[UnschoolingDiscussion] kids and voting
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I'm not a big follower of the California Recall going on right now, but I was
reading a teaser on AOL's welcome page and clicked to read the whole article.
This one small paragraph stood out and as it represents part of a strong
opinion I have I thought I would pass it on. FWIW
In Thousand Oaks, McClintock voted and urged citizens to "simply vote your
conscience... If everybody who believes I am the best qualified votes for me, we
will have an upset tonight." Things had begun quietly at that polling place,
but soon people began arriving in large numbers, some with children in tow.
That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of those who
still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids everywhere, even
when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I think it
is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the
voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your kids
with?
~Nancy
People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have.
Anne Tyler
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reading a teaser on AOL's welcome page and clicked to read the whole article.
This one small paragraph stood out and as it represents part of a strong
opinion I have I thought I would pass it on. FWIW
In Thousand Oaks, McClintock voted and urged citizens to "simply vote your
conscience... If everybody who believes I am the best qualified votes for me, we
will have an upset tonight." Things had begun quietly at that polling place,
but soon people began arriving in large numbers, some with children in tow.
That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of those who
still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids everywhere, even
when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I think it
is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the
voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your kids
with?
~Nancy
People always call it luck when you've acted more sensibly than they have.
Anne Tyler
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Tia Leschke
>I always did.
>That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of those who
>still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids
>everywhere, even
>when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
>like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
>children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I
>think it
>is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the
>voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take
>your kids
>with?
Tia
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In a message dated 10/7/03 3:26:30 PM, Dnowens@... writes:
<< I take my kids everywhere, even
when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. >>
We used to take our kids, and we've even taken them into the booth.
Maybe they don't let people do it anymore, or maybe they weren't supposed to
let them, or maybe it's up to the locals or it's state law or something, but
Keith and I used to take Kirby and Marty in, one with each of us, and I
remember once I let Kirby push the "vote" thing after I'd made my choices.
"...in tow" sounds so against their will, huh?
Sandra
<< I take my kids everywhere, even
when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. >>
We used to take our kids, and we've even taken them into the booth.
Maybe they don't let people do it anymore, or maybe they weren't supposed to
let them, or maybe it's up to the locals or it's state law or something, but
Keith and I used to take Kirby and Marty in, one with each of us, and I
remember once I let Kirby push the "vote" thing after I'd made my choices.
"...in tow" sounds so against their will, huh?
Sandra
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In a message dated 10-7-2003 3:26:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
Dnowens@... writes:
I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the voting area is
frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your kids with?
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I always take my kids with me & discuss the same things! We had some great
initiatives on our ballot last November. I talked openly about them and shared
what I overheard other voters talking about. (i.e. we had a Hemp Initiative
that was defeated, I believe because THC was printed on the ballot ~ though
the whole sentence said "less than --% THC" people only saw THC and voted NO)
I've been fighting with the Social Security Administration for the past 6
weeks, the kids have been with me and know what's going on. To get the wheels
turning faster, we stopped by Tom Daschle's office yesterday & met with his
assistant. It's amazing how quickly things get resolved at his command! I know
we're fortunate to live in a small state where we have lots of opportunities to
personally meet our representatives, it gives all of us (including my small
children) a sense of real live people instead of *politicians on pedistals*
representing & helping us. There is an amazing array of political/governmental
information available in the office, as well. Today I picked up "How Our Laws
Are Made," I think it will be a handy reference guide for when that inevitable
conversation comes up <g>
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"You can follow your book and your map of wars, but I'll go and follow my
kids." -- Woody Guthrie
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Dnowens@... writes:
I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the voting area is
frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your kids with?
^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*
I always take my kids with me & discuss the same things! We had some great
initiatives on our ballot last November. I talked openly about them and shared
what I overheard other voters talking about. (i.e. we had a Hemp Initiative
that was defeated, I believe because THC was printed on the ballot ~ though
the whole sentence said "less than --% THC" people only saw THC and voted NO)
I've been fighting with the Social Security Administration for the past 6
weeks, the kids have been with me and know what's going on. To get the wheels
turning faster, we stopped by Tom Daschle's office yesterday & met with his
assistant. It's amazing how quickly things get resolved at his command! I know
we're fortunate to live in a small state where we have lots of opportunities to
personally meet our representatives, it gives all of us (including my small
children) a sense of real live people instead of *politicians on pedistals*
representing & helping us. There is an amazing array of political/governmental
information available in the office, as well. Today I picked up "How Our Laws
Are Made," I think it will be a handy reference guide for when that inevitable
conversation comes up <g>
diana,
The wackiest widow westriver...
