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In a message dated 6/1/99 10:20:23 PM !!!First Boot!!!, tn-k4of5@...
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<<
>To get to your questions: You are correct about the homeschooling laws in
>Idaho. Basically there are none. :o) No testing, no registering, no one
>checking up on you. Just live your life and have fun.>
>Marti
>


Thanks Marti,

I hope that is true, I would hate to get in "trouble" for truency or
something. >>


I called the local school board and then the State Dept. of Ed to get info
here in FLA -- maybe you could do the same to confirm -- it sounds neat in
Idaho!

Nance

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geesh! I am packing up as I type!! lucky you, have a great day

Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall

>>about the homeschooling laws in Idaho. Basically there are none. :o) No
testing, >>no registering, no one checking up on you. Just live your life
and have fun.>


it sounds neat in Idaho!
Nance

Nance,
Unfortunately, I do think our laws are "blue book" laws and not forward
thinking on the part of Idaho. They just never got around to addressing
homeschooling in depth. After all, we have an estimated 20,000 polygamists
(Mormons) in this state still! But I have met some very sophisticated
families who are very open to alternatives to "traditional" ideas, but most
of them are transplants from other places.

Where I happen to live the main employer (and the second largest in the
state) is the Government Nuclear Reservation where my husband works in
engineering disposal and cleanup processes. There are a lot of educated
folks from different parts of the country/world who have come here to work.
But we also have about a 70 or 80% Mormon community here, and it is an
interesting experience to live in such a fundamentally religious community.
I grew up in San Francisco, which was very different, to say the least.
My main worry is being unable to find social outlets for my kids that are
open to unschooling and not religiously oriented.

On a positive note however, we love to camp, learn about and view nature
and wildlife and there is lots of wilderness area here, including the very
first National Park, Yellowstone.

Nanci K.

Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall

>thanks, that's good to know because tx is too hot for me and idaho has always
>seemed like a place i would like (i've lived in over a dozen states but not
>idaho, yet:)
>-susan

Texas is too hot for me too, phew! Makes me hot just thinking about it! I
have a brother in Dallas. I grew up in San Francisco, so I am really
spoiled as far as weather goes. Over there, you usually have about 30-40
degrees in variation of temperature in the city all year, and there are no
appreciable seasons really. Just fog, rain, or sunshine and temperatures
vaying bewteen 40 some to 70 some. Anything above or below that is
extremely unusual.

When I moved away as an adult I had to get a whole new wardrobe. I had noo
summer clothes, and no winter clothes. My warmest Jacket was a leather
bomber jacket, which did not stand up very well to more extreme winters,
and the first place I lived after SF was Albequerque NM so I did not have
clothes suitable for that hot weather either. I have discovered that I do
much better in cooler or colder weather than in hot.

We are relatively new here, having moved permanently in March. However, we
did go through the winter here in 98, as DH was working in town on a temp.
basis at that time. Our summers here (in SE Idaho) have about 2 weeks of
moderately hot weather (not breaking 100, usually not breaking 90)
surrounded by pleasant weather. The winters are cold, but we still don't
have any snow yet this year, and there is usually not more than a foot or
so on the ground here at any one time. The falls are long and leisurely
with lots of color and the springs are long and punctuated by entertaining
storm cells that whip through on their way to flatter country in Tornado
Alley.

We are enjoying the "small town" feel here, with a pop. of about 30-40,000,
which is quite a large drop for me. We are still finding our social niche,
but are beginning to make friends. We love the geography, being on a high
plateau surrounded by mountains and with the Snake river running throught
the center of town. We are about 1.5 hrs south-west of Yellowstone and
closer to Grand Teton Natl Park, so have been to both several times since
we moved here. We actually have quite a few nice ammenities in town, that
we are still discovering. Biggest surprise: Our little town has a zoo,
complete with penquins, lions and tigers, primates, snow leapards, etc, etc
(but no elephants :-( ...yet)

Nanci K. in Idaho

Nanci Kuykendall

>Nanci,
>Are you in Idaho now? I am in Sun Valley. Just
>curious.
>NICKI~

Yes we are in SE Idaho, Idaho Falls to be exact. I
like your name Nicki, my oldest sister is named Nicki.

Nanci K.




