Essays
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/12/2003 1:48:40 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
...when in the world is she going to need to write essays and such? I spent
quite a bit of time thinking out my objections to such writings in case it is
brought up again at the end of the year...
Personally, I feel that writing essays and argument papers was quite useful
to me on many levels. It helped me with critical thinking, logic,
organization, and also honing my general writing and vocabulary skills. I enjoyed writing
papers - it was probably the ONLY thing I liked about school. Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester of
college on through grad school.
How does this fit in with the unschooling philosophy? I have no idea. I do
think learning to write well (on a variety of topics) is a valuable skill,
whether one goes on to college or not.
Susan
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[email protected] writes:
...when in the world is she going to need to write essays and such? I spent
quite a bit of time thinking out my objections to such writings in case it is
brought up again at the end of the year...
Personally, I feel that writing essays and argument papers was quite useful
to me on many levels. It helped me with critical thinking, logic,
organization, and also honing my general writing and vocabulary skills. I enjoyed writing
papers - it was probably the ONLY thing I liked about school. Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester of
college on through grad school.
How does this fit in with the unschooling philosophy? I have no idea. I do
think learning to write well (on a variety of topics) is a valuable skill,
whether one goes on to college or not.
Susan
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Elizabeth Roberts
I did acknowledge writing for college, and particular occupations. I'm a writer myself, and my preferred format are essays. But I CHOOSE to write, and so developing my writing was something I wanted to do, and I sought out opportunities to do so; yet HATED as far as writing for school ie: writing on specific topics others wanted me to write about, how they wanted me to write them, etc. I write for one magazine that requests us to write in the AP style. I don't particularly care for it, but I choose to write for them, so I choose to write as they'd prefer.
But I'm not going to make her write just because someone else says she hasn't written enough essays or reports when it's not vital to her life right now. It may never be important to her. If it is, I'll do my best to help her develop her writing skills.
MamaBeth
rowan555@... wrote:
In a message dated 12/12/2003 1:48:40 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
...when in the world is she going to need to write essays and such? I spent
quite a bit of time thinking out my objections to such writings in case it is
brought up again at the end of the year...
Personally, I feel that writing essays and argument papers was quite useful
to me on many levels. It helped me with critical thinking, logic,
organization, and also honing my general writing and vocabulary skills. I enjoyed writing
papers - it was probably the ONLY thing I liked about school. Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester of
college on through grad school.
How does this fit in with the unschooling philosophy? I have no idea. I do
think learning to write well (on a variety of topics) is a valuable skill,
whether one goes on to college or not.
Susan
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But I'm not going to make her write just because someone else says she hasn't written enough essays or reports when it's not vital to her life right now. It may never be important to her. If it is, I'll do my best to help her develop her writing skills.
MamaBeth
rowan555@... wrote:
In a message dated 12/12/2003 1:48:40 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
...when in the world is she going to need to write essays and such? I spent
quite a bit of time thinking out my objections to such writings in case it is
brought up again at the end of the year...
Personally, I feel that writing essays and argument papers was quite useful
to me on many levels. It helped me with critical thinking, logic,
organization, and also honing my general writing and vocabulary skills. I enjoyed writing
papers - it was probably the ONLY thing I liked about school. Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester of
college on through grad school.
How does this fit in with the unschooling philosophy? I have no idea. I do
think learning to write well (on a variety of topics) is a valuable skill,
whether one goes on to college or not.
Susan
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Susan quotes:
when in the world is she going to need to write essays and such? I spent
quite a bit of time thinking out my objections to such writings in case it is
brought up again at the end of the year...
Susan responds
Personally, I feel that writing essays and argument papers was quite useful
to me on many levels. It helped me with critical thinking, logic,
organization, and also honing my general writing and vocabulary skills. I
enjoyed writing
papers - it was probably the ONLY thing I liked about school. Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been
much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester
of
college on through grad school.