"You can follow your book and your map of wars, but I'll go and follow my
kids." -- Woody Guthrie
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Kimberly Fry
I'm in Oklahoma and my son goes with me sometimes, sometimes not. I see other children/teens there as well. It's never been a problem. I've never seen it questioned.
Our system may be different. We vote at tall round tables with a divider on top, four voters per table, and use a magic marker connect the line of our choice (candidate --or--yes/no). Then the ballots are slipped into a machine that verifies the ballot as valid and (same machine) later gives precinct totals. It's not like we're in a small booth where you draw the curtain or close a door.
Kim
Dnowens@... wrote:
That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of those who
still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids everywhere, even
when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I think it
is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the
voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your kids
with?
~Nancy
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Our system may be different. We vote at tall round tables with a divider on top, four voters per table, and use a magic marker connect the line of our choice (candidate --or--yes/no). Then the ballots are slipped into a machine that verifies the ballot as valid and (same machine) later gives precinct totals. It's not like we're in a small booth where you draw the curtain or close a door.
Kim
Dnowens@... wrote:
That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of those who
still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids everywhere, even
when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I think it
is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the
voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your kids
with?
~Nancy
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coyote's corner
Hi,
Brianna always comes to vote w/ me.
Janis
Brianna always comes to vote w/ me.
Janis
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From: Kimberly Fry
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] kids and voting
I'm in Oklahoma and my son goes with me sometimes, sometimes not. I see other children/teens there as well. It's never been a problem. I've never seen it questioned.
Our system may be different. We vote at tall round tables with a divider on top, four voters per table, and use a magic marker connect the line of our choice (candidate --or--yes/no). Then the ballots are slipped into a machine that verifies the ballot as valid and (same machine) later gives precinct totals. It's not like we're in a small booth where you draw the curtain or close a door.
Kim
Dnowens@... wrote:
That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of those who
still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids everywhere, even
when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I think it
is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the
voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your kids
with?
~Nancy
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Amy and Cory Nelson
We've always taken our children along when we vote, but they are 4 and 1, so
that probably gets a different response than if you were bringing along
older kids. I've rarely seen children along when their parents vote unless
they're infants or toddlers, but I wish more parents would include their
kids. Doesn't mean they have to be in the voting booth necessarily (which is
probably what the voting officials frown upon the most). Growing up, I
remember my parents saying they were going to vote, but I had no idea what
that involved.
Amy
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99) and Cole (9/03/02)
"Allow children to be happy in their own way, for what better
way will they find?"
--Dr, Samuel Johnson
http://thissideofsomewhere.blogspot.com/
that probably gets a different response than if you were bringing along
older kids. I've rarely seen children along when their parents vote unless
they're infants or toddlers, but I wish more parents would include their
kids. Doesn't mean they have to be in the voting booth necessarily (which is
probably what the voting officials frown upon the most). Growing up, I
remember my parents saying they were going to vote, but I had no idea what
that involved.
Amy
Mama to Accalia (6/14/99) and Cole (9/03/02)
"Allow children to be happy in their own way, for what better
way will they find?"
--Dr, Samuel Johnson
http://thissideofsomewhere.blogspot.com/
> That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of those who
> still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids everywhere,
> even
> when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my choices and
> like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told that
> children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I think
> it
> is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children in the
> voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take your
> kids
> with?
>
> ~Nancy
joylyn
Just left voting, had both girls with me and Lexie told me how to vote
(which was how I would have voted anyway...) I ALWAYS take my girls.
Lexie is very political and very opinionated and is going to be the
first Black Woman President "I may not be the first woman president and
I may not be the first Black president but I will be the first Woman
Black President."
Joylyn
Tia Leschke wrote:
(which was how I would have voted anyway...) I ALWAYS take my girls.
Lexie is very political and very opinionated and is going to be the
first Black Woman President "I may not be the first woman president and
I may not be the first Black president but I will be the first Woman
Black President."
Joylyn
Tia Leschke wrote:
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> >
> >That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of
> those who
> >still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids
> >everywhere, even
> >when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my
> choices and
> >like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told
> that
> >children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I
> >think it
> >is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children
> in the
> >voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take
> >your kids
> >with?