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From: Nanci Kuykendall <aisliin@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:12 PM
Subject: [Unschooling-dotcom] Idaho

>Nanci,
>Are you in Idaho now? I am in Sun Valley. Just
>curious.
>NICKI~

Yes we are in SE Idaho, Idaho Falls to be exact.  I
like your name Nicki, my oldest sister is named Nicki.

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I need some info for a friend. His son is 7 and in PS. They have
diag. him w/ all sorts of disorders and placed him in special ed. He
refuses to write for them yet reads at a 6th grade level. He isn't
violent or aggressive he just refuses to cooperate at times. So it
has gotten out of hand at the school. Here is a young child who is
intelligent and questioning. So he doesn't fit the mold. Also he is
very artistic as is the whole family line. The father is divorced and
the mother is on/off about removing him from school. The father has
offered to pay full time tutors but the school refuses. Now the
school is pressuring him to leave him in school. The father went to
see his lawyer and the lawyer quit b/c conflict of interest;his firm
reps the school dist.. UGH! All he wanted was to know his legal
rights.

I was crying last night when dh was telling me about his friend's
son. The father is very worried his son is just going to become more
discouraged and develop more avoidance techniques. I agree he will
never flourish in this situation.When he described the boy's
behaviors and tendancies it was exactly like our daughter. You can
not sit her down to a task,she looses interest unless it was her
idea,she is in motion alot. So on and So on. This is why we know
unschooling is the way and I am speaking w/ him this weekend about
it. Dh and I were thinking he could hire a nanny and go w/ the flow
(unschool).

Now legally he needs advice about pulling him from school. Also
being divorced causes an added dimension. He has to get his ex on
board. This is in Idaho. From what I know we have no regulations
reguarding homeschooling,so why would there be a problem pulling him
from school. Except that the school has labled this child special ed.

TIA NICKI~

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In a message dated 10/19/01 11:09:55 AM, RValvo7626@... writes:

<< so why would there be a problem pulling him
from school. Except that the school has labled this child special ed. >>

Financial incentive for the school-- more income for special ed than other
kids.

Worst case scenario might be school accusing the family of educational
neglect, but if he can afford tutors, they might possibly still want to go
with a tutor at first (with homeschooling) to appease any lurking observers,
or he might want to sign him up with Clonlara or another distance school so
that he is legally "enrolled in school" and the school can shove off.

Sandra

Elizabeth Hill

RValvo7626@... wrote:

> I need some info for a friend. His son is 7 and in PS. They have
> diag. him w/ all sorts of disorders and placed him in special ed. He
> refuses to write for them yet reads at a 6th grade level. He isn't
> violent or aggressive he just refuses to cooperate at times. So it
> has gotten out of hand at the school. Here is a young child who is
> intelligent and questioning. So he doesn't fit the mold.

Hi, Nicki --

My son is 7, reads fluently (4th grade level or above) and won't write a
lick. (He doesn't find it easy even to write his name.) Unschooling is
working great for us. We've done it from the get go.

My son is definitely not the "do it because I say so" type. Sometimes I
joke that the school system should pay me to keep him at home, because I
know he would be pretty subversive in the classroom. Unfortunately, that's
not the way the funding flows.

Let me know if there is any kind of moral support I can give. Your friend's
story really speaks to me.

If you aren't already completely familiar with the Idaho laws, you can find
them at
http://www.nhen.org (somewhere).

I don't know a lot about homeschooling as a single parent, but there may be
a folder for that at the unschooling.com website. A kid who reads a lot can
learn a lot even with a minimally talented babysitter just available to
watch him during the day. Lots of the interactive learning can take place
with the dad in the evening.

Best wishes,
Betsy

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In a message dated 10/22/2001 10:33:01 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
ecsamhill@... writes:


> Hi, Nicki --
>
> My son is 7, reads fluently (4th grade level or above) and won't write a
> lick. (He doesn't find it easy even to write his name.) Unschooling is
> working great for us. We've done it from the get go.
>
> My son is definitely not the "do it because I say so" type. Sometimes I
> joke that the school system should pay me to keep him at home, because I
> know he would be pretty subversive in the classroom. Unfortunately, that's
> not the way the funding flows.
>


She has cloned my son!!

But he turned 8. Barely writes -- but dictated a beautiful essay for Tae
Kwon Do recently. And has even taken an interest in doing some
drawing/doodling lately.

Will wonders never cease!

Nance





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