How does this fit in with the unschooling philosophy? I have no idea. I do
think learning to write well (on a variety of topics) is a valuable skill,
whether one goes on to college or not.
~~~
Yeah, but I hardly ever wrote anything in high school if I could get away
with it. I didn't go to college. I started writing when I had something I
wanted to say, like a letter to the editor, after I became an adult and out on my
own. Now, my writing is not stellar; I don't consider myself "a writer", but
I can get my point across. People love my letters.
I don't think being forced to do it in high school necessarily prepares one
for writing in later life. You probably learned how to do it well in high
school because you enjoyed it.
Tuck
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when in the world is she going to need to write essays and such? I spent
quite a bit of time thinking out my objections to such writings in case it is
brought up again at the end of the year...
Susan responds
Personally, I feel that writing essays and argument papers was quite useful
to me on many levels. It helped me with critical thinking, logic,
organization, and also honing my general writing and vocabulary skills. I
enjoyed writing
papers - it was probably the ONLY thing I liked about school. Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been
much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester
of
college on through grad school.
How does this fit in with the unschooling philosophy? I have no idea. I do
think learning to write well (on a variety of topics) is a valuable skill,
whether one goes on to college or not.
~~~
Yeah, but I hardly ever wrote anything in high school if I could get away
with it. I didn't go to college. I started writing when I had something I
wanted to say, like a letter to the editor, after I became an adult and out on my
own. Now, my writing is not stellar; I don't consider myself "a writer", but
I can get my point across. People love my letters.
I don't think being forced to do it in high school necessarily prepares one
for writing in later life. You probably learned how to do it well in high
school because you enjoyed it.
Tuck
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Tia Leschke
>Maybe. I know a young woman who wanted to go to the community college at
>
>Personally, I feel that writing essays and argument papers was quite useful
>to me on many levels. It helped me with critical thinking, logic,
>organization, and also honing my general writing and vocabulary skills. I
>enjoyed writing
>papers - it was probably the ONLY thing I liked about school. Had I NOT
>written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been
>much
>less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first
>semester of
>college on through grad school.
age 16 because of their music program. She was a talented pianist, now an
opera singer. She had to take an English placement test, which was to
include writing an essay. She had never written anything but letters and
journal entries. She got a teacher to critique a couple of essays, then
took the test and got 96%.
Tia
Amber Riley-Loy
I just wanted to insert my 2 cents here. As a homeschooling mother of three I decided to attend my local community college to learn computer programming. The only class I had had any difficulty in was my college English class, I had no idea how to write an essay and I attended public school. It might be helpful to her to at least a week or two just learning what an essay requires just in case she does decide to go to college, even the people learning automotive repair here have to take one English essay writing class. It is up to you of course but I sure wish someone would have just spent a week when I was younger explaining how to write an essay.
Ammie
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Ammie
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/12/2003 3:38:33 PM Mountain Standard Time,
rowan555@... writes:
-=-Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been
much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester
of
college on through grad school.-=-
Maybe.
I wrote a lot too, in school, but I was good at it from early ages, so the
doing-for-years didn't make me better, it was just doing something I could do
without much effort and for great school-reward.
Holly reads better than some other kids her age. A year and some ago she
couldn't read.
Those who read as well as she does could say "that reading I've done for the
past five years prepared me to read as well as I do now."
I wouldn't press a child to write. Let them write.
I would help them find opportunities ift hey showed inclination, interest or
need.
Kirby said he was worried about the essay required for the GED. Three
paragraph essay. I told him what they meant by "three paragraph essay" and told him
which of his writing experiences had been the most essay-like, and looked up
a couple of previous GED topics.
Writing has lots of elements. Anything involving conversation,
storytelling, explanations, logic problems, organization, discussions, analysis,
comparison (of two movies, musical styles, houses, hairstyles) will help kids write
more easily when they find the need or urge to write.
Sandra
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rowan555@... writes:
-=-Had I NOT
written papers pretty regularly throughout high school, I would have been
much
less prepared for the rigorous writing routine I had from my first semester
of
college on through grad school.-=-
Maybe.
