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The press in this country is only as free as the right wing conservatives
that own it allow it to be.
Janis

This statement stunned me, because I had never considered the press in this
country to be right-winged conservatives. I had always considered it the
opposite-left-wing radicals. The only conservative I've seen on tv is Bill
O'Reilly, who calls himself an independent but most of his views, in my opinion, are
conservative. Just to help me stretch beyond my current thinking, could you
back that statement up with some examples? And please don't say Dan Rather-I
consider him an acute liberalist. I'm not asking this for sake of arguement
but for another point of view to consider. Thanks.

Carol

Dawn Adams

I think whether the press seems right or left depends on where you stand. I'm a pinko commie left-wing socialist so I see a right wing press. :)
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The press in this country is only as free as the right wing conservatives
that own it allow it to be.
Janis

This statement stunned me, because I had never considered the press in this
country to be right-winged conservatives. I had always considered it the
opposite-left-wing radicals. The only conservative I've seen on tv is Bill
O'Reilly, who calls himself an independent but most of his views, in my opinion, are
conservative. Just to help me stretch beyond my current thinking, could you
back that statement up with some examples? And please don't say Dan Rather-I
consider him an acute liberalist. I'm not asking this for sake of arguement
but for another point of view to consider. Thanks.

Carol


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Shyrley

Halo5964@... wrote:

>The press in this country is only as free as the right wing conservatives
>that own it allow it to be.
>Janis
>
>This statement stunned me, because I had never considered the press in this
>country to be right-winged conservatives. I had always considered it the
>opposite-left-wing radicals. The only conservative I've seen on tv is Bill
>O'Reilly, who calls himself an independent but most of his views, in my opinion, are
>conservative. Just to help me stretch beyond my current thinking, could you
>back that statement up with some examples? And please don't say Dan Rather-I
>consider him an acute liberalist. I'm not asking this for sake of arguement
>but for another point of view to consider. Thanks.
>
>Carol
>
>
>
Anne Coulter?
Sean Hannity?
All of Fox 5?
Republican owned Washington Times and New York Post.

Shyrley

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At 02:41 PM 11/10/2003, Dawn Adams wrote:

>I think whether the press seems right or left depends on where you stand.
>I'm a pinko commie left-wing socialist so I see a right wing press. :)
> ----- Original Message -----

Interesting. I'm a market anarchist so I see a corporate-statist press.

Maybe what we have is a Rorschoch press?


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coyote's corner

The papers in this area SE New England)- except for a couple of the small local papers are all very definitely Republican owned.

BTW - that quote is a rather well known one. I can't recall the name of the person that said it.
Janis
----- Original Message -----
From: Shyrley
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] freedom of the press




Halo5964@... wrote:

>The press in this country is only as free as the right wing conservatives
>that own it allow it to be.
>Janis
>
>This statement stunned me, because I had never considered the press in this
>country to be right-winged conservatives. I had always considered it the
>opposite-left-wing radicals. The only conservative I've seen on tv is Bill
>O'Reilly, who calls himself an independent but most of his views, in my opinion, are
>conservative. Just to help me stretch beyond my current thinking, could you
>back that statement up with some examples? And please don't say Dan Rather-I
>consider him an acute liberalist. I'm not asking this for sake of arguement
>but for another point of view to consider. Thanks.
>
>Carol
>
>
>
Anne Coulter?
Sean Hannity?
All of Fox 5?
Republican owned Washington Times and New York Post.

Shyrley


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coyote's corner

Great point!
Janis
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Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] freedom of the press


I think whether the press seems right or left depends on where you stand. I'm a pinko commie left-wing socialist so I see a right wing press. :)
----- Original Message -----



The press in this country is only as free as the right wing conservatives
that own it allow it to be.
Janis

This statement stunned me, because I had never considered the press in this
country to be right-winged conservatives. I had always considered it the
opposite-left-wing radicals. The only conservative I've seen on tv is Bill
O'Reilly, who calls himself an independent but most of his views, in my opinion, are
conservative. Just to help me stretch beyond my current thinking, could you
back that statement up with some examples? And please don't say Dan Rather-I
consider him an acute liberalist. I'm not asking this for sake of arguement
but for another point of view to consider. Thanks.

