nellebelle

I need some help in getting my house more organized. I'm de-choring and working on accepting the fact that it will never be house beautiful. However, I am frustrated with it always looking sooo messy. I am hoping that some reorganization will help the house look wonderfully lived in, rather than as if a tornado just hit. We don't have a family room.

Each girl has her own room, tho they both sleep together in the one with the double bed. The rooms are good size 12x12. Closets are pretty standard. Each closet has two low shelves and a hanging shoe rack.

Clothing is more or less under control, but I could use some ideas for how to store/display dolls, craft supplies/kits, and stuffed animals.

There is a small bathroom in between the rooms, which is also the guest bathroom, due to it's location. The counter is tiny. I hung an organizer on the back of the door, which helps a lot for assorted "beauty supplies". Towels fit under the sink, but not much more. There is a laundry basket and a basket of reading material in there. We have a stool in there, but it occurs to me that they don't really need that anymore.

We have a small office with 3 desks and a piano. Each girl has a box and a file box, but still stuff ends up piled all over the floor. A small bookshelf hosts the printer, art supplies, and office supplies.

I think we may have too much furniture, or perhaps just the wrong types. To me, the house looks like it is wall to wall furniture. A lot of it is antique mix and match stuff that was acquired through my in-laws auction or hand me downs from his folks or mine. When I think about rearranging, I end up going in circles because anyplace I think to move something, already has something there. Dh is very attached to most of the furniture. I've suggested selling some of the pieces that we don't really use, but haven't gotten very far with that idea.

My budget is limited, so I can't go out and buy too much to help with this project. The garage is already stuffed. I'm thinking about storing some things under the house. It stays dry, but is really dusty.

Any ideas? Anybody want to share things you've done to increase storage or better organize yours and your kid's stuff?

Mary Ellen

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Robyn Coburn

<<I need some help in getting my house more organized. >>



I'm not being facetious - what about getting on one of those TV makeover
shows - like "Clean House" (Style Network) or "Organize This" (HGTV?) -
that specialize in helping people declutter and reorganize, rather than
just redecorate.

Robyn Coburn



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nellebelle

That would be so cool! Lisa saw an ad for one that sends the parents out of town, then redoes the kid's room. I'll see if I can find that. It sounds like a WIN WIN situation!

Mary Ellen

----- Original Message ----- I'm not being facetious - what about getting on one of those TV makeover
shows - like "Clean House" (Style Network) or "Organize This" (HGTV?) -
that specialize in helping people declutter and reorganize, rather than
just redecorate.

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Mary

I have a fairly large house so not sure if any of this will help. But when
the 5 of us were in a much smaller house, I still made it all work and
things were rather organized.

I make a point to go through clothes at least twice a year and get rid of
things too small and those that are never worn, no matter if they fit or
not. I do the same thing with other closets, drawers and storage spaces. I
get rid of anything not used within 6 months. (holiday decorations aside)
I'll consign, sell or give things away that aren't used. It's just not worth
them taking up space. And I find most homes have tons of stuff in them that
are hardly ever used. I don't believe in keeping something just in case it's
needed.

The other thing I love is storage crates and bins for the childrens things.
Both Joseph and Sierra have wooden shelving with plastic bins that go into
the shelving. Joseph keeps his in his room and Sierra's is in the playroom.
There are 4 rows with 3 open bins on each one. It's easy to throw toys in
and yet keep certain ones separate.

We also have a stack of 3 plastic crates that are on wheels. Open also. Bins
with lids makes it harder to get things in and out. I have also bought
individual plastic crates that can stack and keep various things in them for
the kids. Not really big on shelves although we have one large set in the
playroom. I love the plastic storage bins for under the bed also. Each child
has two under their beds.

They take up small amounts of space and you can get tons of things in them
without making them so cluttered the kids don't want to play with what's
inside.

Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com

Nora or Devereaux Cannon

A couple of things occur to me from what you posted. First
would the girls be able to share the one bed room as a bedroom,
while converting the other to play/workspace of their own? 4
desks and a piano in one room is an invitation to feeling
clutter. If you can consolidate the bedrooms, take the non
sleeping one and add lots of shelves, with plastic see through
bins for storage. It is easy to take a bin of all the clay
supplies or all the doll clothes down and use it where ever the
mood strikes. And it is easy to put them all back in the bin
from which they came. Zip lock Freezer bags are a great adjunct
to those, for further sub dividing. Also look at where
"clutter" accumulates and what the clutter is. A box and a file
drawer may not be useful ways to organize what they are doing at
their desks - evaluating what doesn't make it back to the box
might help. A bulletin board might work better for them - or a
vertical file holder - or an empty shelf for more acceptable
temporary storage than the floor provides.

We have a bin of "display items" for dd's room (actually for a
number of rooms, but we are talking about kids, LOL). There is
limited space for "knick-knacks" so the bin lets her rotate the
display and also holds holiday specific objects so she can
re-decorate for the season at will. A duffle bag hanging in the
closet holds a wonderful number of stuffed animals too beloved
to part with but too numerous to display.