I wrote a lot too, in school, but I was good at it from early ages, so the
doing-for-years didn't make me better, it was just doing something I could do
without much effort and for great school-reward.
Holly reads better than some other kids her age. A year and some ago she
couldn't read.
Those who read as well as she does could say "that reading I've done for the
past five years prepared me to read as well as I do now."
I wouldn't press a child to write. Let them write.
I would help them find opportunities ift hey showed inclination, interest or
need.
Kirby said he was worried about the essay required for the GED. Three
paragraph essay. I told him what they meant by "three paragraph essay" and told him
which of his writing experiences had been the most essay-like, and looked up
a couple of previous GED topics.
Writing has lots of elements. Anything involving conversation,
storytelling, explanations, logic problems, organization, discussions, analysis,
comparison (of two movies, musical styles, houses, hairstyles) will help kids write
more easily when they find the need or urge to write.
Sandra
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[email protected]
Schools scare people about "essays."
They turn simple writing to yucky canned spinach.
The general term for writing which isn't fiction or poetry is "expository
writing."
It means you're telling people something. Letters, business writing,
technical writing, essays...
So an essay can be personal. It's not a report in the same way an accountant
reports or a doctor reports after a procedure. It can be funny, sad,
tricky, light, intense, and the author can say "I think..." and "It seems to me.."
and that kind of writing is some of the easiest to read and care about, for me
anyway.
Kirby wants his computer.
See ya'll tomorrow!
Sandra
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They turn simple writing to yucky canned spinach.
The general term for writing which isn't fiction or poetry is "expository
writing."
It means you're telling people something. Letters, business writing,
technical writing, essays...
So an essay can be personal. It's not a report in the same way an accountant
reports or a doctor reports after a procedure. It can be funny, sad,
tricky, light, intense, and the author can say "I think..." and "It seems to me.."
and that kind of writing is some of the easiest to read and care about, for me
anyway.
Kirby wants his computer.
See ya'll tomorrow!
Sandra
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Wife2Vegman
--- Amber Riley-Loy <ammieschool@...> wrote:
to help you before taking the course? There are
websites in how to write an essay (Guide to Writing a
Basic Essay
http://members.tripod.com/~lklivingston/essay/ ) which
a kid could use if they found they needed it or wanted
to learn, and it wouldn't even take a whole week, just
an afternoon.
Susan M. in Sterling,VA
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>Couldn't you have prepared yourself or asked someone
> It is up to
> you of course but I sure wish someone would have
> just spent a week when I was younger explaining how
> to write an essay.
>
> Ammie
to help you before taking the course? There are
websites in how to write an essay (Guide to Writing a
Basic Essay
http://members.tripod.com/~lklivingston/essay/ ) which
a kid could use if they found they needed it or wanted
to learn, and it wouldn't even take a whole week, just
an afternoon.
Susan M. in Sterling,VA
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Danielle E. Conger
I just checked the book "Is this your child?" out of the library, and I'm
getting ready to put ds on an elimination diet. He's 3.5 and has been
difficult since before he was born. He has a total Jekyll/ Hyde
personality, and I am never able to predict what is going to set it off,
know what I mean? He screams, hits, kicks, gets totally out of control as
if there is nothing he can do to stop himself. I can see the fear behind
his eyes when he does this, and it's awful! Then he's the sweetest little
boy, completely able to work through a frustrating situation, use his nice
words, negotiate, etc. I'm at my wits end!
I have been mentioning his extreme behavior to my pediatrician, who has
pooh-poohed the whole food allergy/ behavior connection for a year now.
SIGH So, I have decided to go it on my own because I just feel that it's
really worth giving it a shot.
I have been noticing how red-rimmed his ears get for months now, and his
cheeks get the bright red, chapped patches, too. I'm going to begin with
dairy. Going back in my head, the behavioral episodes, which are better and
worse at times, all seem to coincide with lots of bagels and cream cheese.