Carol


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Bishop in NH????


----- Original Message -----
From: KathrynJB@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:37 AM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: freedom of the press


In a message dated 11/11/2003 3:38:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
I think whether the press seems right or left depends on where you stand. I'm
a pinko commie left-wing socialist so I see a right wing press. :)
Hey Dawn....I'm a pinko commie left-wing socialist DYKE, so I see a
homophobic right wing press...

Do you think we're paranoid, or is everyone really our to get us? Or maybe
both...

Kathryn, who is having a very bad week, and is thinking about sending cookies
to that poor Bishop in NH


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Shyrley

coyote's corner wrote:

>Bishop in NH????
>
>
>
>
The gay one who was ordained last week. Don't you read the pinko commie
press?
;-)

Shyrley

coyote's corner

Isn't it all so backward??
Two schools in RI (so far) have had to rush kids out because of contaminants. Our voting machines are rigged. There will not be any large fish in the ocean in ten years. There's a move on to drill for oil in the soon to be privatized national parks. More people are dying everyday in the name of greed and the "theology of consumerism" - yet who someone loves is at issue.
I thought that was a done deal. Really, who cares who someone loves? Or how? or why?
Diversionary tactics?
BTW - which are the pinko commie newspapers??
Janis

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To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:24 AM
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coyote's corner wrote:

>Bishop in NH????
>
>
>
>
The gay one who was ordained last week. Don't you read the pinko commie
press?
;-)

Shyrley


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Dawn Adams

> Hey Dawn....I'm a pinko commie left-wing socialist DYKE, so I see a
>homophobic right wing press...

>Do you think we're paranoid, or is everyone really our to get us? Or maybe
>both...

>Kathryn, who is having a very bad week, and is thinking about sending cookies
>to that poor Bishop in NH

A dyke too? Damn, you've got me beat! ;) My pinko commie status has only been a recent revelation though, before that I was a card carrying right winger and the press seemed way too soft on the left.

Dawn, who feels for that Bishop too but is sure glad he had the guts to go through with what he has.


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Shyrley

coyote's corner wrote:

>Isn't it all so backward??
>Two schools in RI (so far) have had to rush kids out because of contaminants. Our voting machines are rigged. There will not be any large fish in the ocean in ten years. There's a move on to drill for oil in the soon to be privatized national parks. More people are dying everyday in the name of greed and the "theology of consumerism" - yet who someone loves is at issue.
>I thought that was a done deal. Really, who cares who someone loves? Or how? or why?
>Diversionary tactics?
>BTW - which are the pinko commie newspapers??
>Janis
>
>
>
Actually there aren't any. Unless you count Earth First.
Which is seriously depressing :-(

Shyrley

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In a message dated 11/11/03 8:50:59 AM, jana@... writes:

<< Bishop in NH???? >>

If it's not about unschooling and it's something you could look up on google,
could you do that please instead of taking up the list's time with what you
could have read easily if you weren't paranoid about the press?

Sandra

coyote's corner

You are so out of line.
You are so rude.

Goodbye.
Janis
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:06 AM
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In a message dated 11/11/03 8:50:59 AM, jana@... writes:

<< Bishop in NH???? >>

If it's not about unschooling and it's something you could look up on google,
could you do that please instead of taking up the list's time with what you
could have read easily if you weren't paranoid about the press?

Sandra

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In a message dated 11/11/03 9:53:01 AM, jana@... writes:

<< You are so out of line.
You are so rude.

Goodbye.
Janis >>

If it's out of line for a list owner to ask people to keep to the topic and
to follow the posting guidelines, the world is in bad shape.

3. When differences of opinion arise, stick to discussing ideas, not the
person with whom you are disagreeing.


5. Before you hit "send," consider whether your post will contribute
positively to the unschooling discussion.

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