maker series? How is it?

It was a long time ago, but I remember really liking those.
Tia

Lisa M. Cottrell Bentley

I've read all of Orson Scott Card's books. I found the single (non series)
book "Enhantment" the best. He is a fabulous storyteller and even his women
from the Bible books are great stories. If you liked "Ender's Game", then
you really have to check out "Ender's Shadow". It is set at the exact same
time, same story, different person's (Bean's) perspective. I enjoyed all of
the Ender and Bean books, but the first ones are the best.

-Lisa in AZ

The Bucknum's

Laura, The Enders Game series (4 books)is a favourite around here and Orson Scot Cards other books are as well. Enchanted is a good take on sleeping beauty that even a guy could read and enjoy, the Alvin series Dh has only read the first book but said it's absolutely top notch (neither has anything to do with war strategy though). The Air to the empire by Timothy Zahn is the only other fiction he can think of with war strategy, it's part of the Star Wars series. He said The Art of War as well but you have that.

Teresa in Canada


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