I know it could be wheat too, and I guess I will try that next. But, he's
gotten to the point where he'll just eat the cream cheese off the bagel and
leave the bagel itself. So, that makes me suspect that it's the dairy and
not the wheat.
At any rate, this is getting long, but I was hoping you guys might have
some words of wisdom, recipe tips, hints of things to look for, moral
support, etc. that you might be able to share as I begin this journey.
I am just so hoping that this will be the answer, you know? I just can't
bear the thought that this is something inside my son. SIGH It just seems
so much more than the terrible twos or threes that the doctor keeps telling
me it is.
Thanks for reading this far!
--danielle
getting ready to put ds on an elimination diet. He's 3.5 and has been
difficult since before he was born. He has a total Jekyll/ Hyde
personality, and I am never able to predict what is going to set it off,
know what I mean? He screams, hits, kicks, gets totally out of control as
if there is nothing he can do to stop himself. I can see the fear behind
his eyes when he does this, and it's awful! Then he's the sweetest little
boy, completely able to work through a frustrating situation, use his nice
words, negotiate, etc. I'm at my wits end!
I have been mentioning his extreme behavior to my pediatrician, who has
pooh-poohed the whole food allergy/ behavior connection for a year now.
SIGH So, I have decided to go it on my own because I just feel that it's
really worth giving it a shot.
I have been noticing how red-rimmed his ears get for months now, and his
cheeks get the bright red, chapped patches, too. I'm going to begin with
dairy. Going back in my head, the behavioral episodes, which are better and
worse at times, all seem to coincide with lots of bagels and cream cheese.
I know it could be wheat too, and I guess I will try that next. But, he's
gotten to the point where he'll just eat the cream cheese off the bagel and
leave the bagel itself. So, that makes me suspect that it's the dairy and
not the wheat.
At any rate, this is getting long, but I was hoping you guys might have
some words of wisdom, recipe tips, hints of things to look for, moral
support, etc. that you might be able to share as I begin this journey.
I am just so hoping that this will be the answer, you know? I just can't
bear the thought that this is something inside my son. SIGH It just seems
so much more than the terrible twos or threes that the doctor keeps telling
me it is.
Thanks for reading this far!
--danielle
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/12/2003 11:56:34 PM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
Kirby said he was worried about the essay required for the GED. Three
paragraph essay. I told him what they meant by "three paragraph essay" and
told him
which of his writing experiences had been the most essay-like, and looked up
a couple of previous GED topics.
~~~
Why is Kirby taking the GED?
At Thanksgiving I was blindsided by my sil, who said her 18 yo son can't get
a job because no one's accepting homeschool diplomas in their town. Her
daughter, who got pregnant at 17 and went to homeschooling in her last year of high
school, lost her job at Manpower because they wouldn't accept a homeschool
diploma. (She has 2 years of college, btw.) I understand the prejudice, but
I'm thinking my 19 yo son should probably get a GED just in case.
Curious why Kirby is doing it?
Tuck
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SandraDodd@... writes:
Kirby said he was worried about the essay required for the GED. Three
paragraph essay. I told him what they meant by "three paragraph essay" and
told him
which of his writing experiences had been the most essay-like, and looked up
a couple of previous GED topics.
~~~
Why is Kirby taking the GED?
At Thanksgiving I was blindsided by my sil, who said her 18 yo son can't get
a job because no one's accepting homeschool diplomas in their town. Her
daughter, who got pregnant at 17 and went to homeschooling in her last year of high
school, lost her job at Manpower because they wouldn't accept a homeschool
diploma. (She has 2 years of college, btw.) I understand the prejudice, but
I'm thinking my 19 yo son should probably get a GED just in case.
Curious why Kirby is doing it?