Would a vanity in the bedroom reduce the need for beauty
supplies in the bathroom - and the storage problem? All that is
really necessary for a vanity is a small console table and a
mirror - light strips are nice, but if you cover the table with
a froth of pretty girl fabric and put a similarly draped stool
in from of it, it will meet the needs until serious make up
application is underway. Get a piece of glass cut to match the
size of the top, then let them arrange some brushes, hand
mirrors and perfumes on top - the rest goes in a caddy under the
table - one for each. I call mine, rescued from a far too small
to be useful linen closet, my altar to estrogen, LOL. Quite
importantly for my messiness, there is something sorta charming
about spilled powder on a vanity that is entirely missing when
powder is spilled on the sink counter and left.

----- Original Message -----
From: "nellebelle" <nellebelle@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 5:55 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Childrens rooms


| I need some help in getting my house more organized. I'm
de-choring and working on accepting the fact that it will never
be house beautiful. However, I am frustrated with it always
looking sooo messy. I am hoping that some reorganization will
help the house look wonderfully lived in, rather than as if a
tornado just hit. We don't have a family room.
|
| Each girl has her own room, tho they both sleep together in
the one with the double bed. The rooms are good size 12x12.
Closets are pretty standard. Each closet has two low shelves
and a hanging shoe rack.
|
| Clothing is more or less under control, but I could use some
ideas for how to store/display dolls, craft supplies/kits, and
stuffed animals.
|
| There is a small bathroom in between the rooms, which is also
the guest bathroom, due to it's location. The counter is tiny.
I hung an organizer on the back of the door, which helps a lot
for assorted "beauty supplies". Towels fit under the sink, but
not much more. There is a laundry basket and a basket of
reading material in there. We have a stool in there, but it
occurs to me that they don't really need that anymore.
|
| We have a small office with 3 desks and a piano. Each girl
has a box and a file box, but still stuff ends up piled all over
the floor. A small bookshelf hosts the printer, art supplies,
and office supplies.
|
| I think we may have too much furniture, or perhaps just the
wrong types. To me, the house looks like it is wall to wall
furniture. A lot of it is antique mix and match stuff that was
acquired through my in-laws auction or hand me downs from his
folks or mine. When I think about rearranging, I end up going
in circles because anyplace I think to move something, already
has something there. Dh is very attached to most of the
furniture. I've suggested selling some of the pieces that we
don't really use, but haven't gotten very far with that idea.
|
| My budget is limited, so I can't go out and buy too much to
help with this project. The garage is already stuffed. I'm
thinking about storing some things under the house. It stays
dry, but is really dusty.
|
| Any ideas? Anybody want to share things you've done to
increase storage or better organize yours and your kid's stuff?
|
| Mary Ellen
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Mary

Forgot one other thing that I love for the stuffed animals. The nets that
hang from above in the corner of a room. If there are a lot of animals, you
can hang a few, still have them displayed and easily accessible and yet
still out of the way.

Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com

Olga

Mary Ellen,

Our old house was really small and we had lots of big furniture
(everyone's hand-me-downs). Minimizing furniture and clutter madea
huge difference. Are you a pack rat? Because that breeds clutter.
I would start with a major "spring cleaning" to at least reduce your
piles. It is painful, but it changes your enviornment more than
anything.

My sons' old room had them and all their stuff. We bought the cheap
white armoire/cabinet from home depot for about $100 (the really big
one). I bought bins and put the majority of toys in there and a
shelf in the closet and under the bed. This way the clutter was not
noticable. Just having doors on things makes the mess go away! For
arts and crafts supplies hang a plastic shoe rack/holder over the
door and you can put all the things in the pockets. Same for the
bathroom which can hold lots of little things the girls need
(barettes, toothpaste, lotions, etc.) Also, you can build a shelf
in their rooms that goes across the perimeter of the room way up
high for all the stuffed animals and toys they don't play with
much. That way it acts more as decor and less as mess. For the
bathroom, buy a magazine rack to hang on the wall and use some of
that vertical space instead of a basket taking up floor space.
People forget the vertical space, but even for there dolls it may
help to hang a few shelves (maybe 3) where they can place them when
they are not playing with them and that way they are not cluttering
up the floor.

The big lesson I learned was to buy very practical furniture. No
glass tables, everything with some storage. This way the majority
of furniture is dual functioning. It looks nice and hides things!
You can put large baskets under the coffee or end tables for storage
as well.

I hope this helps a bit!!