>
>
> I always did.
> Tia
>
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In a message dated 10/7/03 05:10:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
"...in tow" sounds so against their will, huh?
Sandra
################
Yeah, that too. I saw it as someone saying "glad they showed up to vote, but
geez did they have to bring the kids too?" kinda sarcastic like. Which
reminded me of the issue I addressed kids in the voting area/booth. Another issue I
have heard about lately is lowering the voting age to 16, which I think would
be cool, but I am sure there are those who would oppose that. I mean what 16
year old knows what they want, right?
~Nancy
Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Elbert Hubbard
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SandraDodd@... writes:
"...in tow" sounds so against their will, huh?
Sandra
################
Yeah, that too. I saw it as someone saying "glad they showed up to vote, but
geez did they have to bring the kids too?" kinda sarcastic like. Which
reminded me of the issue I addressed kids in the voting area/booth. Another issue I
have heard about lately is lowering the voting age to 16, which I think would
be cool, but I am sure there are those who would oppose that. I mean what 16
year old knows what they want, right?
~Nancy
Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Elbert Hubbard
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In a message dated 10/7/03 07:50:28 PM Central Daylight Time,
joylyn@... writes:
Just left voting, had both girls with me and Lexie told me how to vote
(which was how I would have voted anyway...) I ALWAYS take my girls.
Lexie is very political and very opinionated and is going to be the
first Black Woman President "I may not be the first woman president and
I may not be the first Black president but I will be the first Woman
Black President."
Joylyn
###################
First Black Woman Unschooled Free President!
~Nancy
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joylyn@... writes:
Just left voting, had both girls with me and Lexie told me how to vote
(which was how I would have voted anyway...) I ALWAYS take my girls.
Lexie is very political and very opinionated and is going to be the
first Black Woman President "I may not be the first woman president and
I may not be the first Black president but I will be the first Woman
Black President."
Joylyn
###################
First Black Woman Unschooled Free President!
~Nancy
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In a message dated 10/7/03 10:22:24 PM, Dnowens@... writes:
<< Another issue I
have heard about lately is lowering the voting age to 16, which I think would
be cool, but I am sure there are those who would oppose that. I mean what 16
year old knows what they want, right? >>
I got to vote when they changed it to 18. I was 18!!!
Sandra, who is old.
<< Another issue I
have heard about lately is lowering the voting age to 16, which I think would
be cool, but I am sure there are those who would oppose that. I mean what 16
year old knows what they want, right? >>
I got to vote when they changed it to 18. I was 18!!!
Sandra, who is old.
joylyn
Dnowens@... wrote:
American Unschooled Free Woman President. :-)
Joylyn
> In a message dated 10/7/03 07:50:28 PM Central Daylight Time,:-) Well, in reality she would be the first Black White Scottish Native
> joylyn@... writes:
> Just left voting, had both girls with me and Lexie told me how to vote
> (which was how I would have voted anyway...) I ALWAYS take my girls.
> Lexie is very political and very opinionated and is going to be the
> first Black Woman President "I may not be the first woman president and
> I may not be the first Black president but I will be the first Woman
> Black President."
>
> Joylyn
> ###################
>
> First Black Woman Unschooled Free President!
American Unschooled Free Woman President. :-)
Joylyn
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> ~Nancy
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*** Another issue I
have heard about lately is lowering the voting age to 16, which I think
would
be cool, but I am sure there are those who would oppose that. I mean what
16
year old knows what they want, right?***
Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions has a position paper
on kids voting.
http://www.asfar.org/papers/voting.php
Dylan comes along when I vote. They give him a ballot to fill out. He's
very interested in politics and is a member of the Green Party. He has
collected signatures for ballot initiatives, and written letters to our
newspaper about voting issues. He often knows more about the candidates
and issues than many of the voters we hear talking at the poling place.
Deb L
have heard about lately is lowering the voting age to 16, which I think
would
be cool, but I am sure there are those who would oppose that. I mean what
16
year old knows what they want, right?***
Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions has a position paper
on kids voting.
http://www.asfar.org/papers/voting.php
Dylan comes along when I vote. They give him a ballot to fill out. He's
very interested in politics and is a member of the Green Party. He has
collected signatures for ballot initiatives, and written letters to our
newspaper about voting issues. He often knows more about the candidates
and issues than many of the voters we hear talking at the poling place.