Tuck
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[email protected]
In a message dated 12/13/03 7:27:34 AM, wifetovegman2002@... writes:
<< Couldn't you have prepared yourself or asked someone
to help you before taking the course? There are
websites in how to write an essay (Guide to Writing a
Basic Essay
http://members.tripod.com/~lklivingston/essay/ ) which
a kid could use if they found they needed it or wanted
to learn, and it wouldn't even take a whole week, just
an afternoon. >>
I'm glad you wrote that. That was my thought too. It doesn't take someone
else playing teacher for a person to read sample essays or tips for writing
them. It takes google.com
Sandra
<< Couldn't you have prepared yourself or asked someone
to help you before taking the course? There are
websites in how to write an essay (Guide to Writing a
Basic Essay
http://members.tripod.com/~lklivingston/essay/ ) which
a kid could use if they found they needed it or wanted
to learn, and it wouldn't even take a whole week, just
an afternoon. >>
I'm glad you wrote that. That was my thought too. It doesn't take someone
else playing teacher for a person to read sample essays or tips for writing
them. It takes google.com
Sandra
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/13/03 9:50:58 AM, tuckervill2@... writes:
<< Why is Kirby taking the GED? >>
Because two of his homeschooled friends did and they're trying to talk him
into it. <g>
He might not, but he talked about it for a while and looked some stuff up,
and that's the only part that was scaring him.
<<lost her job at Manpower because they wouldn't accept a homeschool
diploma. (She has 2 years of college, btw.)>>
In a case like that it would be WELL worth doing. Bummer, about that.
<<Curious why Kirby is doing it?>>
It's a maybe not an "is," but after years of not having him tested and not
wanting others to even play-test him, I came up all bubbly with pressing him to
take it with no preparation at all--just go take it cold.
He took a test in driver's ed and only missed one.
But I was pushy and said "If you take it and pass that will be so cool!! And
if you fail, big deal--then you can study the parts you didn't do well on."
He was inclined to get a test book. Some people pay real money for
preparation courses. The kids said there are cheap-to-free prep classes in town. But
if he studies, he might think he only passed because he studied.
Then I heard myself and I was embarrassed and I shut up. <g>
Sandra
<< Why is Kirby taking the GED? >>
Because two of his homeschooled friends did and they're trying to talk him
into it. <g>
He might not, but he talked about it for a while and looked some stuff up,
and that's the only part that was scaring him.
<<lost her job at Manpower because they wouldn't accept a homeschool
diploma. (She has 2 years of college, btw.)>>
In a case like that it would be WELL worth doing. Bummer, about that.
<<Curious why Kirby is doing it?>>
It's a maybe not an "is," but after years of not having him tested and not
wanting others to even play-test him, I came up all bubbly with pressing him to
take it with no preparation at all--just go take it cold.
He took a test in driver's ed and only missed one.
But I was pushy and said "If you take it and pass that will be so cool!! And
if you fail, big deal--then you can study the parts you didn't do well on."
He was inclined to get a test book. Some people pay real money for
preparation courses. The kids said there are cheap-to-free prep classes in town. But
if he studies, he might think he only passed because he studied.
Then I heard myself and I was embarrassed and I shut up. <g>
Sandra
Wife2Vegman
--- "Danielle E. Conger" <danielle.conger@...>
wrote:
You might check out www.feingold.org and also Jane
Hersey's book "Why Can't My Child Behave?" (don't let
the title throw you, it isn't a discipline book at
all, it is about food allergies and how kids react
emotionally/physicallly to additives).
My kids have been on the Feingold Program for 10 years
now, and it has helped tremendously.
=====
--Susan in Sterling, VA
"In our every deliberation we must consider the impact
of our decisions on the next seven generations" -- The
Great Law of the Iroquois Confederacy
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wrote:
> I just checked the book "Is this your child?" out ofDanielle,
> the library, and I'm
> getting ready to put ds on an elimination diet.
>
>
> At any rate, this is getting long, but I was hoping
> you guys might have
> some words of wisdom, recipe tips, hints of things
> to look for, moral
> support, etc. that you might be able to share as I
> begin this journey.