Olga :)

--- In [email protected], "nellebelle"
<nellebelle@c...> wrote:
> I need some help in getting my house more organized. I'm de-
choring and working on accepting the fact that it will never be
house beautiful. However, I am frustrated with it always looking
sooo messy. I am hoping that some reorganization will help the
house look wonderfully lived in, rather than as if a tornado just
hit. We don't have a family room.
>
> Each girl has her own room, tho they both sleep together in the
one with the double bed. The rooms are good size 12x12. Closets
are pretty standard. Each closet has two low shelves and a hanging
shoe rack.
>
> Clothing is more or less under control, but I could use some ideas
for how to store/display dolls, craft supplies/kits, and stuffed
animals.
>
> There is a small bathroom in between the rooms, which is also the
guest bathroom, due to it's location. The counter is tiny. I hung
an organizer on the back of the door, which helps a lot for
assorted "beauty supplies". Towels fit under the sink, but not much
more. There is a laundry basket and a basket of reading material in
there. We have a stool in there, but it occurs to me that they
don't really need that anymore.
>
> We have a small office with 3 desks and a piano. Each girl has a
box and a file box, but still stuff ends up piled all over the
floor. A small bookshelf hosts the printer, art supplies, and
office supplies.
>
> I think we may have too much furniture, or perhaps just the wrong
types. To me, the house looks like it is wall to wall furniture. A
lot of it is antique mix and match stuff that was acquired through
my in-laws auction or hand me downs from his folks or mine. When I
think about rearranging, I end up going in circles because anyplace
I think to move something, already has something there. Dh is very
attached to most of the furniture. I've suggested selling some of
the pieces that we don't really use, but haven't gotten very far
with that idea.
>
> My budget is limited, so I can't go out and buy too much to help
with this project. The garage is already stuffed. I'm thinking
about storing some things under the house. It stays dry, but is
really dusty.
>
> Any ideas? Anybody want to share things you've done to increase
storage or better organize yours and your kid's stuff?
>
> Mary Ellen
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[email protected]

When our kids were young and sharing a room, we couldn't afford cool plastic
bins, but what we did was my husband made a shelf designed to hold Xerox
boxes, which we could get free. We would put a picture of the kind of toy that
went in there on the box, and use them kind of like drawers. The shelf was low
enough to go under the window, strong enough for toddler boys to climb up on,
and so they had the top to put stuff on, and there was the base (enclosed so
toys wouldn't go under) and two shelves, and a middle divider. It could hold
twelve Xerox boxes, end in. Usually it was some xerox boxes and some toys with
their own boxes, or things stuffed in. When a box wore out, we could
replace it with a better box. A box could be pulled and and taken into the living
room or into the yard, left there a while, used for storage in there, and then
pickup, and eventually taken back to the shelf.

That shelf is now in my sewing room, as we're in a bigger house and the kids
have their own rooms with other shelves and systems.

We still have some of those boxes, or their successors, with the same stuff
in:

"the costume box" (not lives on a really high shelf, but still comes down a
few times a year==Kirby mined it for pirate parts before the anime convention
last month)

the dinosaur box (we pulled a two-headed dragon out of there as part of a
gift for a party Holly went to in August==it never was a dinosaur anyway, but it
was closer to that than other box-contents)

The puppet box survives, still, full of hand puppets. It's in a shared
storage room, near the costumes.

the doll box

We have three boxes of "McDonald toys" now lidded and stacked. We never used
to use lids on the shelf--I have another shelf in my office which was
designed to hold box lids, and I could sort projects so that I could clean and mess
up my desk with different sets of stuff.

Sandra

[email protected]

In a message dated 10/11/03 10:01:39 PM, mccluskieo@... writes:

<< The big lesson I learned was to buy very practical furniture. No

glass tables, everything with some storage. This way the majority

of furniture is dual functioning. >>

A glass coffeetable serves a dual function if you have artists or
calligraphers who could use a light table. Just set a desk lamp under it. Those with
heavy wooden frames and two separate panes of heavy glass (no glass edges to
hurt kids) are in the thrift stores these days.

Sandra

nellebelle

We have made a (very) little bit of progress. I decided to tackle my office this weekend. I moved a bunch of stuff out, then put things back where I wanted them, threw some stuff away, and have stuff to give away.

I would like to have the office be "my" room, but the girls want to have their desks in here too. The room also has the hamsters, a piano and "my" computer. (Gosh, I sound so greedy!) Since there was so much room in here today, they both spent a bunch of time in here, but already it is messy again. They did pick up some of it when I asked. I did not say it, but I so felt like saying "if you're going to have your stuff in my office then it has to always be kept clean!"

Besides the girl's rooms, all the other rooms have furniture that my husband really loves and isn't willing to part with. It's not that I don't like it, it's just that I didn't pick it and due to sizes of furniture and shape of the house, I don't feel like I have too many options on how those rooms are furnished and arranged. I did say something to Lisa about my wanting to feel like one room in the house is mine and she replied that I had my bedroom. But it is one of the rooms that was arranged by dh for the most part. It doesn't feel like 'my' room.

I had a conversation with dh about lightening up on the condition of the girl's rooms. He doesn't go overboard with needing them super tidy, but hasn't bought into the idea of unchoring. He thinks we need to 'teach' them how to have their rooms a certain way. He doesn't make time to help them though. He thinks that is my job.

Lisa and I have began to work on her room. I gave her a box to store things that she doesn't use anymore but doesn't want to give away either. She does want me to help and is usually willing to try different things.

Jackie says she wants me to help, but poo poos just about every thing I suggest. I had a couple extra storage cubes that I moved into her room, thinking that would be great for her stuffed animals. She immediately saw how it could be a toy McDonalds! I gotta love her imagination, but it ended up making her room more crowded rather than solving a storage problem. Sigh....

Mary Ellen

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