Deb L
joylyn
I think 16 would be good. But tonight I wish it would have been 8.
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
Joylyn
SandraDodd@... wrote:
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> In a message dated 10/7/03 10:22:24 PM, Dnowens@... writes:
>
> << Another issue I
> have heard about lately is lowering the voting age to 16, which I
> think would
> be cool, but I am sure there are those who would oppose that. I mean
> what 16
> year old knows what they want, right? >>
>
> I got to vote when they changed it to 18. I was 18!!!
>
> Sandra, who is old.
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We've always taken our kids with no problem but didn't today because we
wanted to go midday and the polling place is a school and my older son felt
uncomfortable going during school hours. Sigh. We went in shifts.
Ugh...I can't believe Arnold is going to be my governor.
Pam T.
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wanted to go midday and the polling place is a school and my older son felt
uncomfortable going during school hours. Sigh. We went in shifts.
Ugh...I can't believe Arnold is going to be my governor.
Pam T.
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The Scanlons
"Yeah, that too. I saw it as someone saying "glad they showed up to vote,
but
was so important to vote that they didn't use the excuse of being too busy
with the kids to go and vote." Or "they picked up their kids from
daycare/school and then went to vote."
Let's face it...kids are not often found at election centers. I wouldn't
know for sure because I don't vote at election centers. Perhaps some
parents who read that article (heard the news clip?) might get to thinking
that it just might be ok to bring kids to the polls.
Sandy
but
> geez did they have to bring the kids too?" kinda sarcastic like."I dunno...I thought it was more along the lines of, "some people thought it
was so important to vote that they didn't use the excuse of being too busy
with the kids to go and vote." Or "they picked up their kids from
daycare/school and then went to vote."
Let's face it...kids are not often found at election centers. I wouldn't
know for sure because I don't vote at election centers. Perhaps some
parents who read that article (heard the news clip?) might get to thinking
that it just might be ok to bring kids to the polls.
Sandy
coyote's corner
Good for her!! Brianna & I have been watching all of this - we're rather political. I can't believe how much adulation is given to actors/celebrities!
Janis
Janis
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From: joylyn
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] kids and voting
Just left voting, had both girls with me and Lexie told me how to vote
(which was how I would have voted anyway...) I ALWAYS take my girls.
Lexie is very political and very opinionated and is going to be the
first Black Woman President "I may not be the first woman president and
I may not be the first Black president but I will be the first Woman
Black President."
Joylyn
Tia Leschke wrote:
>
> >
> >That last line; *some with children in tow.* got me. I am one of
> those who
> >still want to believe that every vote counts and I take my kids
> >everywhere, even
> >when I vote. I want them to see what I do, I like to explain my
> choices and
> >like it when they ask about the process. Every time though, I am told
> that
> >children are not allowed in the voting areas, but I take them anyway. I
> >think it
> >is important. I wonder by that statement in the article if children
> in the
> >voting area is frowned upon in other areas as well? Do any of you take
> >your kids
> >with?
>
>
> I always did.
> Tia
>
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From: joylyn
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] kids and voting
**I think 16 would be good. But tonight I wish it would have been 8.**
We have similar things going on in these unschooling houses don't we. <g>
My 9 yr old dd couldn't understand why she didn't get to vote in the next presidential election. I had a hard time explaining why the age is at 18. :(
We had an interesting conversation about politics and entertainment, stemming from Schwartzenegger's campaign. She couldn't believe that a movie star would be running for governor. And then I clued her in on Reagan and our former Minnesota governor Ventura, yes a professional wrestler/actor can also become governor, <sheesh>.
We have also always brought our kids with to voting. People working the polling places are usually grandmas and grandpas here too. Usually, love the kids and give them the sticker. My kids have been totally fascinated with the polling places.
Kelli~ who is sure that we will all be able to spell Schwartzenegger after the next few days.
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Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] kids and voting
**I think 16 would be good. But tonight I wish it would have been 8.**
We have similar things going on in these unschooling houses don't we. <g>
My 9 yr old dd couldn't understand why she didn't get to vote in the next presidential election. I had a hard time explaining why the age is at 18. :(
We had an interesting conversation about politics and entertainment, stemming from Schwartzenegger's campaign. She couldn't believe that a movie star would be running for governor. And then I clued her in on Reagan and our former Minnesota governor Ventura, yes a professional wrestler/actor can also become governor, <sheesh>.