>
> --danielle
You might check out www.feingold.org and also Jane
Hersey's book "Why Can't My Child Behave?" (don't let
the title throw you, it isn't a discipline book at
all, it is about food allergies and how kids react
emotionally/physicallly to additives).
My kids have been on the Feingold Program for 10 years
now, and it has helped tremendously.
=====
--Susan in Sterling, VA
"In our every deliberation we must consider the impact
of our decisions on the next seven generations" -- The
Great Law of the Iroquois Confederacy
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pam sorooshian
Roxana's first formal "essay" was for a community college class in the
history of opera. She was 14 years old. It was an in-class essay exam.
She was worried about it - partly about her bad handwriting and partly
that she thought there was some kind of mysterious format for essays
that she'd not know about and totally blow it.
I told her she could print (hers is still kind of childish looking
printing, but completely legible) and that the teacher would appreciate
it!!
For the essay structure, I just told her to include an introductory
paragraph where she says the main point and a little foreshadowing of
what's coming in the rest of the essay, then write paragraphs where
each has a main point plus backup and discussion about that point, and
finish with a conclusion that is clearly based on the main points and
sort of ties things back up to the intro.
I didn't want to give her more direction than that - because I AM a
college teacher and I hate reading those formulaic essays kids right
out of high school often write. BOOOOORING! Rox is a really good writer
and LOVES opera and has a lot to say about it. She got A+ on the essay.
She also took the college's English placement exam and qualified for
honors English. Totally unschooled kid - never had a writing lesson in
her life. She writes fan fiction a lot. She plays online role playing
games and writes detailed character descriptions. She writes on her
Live Journal and she emails and chats with friends online. She reads a
LOT and also does a lot of acting.
-pam
history of opera. She was 14 years old. It was an in-class essay exam.
She was worried about it - partly about her bad handwriting and partly
that she thought there was some kind of mysterious format for essays
that she'd not know about and totally blow it.
I told her she could print (hers is still kind of childish looking
printing, but completely legible) and that the teacher would appreciate
it!!
For the essay structure, I just told her to include an introductory
paragraph where she says the main point and a little foreshadowing of
what's coming in the rest of the essay, then write paragraphs where
each has a main point plus backup and discussion about that point, and
finish with a conclusion that is clearly based on the main points and
sort of ties things back up to the intro.
I didn't want to give her more direction than that - because I AM a
college teacher and I hate reading those formulaic essays kids right
out of high school often write. BOOOOORING! Rox is a really good writer
and LOVES opera and has a lot to say about it. She got A+ on the essay.
She also took the college's English placement exam and qualified for
honors English. Totally unschooled kid - never had a writing lesson in
her life. She writes fan fiction a lot. She plays online role playing
games and writes detailed character descriptions. She writes on her
Live Journal and she emails and chats with friends online. She reads a
LOT and also does a lot of acting.
-pam
On Dec 13, 2003, at 6:24 AM, Wife2Vegman wrote:
>
> --- Amber Riley-Loy <ammieschool@...> wrote:
>>
>> It is up to
>> you of course but I sure wish someone would have
>> just spent a week when I was younger explaining how
>> to write an essay.
>>
>> Ammie
>
>
> Couldn't you have prepared yourself or asked someone
> to help you before taking the course? There are
> websites in how to write an essay (Guide to Writing a
> Basic Essay
> http://members.tripod.com/~lklivingston/essay/ ) which
> a kid could use if they found they needed it or wanted
> to learn, and it wouldn't even take a whole week, just
> an afternoon.
>
> Susan M. in Sterling,VA
> wifetovegman
>
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In a message dated 12/13/2003 1:19:51 PM Mountain Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:
-=-For the essay structure, I just told her to include an introductory
paragraph where she says the main point and a little foreshadowing of
what's coming in the rest of the essay, then write paragraphs where
each has a main point plus backup and discussion about that point, and
finish with a conclusion that is clearly based on the main points and
sort of ties things back up to the intro.-=-
The GED test said "three paragraph essay," so the first thing I told Kirby
was not to worry, that they would give him a topic or a choice of topics. I
told him that in the first paragraph you tell them what you're going to say, in
the second paragraph you say it, and in the third one you tell them what you
said.
