Mary Rainer

data conforms to opinion in regards to its presentation
the cup is 1/2 full
the cup is half empty
both are opinions, in this case both are accurate
often times differing opinions can both be accurate in my view,

editorial, documentary whatever, Michael Moore, Fox, CNN, its all presented to us- to argue regarding opinion or data would be semantics I think?

please excuse my hasty comment to your reply to me Sandra, it seems perhaps I am a bit defensive,
I turned off the computer and it kept bothering me, I couldnt believe your comment upset me, why did it?
Im not sure, anyways,
Im pretty familiar with the whole tv argument, several sides of it anyways, I think the data and opinions, shows and commercials are like the glass of water, its all in how you see it
for me its about choice and the ability to choose what works best for me, and my kids, but when I said I dont watch anything else doesnty mean my kids dont, they see it everywhere...media is entrenched in our society,

I think consciousness may be key,
I think if you are conscious when you watch(or type or eat or whatever) then you retain a clearer ability to choose and perceive objectively, but how many of us really remain conscious when watching tv? Its like getting a massage, and I prefer to choose who I allow to massage my brain,

~marymom






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nellebelle

I think if you are conscious when you watch(or type or eat or whatever) then you retain a clearer ability to choose and perceive objectively, but how many of us really remain conscious when watching tv?>>>>>>

I remain conscious when I watch TV. I'm pretty sure my kids do too, since they have so many things to say about what they watch on TV.

Dh, well, he has trained himself to fall asleep on the couch with the TV so loud that I can hear the dialogue from another room. He doesn't seem to notice when I or the girls tiptoe out, slip the remote out of his hand, and lower the volume. So I guess you are right that some people do not remain conscious while watching TV. <g>

Mary Ellen

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pam sorooshian

On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 11:03 AM, nellebelle wrote:

> I think if you are conscious when you watch(or type or eat or
> whatever) then you retain a clearer ability to choose and perceive
> objectively, but how many of us really remain conscious when watching
> tv?

My kids would have a good laugh at this last line since I'm famous for
falling sound asleep during movies. Did it last night. I do it often.

But - nobody around here actually watches in that zombie-like state
that people so often describe. We choose our tv just like we choose
our email lists and our books and our other occupations.

-pam

pam sorooshian

Ted Ringer's Secret School of Writing is an online writing course.

If you liked Natalie Goldberg's "Writing Down the Bones," then Secret
School might be something you'd really enjoy. Ted studied and taught
with Natalie Goldberg in New Mexico. He has some of his poetry in the
"Magnetic Poetry Book of Poetry" and has published a novel called,"Get
Outta Town."

My 18 yo loved Secret School a couple of years ago and just reminded me
of it because she decided to re-enroll.

<www.secretschool.com>


-pam

Pam Hartley

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> But - nobody around here actually watches in that zombie-like state
> that people so often describe. We choose our tv just like we choose
> our email lists and our books and our other occupations.


My husband watches TV more than any of us, typically. Not only is he not
unconscious of what he's looking at, he's an inveterate channel-flipper,
LOL. The anti-zombie!

Pam