We have also always brought our kids with to voting. People working the polling places are usually grandmas and grandpas here too. Usually, love the kids and give them the sticker. My kids have been totally fascinated with the polling places.
Kelli~ who is sure that we will all be able to spell Schwartzenegger after the next few days.
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Tia Leschke
>Ugh...I can't believe Arnold is going to be my governor.I was horrified when I learned the results. I guess I'm originally from
the part of California that will *never* understand the rest of
California. <g>
Tia
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In a message dated 10/8/03 10:47:29 AM Central Daylight Time, leschke@...
writes:
I was horrified when I learned the results. I guess I'm originally from
the part of California that will *never* understand the rest of
California. <g>
Tia
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When Darin and I lived in California we always said there should have been
two states. Northern CA and the rest of them.
~Nancy
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writes:
I was horrified when I learned the results. I guess I'm originally from
the part of California that will *never* understand the rest of
California. <g>
Tia
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
When Darin and I lived in California we always said there should have been
two states. Northern CA and the rest of them.
~Nancy
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pam sorooshian
On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 03:07 AM, The Scanlons wrote:
much, but is old enough and small enough that we mostly know each
other. The voting location has been in the same person's garage for
about 30 years. They have people donate goodies and they have coffee
and punch and people hang out - kids run around all over the place -
all outside. Its time for catching up on neighbors - finding out who
is doing what, etc.
-pam
> Let's face it...kids are not often found at election centers.My neighborhood is suburban enough that people don't see each other
much, but is old enough and small enough that we mostly know each
other. The voting location has been in the same person's garage for
about 30 years. They have people donate goodies and they have coffee
and punch and people hang out - kids run around all over the place -
all outside. Its time for catching up on neighbors - finding out who
is doing what, etc.
-pam
plumaria_1
I take my kids with me to vote. Nobody has told me that I can't bring
them in. ONe year, a voting officient even offered a stool to my ds
so he could see what I was doing! I live in a small-ish town, where
the same officients volunteer year after year and tend to know who you
are when you walk through the door. So maybe that personal familiarity
has something to do with why I haven't had trouble. Also, the
officients where I go are always lamenting over how so many people on
the rolls don't come in to vote, so they don't complain when a voter
comes in with kids.
I loved election day when I was a kid. (in the 1970's) My parents
took us with them into the voting booth. Voting was an important part
of the adult world, so I felt really important being in there with
them, and very curious, too. (I really remember feeling this way.) I
think I went with them till I was about 10 or so.
I find it very sad that kids are being kept out of voting places. I
think this restriction does us a disserviice, as generating interest
in voting when kids are curious about it will increase the number of
voting adults later.
I suppose the common argument for not allowing kids in with their
parents is that they are disruptive. But I tell ya,
when I go to vote, the man who comes in and jaws with the officient
while waiting his turn (booming, "Howdy , Fred! I
missed ya at the last something-or-other at the VFW") is much louder
and disruptive than my kids are! Even adults forget to be quiet
sometimes.
them in. ONe year, a voting officient even offered a stool to my ds
so he could see what I was doing! I live in a small-ish town, where
the same officients volunteer year after year and tend to know who you
are when you walk through the door. So maybe that personal familiarity
has something to do with why I haven't had trouble. Also, the
officients where I go are always lamenting over how so many people on
the rolls don't come in to vote, so they don't complain when a voter
comes in with kids.
I loved election day when I was a kid. (in the 1970's) My parents
took us with them into the voting booth. Voting was an important part
of the adult world, so I felt really important being in there with
them, and very curious, too. (I really remember feeling this way.) I
think I went with them till I was about 10 or so.
I find it very sad that kids are being kept out of voting places. I
think this restriction does us a disserviice, as generating interest
in voting when kids are curious about it will increase the number of
voting adults later.
I suppose the common argument for not allowing kids in with their
parents is that they are disruptive. But I tell ya,
when I go to vote, the man who comes in and jaws with the officient
while waiting his turn (booming, "Howdy , Fred! I
missed ya at the last something-or-other at the VFW") is much louder
and disruptive than my kids are! Even adults forget to be quiet
sometimes.
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> Let's face it...kids are not often found at election centers.My 12 & 4 yr. old have been going for years. I also take my son to town
meetings when there is an interest, he likes to see the process.