Boring and almost comical, but in classid "three paragraph essay" that's the
deal.
Sandra
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pamsoroosh@... writes:
-=-For the essay structure, I just told her to include an introductory
paragraph where she says the main point and a little foreshadowing of
what's coming in the rest of the essay, then write paragraphs where
each has a main point plus backup and discussion about that point, and
finish with a conclusion that is clearly based on the main points and
sort of ties things back up to the intro.-=-
The GED test said "three paragraph essay," so the first thing I told Kirby
was not to worry, that they would give him a topic or a choice of topics. I
told him that in the first paragraph you tell them what you're going to say, in
the second paragraph you say it, and in the third one you tell them what you
said.
Boring and almost comical, but in classid "three paragraph essay" that's the
deal.
Sandra
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pam sorooshian
Tell him this, too, just for the test. They don't get scored on how
brilliant and clever and intelligent they are - they are scored based
on a "take-away" system - you start with a certain number of points and
they subtract for spelling errors, grammatical errors, misused words,
etc. So - write with caution - no bonus for big words or subtle ideas -
write simple, not complex, sentences. If you aren't sure how to spell a
word, use a different word. If you're not sure if you need a comma -
change the sentence so you don't NEED a comma. And don't be creative -
just go with mundane answers.
-pam
brilliant and clever and intelligent they are - they are scored based
on a "take-away" system - you start with a certain number of points and
they subtract for spelling errors, grammatical errors, misused words,
etc. So - write with caution - no bonus for big words or subtle ideas -
write simple, not complex, sentences. If you aren't sure how to spell a
word, use a different word. If you're not sure if you need a comma -
change the sentence so you don't NEED a comma. And don't be creative -
just go with mundane answers.
-pam
On Dec 13, 2003, at 12:55 PM, SandraDodd@... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/13/2003 1:19:51 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> pamsoroosh@... writes:
> -=-For the essay structure, I just told her to include an introductory
> paragraph where she says the main point and a little foreshadowing of
> what's coming in the rest of the essay, then write paragraphs where
> each has a main point plus backup and discussion about that point, and
> finish with a conclusion that is clearly based on the main points and
> sort of ties things back up to the intro.-=-
>
>
> The GED test said "three paragraph essay," so the first thing I told
> Kirby
> was not to worry, that they would give him a topic or a choice of
> topics. I
> told him that in the first paragraph you tell them what you're going
> to say, in
> the second paragraph you say it, and in the third one you tell them
> what you
> said.
>
> Boring and almost comical, but in classid "three paragraph essay"
> that's the
> deal.
>
> Sandra
>
>
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In a message dated 12/13/2003 2:29:42 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
mentioned book. She gave a fantastic talk. She has also written other books,
notably Is This Your Child's World and Our Toxic World, which are about how
chemicals and environmental factors are hurting kids and adults. She is an MD
who is Board Certified in Pediatrics, Pediatric Allergy and Environmental
Medicine and is also a homeopath. She as a website, <A HREF="www.drrapp.com">www.drrapp.com</A>, which has lots
of info. Your son might be reacting to environmental stressors. At her website
is a link called "watch a video now" which she also showed at the lecture.
It's pretty fascinating stuff.
At the lecture she handed out cards with her email address and phone numbers.
Email me offlist if you're interested and I'll send them to you.
HTH,
Mary S.
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[email protected] writes:
> I just checked the book "Is this your child?" out of the libraryLast month I attended a lecture by Dr. Doris Rapp, the author of the above
>
>
mentioned book. She gave a fantastic talk. She has also written other books,
notably Is This Your Child's World and Our Toxic World, which are about how
chemicals and environmental factors are hurting kids and adults. She is an MD
who is Board Certified in Pediatrics, Pediatric Allergy and Environmental
Medicine and is also a homeopath. She as a website, <A HREF="www.drrapp.com">www.drrapp.com</A>, which has lots
of info. Your son might be reacting to environmental stressors. At her website
is a link called "watch a video now" which she also showed at the lecture.
It's pretty fascinating stuff.
At the lecture she handed out cards with her email address and phone numbers.
Email me offlist if you're interested and I'll send them to you.
HTH,
Mary S.
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Crystal
I told him that in the first paragraph you tell them what you're
going to say, in the second paragraph you say it, and in the third
one you tell them what you said.
Boring and almost comical, but in classic "three paragraph essay"
that's the deal.
****************************
This is how I learned to write a cover letter for my resume. First
paragraph, tell them what you want and where you heard about it,
second paragraph tell them what you can do, third paragraph tell them
again what you want and also how they can reach you. A simple
formula that always got me an interview.
Crystal
going to say, in the second paragraph you say it, and in the third
one you tell them what you said.
Boring and almost comical, but in classic "three paragraph essay"
that's the deal.
****************************
This is how I learned to write a cover letter for my resume. First
paragraph, tell them what you want and where you heard about it,
second paragraph tell them what you can do, third paragraph tell them
again what you want and also how they can reach you. A simple
formula that always got me an interview.
Crystal
Dawn Adams
Ammie writes;
Dawn (hungover in NS...DH's staff Xmas party last night)
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>It is up to you of course but I sure wish someone would have just spent a week when I was >younger explaining how to write an essay.It doesn't take a week. My 9th grade english teacher said one day that an essay needs an introduction, bodt and conclusion and that moment taught me all I needed. Well...aside from years and years of reading fiction, newspapers and magazines. :)
Dawn (hungover in NS...DH's staff Xmas party last night)
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> I have been mentioning his extreme behavior to my pediatrician, who hasOur pediatrician actually inadvertently pointed me in the direction of
> pooh-poohed the whole food allergy/ behavior connection for a year now.
> SIGH So, I have decided to go it on my own because I just feel that it's
> really worth giving it a shot.
>
Fiengold because he kept mentioning my son's chemical sensitivity. Poor Nathan has
trouble with sunscreens, bug sprays, most soaps and shampoos, cleaning
products IN ADDITION to food. Peanuts and highly processed corn are his main
allergies.
We've been following Feingold for a while, adapting it to fit our needs. We
dont' see the sensitivity to preservatives as much as to coloring and
flavoring. Anything artificial in those directions makes him a bit, well, crazed. We
do eat processed foods sometimes and deal with the consequences. He's five
now and understands how it makes him feel inside, but will want a lollipop
occasionally. I will say, though, that some of the perceived behavioral issues
come from him being the age he is. What has been helped with the awareness of
his sensitivities is the "over the top" reactions to situations.
I'd do an elimination diet and keep a diary if you suspect some traditional
dairy, wheat kinds of allergies. From what I've read, most of the behavioral
reactions come from artificial ingredients. But you were describing some
physical reactions as well, so you might have the double whammy combo that we
have. It's not that hard to work around once you know what foods cause a problem.
Our household tries to be free of peanuts, tree nuts, corn syrup, corn
starch, artificial food coloring and flavoring, celery (that's mine) and perfumed
or scented products.
It's worth a shot. Pediatricians seem to have a hard time believing parents
when there is something not quite right. I took my four year old daughter in
on Friday, convinced she had a bladder infection. The nurses and probably
even the doctor were rolling their eyes thinking I was just another mom who
couldn't believe her little angel would have wetting accidents. Turns out I was
right, after insisting on providing a sample. Not that it's a good thing for
her to have an infection, it is pretty rare in little kids and there might be an
anatomical reason for it.
Rambling. Sorry. It's the pregnancy.
Elizabeth in IL
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