Laura
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Tia Leschke
>I was saying the same thing in the 60's. I always figured the North could
>
>When Darin and I lived in California we always said there should have been
>two states. Northern CA and the rest of them.
go as far south as Big Sur. <g>
Tia
coyote's corner
I have a big problem w/ this....last evening, the discussion was about the possibility of changing the law that says that one has to be born in the USA in order to be president.
The folks in Indian are scared - he's made it very plain how he feels about American Indians.
I fear for all of California...and you know that RFK & JFK are rolling in their graves!
This man was, IMO, elected on the celebrity ticket.
How very sad.
Janis & Brianna
The folks in Indian are scared - he's made it very plain how he feels about American Indians.
I fear for all of California...and you know that RFK & JFK are rolling in their graves!
This man was, IMO, elected on the celebrity ticket.
How very sad.
Janis & Brianna
----- Original Message -----
From: Tia Leschke
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] kids and voting
>Ugh...I can't believe Arnold is going to be my governor.
I was horrified when I learned the results. I guess I'm originally from
the part of California that will *never* understand the rest of
California. <g>
Tia
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In a message dated 10/8/03 02:59:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
jana@... writes:
I have a big problem w/ this....last evening, the discussion was about the
possibility of changing the law that says that one has to be born in the USA in
order to be president.
The folks in Indian are scared - he's made it very plain how he feels about
American Indians.
I fear for all of California...and you know that RFK & JFK are rolling in
their graves!
This man was, IMO, elected on the celebrity ticket.
How very sad.
Janis & Brianna
#####################
I thought you did have to be born in the US to be elected president. Or is it
that you have to be a natural born citizen, not immigrated here?
~Nancy
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jana@... writes:
I have a big problem w/ this....last evening, the discussion was about the
possibility of changing the law that says that one has to be born in the USA in
order to be president.
The folks in Indian are scared - he's made it very plain how he feels about
American Indians.
I fear for all of California...and you know that RFK & JFK are rolling in
their graves!
This man was, IMO, elected on the celebrity ticket.
How very sad.
Janis & Brianna
#####################
I thought you did have to be born in the US to be elected president. Or is it
that you have to be a natural born citizen, not immigrated here?
~Nancy
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In a message dated 10/8/03 7:30:16 AM, tktraas@... writes:
<< She couldn't believe that a movie star would be running for governor. And
then I clued her in on Reagan and our former Minnesota governor Ventura, yes
a professional wrestler/actor can also become governor, <sheesh>.
It's only lately that we think professional politicians are supposed to run
the place instead of citizens elected by other citizens.
Sandra
<< She couldn't believe that a movie star would be running for governor. And
then I clued her in on Reagan and our former Minnesota governor Ventura, yes
a professional wrestler/actor can also become governor, <sheesh>.
>>But that's the way it SHOULD have been.
It's only lately that we think professional politicians are supposed to run
the place instead of citizens elected by other citizens.
Sandra
coyote's corner
Right now - the law is that you have to be born here...in the US.
The talk last evening was of changing this so that emigrants could run.
Janis
The talk last evening was of changing this so that emigrants could run.
Janis
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From: Dnowens@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] kids and voting
In a message dated 10/8/03 02:59:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
jana@... writes:
I have a big problem w/ this....last evening, the discussion was about the
possibility of changing the law that says that one has to be born in the USA in
order to be president.
The folks in Indian are scared - he's made it very plain how he feels about
American Indians.
I fear for all of California...and you know that RFK & JFK are rolling in
their graves!
This man was, IMO, elected on the celebrity ticket.
How very sad.
Janis & Brianna
#####################
I thought you did have to be born in the US to be elected president. Or is it
that you have to be a natural born citizen, not immigrated here?
~Nancy
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Tia Leschke
>That's true. But the celebrities running makes it an uneven playing
>
>But that's the way it SHOULD have been.
>
>It's only lately that we think professional politicians are supposed to run
>the place instead of citizens elected by other citizens.
field. They have a much better chance of being elected, simply because so
many people recognize their name. People will vote for them even when they
know nothing about their policies, etc.
Tia
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In a message dated 10/8/03 2:11:54 PM, Dnowens@... writes:
<< I thought you did have to be born in the US to be elected president. Or is
it
that you have to be a natural born citizen, not immigrated here? >>
Born here.
Early presidents were born in the colonies.
Sandra
<< I thought you did have to be born in the US to be elected president. Or is
it
that you have to be a natural born citizen, not immigrated here? >>
Born here.
Early presidents were born in the colonies.
Sandra